democrats should not propound the dubious assertion that trump can operate. how can they stand up to trump while doing their duty to the country? >> look, i think, alex, the democratic opposition has to be a loyal and sober opposition. the country is really tired of outrage politics on both sides. i mean, for a couple of decades now you've had warnings about the end of the world coming if the other party wins and americans are really tired of that, so i think democrats have to be principled. they have to stand up for what they believe in. they have to try to defend the center of the country's politics and they have to not intimidate or demean people, and in the senate for republicans, there's a number of swing state republican senators and others

that are just ideologically centrist. they really have to look for those opportunities to stand up for the institution of the senate and the institution of congress and push back against trump when he tries to go too far. we already saw that with the matt gaetz nomination. i think there will be other examples of that looking forward. >> last question. government shutdown potential come march. do you think it happens? >> i don't think it happens because mike johnson, who will likely be the next speaker is going to, again, turn to democrats and democrats are going to deliver the votes needed to keep the government open. we know republicans can't do it on their own so johnson only has one choice and hakeem jeffreys in that regard has been a very good governing partner. >> okay. carlos curbelo, happy new year, my friend. >> new watches, warnings and worries as more americans hit the road for the holiday. ore am the road for the holiday

bidding you all a very good day from msnbc world headquarters in new york. welcome to "alex witt report "kwot. we are following the deadly plane crash in southior korea. 178 people were killed and the accident was captured on camera and i want to warn you this video is graphic. the plane skidded without landing gear before crashing into a wall and erupting interest flames though incredibly, two crew members is survived and they were rescued from the rear part of the wreckage. the investigation is in its early stages and no official word yet on the cause. seoul, south korea-based, and what is happening as we approach 24 hours from the tragic crash.

>> i had again, alex pip we'll start to hear more information when dawn arrives. it's been quiet overnight. we know that they're still conducting more of, you know, not a rescue, but a recovery and an identification process at this point, and the last i saw they had fingerprinted them and tried to recover their belongings. as you mentioned, this is so early that it's going to be a long time probably before we have any real sense of what caused this tragedy. i think in the meantime, this sort of lower hanging or more immediate directions i can see at least inquiries heading into media inquiries and other invest gagds are maybe focusing on the airline itself, jeju air. is there anything that we can see in the past that has come up that may have been a red flag that we're seeing now?

i haven't seen anything to this point. they actually have a really good safety record. they're a low-cost carrier. they've been around since 2005 and this is their first fatal accident, and they're the largest low-cost carrier in south korea. so i think there will be some look at the operations and their maintenance sheets pushed back against any intimations that there were any issues with maintenance or the cycle of maintenance on this plane or on their fleet. he really pushed back against the idea that these planes are overworked and flying too much. so he was pretty adamant about that not being a concern. i think there will be questions about south korea's own air -- aviation safety, but it's also been quite good for a long time. the last korean air, airline fatal accident was in -- or passenger plane was in 1997. korea had a previous -- in the

'90s and '80s had a spotty safety record and those were the kind of things that people will look at that are more immediate. you can get more answers to them. >> yeah. >> what did the airport respond? you know, what do we know about the piles? there were some questions about, you know, why didn't the airport put down, you know, materials to perhaps prevent the crash landing. >> they had put out a may day. all of this will be covered in the investigation, but i'm curious about the tragedy that these families are going through. you mentioned this as jeju airlines' first fatal plane crash. how had they operated communications with families and getting them to where they need to be and we see one woman there collapsing in tears. >> i think they responded quickly. they said they sent around 260 people and they set up their own base of operations in jeju --

sorry, in the muan international airport where the accident happened. yet at the same time i've also heard bereaved family members are angry. they want answers. they want the names to be read. they are yelling sometimes at the -- at the officials that are trying to answer their questions and there was something about them just even yelling to speak up louder and how much of that is just anguish, how much of that is a lack of proper response from the airline itself? it's hard to say right now, but that's obviously going to be something as well as how the government responds and the mood against the government is not great right now in south korea. it's in the midst of a lot of people. so that may spill over even if it's not even related. this will be another thick that the public -- it will be interesting to see how the public responds to memorials and

