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good morning. it's sunday, december 29th. you're watching velshi. i'm charles coleman jr. in for my friend. we have a lot to talk about. just 22 days until donald trump takes office for the second time. trump has hand picked the people he wants in his inner circle. his desired cabinet. the folks who will help craft legislation, lead departments, and make crucial departments about our nation's security. but the fate of some of donald trump's cabinet picks remains unclear. since the election the president-elect wasted no time in announcing key figures for his cabinet and other senior positions and important ambassadorships. you're looking now at just some of trump's dozens of selections, some of which are going to need senate confirmation. republicans will still be in control of the senate in the next congress, but some of trump's more controversial
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selections could still have an uphill battle. former fox news host pete hegseth, for example, has been tapped for secretary of defense. hegseth has suggested that members of the military who embrace the dei programs should be fired and has openly questioned if women should serve in combat roles. he faces accusations of excessive drinking by former colleagues and has been accused of sexual assault. he denies any wrong doing and has never been charged. robert f. kennedy jr. has selected as nhs secretary, despite no medical background. prior to the election, donald trump told a crowd at a rally he's going to, quote, let rfk go wild on health. i'm going to let him go wild on the food. i'm going to let him go wild on the medicines. cabinet picks gone wild i
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guess. then there's kash patel who donald trump has picked for fbi director. in the past patel has vowed, quote, it come after members of the media and others who are critical of donald trump. he also said he would shut down the fbi's washington headquarters and turn it into, quote a museum of the deep state. former florida congressman matt gaetz initially picked for attorney general, however, he withdrew his name from consideration amid the lack of support in congress amid a heap of controversy. now in his place, pam bondi has been selected. the former florida attorney general. she is considered a staunch trump loyalist. senate confirmation hearings are expected to begin in just a few weeks. joining me is erin haynes from the 19th news, host of the amendment podcast and an msnbc contributor also philip bump a
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national columnist for the washington post. phil, let's look at the future senate hearings. who has the biggest uphill battle? any of the high profile picks who you think may get in pretty easily? >> those are the core questions. you articulated the ones the most controversial, hegseth. i think we are at the point people watching the show are more tuned in than most americans. once the hearings start and americans pay more attention to the extent they will at all, it's more difficult for the republicans and the trump administration. i do think it's the case, when we talk about situations like this, we are talking about political capital. we are talking about how much political capital, how much democrats want to actually try
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to fight the picks and how much republicans want to defend them. i'm not sure we have a good read yet on what the political costs are going to be for republicans if they do stand with pete hegseth or rfk jr. it's hard to say because it's so early and there's relatively low awareness of who the people are. i think the challenge for trump is going to be it will not take very long for these picks to potentially become gigantic headaches, forcing the republican senators to say, okay, i can't back all of them. who am i going to select? i think that's going to be the narrative as the hearings start. >> in the last hour, we talked about the absence of black choices with respect to some of trump's cabinet picks primarily herschel walker as an ambassador, and scott turner as the pick to head up housing and urban development. aside from that, there's a complete void, virtually. what do you make of that, and what should america be
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interpreting from that absence and that void? >> yeah, i mean, charles, i think it's interesting that you do have a lack of black men being nominated for the cabinet positions given trump's outreach to black men during the election and the support that you did see among some number of black men for him in november. so i think that certainly like any constituency, black men are looking for those votes to translate into representation, and that is not really something that happened even though you had several high profile black republican male surrogates for donald trump when he was on the campaign trail in november. another observation i want to point out, less than half of the picks are women. there's not much diversity among the group of three dozen as we have pointed out. his first -- the president- elect's first term had one of the least diverse cabinets in history. this is a cabinet, if
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confirmed, is track to look like leadership also in the gop controlled house when they take office in january where white men are set to dominate. with no men, no people of color chairing any committees in the house, how is any of this real live representative government for an administration that is supposed to be governing on behalf of everyone? >> hardly building a multiracial democracy at all. phil, donald trump has made a lot of promises around what he wants to do on day one. is there any particular pick that you believe would be most helpful in terms of helping execute his agenda, whether that's on immigration, whether that's pardoning january 6th folks, stopping the war in ukraine and everything else in between? who do you think may be his biggest asset going into day one given his number of promises? >> i think it's probably the attorney general. the attorney general has a lot of say over what is happening
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with the larger criminal investigations that donald trump intends to do targeting his political opponents. the department of justice has an enormous amount of influence over immigration policy and how immigration is enforced. if you're thinking of which trump appointee is the closest to him and what he wants to do, i think we are talking pam bondi for a.g. he wants someone he can rely on, the nice way to say lap dog. someone who would no matter what do what he wanted. pam bondi has shown over her career she's willing to do that as well. that was the position he wants someone who is as loyal as possible as soon as possible. >> erin, i'm not sure two letters and one number have as ever caused as much controversy as h1b as the last couple of days. the h1b visa conversation has erupted in a fire storm of controversy and end fighting
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within the republican party. elon musk and vivek ramaswamy have now sort of found themselves on the outs with hard-core mega rights. i'm wondering, is this a preview of what we can expect as the republican party moves toward? can they keep it together to even get the confirmation picks through? how long is maga paradise going to last into this administration? >> yeah, i mean, normally you would think the honeymoon period would at least go into inauguration or the first 100 days, but things already seem to be going off the rails. the fight you mentioned over the last several days over h1b visa issue with what we already saw with the shutdown showdown. the government shutdown that was narrowly averted could be a preview of what we can expect, especially with the confirmation hearings. we know president-elect trump's election was not a mandate, but he may not have the grip on his party that many people assume.
