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tv   Alex Witt Reports  MSNBC  January 4, 2025 1:00pm-2:00pm PST

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>> you have just heard the morehouse college glee club singing eternal father. that was the navy him. it was preceded by america the beautiful and be thou my vision by the 282nd army band out of ft. jackson, south carolina. mark remarks will be offered by jason carter, grandson and chair of the carter center board of trustees. >> it afternoon. we will have many chances this week to pay tribute to my grandfather. it was important for all of us that we stop here. these buildings, as you all know, are filled with his life, not just because this is a museum to his life, and not just because there is a collection here of his beloved
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paintings, but his spirit fills this place. the real reason that this spirit fills this place is because of the people who are standing here. the people in this room, from the library, then use them and the carter center itself, you all are the real keepers of my grandparents legacy. the jimmy carter library museum holds the historical legacy, tells my grandparents story, which is an unbelievable american story, you hold it and you present it for my kids, and for their kids, and for all of the other generations to come. to the people at the carter center, you continue the vibrant living legacy of what is my grandfather's life's work. really. you know this. he won the nobel peace prize,
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he was president of the united states, when he won that price, it was in no small part because of the work this organization has done and continues to do. we will spend this week celebrating this incredible life . a life that i think we can all agree is as full and powerful as any life can be. as someone said, it is amazing what you can cram into 100 years. as we celebrate that legacy, i want you to know, in many ways, we are talking about the work that you do every day. many of you have devoted decades to his legacy. you have been his partners, you have worked alongside world leaders and village heroes far beyond the end of the road who are the other people who carry out that legacy who are not in the room
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today, whom all of us know so well and respect so much. your expertise, your track record will continue to drive a world where people can participate in free, fair and credible elections. where the rule of law and human rights are respected and enjoyed, not just by some people but by everyone. a world where kids do not go blind from preventable diseases , where there is no such thing as getting worm disease, or river blindness. where we strengthen health systems far beyond the end of the road across some of the most marginalized places in the world. that is the work that gets done in this place them in these buildings. one of the amazing parts of my grandparents legacy is the strength of this organization and its ability to continue their work without the physical presence. all of us have been thinking
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about this day and planning for a long time. it is obviously still hard for all of us. for us, my family and i can see on your faces for many of you. just know that while we mourn my grandfather's passing, i know in my heart that his legacy will live on, not only because of the millions of people that he touched across the globe, but very specifically because of your spirit and your knowledge and the work and the track record that you do every day. for us, on behalf of my family and to the people in this room and to your colleagues and our colleagues across the world that work with the carter center, thank you for what you have done for him, for what you have done for my grandmother, and for what you continue to do for the world. thank you so much.
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>> jason carter in tribute to the employees of the carter center. now we will hear the scripture reading by tony. >> usually every saturday i make the pilgrimage down to plains, georgia. sitting beside president carter in the compound . you walk in the room he is wrapped in a blanket that has psalms 23 on it create one of his favorite psalms. the lord is my shepherd, there's nothing i lack. he lets me lie down in green pastures. he leads me beside quiet waters, he renews my life. he leads me along the right path for his namesake. even when i go through the darkest valleys, i fear no danger, for you are
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with me, your rod and your staff, they comfort me. you prepare a table before me in the presence of my enemies, you anoint my head with oil, my cup overflows only goodness and faithful love will pursue me all the days of my life and i will dwell in the house of the lord as long as i live. you can use your spiritual imagination, for almost 2 years , our friend, number 39, president carter, pop pop, dad, wrapped in a blanket says psalms 23. >> that was the personal pastor
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to president jimmy carter reading psalm 23. now chip carter, his son. >> there was a lot of love on the side of the road. every overpass had people on it. it was amazing and gave you goosebumps to sit in the van and see the reactions of people to him. it is so good to be here in the carter center, the circle of life of our family for the last years. i am so proud of jason for accepting to be our family member on the board and we are trusting him with my father's legacy now, no pressure. dad's aspirations and mom's dreams have been fulfilled , in large part, by the people