those were the immediate questions. >> thomas maresca, thank you very much for doing so. we'll talk to a retired airline pilot to get his take on the tragedy later this hour. let's get to the political news and the maga civil war over h-1b visas. president donald trump siding with elon musk and vivek ramaswamy in support of immigrant worker visas even as maga supporters demand more protections for americans. >> the american workers have been left behind by this economy. many factory jobs have been sent overseas and the abuses of the h-1b program have been evident where you have sort of the sons and daughters of those factory workers that got white collar jobs as accountants and they're training the replacements and the foreign workers undercutting their wages. >> one democrat said ramaswamy's attack on american culture and his characterization, rather, as breeding laziness and mead yok

rassy was wrong. >> there is a reason that america lead in nobel laureates in physics and medicine and chemistry. if there was some problem with the culture we wouldn't be the world's greatest economy of 30 trillion, but one of the points that i think elon and others are making is what makes america exceptional is that we are a magnet for the world's talent. and new reaction today to trump's christmas day foreign policy wish list to seize the panama canal, annex canada and buy greenland. >> the panama canal obligations were established by a treaty ratified by congress by this u.s. senate. so i don't know what the president-elect is saying in regards to how sincere he is, and if he really feeds into russia and china's appeal to other countries as to whether they need to make alliance s wih russia and china whether america

would be there for them. you saw the aim same statementsn he threatened to pull out of nato. a new warning today after several said they're undecided or will not vote for mike johnson. >> we can't get anything done unless we have a speaker including certifying president trump's election on january 6th. so to waste time over a nonsensical intramural food fight is a joke. if somebody thinks that they're going to be able to get 218 votes for somebody, let's say, out of the freedom caucus, they're kidding themselves. >> we've got reporters and analysts in place covering all of these developing story lines for us and we'll begin with msnbc's aly rafah joining us from mar-a-lago. elon musk's influence over donald trump and the republican party overall. are republicans concerned about

just how big of a presence musk has? >> yeah, alex. it's a great question especially because we have talked about the growing influence that elon musk has had over the president-elect recently with the perfect reason that the near-government shutdown last week that he had such a big role in. now we're seeing he and vivek ramaswamy, his partner in leading this effort to cut government spending in an indirect way giving advice to the president elect as to what the future of the u.s. workforce should look like, encouraging him to allow more foreign technology workers into the u.s. with the use of these h-1b visas that elon musk himself had when first arriving in this country to work. this has ignited a lot of backlash especially with trump supporters who are in avor of a hard line approach to all forms of immigration, but there are still some who are saying that this doesn't rise to the level

of needing to be concerned. they're saying they want to tamp down concerns that elon musk and ramaswamy have a very big influence over president-elect trump and take a listen to new hampshire's outgoing republican governor chris sununu this morning. >> as much as people say elon is a billionaire outsider. first, i don't mind that they're billionaires. i like people that are successful, what's the difference whether they're billionaire or broke? i like everyone that is successful. >> that's a pretty big one. >> the guy's worth $450 billion as of today and this month, so, i don't think he's doing it for the money. he's doing it for the bigger project and the bigger vision of america. he doesn't need the dollars. >> and alex, this has been igniting a lot of attention on social media in recent days and the president elect himself finally weighed in yesterday telling "the new york post" in a phone interview that he has always been in favor of the visas, and he called them a

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with just over three weeks left in president biden's single-term sidency a new article shares his regrets of his time in office. many believe the president believes he was wrong to withdraw from the presidential race after his disastrous debate performance and that he would have defeated donald trump despite most polls saying otherwise. joining me now former special assistant and director of message planning megan hayes and former pennsylvania congressman and our republican legacy senior adviser charlie dent. welcome to you both, my friends. megan, this article outlines how biden's philosophy about how to succeed in politics fell apart in the final phase of his presidency and how his governing through traditional institutions didn't always mesh with today's bitter partisan politics despite his many legislative

accomplishments. what are your feelings about where the president might have erred? >> yeah. i think there is a little bit of a disconnect in the media and how media is absorbed by people now than ten years ago or when he was vice president and i think it's very different. he had successful accomplishments with the infrastructure act and the c.h.i.p.s act and the inflation reduction act and there are things that will set up our economy for generations to come and it's hard to communicate where people get their dia so bifurcated. it's the way people get their news and the way people receive information and that was the white house is slow to act on that. >> i'm curious, megan, what you can tell us what drives the president's thinking. is it a somber mood and portrayed in the articles. is that familiar to you? >> i think he's doing best for

