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>> good afternoon, here in washington, d.c., it is 3:00 p.m. in new orleans, louisiana, closing in on 12 hours since a man drove a pickup truck at high speeds into a crowd celebrating the new year just
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after 3:00 a.m., 10 people have died, and a senior law enforcement official says that number might be as high as 15 people have died. dozens more have been injured including two police officers, after the suspect crashed, he exited his vehicle and opened fire, the suspect was ultimately killed in a shootout with police. officials say that driver had an isis flag on the back of his truck, which you can see in this photo. the fbi is currently investigating whether the suspect had any ties or associations with the terrorist group, officials found additional weapons and explosive devices inside the church -- inside the truck. the fbi has identified the suspect, a 42-year-old american citizen originally from texas, the fbi says he is a military veteran and they believe he was discharged honorably, officials
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are saying they do not believe the suspect acted alone. >> we are aggressively running down all the leads to identify the possible subjects associates, we are making sure there is no further threat, we do not believe that he was solely responsible, we are running down every lead. >> bourbon street remains closed at this hour, it is an active crime scene, new orleans police say the officers have scoured every single street in the french quarter looking for any suspicious packages and the bomb dogs were also dispatched to search the superdome just down the street from where the attack took place, the sugar bowl college football game which was scheduled to take place this evening has been rescheduled for tomorrow. under scrutiny at this hour is the security system that was placed around bourbon street last night, the city has been in the process of replacing barriers in high-traffic areas around the french quarter,
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those barriers are known as bullard's and officials try locking those areas instead with police cars and officers but the attacker was able to drive around them. >> we have been aware of the situation for a long time and we did indeed harden those target areas where the ballers are, we had patrol cars out there, as well as barriers. this particular terrorist drove around onto the sidewalk and got around the hard target where he did have a car, we had barriers and officers there and they still got around. so we did indeed have a plan but the terrorist defeated it. >> we are going to go to jesse kirsch who is on the scene in new orleans, you heard that quote from the police chief, we did have a plan but the terrorist defeated it, what are
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people saying to you and how worried are they about their security in the city over the next couple days? >> reporter: yes, and what stuck out to me at the press conference is when we learned about the plan, the question is was that enough, clearly it wasn't enough to stop this from happening but there's also the question of if more should have been done just based on broad expectation of possible threats. we will get to that, but i want to tell you something that our producer just passed along to me, the fbi is telling us that they are on the scene of a houston texas neighborhood in conjunction with the investigation into what has unfolded here in new orleans, they are not elaborating much beyond that but we do know the fbi is actively on the scene of a houston neighborhood that just came from the federal bureau of investigation and what we know from the fbi is they have found at least two improvised explosive devices and render them safe. we also know that they do not
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think the suspect acted alone, so at this point, the question would be, are they looking for someone or something in houston right now but we do kn, this is be hosting the sugar bowl, it y see right here, we have metal barriers and behind me, often a distance, you can see some of those more hardened barriers that you often see to help protect from vehicle ramming situations which like the one that unfolded overnight here. but what i can tell you is that -- and this is of course the approach to the superdome and as people get ready to go through the security gate, you can see the extensions over there, those stanchions were
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not in place on the sidewalks on bourbon street, and that is not something they had accounted for and believe that they needed and that sticks out to me because if you go to many major cities in this country, thinking about my time in cities like new york or chicago you are on the sidewalks of the city, especially a notable location, somewhere like bourbon street which is going to have a lot of people visiting, it is not uncommon to see some kind of barrier to help protect people who are on foot and the fact that they felt the need to have protective barriers along the roadway of bourbon street but not on the sidewalk raises more questions and officials acknowledged at this press conference that there may be deficiencies that need to be improved upon and reviewed but they have also promised safety moving forward and promised they are going to have a safe sugar bowl tomorrow night and as officials were leaving, i shouted the question, what
