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tonight's lead, trouble brewing. in just the first weeks of the coming new year, a fractured house republican caucus will have to vote on a speaker with several massive tests around government looming on the horizon. the treasury secretary is warning this weekend, we may be flirting with a default in just a few weeks. as another spending plan to fund the government, is on these conflicts. on capitol hill. but rather than offer a message of maturity and reassurance over the holiday weekend, the president-elect threatened to buy other countries that of

course aren't for sale. while he repairs a sleeping purge of undocumented immigrants here in the u.s. and a lot of his base is angry with his allies elon musk and vivek ramaswamy. over their recent comments that the u.s. should remain open to certain immigrants because maga america isn't producing enough brains for the tech industry. still for all of that, on the other side of the aisle is whether democrats days away from being out of power in washington can unite around a message and a plan to push back. joining me now, congresswoman joyce beatty. democrat of ohio. and currently running for vice chair of the democratic national committee. congresswoman, thank you for joining us this holiday weekend. congress votes to decide the new speaker of the house next

week. that vote could be decided by the slimmest gop majority in modern history. congressman mike johnson appears to be in an increasingly untenable position in passing the government funding bill. angering some of his caucus who are calling for a new speaker while trump has been silent on the matter. how do you expect your republican colleagues to proceed, congresswoman? >> well first of all, thank you for having me on reverend al. they are in a tizzy because they know they can't control. as everybody witnessed right before we left congress, 40, almost 40 some of the republicans voted against what the republicans want. because they wanted to of course raise the debt ceiling. they are not in alignment with their speaker.

we know before that by the time through four days, 15 rounds of votes, democrats were consistent with hakeem jeffries and they were all over the place. right now they have that one party vote rule they can vacate the speaker seat. they are having trouble governing. they are probably waiting on president-elect musk to call trump and tell them what to do. right now, they don't know who is running the government. whether is it on our debt ceiling or the unfinished business that we have to do in the upcoming march months. they cannot govern. and democrats are on point. we have 215 democrats aligned with leader hakeem jeffries ready to do the people's work.

they're in trouble. >> janet yell enis warning the u.s. could reach its debt ceiling as soon as january 14th. and calling on the default. about three dozen conservative republicans joined house democrats in rejecting trump's demand that the debt ceiling be abolished during this month's spending fight. what are you expecting from your gop colleagues on this issue when congress returns and how should democrats respond? >> reverend al, i don't think they are going to move very far. we know we are sitting at about $36 trillion. the debt ceiling has been set at $31.4 trillion. we know 90 times over the 20th century, we have been faced

with this issue. it has been suspended until as you mention january the 2nd. i think that we will do what we can do best to protect the american citizens. you know, they are thinking about billionaires. he is even suggesting a name of a south carolina billionaire to take janet yellen's place. we will stand firm and do what's best for the debt ceiling but most importantly, what's best for consumers in our constituents. >> now, earlier this month, your caucus elected virginia congressman gerry connelly will be house head of the house oversight committee. many wanted alexandria ocasio- cortez who also competed for the job, connelly is 74. ocasio-cortez is 35.

and a rising progressive star. the party is still debating on whether it needs to get younger more centrist or more liberal or if it should work with the next administration or fight it. as you vie for the dnc vice chair and we know the dnc has to deal with where it goes from here. i was in chicago for christmas evening the night of christmas. with reverend jesse jackson and a lot of people in chicago telling me they want to see his son congressman jonathan jackson run for chair. where do you see the future going and the direction going of the party as you run for vice chair? >> i think you need a combination. whether it is the dnc and yes i'm running for dnc vice chair of civic engagement and voter participation. because i think while we have great candidates, i have an unmatched record. chairing the congressional black caucus elected bus, being

in the state house. as the first democratic female to deliver the majority. marching with you and other civil rights leaders, putting together civic participation and engagement. in all areas, especially voting rights but when you look at what we just did, whether it was aoc or jerry connelly, we picked the best. aoc did a great job. i think if she moves forward, we have a great plan. we have elected a lot of younger people over some of our senior. but you can't have everyone to be young or everyone to be senior. it is the combination. it is the experience that we have to remember. it is also making sure that you do the other things. do you support other members? do you pay your dues? so when i looked at it overall, i made sure that we voted for a person that met all of those