working class people. i believe at the core he believes he's doing what's best for the country and he's one of the least selfish people to work in politics and policies and it was geared around working class, unions around the middle class and making it stronger. so i do think that's what drives the president. >> so, charlie, how much is biden saying he regrets exiting the race and that he would have beat trump? how much is it the expressions of a veteran politician's ego? does trump's defeat of kamala harris give creed tones biden remaining in the race despite all of the warning signs? >> no, it doesn't. actually, joe biden should have never run in the first place. i was saying this over a year ago as many polls at the time were indicating that two-thirds of the american public thought one of the candidates, joe biden was too old and the other, donald trump, was too dangerous. if the candidate is too old, people thought that implicitly he'd be a transitional figure

and they were offended that he'd be too old, you're an ageist even though the country believed it. until that disastrous debate performance. i don't think his staying in the race would have won, his numbers were bad and didn't have a good answer on inflation and the biden administration contributed to a massive number of people in the country illegally. i'm not sure where they're getting this from. harris did the best she could under the circumstances and she did the best she could. >> he didn't get enough credit on his accomplishments especially on the economy. he acknowledged we are in a new media landscape he struggled to adapt to. what were the discussions in the white house about how to best communicate his mission. do you think biden would have been more effective in getting his message out if he'd gone

through non-traditional media outlets? >> the way we communicated was different and the way he interacted with the american people was different and everything was very different early on in the administration and he wasn't able to set people up economically and when inflation was at a high they were aren't able to communicate why ey were doing and i do think this getting -- being able to communicate on tiktok. being able to communicate to podcasts and those are important new media that that's where people get news sources out and traditional media where it is still very important it's not the same where americans are getting their information. >> charlie, in 2022, biden settled on a mid-term message focused on trump's threat to democracy, and many demeanor democrats made it a fatal mistake and not prioritizing the concern of the economy. >> should the biden campaign

understood the cost of living is montt and center in voters' minds. scranton, joe, most -- misjudged the pop laws furor in this country. >> yeah. i think he did misjudge things. clearly, inflation prices generally and high prices of groceries and gasoline and housing were driving much of the economic angst in this country and it didn't seem that biden or the biden administration had a great answer to that challenge facing voters. i think they were correct, though, to also focus on women's reproductive rights. that was clearly an issue that motivated a lot of voters, but that by itself wasn't going to do it. they needed a better economic message. yes, again, many people in the class were spending a lot of democracy especially democracy, and biden was saying if we didn't win democracy would be over. trump was saying if he didn't win we wouldn't have a country

anymore. both were more concerned about their immediate bottom lines and the democrats weren't able to deliver a sharp message in that regard. >> the message on abortion that did win the midterms in 2022. that was probably the driving factor, but whether it was going to be repeated was another thing and it apparently did not. megan, biden ran in 2020 that he would be a transitional one-term president. his presidency failed making trump's presidency seem like an aberration. is that a fair assessment? >> president trump was re-elected so i do think it's hard to go back on that, but i do think that the president did a lot of things and he put the country back on track and the american people rejectioned that, but i agree with congressman dent that we were not making sure that people understood what we were doing and we were not making their actual concerns and their bottom line front and center. people do not care about spending in ukraine when they

can't afford eggs or gas. so i do think that we miss the mark on those things and that's why democrats lost. >> charlie,canada, sort of shoo from the hip. do you have a feeling of dread i like, here we go again? >> i do worry quite a bit about trump chaos 1.0 and likely to see it again and calling canada the 51st state and going after greenland. he's picking fights with good allies. good allies with nato, canada and denmark. it doesn't make sense. canada, we have a good relationship and the canal zone is run well and we're not being abused and we're charged like everybody else. it just seems this is trump being trump and trump wanting to go after a bilateral negotiations and he doesn't

distinguish between friend and foe. >> so, charlie what do you think his message will be in his inaugural address and what should it be? >> i hope it's not american carnage. that was a pretty dark speech. i'm curious, maybe he should talk about the campaign and we should be able to handle inflation and we need to establish some sort of operational control of the border and deal with enforcement. that's where he should be focusing his time and energy, but i'm afraid he will be diverted with all of these other tangents intoing after canada, greenland and panama and who knows what else will come up? whatever the news of the day is, something that strikes his fancy. he is so unfocused and distractioned. he can't focus on a core message. if he's smart he'll stay to the issues that helped him win this election. >> we'll see, megan hayes,