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gives them the confidence they can host a game safely and the governor said simply because he will be there himself. we don't have a lot of clarity on what authorities are doing to further the security situation but i can also tell you, i spoke with an elected official, a member of city council a short time ago and she told me that there are so many resources that have been flooded into this area to help ensure they can have safety. and as you can imagine, this is not just a local investigation, we know the fbi is taking charge. a lot of questions still unanswered, a lot of potential changes here and picture, beyond the next 24 to 48 hours, they are supposed to host the super bowl here in less than two months and that is an event that always has a lot of security around it and the focus, the attention on the city because of that is higher profile now because of what is unfolded in the last 24 hours. >> officials at that press
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conference said they wanted to be safe, that is why they were pushing the game back 24 hours which is pretty unprecedented, the last time they did that was during hurricane katrina but our folks comfortable with that 24 hours, do they think that is enough time given what just happened to secure that area? but, has the perimeter been pushed out? are you seeing beeker -- bigger vehicles, any sums that they are beating up security? >> reporter: no, we have been here since about 10:30 local time, about 11:30 eastern this morning, and what would you -- what you see on this street has stayed the same as i can tell, the number of police vehicles hasn't varied that much and the barriers hasn't varied that much either. but i can tell you, what i see from this street corner, there's not much of a change to that perspective. i spoke with fans a short time ago, they said they went home
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shortly before midnight so they were back at their hotel well before this unfolded but they woke up to several missed calls and that is when they started to realize what unfolded here. they said they were planning to go to the game before the postponement and they are planning to go tomorrow night. so that is just a small sampling from a couple of fans i spoke with that i flew in from atlanta, georgia this morning, plenty of bulldog fans on that plane as well and this was hours after it happened, after we knew that people had been killed and certainly, still a jovial atmosphere on the plane and people planning to go to the football game. i think people are still expecting to be going until this was postponed. i can't say for certain what every fan is feeling but i know at least some were intending to go and are intending to go tomorrow night. >> i can only imagine how relieved those loved ones where when they finally got them on the phone, thank you so much. the senior vice president for
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global operations spent two decades leading investigations for the fbi, chris, i want to turn to you, we have been talking about resources, what kinds of things does new orleans mean, what kind of agencies will be flooding into that area to help assist with what seems like it's going to be a massive investigation operation? >> thankfully what the field office has is a joint system workforce, and it was set up in 1980, in new york, 10 nypd officers partnered with 10 fbi agents, but it matured over time, after september 11th, one of the things that the commission found out was that most field offices didn't have it, so it required every field office to have one. that brings together the interagency, so it is fbi led but it has all the federal, state, and local partners all working together already.
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but unfortunately new orleans is a relatively moderate sized field office, so this is going to be a protracted investigation, it is a crisis, people will get burned out, so they are being sent resources from quantico, the explosives unit, the laboratory division, the response unit, so collecting evidence, for the explosives component but also from the counterterrorism division, analysts and agents from the characters in the unit i used to lead, they will deploy down there and augment what is already on ground. they will also reach out to field offices in the area and surge additional personnel there. but what you also need is the right personnel, you need counterterrorism experts, you can't just be having bodies, you need the right people at the right time. and the last thing i will say, it is likely the fbi rescue team that will be mobilized if there's under -- other
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individuals that will be apprehended because they will go in with a high level of expertise for a technical mission. >> stay with us, we want to go to justice and intelligence corresponded, den delaney, what are the big questions and what is really unanswered about this investigation? >> i'm going to tell you something based on the reporting, that i am i colleagues have been doing in the last 30 minutes or so, on this question of other suspects, are there identified other co-conspirators? that was the impression you got from listening to the press conference where officials said they were going after bad people and the assistant in charge from the fbi opened the news conference by saying we don't believe they acted alone, our understanding is they have not identified other co- conspirators and they are examining and investigating