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here, by what he did as president and governor. i want to tell you a little bit about him as a human being. when my brothers and i were 10 years old, we were, to put sealed tags on the top of peanut bags. they did 100 pound bags of burlap and the federal government would give a ticket to say what the determination was. you climb on top of the bags and you put those tickets on the bags. we got paid a dime 100. the husk on the peanut, if it is cracked the peanut will not come up. it was a perfect job for 10- year-olds. we learned, or we began to learn the value of hard work. the value of trusting your
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neighbors. most of the people that worked at the warehouse were african american. our neighbors, the closest ones to us were african american and they are the ones that i spent my saturdays with. they were my age. we had a wonderful when we came back from connecticut, we carved a trail down the side of the canyon across the street of our house, then we cut a vine. when you go down the sled if you grab the vine you could swing out over the breyers and come back without getting hurt. then you could use the rope to crawl to the top and pull the sled behind you. or mud, yes. >> when i was in the eighth grade, i failed, i brought home a s in latin. i did not see any reason to learn latin, nobody i knew
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spoke it. my father was not pleased. the next morning, he came into my room and said, we were on christmas vacation and he said you have your latin book? i said yes. he said let me have it read he went to work at carter warehouse. when he came home that night, we spent an hour and a half him teaching me latin that he learned from my book that day. he did that every day of christmas vacation. the first day of the school year after christmas, i went to my teacher and asked if she would let me take the final over again that she would give me the test. she said yes but after school that day i took my test and i made 100. i owed it to my father who spent that time with me. he was the boy scout leader in our town. one day, we were trying to get our merit badges in hiking so
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we took a six mile hike to our pond on one of the farms, about 20 of us, we had hot dogs, marshmallows and whatever and had a big fire going. at the end of that, dad started telling ghost stories. one particularly bad one at the end was very gross. he claimed it happened on our farm. he told us all to go to bed, we were all sitting there not knowing what to do. after a while we decided that we would use the buddy system to go into the woods to use the bathroom after dark so we could all get some relief before we went to sleep because we were sure we would be attacked when we got there. i want to thank all of you here, as jason said he had my parents legacy from georgia, from the governor's office and the presidency, was rough at
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the end of it because of our opposition and the way they framed us, which was probably somewhat true and somewhat not paid all of the stuff after that is in the hands of the people that worked here and still work here. i see many people here that i don't recognize and i welcome you to come and spend your time doing the kind of things that my parents loved to do and left for us to do. i need to think some other people too. the hospice folks that looked after my father for 22 months were amazing. every week we got a report on how he was doing and what we could do to make him more comfortable. it gave us a lot of confidence and it gave us the ability to think about him in a different kind of way. then we had caregivers, one of
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them is here in the audience. she's set with my father for six years, they became my father's friends. they are the people that helped keep him alive and comfortable and fed and cleaned and did all that kind of stuff that we did not want to do. it was amazing what they did for us. another thing i would like to say, i would like to think my family. you know, when you are president of the united states, you think about your family but you do not interact with the much. his job was so much more than doing family stuff read you had to get a notice in advance. giving up that time ensuring that affected our family.
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we do not have our parents as much as we could have. i want to thank them for the sacrifice that they made and all that they gave. i was lucky. i went to see my parents three nights, two days every week for five years. i took over the farm from him. he liked that because he was able to boss me around every day. i actually was able, during that time, to become friends with my parents, something i never expected. to be able to sit down and talk to them like human beings instead of the boss. it was an amazing thing for me. something i will always cherish. and then hospice came and my brother jeff and my sister amy and my ride becky we split it up, i went every fourth week
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which was amazing but two weeks every month doing our part. that was difficult for all of us. he was an amazing man and he was held up and propped up and sues the bight an amazing woman. it was an amazing thing to watch from so close and be involved in it. i thank you for your service. >> that could not have been more special. jimmy carter's son, chip, paying homage to his father very lovingly and very emotionally. something he did as well to his mother come is something that we watched the very dignified funeral at the family baptist church in november 2023.