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breaking news. parts of the south are being slammed by brutal storms. residents face the possibility of tornado, hail and floods. many are cleaning up from this weekend's damage when high winds and tornadoes tore out trees and

ripped through homes. at least three people were killed and the number of people without power is growing at this hour. this comes as americans are traveling before the new year. aaa predicting more than 100 million people are driving this season. nbc's marquise francis is joining us from ridgefield, new jersey, where drivers are passing through on their way home or out and about. marquise, welcome. the end is nearly in sight for weary travelers. what are you hearing? >> we are at the vince lombardi rest stop less than ten miles from manhattan. as i look to the left cars are forming at the gas station behind me and in front of me, cars are coming to almost a standstill on the highway and there's a de facto dog park just to the right of the camera. they are traveling up and down the east coast. as far south as virginia and as far north as maine and two things that are consistent, they need patience and a good

playlist. they'll need all of that because they'll be joined by the 100 million americans traveling around the world this holiday season which started last saturday the 21st and extends to the 1st. one thing that was consistent with pretty much everyone we spoke to, they just want to get home safely. take a listen. >> it's nice that people have somewhere to travel to and loved ones to be with and they're great travelers. they know it's worth it to see loved ones and we try to look forward to something at home. >> it's crazy. i mean, everyone wants to be with family, and i think that's great. >> yeah. >> so i'm happy that we were able to spend some time with family and we are looking forward to being at home. >> yes. if you plan on traveling home today and haven't left yet, i just want to say good luck. this is probably the worst time to travel. expect significant delays across the country, but get home safely. back to you, alex. >> you know what my very astute

executive producer just figured out looking at this live shot? planes, trains and automobiles in this shot, just so you know. i guess it's a special combo. at least nick is amused. thanks, marquise. i'm laughing, too. we love nick, but you know i'm laughing. thanks. new analysis after a plane veered off a runway and crashed in south korea. we'll get to the bottom of it after a break.to t

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on that horrific plane crash in south korea. at least 88 of the 179 passengers confirmed dead have been identified. according to officials, two crew members were rescued from the rear of the plane. the ntsb is leading a team of u.s. invest garts igators to as the ground and today president biden offered any additional assistance to south korea. they have the ockpit and voice recorders, but a full investigation can take more than three years. we have retired commercial pilot les advent. look, we still don't know the cause of this crash, but take us what steps a pilot goes through when encountering an emergency landing like this. >> well, alex, i'm scratching my head i have to admit, over this one. if it was an emergency landing we have to figure out what it was as far as an emergency and not getting the gear down and not having the appropriate flaps for a -- final flaps for a

landing is just -- it puzzles me because if there was a situation where the engines were powered, they could have gone around and picked their problem, not buying the landing gear failure part of it. it just -- with the flaps at what we call the approach setting which is 15 degrees on the 737, it just -- it doesn't make any sense because there are numerous ways to get that gear down. i've looked at the footage numerous times, and the reversers were on. they can be deployed without engine power, but it seems to me there was some employ engine power available and i'm scratching my head a little bit. >> you are joining others on the show in the two previous hours. the pilots called the mayday after a bird strike. what are the protocols for

handling that? could that have rushed the pilots in their landing to get the plane safely on the ground? would that be something to be considered? >> let me back up a little bit, alex. we normally get -- an airport near sea level or near the ocean has bird issues and we hear recorded broadcast and automatic terminal information services and it's not unusual and no one will panic and do some other procedure and we'll operate as normal when we hear there are birds in the area. what does concern me is what you mention side that they declared a mayday. did they hit a flock of birds end up in a situation like the hudson landing where they were attempting to get the nose down and increase the airspeed to get to that threshold and get the airplane on that runway at the very last minute. that -- it seems almost impossible to me, but certainly we've witnessed it as we did in 2009.