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whether there is video evidence that shows other people planting the bomb, two that were found in the city of new orleans to those people may have been bystanders, it is not clear at all, so i think we need to pump the brakes on this idea, it is an open question, as we are reporting at this hour. but they have not determined completely that they were co- conspirators. clearly, even the possibility that there were, and let them to postpone the sugar bowl which is a huge deal for them to do, tens of thousands of people gathering in new orleans for this major football game, they postponed it about 24 hours ahead out of abundance of caution but it is up in the air right now, despite what was said at that news conference, this reflects the chaotic nature of the situation, the fast pace of the investigation,
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the desire to get information out to the public, it also explains why there was circumspect earlier, about saying there were other people but not prre clarity, it is unclear what exactly they believe about this but what we can say is they are investigating the possibility but not have fully concluded that there were co-conspirators here. >> it is interesting given the remarks coming from officials in the press conference, they were pursuing potential associates, asking the public for help but, an associate can mean many things, and it doesn't necessarily mean somebody on the ground in new orleans, it could also be somebody they are communicating with overseas, somebody i talked to on facebook, somebody they have taken inspiration from, is that under the umbrella of possible associates? >> that is a great point and that would be true in any potential terrorist attack, even the many lone wolf attacks we have seen over the years in the united states, they
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generally find that people who commit ices inspired attacks were communicating online with fellow sympathizers, maybe had indirect help, in this case, for example, this person rented this truck from somebody who was unwitting, that is not a co- conspirator in any sense of the word but he was involved in providing this person the vehicle, he didn't know what was going to happen with it. they are running down any potential lead like that, but that is an entirely different matter from active co- conspirators, they were looking for bad people which is the message they provided at that news conference and it appears that is unclear at this hour whether that is really the case. >> chris, we were talking earlier about the state of isis, al qaeda as a global jihadist movement and talking about individuals they are speaking to directly or just
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taking direction. are those organizations weekend or stronger and how much impact can they have on somebody who might be inspired to take this action question mark >> great question and it'll surprise most people to learn that al qaeda and isis are stronger now than they have ever been through their affiliates around the world, so to give people a reference point, al qaeda was roughly less than 500 members before september 11th, mostly relegated to afghanistan. al qaeda and isis grew out of each other and they are affiliates that are globally dispersed around two dozen countries around the world, so to think that terrorism is behind us is really naove and unfortunately the u.s. government has pivoted a lot of its attention and resources and authorities away from it. if we continue to bury our heads in the sand and hope the
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bogeyman is going away, these are things that will start happening again. we were told it was a generational fight, we have to commit ourselves to that number one, and number two, there is a great saying that you have the watches and we have the time. people committed to this extremist ideology, they are not a flash, they are intending to come down on us. >> we have new information about the suspect and his military record and we will bring that to you after a short break, our coverage continues right after this. after this
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>> we are back with breaking news coverage of that deadly attack in new orleans that occurred early this morning, officials revealed key details in a press conference this afternoon about the investigation into the suspect who allegedly plowed a pickup truck through crowds on bourbon street, they do not believe the suspect, a 42-year-old citizen from texas acted alone and he had an asus flag attached to his truck. according to three u.s. defense officials, suspect shamsud-din jabbar served in the army on active duty from 2006 through 2015 and in the army reserves between 2015 to 2020, he was a staff sergeant until he was
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honorably discharged, he was an administrative clerk, separately he tries to enlist in the navy in 2004 never shipped out or began training, this comes from a navy spokesperson by way of nbc news pentagon correspondent, our records show that shamsud-din jabbar enlisted on august 12th, 2004 in navy recruiting district houston and was discharged from the delayed entry program one month. later on september 13th, 2004 he did not go to recruit training command, he did not serve in the navy, there is no additional information to add to the attached biography. with all that in mind, we want to bring in nbc news senior national security analyst and former fbi assistant director for counterintelligence, frank, what are the signs that the fbi seems to suggest that this driver had some sort of help or associates that could have aided in this attack?