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we now see the wreath placement. wreath one will be placed at the carter center by the ceo of the jimmy carter library and the director. there will be a second wreath placed there by the governor of georgia, of course ryan kemp and the mayor of atlanta, andre dickens. [ music ] ]
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>> you are now going to hear the morehouse college glee club sing the lord's prayer. >>
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>> the prayer will not be offered by bernstein hollis, a longtime friend and carter center employee. will >> let us pray. what a friend we have in jesus, all of our sins and griefs to bear. what a privilege it is to carry everything to god in prayer. first peter 5:7 reminds us we
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can cast all of our cares upon the for he cares for us. holy precious father thank you for your amazing grace. we thank you, dear god, for all that you have done and all that you will continue to do through the lives of your people, lord god. today, father god in heaven we thank you for the mandate you placed here on earth, who was an example to us, lord god, as to what you have said in your word, lord god, how we are to live, a god. you allowed him to be here on earth to give us example of how we should live and what we should do. i am reminded in matthew 25:35 through 36, when i was hungry you fed me, when i was naked you clothed me. when i was thirsting you gave me drink, when i was a stranger you took me in we thank you for the man of god, jimmy carter, lord god. we thank you, god, for the life that you placed in him, o god,
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for being the example for us in the station. we thank you, o god, for what you allowed him to do in this building. building help, fighting disease and waging peace, o god. we thank you for the humanitarian that he was in this life, o god. our father god in heaven, we thank you for continuing to do what you have done, o god. help us to be the example, lord god, get here on earth to live a life as jimmy carter lived a life, lord god. holy spirit, we ask that you risk upon this family during these days of sadness, o god. our hearts are heavy but yet we rejoice in what we have seen through his life, o god. we celebrate his life today, o god, remembering, o god, how he helped so many come o god. he saw no skin color, yet extended a hand to help someone who is down and out. father, god, we thank you and we bless your holy and righteous name. we come boldly before the throne of grace continuing to ask that your confidence and strength only eight as you can.
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you said that you would not leave us, you would not leave us without a. you would send the holy spirit to comfort. father, god, we ask you in the name of jesus that you continue to comfort this family. be with them throughout the days ahead, o god, as they are yet traveling. comfort and strength in them, o god. continue to allow them to bond together in unity and love, o god. we ask the name of jesus, o god, that we be reminded of joshua 1:6, be encouraged and be strong. during these times, o god, things can happen, is can become a part. father, god, we ask that you bind them together in unity and in love, o god. father, god, i ask, o god, that the life that he lived, i challenge each of us to live the life that he lived. the dispute example, lord god, that others can see the love of christ in us. as i in this prayer, father, god, i use this prayer as a center from his book written
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faith, our creative god, you are with us at any time and at any moment. you are here for each of us to give us guidance, to give us solace, and to give us forgiveness, and or to meet other person in need. we ask in the name of jesus that you receive this prayer and you continue to comfort this family. the with them, o god, continuously. bind them together stronger in your word o god, strengthen them all got to know that we have lost a great man, a blessed man come up but we will continue to live the legacy that he left behind. the world will remember him, o god, for the mighty and the many things he has done in this world. father, god, we thank you and we bless you and we give your name the praise, the glory and honor and we say amen. >> to end this service, the morehouse college glee club will sing the battle hymn of the republic. .
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[ music ] ♪ ♪ mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the lord; he is trampling out the vintage where the grapes of wrath are stored; he hath loosed the faithful lightning of his terrible swift sword; his truth
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is marching on. glory glory hallelujah. glory glory hallelujah. glory glory hallelujah. his truth is marching on. .