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these confirmation picks are not a done deal. you have senators holding out and holding off, and not to mention, people like elon musk, vivek ramaswamy, laura loomer, and who knows who else could come out and hop on truth social or x and post something and derail, you know, just the latest step in the transition or the confirmation hearings, so, you know it does feel like we are a long way from the republican national convention when you had people getting back in line and making up with president-elect trump or even, you know, these meetings that have been happening, these feel- good meetings happening at mar- a-lago. could they be derailed if somebody hops on social media and says they have an issue with any of these picks? i think the h1b visa back and forth that we have seen back and forth could be a preview of what is to come with the nomination hearings. >> trouble in maga paradise could equal rocky waters for the rest of us. thank you aaron haynes and
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phillip bump for getting us started on this second hour of velshi. the tale of two grandfathers who bought homes in the early 1900s. 100 years later, their stories have different endings. how the discriminatory policies have forced many homes in black neighborhoods to go into foreclosure. i will speak to a young man who is a voice for the democratic party and his peers. at just 13 years old, he knows what is at stake in the country for his future and future generations. stay tuned. fut ure generations. stay tuned. jordan's sore nose let out a fiery sneeze, so dad grabbed puffs plus lotion to soothe her with ease. puffs plus lotion is gentle on sensitive skin and locks in moisture to provide soothing relief. a nose in need deserves puffs indeed. america's #1 lotion tissue.
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confirmed dead with just 2 crew members surviving and sustaining moderate injuries. the plane, which originated in bangkok, thailand, was carrying 181 people. let's get right to this with nbc's megan fitzgerald who is following the story from london. megan, what do we know? >> look, charles, as you just mentioned, talking about a full flight here with 181 people when it crashed into a barrier wall at the end of the runway there. we want to warn you, though, that the footage you're about to see is graphic. so if you take a look at the video here, you can see the moment when the plane comes in for a landing, and it's just skidding along the runway after its landing gear apparently failed before it crashes into the wall and erupted into a massive fire ball. it's incredible to think that just two people managed to survive. sadly the other 179 people on board died.
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flight radar tracking the journey didn't appear to show anything unusual, but officials said a bird strike may have started the deadly chain of events causing the pilot to issue a mayday warning. investigators are searching for answers, but officials are saying it could take between six months to three years to complete a full investigation. charles? >> that was nbc's megan fitzgerald in london. thank you. still ahead after the break a proposed bill in south carolina is showing us just how bad things can get for women in america. the bill would charge anyone who gets an abortion with murder. and that's not even the worst part. i will explain next on velshi. i will expla in next on velshi.