things. not just one. so i think that the dnc will be on a great foot. we have a lot to build on from what jamie did as the dnc chair. but we need new ideas. people open to mobilizing everybody, not just one sector of the democratic party and i think you are going to see that with leader hakeem jeffries in congress. with the next slate of dnc officers and i plan to put my best foot forward because i do have a platform and that is a is what we are running on, a platform of change and consistency. a platform of doing what you have talked about in jesse jackson. along with the younger folks on the ground. a plan that brought black men and women and white women and lgbtq on a call telling everyone to get out and vote. so i want to bring a lot of

that to the table with the dnc and travel the country as i have done in the past. also being one of harris' folks. >> i want to talk to you about that. the dnc race. you chaired the congressional black caucus elected bus. you worked with all of us in the civil rights community very closely. and the black vote was central to the democrats' efforts in the past election cycle. still you have those who claim identity politics cost them all three branches and democrats didn't embrace diversity enough. both sides are argued. what should the party's approach be moving forward? >> i think we have to make sure we clear that up with our messaging. we need a platform with those individuals from the top down officers who are pledging they will be inclusive.

we have to make sure people do not abandon diversity and equity. we can't have a party that is one sided. that is not just race, gender and ethnicity. it is thought, it is demographics and i plan to be a part and will work with anybody that won't close out people. that's why my plan is count us in. it is not just those who are leading. it's those that are following. it is those who are on the ground and also people like yourself reverend al. the civil rights leaders who don't have a vote. we can't leave them outside. we have to galvanize them. we can't be afraid to embrace those who are governors and mayors and members of congress and city leaders. if we are going to get this right and we have four years to do it, we better have a plan that doesn't leave anybody behind. that the person can come in ready to go with a track record

of successfully leading and mobilizing. it is what you have delivered and what you have don't i believe i have worked with all groups. union, labor, religious leaders to make a difference and that's what i am going to bring to the table. >> out of time, but before i let you go, i would like to get your comment on the death of inmate robert brooks whose beating by state correction officers was captured on body cam footage released this weekend by new york attorney general tish james. i warn the audience the footage is violence showing officers punching and kicking brooks while he is hand toughed to a prison bed. he died in the hospital the next day. james and the governor and state correction officials have taken action. 14 workers at the prison have

been fired. what are your thoughts on this tragedy? what are your thoughts as you see these continual things? >> reverend al, i joined all of them. this was one of the hardest things i had to watch. someone laying down a metal hospital bed being beaten and then subsequently to die. too bad we can't legislate civility and intelligence and prison guards controls but we did pass a bill on accountability. and what i'm saying whether it is the body cameras or putting more cameras around to protect those who are supposed to be protected by those guarding them, we have to take more accountability and make a point that those people are held

accountable. no pat on the back. this man has lost his life. 40 something years old. he deserves better treatment and we have to stand with the system to make sure there are consequences from the top down when they don't follow their own systems. when we don't have accountability. and we have a bill that lucy mcbath introduced to do just that. to have oversight. we passed a bill two years ago to make sure that we had cameras in those prisons. we have to do more. what we are doing is not working. joining me now is washington democratic congressman adram smith. ranking member of the armed service committee. thank you for joining me today, congressman. to start, i want to ask you about a series of social media posts from president-elect

trump over the holidays. suggesting the u.s. should make canada a 51st state. buy greenland from denmark and take control of the panama canal. some insist trump is just trolling, how seriously do you take this and what does it say about how trump plans to project power internationally in his second term? >> i think it is all very expected. he has a pretty straightforward play book. he bullies and blusters everybody around him. he mostly likes to talk tough, intimidate people and talk about how the u.s. is getting a raw deal. where does it lead? nobody really knows. it is certainly dangerous. he is not going to invade