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♪♪ i have seen him in the watchfire's of a hundred circling camps; they have build and him and alter in the evening dues and dams; i can read his righteous sentence by the dim and flaring lamps, his truth is marching on. glory glory hallelujah. glory glory hallelujah. glory glory hallelujah his truth is marching on. .
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♪♪ in the beauty of the lilies christ was born across the sea, with a glory in his bosom that chance figures you and me; as
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he died to make men holy, let us die to make men free. while god is marching on. glory glory hallelujah. glory glory hallelujah. glory glory hallelujah. his truth is marching on. glory and glory hallelujah. glory glory hallelujah. glory glory hallelujah. his truth is
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marching on. amen. amen. . >> a very powerful and fitting recessional, if you will, allowing those assembled at the carter presidential center and library to leave that beautiful lobby area. what you see there, is what anyone over the next 61 plus hours will see until 6:00 a.m. tuesday morning, a honor guard will be sending there representing all four branches of the military. they will stand in honor of the palmer president guarding his casket
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as people are allowed to pay their respects until tuesday morning at 6:00 a.m.. after which, his body will be transferred to maryland and subsequently onto washington, d.c. in the rotunda for those gathering in the nation's capital will be able to pay their respects. i am honored to have a wonderful panel to go through what we have seen at the reactions, we have jonathan alter, msnbc contributor and author of carter's biography, his very best, jimmy carter a life. peter baker, chief white house correspondent for the "new york times". greg bluestein, political reporter for the constitution and my good friend, msnbc anchor richard louis. i will go to you first, richard, this was a spiritual ceremony and it befitted this president a particular. you, given your connection with chip carter, whom we saw so beautifully eulogize his father
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making a personal just as he did with his mother, he did that pretty much off the cuff, as he told you he would when you were with him in plains, georgia yesterday. how remarkable is he? >> he did exactly what he thought he was going to do. those stories that he talked about being a kid at 10 years old with peanut bags and putting the labels on -- >> i love the latin one. >> when his father went out and became an expert at work so he could teach his son. and the 10-year-old, what he would also add is he made $.10 an hour at the age of 10 and then $.11 when he turned 11 and $.12 when he turned 12 are seei chip carter him and perhaps the rest of the family, despite 680 days in hospice, they are realizing as they go through these days of what their father, what their grandfather meant to them.
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even though it was a slow goodbye, if you will, over the last two years. what i see from chip today versus yesterday, is the sun that became a spokesperson, the son who is not the favorite of his father come up at the favorite of his mother, who became the person who had to represent his generation of that presidential family saying, my dad was something special to me and in fact when he was having with trouble with substance use at the age of 15 and he went to his father late at night to the foot of his bed, his dad said, put your genes understand them in the corner, get your suit show up tomorrow and he became the driver for his father for the rest of his time. that was the relationship that they had and what chip carter is remembering, especially the last five years, he saw this president more often than anybody else right next to his bed. >> talking to him about being
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with him two weeks. i want to let people know what we are seeing, these are members of the carter center, the staff are bidding their farewell, whether they go to washington as well remains unclear. this is home for them but this is where they spent their time working on behalf of jimmy carter and all of his endeavors. i believe the number in the realm of 3000, which is an external group trying to continue the good work that he has done. let me bring in greg again, you are with the atlanta journal- constitution, talk about the role of the carter center in the community around it come atlanta and the greater georgia, what do people go to the carter center for or attribute to the carter center? >> as his grandson jason said, it is a museum, that's where the president's papers are and
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his library is prayed you can go there to learn about the history of the former president and his legacy, not just in white house but also in georgia. but also his international mission. they arrange peace around the world, they fight global disease, they monitor elections, they tried to make the georgia community better and the international community better. there are thousands of people who worked the last four decades promoting those missions. there are very different missions altogether, but they are missions that they fight to promote. it plays an indelible role in georgia, but also across the world. it is the standard for the former president legacy moving forward. >> jonathan, as i bring you in, i am curious what you think president carter would make of this pomp and circumstance. this man came from humble beginnings and yet he clearly respected the traditions that were afforded a president of the united states. he also is a guy who will put on his jeans, take a walk and