so it's indeed possible. >> how much of a difference is the fact that captain sully sullenberger, he was able to land on the hudson river perfectly with his trajectory, but that was going to provide a different landing than the asphalt of a runway. >> yeah. listen, water is very hard when you're landing an airplane on it. >> yeah, the plane could have come apart. >> i'm sorry, alex, please say it again. >> the plane would have come apart. he had the perfect trajectory and miracle on the hudson and there was a different thing the pilot his to encounter. >> that being said, both sully and giles had the airplane under control when they landed on the hudson. by all sights on the video the plane was under control when it touched down. it touched far down the runway and that airplane would float at the speeds that they probably

have been flying with the flaps and the configuration that they were, and that's why it continued to that barrier and we had that awful ending to that story. >> yeah. it's -- it is heartbreaking, tragic, to say the least. to your point, les, it is head scratching and there will be a lot of investigation into this one. les, thank you so much for your insights. appreciate you. promises, promises. by one count, donald trump has made 59 of them for what he'll get done for his first day in office. how many of these will happen ahead. of these will happen ahead. n i talk to? can this be treated? stop typing. start talking to a specialized urologist. because it could be peyronie's disease, or pd. it's a medical condition where there is a curve in the erection, caused by a formation of scar tissue. and an estimated 1 in 10 men may have it. but pd can be treated even without surgery. say goodbye to searching online. find a specialized urologist who can diagnose pd and build a treatment plan with you.

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a new report this week on the incoming trump administration and a slew of promises made by the president-elect that could challenge the promises kept promises kept themes. joining me is maya ward. >> maya, we have axios that reported to recently as december 6th. donald trump has made 51 day one promises. topping the list is settling the russia-ukraine war, closing the border and begin the largest deportation operation. how much of trump's agenda can actually be accomplished on the first day? >> yeah. i mean, look, he's promised action on, you know, dozen of policy fronts either on his first day or first week whether

that be on trade, health care, immigration. we'll see a lot of steps taken that first day. definitely that first week to get the ball rolling on a number of these agenda items. we know that his team wants to hit as many of those trump promises that we heard on the employ campaign trail as possible, but i do think that immigration in particular is a good example of, you know, just how difficult the road is going to be ahead. we've reported that trump's team is crafting an executive order on birthright citizenship to end it, and we know with that is going to come legal challenges. the idea that it's going to ultimately be the supreme court that's going to decide this question. mass deportations, another one you just mentioned. this is something we heard talk about time and time again and it will be a day one priority and it takes coordination across the state, funding, resources, personnel so he's going to make a ton of moves on day one, but it's really just the beginning

of the work that we'll have to see in the first 100 days and beyond. >> in fact, relative to immigration there has been something of a maga war civil war over the past week over the issuing of h-1b visas to skilled foreign workers and yesterday president-elect trump came in favor with the visas siding with elon musk and steve bannon as well as much of the maga base. trump also bragged that he embraced foreigners at many of his properties. is this an early test of which faction holds sway in trump's orbit and billionaires and far-right culture warriors last? >> i will say i did not have an h-1b debate on my bingo card for the holiday, but it is a great look at how there are real, philosophical divides not only within the republican party, but also within trump world over how to approach immigration and this h-1b visa issue has lay bare

some of the interesting fault lines between the different ideas they hold dear. they want the u.s. to be the best, to have the brightest minds and they kind of believe in this meritocracy, capitalistic vision of the united states, but at the same time they don't want to have too many immigrants coming into the u.s. they don't like the idea of immigrants taking american jobs. the h-1b visa issue has been one for a long time. i covered h-1b visa policy in the first trump administration and these debates were alive and well then, as well. there are people who believe that it is important to put tech, business and entrepreneurship to ensure we're getting the best and brightest, but there are others who have pointed out that there are real abuses of the system. so this is just one area where we're seeing clashes over the specifics of immigration policy and we'll see that more when it comes to border policy and asylum policy when you get into the nitty-gritty of trump's

issue, it can get complicated. >> maya, on christmas day trump made a series of posts suggesting it should take control of greenland, canada and the panama can ale. what is the strategy here, a loud bark, but don't bite? >> i mean, i was talking to some republicans about this and the main takeaway is that donald trump is back and so is his foreign policy style. we saw in the first time he can be confusing, free wheeling, you know, a bit unpredictable, and he will announce things and make these proclamations on social media. >> and we saw it with allies and adversaries and we also saw this at other times throw his administration into chaos with just a tweet and this has pros and cons and republicans really see this as saber rattling to pressure other countries to get what he wants.

i would say talking with the transition team about this it was interesting because it does seem like the canada commentary really falls on the trolling category, the stuff about trudeau as governor of canada and the memes he's been posting. >> yeah. >> and the spokesperson said, look, he's gotten some of what he wants out of canada. this commitment to securing the northern border, to cracking down on drug smuggling, but then when it comes to greenland and the panama capital, this official didn't deny that trump was serious about this saying that he wants to curb russian aggression when it comes to greenland and the same for china. he's been making claims that the u.s. is being ripped off by the panama canal and china, the second largest user is gaining influence over the waterway. so we'll have to see if this is something that he actually clings on to, but there was a notable difference in how his transition team talked about canada. >> interesting observation.