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>> well, you are asking a great question that many of us are asking as well and this is coming from the press conference where the assistant special agent in charge said, we are looking at a range of associates, we don't believe he was solely responsible. we don't know much more, was is something they saw on security video coverage? did somebody else help with this, in terms of maybe planting the ied or is that mistaken question mark in the previous segment, we saw one of the independent investigative reporters, ken dilanian really digging into what that means and whether or not the mere fact that they were suspicious packages, people thought to be associated with suspicious packages is leading to this conclusion that there's more people involved. we don't know, it could be toxic information from the intelligence community, it could be that there is something in the fbi files that
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indicates this but whatever it is, it is enough to have postponed the sugar bowl tonight. and that is significant, the fact that there could be operatives associates, even loosely involved is enough to say look, we still have some danger, some risk out there and i would think that the next public statement from the fbi should really move to clarify this, they don't have to tell us classified intelligence, but they should be able to say with clarity, we are not certain about the risk to the public and here is why and we should be able to know that. >> especially since right out of the gate at the press conference, that is one of the first things the agent said, we do not believe this individual acted alone, but nbc saying it is unclear if he has any associates and that is under investigation. i also want to ask you, we are hearing about this individual's military record. we have been talking a lot today about how they might have learned to make the pipe bomb,
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and come up with this plan, what does the fact that this person has a extended military service record tell you about how well they would be able to execute an attack like this? >> i know that his military record said he was 42 alpha, that is human resources, that is an admin clerk is what i'm told, his particular role was. yes he allegedly deployed to afghanistan but to think that he was in a combat role or had any ied or explosives training would be quite a stretch for someone who is a 42 alpha human resources specialist. >> we will have to see as more details emerge, i also want to ask, they said bourbon street which is one of the most famous areas of new orleans, the whole thing is a crime scene. how do police, the fbi and other agencies go about searching, addressing, and even
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clearing a site that is this large in the middle of a highly populated area in a city that is not only having a large event tomorrow but will have mardi gras and the super bowl in the next couple months? >> they do that job with two things, resources and time and they will take as long as it needs without feeling pressure, that we want you to reopen bourbon street, they will try to move quickly but they will not be pressured. it is a grid fashion when you have an entire street like this, you will map out a grid and use resources to literally walk through the streets, looking for and photographing every inch of that street, so that you've got the image and you can say the literal agent or technician who was responsible for that particular footage on that particular street, it will be done methodically and you will be able to see, when it is all said and done, they will put
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together a computer assisted graphic video of when the suspect moved into the area, who got hit when, all of that overlaid with security camera footage, police body camera footage, all the businesses having their coverage, and you have a complete re-enactment of what happened graphically. >> chris, you spent more than two decades working in counterterrorism and one of the reasons officials are likely canceling or delaying this football game for tomorrow is they are worried about copycat attacks, they are worried about somebody eating inspiration from it, are there other ways that people can get radicalized, can get inspired? even sometimes our own news coverage can give people ideas but to do global events play into that as well? >> certainly, number one, the internet has made the gateway into joining these groups much more accessible, historically
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speaking, you had to get recruited into an organization and really pass some tests over sometime. the internet has changed all of that, that is one of the reasons both al qaeda originally put out the inspire magazine and isis followed in suit, trying to connect to people and putting it out in the english language, but also successful attacks like this inspire people, i can do that, too. it shows that conducting an attack and lashing out is accessible to people, even average individuals. but there's other global events, you look at what is going on in the middle east, where it is rapidly evolving but even october 7th, unfortunately it demonstrates that terrorism as an asymmetric tactic works, the palestinian cause which was al
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qaeda, they have conveniently used that to inspire some other folks to reach out and attack globally. >> let's stop right there for a minute because we have brand- new information on the investigation and we are joined by nbc news national law enforcement and intelligence respondent, tom winter, what do you know? >> some information from my colleagues, it is a team operation, when we see these incidents come up, but as far as this idea of other individuals in new orleans, forcing law enforcement officials saying as to whether or not the fbi is involved in placing these two possible ied
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that were found not in the suspects vehicle we were looking at, but in other locations near where this incident occurred, and one of the things they are trying to do is go from business to business and we saw this in the luigi mangione investigation for example, you can imagine there's a ton of cameras on bourbon street, some of them are public but, going from business to business and determine these two other potential devices that they have found, where are they specifically and did anybody actually placed them there? that is something they will take a look at. so far what they have told us, they have seen people near these possible ied's but they don't know whether they are looking at them and maybe they look suspicious, or they involved in the placing of these, and that is one of the