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who obtain abortions with murder a crime punishable by death. it's dubbed the prenatal equal protection act would amend the criminal code by expanding the definition of person who include an unborn child at that means a woman who obtains an abortion at any stage could be charged with homicide. public and state representative magnison could not be clearing about the goal saying, quote, we are trying to make sure abortion is completely outlawed in south carolina. if this is passed, the bill would be the harshest antiabortion legislation in the country. while it does have little chance of passing, critics are warning against dismissing it as politics as usual. according to jessica velenti, south carolina republicans have demonstrated again and again that they believe women's lives
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are expendable, worthless if not for our reproductive ability, yet we are expected to react like it's simply politics, and it's perfectly fine that our suffering and deaths are being debated in state houses and courtrooms as if we are not being humans but thought exercises and legal arguments. right now south carolina has a six-week ban on abortion. last year the state gop attempted to pass a near total abortion ban, but it failed after the only five republican in the state senate staged a filibuster. they became to be known as the sister senators including one democrat, one independent, and all three republican women in the chamber. those three republican women went on to lose their primaries earlier this year for bucking the party line on abortion. one of those sister senators is joining me now. mia macleod is a former
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independent state senator. she and her fellow sister senators got the john f. kennedy courage award for those who risk their careers for the greater good. also joining us melissa murray from new york university and the cohost of the scrutiny podcast. so glad to have you both at this hour. i get to take off my glasses and talk to a lawyer. one gamecock and one cavalier. mia, i want to start with you. this is not the first time that a bill of this nature has come up in south carolina. why does this continue to persist even as these measures have not been successful in the past? >> this war on women is definitely not new. to even think of suggesting women and girls to the death
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penalty in south carolina is unconscionable. we have in south carolina some of the highest maternal and infant mortality rates, and it's just unbelievable that house and senate members republicans would go to this extreme, to these extreme pressures to vilify and criminalize women and girls in that way. >> now, melissa, some of the justification given underlying the bill is coming directly from biblical text heavily influenced by religious ideology. can you talk briefly about the danger of mixing the two worlds and how it has played a part in drafting very dangerous pieces of legislation like this? >> certainly. they talked about the notion that the fetus is made in the image of god, very much rooted in christianity. obviously we live in a society
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with plural religious traditions. not all of them are christian. that goes against that. i want to go back to the point you made earlier this is called the south carolina equal protection act for the unborn, and that's really significant because they are framing this in a matter of fetal personhood. the idea is that abortion is homicide. abortion is discrimination against the fetus, and it opens the door to thinking about the fetus not as an unborn entity, but as a person and viewed with the saemisch story and constitutional rights as any person who has actually been born. that means we are now on the road to fetal personhood. in the supreme court's decision of dobbs, they said they would leave it the states. i always said it was an unattainable settlement. if you believe abortion is murder, you cannot be okay with connecticut and new york doing it the end goal was always fetal personhood this is as we begin the march, maybe quick or
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slow, but the progress has already begun to give the fetus being a person for all purposes. >> on one hand, these bills have not passed, and they have not passed, and in this case, of course, there was a very, very slim majority of who i they did not pass. so slim, the people including yourself ensured it did not pass and did not get reelected. on one hand, a sentiments that we don't want this to happen, by the slightest and thinnest of margins, and on the other hand, the people kept it from happening were put out of a job. where do you think the public is actually falling on this issue? >> well, we know where the public falls, and the public is
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with us. when i say us, i mean my sister senators and me on this issue. we fought for years to try and get this issue on the ballot so that the public can weigh in, and they know, the republicans know they are outnumbered, outvoted on this issue, and that is why they have made it so difficult us to bring it to the ballot as a ballot measure and to hear directly from the public where they stand on the issue. >> melissa, contextually, even though it's a conversation we are having about south carolina, can you talk about what is going on across the country and in other state houses and or what we might be looking for in a new term in front of the supreme court around this very issue? >> well, right now there aren't that many questions regarding abortion before the supreme court. there will certainly be some that percolate up from the
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lower courts. as i said, we are seeing the normalization of fetal personhood. it's a theory for many was fringed for a very long time. as we hear from alabama where just last year we saw that ivf was outlawed, again on the theory that those embryos were people, and they could not be selectively destroyed or frozen, and they were actually people, ready and waiting to be born. that's the beginning of normalizing the process. it will have repercussions not only for abortion but for ivf, wrongful death statutes throughout the country. it doesn't end with abortion. it ends with women having the same legal lights as unborn entities, and that, of course, means the whole question if a pregnant woman's health and life is prioritized over the fetus, isn't the same question we are asking now. it's a different question once you make the fetus a person. >> i'm always trying to
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provide opportunities to engage where people are passionate. mia, you have been in the state house, unlike some of your colleagues who didn't get reelected, you chose to essentially walk away. now that you did not seek reelection, how will you engage in the fight as a civilian? i'm asking because that can be instructive to people watching who want to know what they can do. >> these are issues i have always cared about and always been passionate about. i just plan to be -- to continue to be active and continue to be engaged in these types of conversations. you know, in south carolina the religious zealous we see pushing this are the ones who cut the programs and services that women and girls in our state need to survive. so it is not rocket science.
