. so, james carville started the year with telling us what he got wrong. the question tonight is what did you get wrong last year? what did you learn from over the year or if you prefer what did you see other people get wrong? you can tell me@arimelber.com. you see all of the platforms. just put in my name and send me a message or post me a comment to tell me that. read and respond to a lot of the comments on my free news letter, i email it to people who request it. so, what did you learn last year? what were you wrong about in that is the question inspired by james carville. thanks for spending time with us the riedout starts "the

reidout" starts now. tonight on "the reidout." >> we will fight hard to make sure that no one in this town takes away social security or medicare from the american people. not now, not ever, no means never. >> we will drastically cutback the size and scope of government. we are going to return the power back to the people. >> two very different visions for america. as mike johnson barely survives the vote to maintain his position as speaker of the house. also tonight, two deadly incidents on new year's day involving active duty and retired military. is it time to have a very serious national conversation about the mental health of our men and women in uniform? we begin tonight with breaking news.

making public the decision to uphold sentencing for donald trump's conviction back in may on 34 counts of falsifying business records in the new york hush money case in which trump paid off porn star actress stormy daniels to keep information about their affair, which he continues to deny, out of the public eye before the 2016 election. the decision is another historic first for trump. the judge ordered trump to appear for sentencing on january 10th, next friday. just 10 days before chief justice john roberts will swear him in as president. once he is sentenced trump will officially be a convicted felon. let that sink in for a minute. not only will he be a convicted felon, but he will also be the first president in american history to be a convicted felon. something trump has worked to avoid. this will join a litany of

stains he can not expong from his record. from being the first president to be impeached twice, the first president to be accused of inciting a resurrection and found liable of sexual abuse by members of his peers, in his decision, the judge acknowledged each point by point each of the arguments as to why the case should, in their view, be dismissed. key among them the claim as president-elect trump was afforded the same immunity as sitting presidents. judge merchan writes, binding precedent does not provide that an individual upon becoming

president can retroactively dismiss or vacate nor does it blanket president-elect immunity. he added to dismiss the indictment and set aside the jury verdict would not serve the concerns set forth by the supreme court in its handful of cases addressing presidential immunity. nor would it serve the rule of law. on the contrary, such decision would undermine the rule of law in unmeasurable ways. he closed by ordering the future president to appear virtually for his sentence on january 10th. where he could face a fine or probation. it was said that trump would fight it quote unquote hoaxes until they are all dead. joining me now is trial attorney and host of the katie

fang show here on msnbc and former republican congressman rigelman who served for the january 6th committee. thank you both for being here. katie my friend, i want to go to one of the parts of the decision that i found the most fascinating, the most interesting. judge merchan wrote a fascinating decision, talk to us about this apparently made up concept called presidential- elect immunity and how that got knocked down. >> yeah, donald trump was trying to abuse the horrible scotus opinion that came out that provided him with presidential immunity by trying to distort it to create a brand- new avenue of immunity called president-elect immunity. judge merchan made quick dispatch with the idea that

trump has this version of president-elect immunity. it also threads the needle carefully, i think, for appellate because it makes clear that the action of a president when they are not sitting in the oval office does not afford him immunity that covers the conduct that was criminal. this was the falsifying business records and it happened before trump went into the oval office. joy, even though this is a opinion as you note, and i give judge merchan his flowers when due. i am angry. anyone watching this is angry you are allowed to be angry. you are not angry at the judge. be anger and lay the blame at the feet of trump, the supreme court of the united states. the arc was justice has been crushed and flattened by the weight of the oval office, not

because of the dignity or integrity of the office but the deceit that trump made it back into that oval office. this is why people, angry by this outcome should say there is no true justice anymore because you and i both know go it was someone else, joy, this outcome would have been different. there would have been a sentence held in advance and had teeth to it. it is spitting in the face of jurors that sat for more than seven weeks, the original grand jurors that return an indictment, and then the jurors that sat seven weeks and listened to the evidence and rendered a verdict of guilty. >> indeed, you know, denver, i want to know why you are chuckling. we find them entertaining. but you know what i am angry at? i, i take everything that katie said i go back to garland. merrick garland, who the american people pay a substantial 6 figure salary to, to do justice on our behalf.