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not want to want to stand on certain traditions, did not want him hail to the chief played all the time. talk about what his impression of this would be. >> i noticed when they played hail to the chief, they stopped playing it when he became president and his aides convinced him that it was better for him to take on some of the things of office but he was uncomfortable with that. just to give you a sense of what he was like around the carter center. as you can imagine they spent a diminished amount of time in the carter libraries when i research the book. my first visit, after we had dinner, he gave me a tour of the family quarters for him and rosalynn, that residents were giving out their library, they spent about a week a month in atlanta at the carter center and they were traveling, literally hundreds of trips bought in the other time than
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spending a certain amount of time in plains. during the week that was spent in atlanta, four decades, they decided that instead of having this one room designated as a bedroom, they would have that as rosalynn carter's office. i said during the tour, where did you sleep? they took me to the den and they motioned toward a murphy bed. the secret service would pull down from the wall and they slept on a murphy bed one week a month. during the day, when he was in atlanta, when he was at the carter center, i would often see him in the cafeteria and he would have an apple, a cup of soup and he would take his
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plastic tray and he would go down and sit down with one of the people that worked at the carter center and find out how it was going. this was not a humble man, no politician is humble, but he was a man of great modesty, good humor and his intelligence was so penetrating that you learned something from every conversation, about all kinds of things, the range and depth of his knowledge was astounding. he was one of the best informed people i have met in my life for you >> that is saying something given the likes of people you have met. to go back to chips tribute to his father and memories. when you think about his father taking a latin book and being able to study it and with his
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son and take him from what he described as a failing grade to getting a perfect 100 the fact that jimmy carter was able to take on latin and learn that, i will tell you full disclosure, i studied latin a while back and i remember two senses, it is not an easy language. peter, i want to bring you in for a big picture given your coverage over the years. the carter term became a complicated and turbulent time for this country. what do you think were some of the highs and the lows for which it will be remembered? >> of course he came in the wake of watergate and vietnam. he promised, in a sense, to bring government back to the people. there was a great loss of faith in washington, loss of faith in our institutions. he said he would come to washington as an outsider and he would drain the swamp, long
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before somebody else used that phrase. he said i would never tell a lie. he came to washington and he did some big things. some big things that people would remember is camp david accords bringing peace between israel and egypt. that peace treaty remains in place today, the bedrock security in the middle east, if that were not there today would be as volatile as that region is or more so. he also drafted the panama canal treaty, which transformed america's relationship with the neighbors and latin america. he finished what richard nixon started with china with a secret trip to beijing. he offered amnesty to vietnam war draft dodgers to try to close the circle on that very painful experience in america. he tried to forge better relations with the soviet union, which of course, ended up being upended when the soviets invaded afghanistan and
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he ended up being the one to begin the military buildup that later was credited largely to ronald reagan. >> i want to have join our panel, congressman. congresswoman, i know we have a number things he wanted to talk to you about, notably, we have all been watching, i know you as well, president jimmy carter was transported to his library and lying there after the ceremony. what are your thoughts? >> my initial thoughts is to conduct my deepest condolences and gratitude to the carter family for allowing him to serve so long as governor and officer. as mentioned by one of your earlier panel as he came into office during a tumultuous time in the field of the nixon scandal. i think he will be
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remembered fondly and when i think of jimmy carter i think of habitat for humanity. even then he new housing was an important part of giving people basic needs. fast forward to today we have a housing crisis. it was interesting watching him and honoring him and i would say very rightful 10th congressional district of washington state and a grateful state. >> he will be moving to maryland on tuesday and subsequently being honored in the midst of the national cathedral of washington where you have dignitaries from all of the country and perhaps yourself included may attend. what is the field, generally, of washington? if you have spoken with colleagues in the house, i know you have been very busy lately, getting the 119th congress underway, nonetheless, the 39th president died and i am sure there are discussions about his legacy. how do you think washington