panama and take the canal. it is his style. to bully and belittle friends and adversaries alike. it's the same way he campaigns and i think it is dangerous. >> now earlier today, russian president vladimir putin apologized to the president of azerbaijan for the crash of the civilian airliner that killed 38 people in kazakhstan. though he did not take responsibility for what happened. russia is claiming it was attacked by ukrainian drones repelled by russian air defenses. two u.s. military officials said they had indications that russia might have misidentified the plane and shot it down. all of this. cosas trump is pushing for a meeting with putin as soon as

possible to strike a peace deal on ukraine. >> we need to keep arming ukraine so they can defend themselves. if president trump is able to get to vladimir putin and get a piece deal to end this war, that's great. but it will not happen if he kits off ukraine. putin would be in kyiv today if we didn't pass the aid package last year, we have to support ukraine. as far as the shooting down of this plane, it points again to russian incompetence and to the deadly cost of the war in ukraine. and the reason the entire world unite. >> we mentioned you are the ranking member on the armed services committee. can you talk about the

democratic vision to counter what trump is planning on and how can you enact it? >> the u.s. cannot be a dominant global. the republican message that we will bully our way around the world and win everywhere is dangerous and wrong. the u.s. needs to play a positive role in the world to move us to a more peaceful prosperous society. the key part of it is the unaligned nations. russia and china are trying to build an international order and pull these countries in. we need to make sure that doesn't happen. and it can't be about just america first. we have to say we want a partnership with india. so what is important to india? we will work with them on that. same for brazil and all of those other countries. so we will work toward our interests but we are also not

going to have the same hubristic arrogance that made us believe we could dominate the world and force it in one direction or another. so i think we have a real opportunity to present a contrast to donald trump's bullying and attacking partners and allies alike so we have a better vision for a peaceful world where we can all exist. >> i wanted to get your thoughts on a debate raging online right now. between trump allies elon musk and vivek ramaswamy. crucial to keep american companies competitive. trump reportedly told the new york post that he supports

immigration visas for highly skilled workers. but, it's gotten some backlash from others who say trump should put the interest of american workers first and in some cases the debate has devolved into straight up racism. what has been your reaction to all of this infighting among the maga trump crowd? >> the number one biggest thing is trump built his campaign on a coalition of people who were angry and aggrieved. they were primarily angry and aggrieved about their beliefs about the extreme left then a less specific anger about the elites in the establishment so trump spoke to that anger but there wasn't any particular policy agenda around that. people came from different places. now they have to govern and there will be a major crackup. people in the tech industry which supported trump support

more visas. a lot of trump supporters don't support immigration period. there will be a major clash and it is an opportunity for democrats to present an alternative vision. this specific issue is less important than what you will be seeing. let's start with the doge and fiscal responsibility. trump has promised not to cut just about anything. and to cut a whole bunch of taxes. and to balance the budget. that's not possible. so we'll see what happens when they begin to deal with reality. that's what they will come crashing into. there is not a consistency to their policy within their coalition. anger and grievance can only get you so far before you have to deliver something. >> congressman adam smith of washington, thank you for being with us. coming up, new year, new outlook. i'll tell you why it is time to

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like race. immigration, crime and punishment and in a whole host of other ways we haven't yet thought of or anticipated. we must remain committed to the fight. that is why in my capacity i will be marching and rallying in washington on january 20th, the federal holiday for dr. martin luther king jr. it's inauguration day. that while donald trump is being sworn in for a second term on one side of the nation's capital, we will be rallying on the other side. for justice. equality, and change. this is not a demonstration of resistance, but rather a display of persistence. we have fought too hard for too long and accomplished too much to allow the civil rights movement to be derailed or reversed over one election or several elections. our values are american values

and we must fight to preserve and build upon them. so as we head into next year, i would urge all of you to rise up and resolve to be even more politically act i in 2025. not less. if you like, you can join me in washington dc for the rally. be with us january 20th or be somewhere not confronting maga, but confronting the fact we need to keep fighting for what's right. g for what's right.