>> tef, to you, the slimmest majority is expected to vote on whether mike johnson will continue as speaker. one, what are the maga working to oust johnson and it took 22 days to find a new speaker, if it takes that long now it pushes voting past re-election day. is that a realistic concern? could it happen? >> anything can happen, specially when you look at the margins that you laid out. we are looking at historic margins in the house and we have seen a very empowered group of conservatives in the house that are very unhappy with the way mike johnson has handled the past year who has not followed through on policy for them. i think the question is is there really someone else that could step up in his place and get the votes and move this along

quickly? one big factor is whether trump weighs in. he has been a big reason why mike johnson has kept his job thus far. he's been in mike johnson's corner over and over again. we also know that trump is not thrilled with the fact that the debt ceiling was not dealt with in this last round of negotiations over government spending. so whether trump weighs in to save johnson or whether trump weighs in and says i've had enough. i don't want this to drag on. let's move on to someone else could be a real deciding factor here. >> 100%. maya, stef, good to see you both. thank you both so much and happy new year to you. >> first he was for it and now he's against it and asking the supreme court to hit the pause button. what to make on where donald trump stands on tiktok next peculiar.ar

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. a new washington post report raises once again the question of president joe biden regretting his choice of per merrick garland as attorney general and prosecuting hunter biden. post quoting people familiar with his comments. nbc news has not independently confirmed this new report. joining me now is harry littman, former assistant attorney general and now legal commentator and host of the talking feds podcast. my friend, you've worked at the highest levels of doj, how does this reporting hit for you? are these fairgrounds for regret or complaint on the president's part?

>> you know, if you read the whole article, alex, it's obviously that he's being contemplative about a whole range of things. he's someone who will be leaving office with a low approval rating and having been seen as not having the right goods for the election, and probably history will treat him more kindly. as for garland in particular, to me it's always seemed kind of a bum rap. there's no scenario where the cases would have been completed by now, and therefore trump would have been able to scuttle them no matter what. what they're saying is perhaps there would have been a trial that might have mattered to the american people. of course, was there a trial in new york. he was convicted there, and it didn't seem to change things fundamentally. more importantly, was there indication that garland has done more than people give him credit

for. so i don't discount that it's one of the things that biden is now thinking about as he is planning to leave office, but it seems to me not a solid criticism, and i wouldn't be surprised if it's a little bit overplayed in the post report. >> okay. let's turn together to a new report from nbc. the attorney general of connecticut, william tong says he will be the first to sue trump's plan to end birthright citizenship as the first of his family born on u.s. soil. he went from working side by side in his parents' restaurant to being attorney general. is it more than he can chew on this issue? >> i don't think he can get there. the 14th amendment says all persons born in the united states are citizens. there is a clause that says subject to the jurisdiction thereof, and the very, i would say tenuous argument on the right is, if you are children of

people who are here illegally you are not subject to the yours jurisdiction, and that's nonsense and you would aren't be subject to taxes and charged with crimes that people here are subject to the jurisdiction. so that's going to be the argument, but i don't think it's going to fly. >> okay. last question, trump is also now asking the supreme court to hit pause on the tiktok ban that starts in january 19th. analysts are saying, harry that trump's flip-flop may be related to the influence of the billionaire donor and part owner of bytedance and trump's reluctance to give up access to his followers on the app, but will the supreme court allow trump to interject himself to the law passed by congress a month ago? >> i can't see how they can, and the brief, alex, it's not just sort of odd.

it's it's imbecilic, and the solicitor general of the united states comes out of the box losing credibility with the justices, i think, is trump saying, this is a quote, with his expertise can fix on this and put everything on hold. a supreme court can't put things on hold. congress says it goes into effect january 19th, if there's a legal infirmity, okay, but there's no provision where the supreme court says the great and powerful donald trump will fix everything, so we'll just counteract what congress says and not let it happen. >>