he sat on the trump crimes, alleged crimes when it came to a bigger case meaning the insurrection in which the january 6th committee for which you are an investigator gave him point by point to the prosecution. the impeachment proceedings, the road map, prosecution, impeached, again, for the insurrection. and yet garland could not see his way to doing justice for the american people. he decided to put a go between in the middle. jack smith. who actually did garland's job for him only to get thrown out in the case of the documents case because that judge used the sort of trickery.

accomplishing all of that. he has even tried to hold trump accountable. so, we are down to judge merchan to being the one and only hero here. i will let you talk now. >> reporter: no, no, i am sorry i chuckled katie, i wonder if you would represent me if i have former congressman immunity. that is what i laughed. something i can utilize. i get in trouble all of the time as you both know. here is where if me and you were sitting around drinking whiskey and i love talking to you both about this. i can not get over the fact that january 6th is not a bigger deal for the voting public, especially the popular vote when it came to the election. there are things that i never saw come out during the actual investigation. the 35 million lines of data and call records we sent to the archives, i never saw that evidence used. we encrypted it.

it was not accessed. i am wondering what the five million papers of call records we processed what happened to that. we saw it. the other thing, the impeachment, the second impeachment, we pro voided, i did, people can look it up, liz called me on january 6th, the morning of january 7th to look at the groups that were there. we identified seven white nationalist groups, the other thing layered underneath it, looking at the command and control architecture. i know it sounds fancy but it is just who the bad guys were in the communication line and leading the charge. but the second thing the people that were involved in january 6th and the amount of law enforcement, former military, but also white nationalist groups that were there. and i think to me my fear going forward is that if we only have one judge standing up right now and everybody else folded, not

aggressive enough going after the bad actors there, what do we do? as a normal american, i am, i am a normal guy. what do i do? i don't have former congressman immunity. i can't do things that happen and get away with it. you know, there might be 1200 people in jail that will get pardoned also but they had to pay a price. i guess, i guess if just a rational person you wonder maybe the law is not equally applied across everybody. i think that is the thing that bothers me. i still can not wrap my arms around the fact that the facts identified were not more of a factor in the election. it means a majority of americans did not care. that is a struggle for me in some respects. >> same here. that and americans letting a million people die of covid, the fact that most voters did not care about that, it blows my mind to this day. it is cited in this decision, katie, donald trump said as he

tried to say for the court to have credibility they needed to dismiss this case. but he says, wait a minute, despite defendants relenting attacks against the integrity and legitimacy of the progress, they witness the rule of law in the court refrained from commenting unless required. he talks about defendants destain for the third branch of government, state or federal in new york or elsewhere is a matter of public record. he goes into that. john roberts who represents this third branch of government went out of his way to look at the constitution make sure trump will get president will swear in his hand picked government. it looks like they took the knee. he just wanted trump back in. how does the american people respect any of this? only one judge who gives a damn

about the constitution and it is merchan, alone. >> that is why i say that the blame should lay squarely at the feet of the supreme court. i will single out the six justices responsible for it. end of the year analysis and report about the supreme court. the most outrageous thing listing sins that he thinks americans are committing against the supreme court. he includes the idea that we are not allowed to criticize the kingmakers are doing when they are sitting there in service to the american people but only to what seems to be one man. the problem that exists is you talk about covid and the millions of lives lost, you talk about january 6th and yet, think about how this case in new york talks about conduct that even pre-dated our

november 2016 election. that is a critical part was important. falsecasion business records. everybody nodes to remember, the intent behind falsifying the records was to hide manipulation of payments that were made so this man can make it back to the oval office, right? or make it to the oval office in the first place snow the first time >> yes. the original sin. >> the first time. it was about the original sin. getting him in the oval office in the first place. everything you talked about that i do not disagree that led up to january 6th and now there after, none of it would of happen if he did not make it in the oval office. now he uses that entry and bootstraps that supreme court decision of presidential immunity to now create this bubble of protection that now leads us to an unconditional discharge. no probation or incarceration.