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this is wrong on so many levels. it's, you know, when i think about the title of some of the bills, equal protection doesn't even have a place in that equation because it is not about equal protection. it is about this, continuing this war on women. i introduced a bill not too long ago when the six-week abortion ban was first introduced, and it's called the probirth accountability act. these are not pro-life legislators. they are all about the birth, and they are not interested in providing prenatal or postnatal care to women and girls in south carolina. they are not interested in, you know, when i think about personhood, if we want to talk about, and a fetus being a person, then, you know, that should have some tax
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implications and also require that the state put their money where their mouths are as it relates to the programs and services that babies, infants, toddlers, babies, school-aged children, college-aged students, all need programs and services to help them survive and hopefully thrive as human beings. none of this legislation is interested in that. my programs accountability about would have given them every opportunity to invest in these persons that they seem to love and be obsessed with, and you know, they weren't even willing. we got a hearing, but it went no further than that. they aren't interested in actually investing in human beings.
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they are only interested in controlling women and making sure that they have all of the say as it relates to, you know, what we can and cannot do. the personal sessions that should be ours have been taken away from us. >> from the palmetto state, former state senator mia macleod and analyst melissa murray. velshi will be right back. a murray. velshi will be right back. (♪♪) (♪♪) start your day with nature made. and try new zero sugar gummies.
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even the homes not facing foreclosure found unattainable challenges. the professor's years of research and reporting in detroit and beyond that led her to her new book titled "plundered." in it she writes red lining deprives homeowners of access to home repair loans and other capital. then during the great recession, predatory mortgage loans and the foreclosure crisis decreased values in the same red lined areas further. consequently, the home repairs exceeded the home value, leaving these homeowners' children and grandchildren to inherit money pits instead of assets. after a cost-benefit analysis, many walked away from their
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years of deep research and reporting and combines that with the compelling heart fell story telling. bernadette atuahene illustrates how the policies led the families from an identical starting place down starkly different paths. i'm so excited about the work and so glad you are here. your book begins with two men. two black former sharecroppers from south carolina and one white sharecropper from italy. both moved from their families to detroit looking for work at the ford factory. from there, everything goes differently, and that impacts their family for generations. can you talk to us about this story? >> absolutely. so neither grandfather had an easy life. the book goes through how racist policies affected the black grandfather's ability to pass along wealth to his
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grandchildren, and the italian grandfather and his family survived. including predatory mortgage lending and inequitable property taxation that we can talk about in a minute. i call these racist policies because they are written processes that sustain racial inequity. they exist regardless of intention. although by book begins with detroit and the ford motor company, it's not just about detroit. it's a national story of how racist policies undermine black homeownership policy in america. >> there's the transfer of generational wealth, something that people don't really appreciate the significance of, and also the notion that both started out, and it wasn't easy
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for either of them. people who are not black are quick to say my family didn't have it easy. you merge the two things and incorporate the notion of policy being a barrier, it really does help to explain why our struggles, in fact, are not the same. given that, explain to me the practice of predatory governance. how does it work? what is the impact specifically on black americans? >> yeah, and so predatory governance is a policy i create in this book to talk about instances like the property tax foreclosure crisis in detroit. so, let me use kind of the story in my book to really illustrate the concept. in 2008, miresha inherited grandpa brown's home that was delapidated due to the policies.
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then the city officials overvalued and overtaxed the homes in detroit, leading to historic rates of foreclosure. since 2009, one in three homes have completed the property tax foreclosure process. we have not seen this number of property tax foreclosures in american history since the great depression. so what in the world is going on? one of my studies found from 2009 and 2015, in each of the seven years, the city of detroit inflated the value of 53 to 84% of its homes in violation of the michigan state constitution. the lowest valued homes like marisha's inheritance not hit the hardest. this is quintessential example of predatory governance, when local governments basically illegally -- they overtax, they charge black people more
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because, and again, their intention is not important, but the point is these funds go in to the public treasury. we do a lot of talking corruption, right, but no matter the definition of corruption, ifm, transparency international, it's always private gain. the predatory governance opens up the conversation of when it's not an individual, but it's the state treasury itself that is benefiting from the racist policies. again the story of the property tax inequity in detroit is a quintessential example of predatory governance. >> so excited to check out plundered as soon as it drops. thank you, bernadette atuahene, for being here on "velshi." still ahead, whitney houston said our children are the future, famously, and we all know that. my next guest is the perfect example. he's a 13-year-old who has
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kamala harris' campaign began essentially a viral tiktok sensation geared to young people, many went to the right. voters made up 10% for joe biden. they made up 15% of the vote for trump. another key detail, the fact that voter registration for newly registered voters this year was seriously lacking compared to 2020. this is probably a sign it's time to reengage the future of america. one young man is already doing his part. you might remember knowa de baraso from the dnc this year when he schooled mike lindell. >> you want to know more in
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your state 257,000 votes, a judge ruled in georgia, that are missing from the 2020 election. this just came out you're behind. >> your source is trust me bro? >> no, the source in your paper in georgia. >> you haven't given me any last names. >> this is your georgia news. >> yeah, okay, okay. >> you're full of -- >> have a good day, sir. >> imagine you're a grown man, millionaire yelling at a 12- year-old. this is america, y'all. anyway, knowa de baraso is joining me now. he is now 13 years old, and he's an influencer and internet personality. knowa, i'm glad to talk to you this morning. the debate talked about holding power to account. what does that mean in shining light on the truth as you see it? >> good to joining you today. thank you to the "velshi" channel for having me.