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things investors are looking at. the press conference earlier today, they said shamsud-din jabbar did not act alone, there's not a specific manhunt for john doe number one, john doe number two, they are not looking for a specific person at this point, that of course could change, by the way, it could also change as we go back to a posture of this individual who was behind the wheel of the truck acting alone as well in all of this. it just depends on what information they derive the forensics from the potential improvised explosives and of course what more video and investigator work occurs. obviously that is the reason the fbi is asking, can we get some help, if you have seen this individual, what has been going on and that can help with the investigation, that is what they were saying at the press conference. but we want to be clear, reporting here with my colleagues, just to give people
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a sense of this idea of other people they are looking at, other than jabbar, that is the idea behind it. there are two possible i.d.s near this incident and they are trying to figure out whether or not there were other individuals involved that placed them there, they see some people on the video but it is not entirely clear if those individuals were involved. it is all part of this ongoing investigation, you have been looking at the video from houston, texas where jabbar is from and obviously there's going to be an investigative component that involves that city, we know what was going on in new orleans, so this is something that is going to take some time. obviously if this shifts back to jabbar acting alone, or if they are looking for specific individuals, we will bring that to you. but that is the latest information we have from everybody we have spoken to
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from senior law enforcement officials, that is the latest on that particular investigation. >> thank you for that reporting. frank, what is your reaction to that, it seems like this is an open question as to whether or not this attacker did have associates and how do you go about distinguishing between video of someone passing by where a suspected device might be and somebody placing it, especially in a busy crowd like on bourbon street last night? >> it is going to take careful review, as well as witness statements, and you have to look at this from various angles, when you've got different businesses with different security views. really important. i have been involved in cases like this and as they break really fast, you get inundated, like drinking from a fire hose with regard to hey, we saw a woman putting this package down, the other thing people need to understand, many police
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departments have a protocol, when you've got something going down like this, if there is a suspicious package and we are in doubt, we are going to detonate it, we are going to do a controlled maneuver. and this happens more than you realize. so it could be that all of these reports, we have rendered this or that safe, somebodies pastry from a cafe, you don't know what exactly happened on the street and it is going to be a while before we sort this out. >> and chris, let's follow up on that, they said they had what they believed were potentially explosive devices but it sounds like they could have been in an over abundance of caution, how do you determine if you have already rendered something with her or not it was a threat? >> normally they will either place a limited explosive charge or water cannon to disrupt that device but still,
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do it in a way that you can collect those components. it renders it safe but you can collect the components so you can exploit them and find out if there's prince on them or where the explosive material was from, how the device was composed which will give you leads. but you don't want to destroy everything. but as frank was alluding to, is somebodies lunch that they threw away or something that looks suspicious. here, it sounds more likely than not that they could have been ied's. >> frank figliuzzi, thank you for joining us. ahead, we will have reaction from new orleans and talk with the former mayor of the city, that is coming up after a short break. our coverage continues after this. after this
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>> we are continuing to learn harrowing details of wednesday morning's attack in new orleans where a man rammed his pickup truck through a crowd of people gathered for new year's celebrations, this is how one eyewitness described the scene to reporters. the details are graphic. >> he was coming up on the sidewalk and all of that, but once we got inside the divot and the car passed us, i turned
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around to look, because it was supposed to be three of us, so i turned around and i don't see my friend. and i just start screaming and yelling, where are you? and i turned and i looked in the street and i heard, his right leg was flipped, like a horror movie style over his back and there was just blood. >> we have the editor in chief of the independent nonprofit news organization, greg, i want to ask you, when you hear his description of the horror he went through, you know there have to be dozens more individuals with similar counts of last night, how important are these eyewitness statements going to be in understanding what happened? >> i think they are going to be key to giving investigators an
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idea of how all of this unfolded, and i think, this is the type of detail, there's proof that others were involved in orchestrating this, certainly survivor stories, eyewitness stories are going to be instrumental here, as tough as they are to hear right now. >> what are you hearing from local law enforcement, we heard a lot about the fbi and other giant government agencies coming to assist, but what is local law enforcement doing and how do they feel about what happened last night, do they feel like that barrier that should have been there and maybe wasn't, that that was failing on their part? >> city leaders are taking ownership of that, realizing that would have prevented this, back when this was installed, not just on bourbon street but on streets that feed into it, these were installed december
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2017 and were being replaced with replacements set to go online just before the super bowl here in february. something interesting that we learned from our state attorney general, she shared with this here, one of the improvised explosive devices they found between a state police unit and a wildlife and fisheries unit, those officers are supplementing and do supplement police protection during major events like new year's eve and the sugar bowl, and it is leading authorities to believe that law enforcement was also targeted in this, just based on initial feedback. >> you have lived and worked in new orleans for a long time, how are people feeling, is this