>> debasing the precedency and the courts at the same time. i will give you the last quick word on this. your former colleagues in the republican party they declare themselves defended the person, liz cheney, along with the chair of the january 6th committee giving presidential medal. your thoughts on them? >> my gosh, not offensive. every person. here is the thing. i will end with this. i don't have a lot. but, you know, the cascading effects of the moral acts not fought by moral individuals can be crushing to that is what i

fear? >> i do wonder what it means for the future and we have two parties that can not do the right thing. i think we are broken right now. i wonder what will happen in the future. >> we are. >> are you running for governor of virginia my friend? >> i have a committee for statewide office. it is a committee because i have an ai company and stuff. i wonder if i can run as a real independent. is that even possible? so, i got a bunch of people thinking yeah, i am like i don't know. we will see. >> i think i will tell you what, i tell you what, poem are so sick of the system in this country and so demoralized by it in so many ways i think you have a good shot. you are an honest man and that is a wonderful thing. we love it, no matter what. >> we got your back, my friend. thank you very much. and do not forget to watch

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. do you need to consider if the current leadership is what we need. >> i remain undecided as a number of my colleagues. we saw so many of the failures >> i don't trust him that he is going to deliver. for the last year he has been a speaker every time he folded to the swamp. >> in the end, all of that sound and four i from the so- called real conservatives vowing to push pack against speaker mike johnson's bid to keep control of the gavel, as usual, signified nothing. more than empty chest pounding. you had 7 of these real republicans initially remaining silent when their names were called. only to go johnson's way when their names were called again at the end. it seems one of them, florida congressman waltz might not of heard his name called the first time around. there were three republicans

who initially cast votes against johnson. congressman thomas macey, norman and self. given their majority that was two more than he could afford to lose. perhaps that is why we saw johnson walk norman and self off of the floor. he would not make deals, no quid pro quo for him, he did a different route got trump on the phone. give being him just enough votes to remain speaker on a margin of votes over hakeen jeffries. trump had his own reasons to get involved. the house would not have been able to certify his election on the judicial day, january 6th. turns out the only republican to follow-through with his threat to vote against johnson was this guy. >> you can pull all of my fingernails out.

you can cut off my fingers i am not voting for mike johnson tomorrow. you can take that to the bank. >> no torture necessary. turns out all of the tough talk from the other republicans was just that. in the end they did what president elon told them to do. i am sorry, president-elect told them to do. it came after the initial role call when congressman, a nonvoting delegate from the house of the u.s. virgin island rose to make a point. >> i have a parliamentary inquiry. i note that the names of the representatives from the americas samoa, guam, northern mirana, puerto rico and virgin of columbia were not called. four million american -- virgin

island and the district of columbia were not called. four million americans [ cheers and applause ] >> they offer thursday >> delegates elect and the resident are not qualified to vote. >> wong. >> representative elect are the only individuals qualified to vote in the election of a speaker. as provided in section 36 of the house rules and manual. the speaker is elected by a majority of the members elect voting by sir name >> thank you mr. speaker. this body and this nation has a territories and a colonies problem. what was supposed to be temporary has now effectively become permanent. we must do something about this. >> i am joined by democratic congressman from the u.s. virgin islands. congresswoman i have to tell you, many of us rose to our feet when we heard that and you made that point. i think a lot of people forget