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feels about him? >> i think washington looks at him today in 2024 times in a lot of different ways. some people like me appreciate his legacy and all the work that he does, he gives you humility and with grace. i would say in 2024 where politics are so divided, washington watching this moving service really brought it home to me. i was in high school when jimmy carter served as president of the u.s. i think of the climate then, even if people were in disagreement or from different parties, it was never personal because you trusted whoever served as president really did want to do his best. i think about what is happening today and i compare the transgression of richard nixon compared to president trump and
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i think to myself, wow, the standards have really changed. overall, in washington, d.c., we want to get going and do the people's work. like many of my colleagues, we believe bipartisanship is how you get things done and we have to adhere to that. the american people need is now more than ever to address the housing crisis, to try to bring the cost of living down, to do what we can to make sure we lead around the world. i think this you know service gives us a chance to pause and reflect and ask ourselves what does it mean to love this country and what does it mean to be serious about governing. at the end of the day the people expect us to take this work seriously. >> congressman that was beautiful. we look forward to having a back on the broadcast when we have more time to speak with you about other things and topics of the day, issues facing congress right now. thank you so much for your time. >> sed: peter, i want to go back to you pick up on what they congresswoman was saying about the character jimmy carter, what we have noticed over these last few days, thinking about the life he led by example, how much, do you
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think, is a chance of some of that permeating washington today ? >> not much, honestly let's be candid about it pay it maybe a day or two people will pay homage to jimmy carter and talk about his character and the good things about him, and they may make lovely statements about wanting to follow in his footsteps, it will not last very long. washington is a very polarized place. it is a very ideological and divided place. it is a place where, just yesterday in the house of representatives with the battle to pick a speaker, that never used to be a drama, they can even do that without some splintering and fighting. i do not expect the spirit of jimmy carter as much as people will the next few days has
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permeated here in washington. washington right now is a different place than when he was in office. i think with the panama canal treaty he worked in a bipartisan way with the senate republican leader and with other republicans gerald ford, henry kissinger, harry goldwater, he passed the two thirds, which is impossible to conceive, it would not happen today. it is a different place. >> different place and time. greg, jimmy carter, the only u.s. president born in georgia. what will be his top lasting legacy there? >> i hope it is bipartisanship. we can dream about washington but here in georgia i love the pause at the state capital where a bipartisan group of lawmakers celebrated jimmy carter's legacy. sonny perdue is the first republican judge or governor in georgia and i asked him what his relationship jimmy carter
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was like, jimmy carter gave him advice over the years. he said what was most notable to him is so me people across party lines could come together and celebrate a great man. this is a former member of donald trump's administration, he was secretary of agriculture and donald trump's first term saying jimmy carter was a great man and georgia should come together to celebrate that. >> i will let you, richard, give the last word before we wrap up this hour given that you are in planes with the family yesterday, how do they go forward? how hard is it for them? >> when you asked that question i was thinking of lincoln who drove with his mom, a teenager coming from chicago who said i heard about this president who i researched and i studied in high school, i want to come down during this time. they drove and arrived at his hometown in planes, the future jimmy carter is in teenagers like lincoln from chicago with his mother. that is, as chip
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carter was telling me, the empathy and love that he hopes his father is remembered for. >> that is a beautiful sentiment. thank you for sharing that. thank you to all of you so much. i appreciate all of you being here ray, jonathan, peter and of course richard in the studio. as we leave you watching the carter center employees coming by and paying their final respects to former president jimmy carter as he lies in repose. i will see you all tomorrow at 1:00 p.m. eastern time. now, we had things off to politics nation with reverend al sharpton. d al sharpton.

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