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strategist and msnbc analyst susan del percio, and dana. dana, elon musk, vivek ramaswamy, are tapped to run trump's incoming department of government official city as partners. this week, they angered many trump supporters by speaking out for visas for foreign tech workers and called many american workers lazy and un educated. donald trump's inauguration is three weeks away. can the maga coalition hold it together at least until donald trump takes office? >> i don't know reverend al. donald trump said he was going to look out for the forgotten man and woman. he is looking out for the forgotten billionaires. we shouldn't be surprised that these are the policies we are

getting. you know, they attempted last week to clear the deck for massive new tax cuts for millionaires. donald trump said all nice things about president xi from china. walking back all the tariff talk. now he is siding with elon musk saying we can have some more h1b visas. i don't think any of us should be shock had donald trump didn't keep his word but seems like he pulled the wool over a lot of his supporters' eyes. so no, i don't think they will be able to hold together the unity. he said one thing and it is clear he will govern in a completely different direction. >> we are learning trump has sided with elon musk on the

worker visas. the president- elect says he has always been a fan of the h1b visas. will that be enough to calm the waters with his base? >> no. because there will be business people who need farm workers to get their crops in. they will ask for that as well. donald trump speaks as usual in broad ideas and rhetoric when it comes to whatever policy he is discussing. but when it comes down to the depails because he doesn't understand or know the fundament halls, he finds himself having so make excuses. that is because he is dealing with a lot of republicans who have been there along time who think of themselves as somewhat

principled. having the same type of votes over and over on the debt ceiling. just because donald trump says we're now the party about that, it just doesn't make it so. so i don't expect a lot to be done that can only pass with republican votes because all it take is a handful of people to say this is not for me. so there will be a lot more negotiation. and the visas are just the beginning of it. >> dana, this week, the trump team asked the supreme court to delay its decision on the tiktok ban. set to take effect just the day before his inauguration so he has time to negotiate a deal with some chinese owned plead platform. steve minuchin has expressed interest in putting together a bid for tiktok.

what's going on here? >> what's going on here, reverend, you had a bipartisan majority in congress pass this law because they thought tiktok as it stands now is a national security concern putting us in jeopardy. at our expense. with china. trump seems to have recognized that but then he came in and said there is a higher concern. tiktok is pretty good for me. we have seen this sort of thing over and over again. oh, i used h1b visas on my properties. so it is an interesting thing. i mean, it is possible he could get somebody to put together a deal. but you know, he is playing with american national security here and it will be interesting to see if the supreme court will once again give him what

he wants. >> susan, house republicans need to hit the ground running in the new year. they need to elect a speaker when they return from recess before they can ratify the results of the election january 6th. several have misgivings about keeping mike johnson on as speaker and the margins are historically thin. do you think his speakership is in jeopardy? >> it is in jeopardy for as long as donald trump is silent. if donald trump says this is what has to happen, i think speaker johnson will be there. i don't even think johnson enjoys being speaker in this kind of situation. find someone else who can get the votes. he has done a fairly good job in working with hakeem jeffries on the democratic side to get some legislation done the last

couple of years that has been very difficult and quite a challenge to keep our nation moving. recently when it came down to the continuing resolution. so i think that trump will probably support johnson because it is in trump's best interest, especially if he wants that election certified. >> dana and susan, thank you both for being with us. coming up, advocates for migrant rights are gearing up for the possibility of last deportations in the new year, we will tell you what they are doing to look out for the vulnerable. that's next. vulnerable. that's next.

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earlier this week, president trump's incoming border czar reaffirmed the next administration's commitment to a nationwide migrant purge that could impact millions across the u.s. and globally. among the warnings a proposed return to family separation policy of the first trump administration that has immigrant right groups bryceing. thank you for joining us.