that some four million americans overwhelmingly americans of color, brown and black, vote from puerto rico to the islands including the 700,000 something residents of washington, d.c. our nation's capitol pay taxation without representation, they can not have their representative vote for speaker. why did you feel moved to make that point today? >> reporter: thank you very much for having me and amplifying this issue for us. you know, we can not sit idol. we can not be comfortable in the positions we are in. while i have a vote, full vote in committee i sit on the weighs and means committee. the most powerful committee in congress. i can vote when we are in a committee of the whole. the fact that i could not vote for speaker and my children were there with me, virgin islanders were watching me and not hearing my name. and i had gone the day before

to the election of jennifer gonzalez-galon, the new governor of puerto rico. to know that we are people who represent some, the largest black and per capita of veterans and still can not vote for our commander and chief and still not vote for speaker. we have to sit idol. i was sitting next to the son of jesse jackson. he gave me a piece of paper. i scribbled on the back of one. putting notes, i have been working on this for many, many years about self-determination, you know, joy, this has become a issue for people of the territories, once we became brown people from the territories. in our country so many states where at one point territories and eventually we are allowed state hood. but, in the cases that are called at the turn of the 20th

century, by the same justice that wrote ferguson he stated the people who live in the territories are savage aliens who can not understand principals of law. and therefore should not be given the full rights of american citizenship. now, mind you, we have signed ourselves up to be part of the draft, and in fact, the people of island that i live on that my family is from, st. criox sent a children alexander hamilton to actually write the constitution. and then to turn around and say we can not understand principals of rule of law. it is just absolutely racism. it has got to stop. >> yeah, i mean we learned, i think, a lot of people did not understand. people from puerto rico get asked for their passports, they are not, they can not vote for the president unless they come physically to the mainland.

it is treating the territories as colonies, i commend you for pointing it out. needs to be full franchisement. >> you can move to brussels, paris, move to the congo, and just get an absentee ballot and vote for president. if you joy reid or anyone else move to a u.s. territory and resides there, then you give up your right to vote for president. it has got to end. i want to thank hakeem jeffries. i told him i was going to do it and he said speak for your people. i want to thank my leader willing to do that and stand up for the rights of the four million people in the territories. >> indeed. i want to end this segment of hakeem jeffries other than your comments, after that, the other amazing comments came from him. let me play that really quick.

house democrats will fight hard to protect working class americans and the things that matter to them. not the wealthy, the well off and the well connected. keep your hands off social security and medicare. >> and with that, i will thank congresswoman from the u.s. virgin island, always representing, thank you, thank you, thank you good sister >> thank you very much, and happy new year. >> thank you. much appreciated. coming up, the latest on the investigations into the violent attacks in new orleans and vegas this week. and the fact that they were both carried out by people in or formally in our military. we will dive into that, next o. we will dive into that, next if you have heart failure or chronic kidney disease, farxiga can help you keep living life,

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. late today, the las vegas metro police department and the fbi shared more on the potential motive behind the cybertruck explosion outside of the trump hotel in vegas. for the fbi, the suspect believed to be army service member matthew livelsberger. it appears to be suicide.

he likely suffer friday ptsd and -- suffered from ptsd. in a letter he wrote fellow service members, veterans and all americans, time to wake up. we are being led by weak and feckless leader upon that only serve themselves. we are the united states of america. the best country ever to exist. right now we are terminally ill and headed towards collapse. the fbi also mentioned that their interviews indicate he had no animosity towards trump, in fact, his uncle in interviews said he was a quote rambo type who loved trump. though, apparently his ex-wife and recently estranged wife were of the opposite political views the case comes as a driver in the separate attack in new orleans was also identified as a military man. a u.s. army veteran from texas.