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a seminal moment for the city, are people feeling unsafe or are people being resolute and planning to move on as much as they can? >> i think it is a combination of the two but with emphasis on the former. we have come back from hurricanes, the oil spill, but this is that bracing event, that you realize this just isn't something that happens in new york, this certainly puts us on that unfortunate map of places where apparently terror is reached out and struck in one of our signature thoroughfares, it is packed there every new year's eve, and throw on top of that the crowds in town for the sugar will, experts would say that we are a target that was exploited at this point in time. >> greg larose, thank you for
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joining us. we want to turn over to the former mayor of new orleans and the president of the national urban league, what is your reaction to the fact that the fbi said they don't believe the suspect was solely responsible for the attack and reporting from nbc news has said that may not be clear whether or not there are people on the ground, there seems to be a lot of uncertainty still in this investigation. >> this is why we need to not jump to immediate conclusions and allow this investigation to continue, in the case of luigi mangione, enforcement had a sense of who he was fairly soon after the incident occurred but wanted to make sure they apprehended him and not tip their hat prematurely, and the same thing in this case, there are pieces of evidence out there that were reported on your channel and on other channels that several other people were seen planting
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suspicious packages and devices around the french quarter at about the same time that this heinous act took place on bourbon street, so this has to ripen if you will and i think we have to get law enforcement an opportunity to thoroughly investigate and work to apprehend the spokes and not prematurely come to judgment as to how much they know. >> you've got this big notre dame georgia game, the sugar bowl has been delayed 24 hours, that is the first time that has happened since hurricane katrina, do you have confidence that the city can secure not only that event by pushing it back 24 hours but other high- profile events new orleans is known for? >> i don't think very many cities have endured what new orleans has endured, not only hurricane katrina but multiple hurricanes and floods and rain
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events and economic calamity, it is tough, it is resilient, it has bounced back, it is a 300-year-old great american city. i believe that the mayor and the leadership of the city will do what is necessary, now that federal law enforcement is involved to ensure that those who visit our city -- but let's understand this, they visit 365 days per year, not only for the sugar bowl or new year's eve, but we've got the super bowl, we've got mardi gras, the french quarter fest, jazz fest, major events taking place in the city. so i think the assessment of the security situation and the real question is what new protocols they need to put in
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place, one they have to consider, bar closing time for alcoholic beverages, that has been a no-no in new orleans because of the reputation, we party until the sun comes up. but, sometimes it will wear and tear on law enforcement resources to be able to buy that security throughout the early hours of the morning. so, some protocols have to be put in place, some reassessment of the security situation i think will have to be augmented but once again, this is important, this could happen in any major city. we are already witnessing another incident, and the question is, is this an orchestrated effort to create disruptive terrorist activities in america in 2025?
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so, all americans, not just new orleans, all across elected law enforcement and citizens should be concerned and our leaders owe us the appropriate response. >> thank you for joining us. and as you heard marc just talk about, the attack follows a disturbing pattern of attacks from around the world, more on that after a short break. our continuing coverage after this. after this we wouldn't be where we are without saint jude. and in turn, we wouldn't be where we are without those people that have donated.
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germany, where on december 20th, a 50-year-old doctor from saudi arabia plowed a car into a busy christmas market killing five and injuring more than 200. i want to ask, why are these attacks so common, are they becoming more common and what can people do to protect against them? >> absolutely, these are becoming more common because the attacks are frankly easier to carry out, if you are looking at this from a lens of an extremist and trying to impact mass casualties and wreak terror, then you are looking to do something that is relatively easy accessible and hard to track down. in fact, isis in the last 10 years has been telling its
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network and has been on the record, advising its soldiers to use car ramblings and vehicles as a preferred method of attack which is different than what we recall from the 70s and 80s when airline hijackings were what people were really worried about. >> but it seems like these can be almost harder to guard against because anywhere you have a public gathering, most places you have to get there, they are accessible to some sort of a street so in d.c. when you have big events, they use dump trucks and buses to block it off but as law enforcement or government official, how do you balance the need of people to live their lives and be able to go to events and celebrate and protecting them from risks like this? >> it is a tough balance in the wake of 9/11, we haven't quite figured out what that balance looks like, immediately after 9/11, we had two or three years of constantly hearing that the country was under yellow or orange alert, and that didn't
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help. but we also had tsa, and increased airport screenings, so much of what is security is the presentation of it, the warning that somebody is looking and watching out, so that prevents a lot of low hanging fruit and the more obvious folks from using that avenue whether it be an airplane or somewhere else to use that as an attack. however, in a part of the terror challenge, to have people be scared, to change the way that we function as a society, so who wins if every part of our public life has a security system or security screening before you go to a movie theater or a mall and i will say, there are countries that have made this choice and that is part of how some people like in israel live their daily lives. >> nayyera haq, thank you for
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