and we appreciate it. we are getting right to it. nearly 6 million families in the u.s. are home to at least one undocumented immigrant according to recent data from the center for migration studies. and trump's incoming border czar says the next administration is not bluffing on his intention to purge 11 million undocumented immigrants. >> family detention if we bring it back. it is on the table. if you choose to have a child here in the united states while you know you are here illegally and have a court order to deport, that's on you. >> that's on you. how can groups like yours assist migrants and make things

easier when the government is adopting policies where the cruelty is the point? >> thank you for having me reverend. that is absolutely the point. cruelty is the modus aperandi for how they want to handing where some of their families have status and others don't and cruelty will mean separating them and placing some of them in so-called soft sided facilities. what we are doing is working directly with communities, providing information about what the rights are and helping them organize themselves so that they can defend their constitutional rights and protections so they don't fall victim to these so-called raids. >> now trump's immigration team

is planning to roll back past enforcement protections for undocumented immigrants in places like churches, schools, hospitals, tactics that will target the most vulnerable migrants in the most vulnerable places. in response, i read groups like yours have seen a massive spike in questions from immigrants about their civil rights. how are you preparing immigrants and what are you hearing from them? >> the first reaction following the election result was an expression of fear, uncertainty but in providing basic information where people understand their constitutional protections these provide people with the resources they need to protect themselves. when they know what the the fifth amendment means for them. how they can apply the fourth amendment protections.

and they are able to better prepare for the possibility of being confronted by immigration agents that are questioning them about their status. let's be clear, here the separation is meant to deter would be migrants from remaining in the united states and this idea that families should self-deport is preposterous. families are rooted in their communities. they are our neighbors. they go to our churches and schools. they are members of our families. we don't intend to' a large number of people self-deport. we are seeing more community based organization to push back against these threatening languages coming from the administration. >> a guatemalan immigrant has been charged with murder and arson after he allegedly set a woman on fire in a subway car

last weekend. right wing news outlets have emphasized that the accused was here in the u.s. illegally adding to the right's depiction of migrants as dangerous. how do you push back against that when incidents are weaponnized? >> we showcased the families with whom we work. the mothers and fathers caring for their children contributing in many different ways to their own communities. people that are going to schools. that we are talking to our neighbors. there are thousands upon thousands of community members that are part of the fabric of migrants that made this country and improved the country in ways that contrast against a

white supremacist agenda that vilifies every foreign born person who is part of this country. >> trump's incoming government efficiency czars elon musk and vivek ramaswamy insisted that america needs to leave the hb1 visa program to bring in more skilled foreign workers because the u.s. doesn't produce enough of them. trump says he backs the visa program but many of his supporters took issue with the comments. some resorting to racist language against immigrants of color. as you watch this unfold, do you think there is an opening here to push for a more rational and humane immigration approach or is this just maga theater? >> it certainly is to a certain

extent. a debate on how to dehumanize the migrants. whether to take a xenophobic view or exploitive violent exploitive view of people coming to work in the united states. we develop policies for those already in the united states and those arriving, seeking asylum status that we center their basic protections and not get into zero sum game about which migrants merit status and which ones don't. which is a lose lose situation for everyone. >> pedro rios with american friends service. thank you for being with us. up next, my final thoughts. stay with us. thoughts. stay with us. we ready? mhm, hehe. i need to get me a new phone. you need to trade-in that old busted up phone

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as we approach new years, how you spend holidays tells us a lot about you. i spent christmas day this week, first going to national action network. helping the efficient staff there serve hundreds, literally hundreds of people that were homeless and elderly hot meals. we have begun doing this for decades. giving toys to kids. later that evening i made a surprise trip to chicago to visit my mentor reverend jesse jackson abdomen his family and my daughters went with me because they grew up going to christmas at the jacksons. we went to lunch with the reverend and his son and congressman jackson who there is a ground swell asking him to run for chairman of the democratic national committee. and i have spent time on the

phone getting president biden to consider giving pardons. you work at what you believe in, ian on holidays. but you also celebrate family and those that helped you become you and those that will help you become a better you. that's why i hope you will talk about the direction of the country. even if your family may have disagreements, we must find common ground. that's why we are not going to confront the maga crowd, we'll be on the other side of washington at a historic church having a rally. we can at least continue to stand up and fight. it is time for those of us that know better to help make the country do better. it's on us. those ahead of us did it for us. we must keep standing up for

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