now, of course, these are just two cases involving military vets. this is in no way a brood brush about service members in general. according to a study of extremist mass violence, military service turns out to be the single strongest individual predictor of becoming a mass casualty offender. far out pacing mental health issues. joining me now is retired army major general senior advisory. major, let's talk about this. let's get into this. if you are talking about january 6th, a lot of oath keepers, many who were military, you go all of the way back to timothy mcveigh. it is not to say people in the military are not criminally minded but when they act according to the study because

they are trained with more lethal knowledge, they can create more damage, mass casualty violence what do you see and what do you think when you hear about two military veterans doing acts like what we saw in new orleans and las vegas? >> reporter: joy, thank you for having me on. i know it is a tough subject. as you would imagine we the veteran community are sensitive about appearing to be a group of people who are prone to do outrageous things. and the vast number of veterans are successful citizens, reintegrated into society. normally better than they were when they came into the military. and i absolutely believe that. i will also say that if you are exposed to the hardships that we, the nation imposed upon our

americans in uniform every one of us when exposed to great riggers will have it. we have damage seeing things or do things or understand things, that is, that is -- that is an individual expectation that we have. what we have just seen is, we have two individuals who have managed it with difficulty. >> yeah. >> and the thing is, we also have a responsibility as a society, too, our veterans, they don't get paid a lot of money to take the biggest sacrifices for the rest of us. their mental health is everybody's responsibility. there is reporting that both of these two men were at what used

to be called fort bragg but now fort liberty. there is a reporting. it is home to multiple special agents. their assignments did not overlap. but it is a troubled army base. they found that 109 soldiers assigned there died in 2020 and 2021. fewer than 20 were natural causes, the remainder unexplained, homicides, drug overdoses prevental. there are incidents of suicide among veterans you know, our public health system node -- needs to address. i say that because we have people talking openly about cutting government. one of the biggest cashes of money would be veterans benefit. there is a lot of concern, a lot of concern that veterans benefits will be on the table, veterans health care.

that is a concern. >> it is a justifiable concern. now, when you see physical damage when you see the physical wounds that have happened to our men and women that is a visible, understandable and treatable function. the unseen wounds that have happened to people who had to do things that humans really should never have to do but we ask our military to do that, those are wounds that we really, really need to pay attention to. and it is what we have seen unhappily with recent events. so, if you are talking about cutting money and back in 2023, the republicans in the house wanted to cut 22% out of the va budget. that $30 billion. those were medical costs that we pay to keep our guys, our

men and women successful in reintegrated into civil society. so, what we are talking about, this doge business that mr. trump and his colleagues, his oligarchs can not happen. we told our men and women in the military, they expect that they are going to be resupplied, going to be taken care of medically if they get hurt and we can not allow the republican party and that is the party we are talking about right now, it is not a bipartisan issue. we can not allow them to defeat the whole premise of serving in the united states military that we will take care of you if you

are hurt. and if you go through with the pointed end of the spear does, and live to tell the tale but damaged we must take care of you. >> amen. amen. retired army general, major general paul eton. we appreciate you. thank you for your service. we appreciate you being here. thank you. >> thank you. coming up, a major development with biden blocking the sale of u.s. steel to a japanese buyer. we will explain why it is important and get into the politics at play who trump who also opposes the sale takes office. that and more with the round table, coming up next more witd table, coming up next th its cue options chain, easy-to-use tools and paper trading to help sharpen your skills, you can stay on top of the market from wherever you are. e*trade from morgan stanley.

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political agenda. the acquisition has been a political issue especially ahead of the 2024 election t. is based in a swing state of pennsylvania. the steelworkers union opposed the takeover. in fact, president biden, vice president harris, and donald trump all said they were against it. but, domestic politics aside the decision could impact future foreign investments in american companies or potentially harm relations with japan. a key u.s. ally in the largest foreign investor. joining me now is political strategists and former advisory to the kamala harris campaign and author of the book "flip the tables." >> it is interesting to see trump and biden and kamala harris all on the same side. what are the political implications of opposing this deal might be? >> reporter: i mean i completely agree 100%.