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i will say this, accountability was key in the election, and the reason why donald trump didn't win in the landslide that he opened. elon musk had to steer it for him. kamala harris showed accountability, and that's something we need from the 2028 nominee and the upcoming dnc chair. >> one of the things that is interesting to me is that younger people are navigating a world in terms of social media that is wrought with misinformation. what you did with that clip in challenging mike lindell, provide me a source, give me your source, is not something a lot of us are doing. how do you get your peers to look at things more critically to make those types of decisions and assertions and make sure that they are getting information that is true and accurate? >> yeah, you scroll through tiktok. i could easily say this person did this, but if you aren't doing the fact checking, that's just stupid. you have to be able to google
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stuff. it's not like google charge as monthly subscription to fact check yourself. you can easily look up the facts you're seeing. you say kamala harris never worked at mcdonald's? look it up. there's studies on the stuff, and you're listening to a tiktok creator on it. look, i say stuff all the time, and i make it so you can easily fact check me. i provide the stuff i'm saying, if i'm making a tiktok video saying kamala harris worked at mcdonald's, i want you to look that up to fact check it. that's something people should want everyone to do that. >> you give me a lot of hope, knowa. there's many people in your age group who are not considering the consequences of the attacks on democracy at the level you are right now. what do you think it's going to take in order to get them thinking about things and engaged at a higher level? >> honestly they are going to have to lose something, whether that be their education, public
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education they take for granted, their grandma's social security, they are not going to get them the new nikes they want, or anything. they need to be able to lose something. luckily i haven't lost anything from that, and i can easily just fact check and look at the facts without having to lose anything in the process, but if you're taking it so much for granted, taking this country so much for granted, you're not willing to do the research for it. >> knowa, you are right in the think of things throughout the course of the presidential election cycle. what's your plan in terms of engaging the folks around you over the next two years as we approach midterms and then two years over the next presidential election cycle? yeah, i'm going to continue to use my once nonpartisan platform to get voters out, registering the aunties i was registering in georgia to go vote for whoever i'm supporting in the midterms because i think that's more important than ever
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for influencers to use their platform. focus on the platform. people who model clothes, use your platforms. use your platform to get people out to register to vote. that's what i'm going to be doing. i can't speak for anyone else, but that's what i'm going to be doing. >> that's a very important point. you just said whoever i am choosing to support, ossoff or someone else, you can't even vote, and you're already talking about who i'm choosing to support. explain why that's so important. >> it's simply because there's so much at stake. i mean, we are seeing elon musk and vivek ramaswamy arguing about which immigrants should come in and which immigrants shouldn't. like i said earlier, these folks might actually have to lose something. right now what we are counting on as a party, quite frankly, people will see high inflation under trump because of tariffs and say i made a mistake voting
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republican up and down the ballot. i made a mistake voting for donald trump, and i will support this democrat and in 2028, i will support the democrat, too. we are really counting on folks to see what they are losing and hoping they vote for the democrats in the midterms. >> shoutout to you for everything you are doing especially on a nonpartisan level, and also big shoutout to you for the drip you came on the show with today. not only are you keeping it heavy with respect to the work you're doing, but you're also doing a good job looking well while doing it. last question to you, sir, what is the one thing that you want to say very quickly to your peers about why they need to get into this fight with you? >> honestly i'm going to say this. i don't want you to lose something for you to understand how important this is. i don't want you to lose your public education. i don't want you to lose public transportation you rely on to watch a movie with your friends
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or cousins. i don't want you to lose any of this stuff. just trust folks. don't trust them too much where you're not fact checking them, but trust folks and make sure you're listening around you. don't listen to one side or hear the conservative commentator say something, and you are like democratic, liberal nonsense. listen to your people around you. >> knowa de baraso, thank you for being here. that's going to do it for me. i'm charles coleman jr. thank you to ali for letting me sit well, if we've learned anything over the past few weeks since the election, it's that we are in
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