this is the one thing that trump and president biden actually agree on. to the set up that you had around pennsylvania i think that the conversation here is centering the union workers, the fact that we want to keep jobs in the united states. now, in your set up and the articles reporting. it puts america in a tricky position when we are trying to build relationships with our foreign allies, what this does and the hand toss to the next administration will be interesting to see how president trump goes forward and what message that he actually has around it particularly when he does not have pro union policies. so the motive for his support is different than president biden. so, i actually am concerned what will happen to the workers at u.s. steel and then

therefore the implications in the pennsylvania economy. >> yeah, and matthew, one of the local unions inside of pittsburgh wanted the deal to go through, it means thousands of jobs. with trump, all transactional. sell tiktok, and then he is like i am popular in tiktok let's save it. and all of the countries doing that, they know that, nobody believes he is pro steelworker. >> yeah. i am of the machine, though, regardless of what trump's motivations are he ended up in the right place in my view. ended up in the place where we will protect the steel industry in america and the steel jobs, most of them are union jobs, just talked about in this. one of the last industries in america that is dominated by union workers with a high paying wage for all of those things. so, trump, i never trust any motivation of his. so, i assume every motivation that donald has is a bad one.

it is usually oriented towards self in this. he ended up in the right place even if the motivation is highly suspect. >> we are lucky that the nippon steel did not offer him $1 billion. that may be coming. >> yes. and well, he might use it to pay his legal bills, probably not he does not pay his lawyers. bad decisions, rudy giuliani is having a hard time unloading his things to pay the two election workers >> excuse after excuse. as i was reading about what was happening today he actually did not want to show up in court and wanted to do it virtually. not have to face the plaintiffs who he did all of this harm to, right? i appreciate the judge seeing all of the excuses and folding

his fight to the fire. you damaged their lives, not just theirs but people people feel as though should i porfacepate in participate in this? my grandmother, god rest her soul, wanted to do. hand them their damages but this is really taking away the strength within our american democracy and people who want to participate. so, rudy giuliani got to pay up. stop running from the court. >> just pay up. give up the cars, the apartment, duit, you should pay. on another issue trump got a little bit of a positive mark from you matthew for his u.s. steel decision, let's go on the other side. he jumped on board fox when fox, for about two hours was misrepresenting the new orleans terrorist attack as something to do with the border as being open borders, attacked by a

person that comes over the border from mexico. that was a lie. it seems that while they did retract the story fox is not letting go of the narrative. it feels dangerous because it is untrue. your thoughts? >> even the current new speaker, the new re-elected speaker is not letting it go. >> he is from there >> yes. >> from louisiana. >> yes. talking about it and talking about the open border so people do not have to connect the dots in their minds. to me it is such a dangerous thing in our democracy. it goes back to times in our history where people made up stories and then all of a sudden large segments of neighborhoods were wiped out because someone made up a story. you know well, the african american community made it up. about somebody touching a white

woman and people were lynched. it is such a dangerous thing do. they do not have common sense in this to deal with it. >> or eating the cats and eating the dogs in the haitian community and all of the terrorist threats and the threats against those communities as a result and we are going to play our favorite game right after this break. we'll be right back. rite game right after this break. we'll be right back. at bombas, we make absurdly comfortable socks, slippers you'll float in, and underwear and tees

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. well, friends, we made it to the first friday of the year of 2025. it can only mean one thing. time to play our favorite game. who won the week? back with me are matthew and elencia. matt who won the week? >> the oligarchs of america. specifically jeff bezos, elon musk and zuckerberg and a few

others, so trump can do anything he wants on their behalf, they own the senate that has the appointments and the courts that will hold them responsible and they own the house that has tax budgets and policy. i bet they will win a few more weeks going forward. >> okay, you brought me down. you brought me down. it is accurate but sad. i will need you to bring me back up. matt brought me down. bring me up. >> matt, that was depressing. i will perk us up and shout out don porter. an amazing filmmaker and director who has luther never too much for all of us to see and