i mean, i can see you right now if that's...convenient. visionworks. see the difference.

welcome back to the weekend. 10 days before he begins his second term as president, trump will be sentence on 34 gilded counts of falsifying business records. this was part of his effort to interfere in the 2016 presidential election. he has the option to appear virtually or through the internet but he won't be facing jail time. that was not the only legal blow for trump last week. a federal appeals cold op-ed e. jean carroll's $5 million civil judgment which a jury awarded her after he found trump liable

for sexually abusing her in the 1990s and defaming her after she went public with allegations. joining us is mary mccord, acting assistant security for the department of justice and she's the cohost of one of the best podcasts, prosecuting donald trump podcast and msnbc legal analyst. >> mary mccord, good morning. i want to connect the dots between what we have been watching the legal developments around trump and what we saw just yesterday with trump inviting a number of people who were big parts of the lead up to january 6 two celebrate them at the white house, around this east man dilemma documentary. it's part of the trailer. let's watch it and talk about it on the other side. >> helped design a strategy. one could not of predicted it would've subject me to love fear, but i thought it was important to take on that representation. >> was it worth the?

>> distorting laws that have been on the books, to find people we don't like because they're saying things we do not like, and to uses criminal laws to go after them. that's l'affaire on steroids. >> the reason i wanted to play that clip is what they are selling to the base. they are selling the idea that the democrats are the ones weaponize in the law to come after republicans. talk is through the reality of what it is we are watching both the celebration at mar-a-lago and this ruling from judge merchan? >> it's really rich for john eastman to talk about l'affaire when the entire scream, the electorate scheme hatched by kenneth chesebro and troopers who were able to get it to the white house when trump was in the white house and get it to people like john eastman who continue to promote it. that was l'affaire. that was trying to concoct a

legal argument, dubious as it was, in order to support an effort the electro ballots from the swing states, the losing candidate, donald trump, to send those electoral ballots to capitol hill to be counted on january 6. we were at the four year anniversary tomorrow january 6 and in the words of those who concocted this scheme to throw things into chaos so if no candidate had a majority of the vote, then the house would vote and the houseboats one vote per state and that would throw the election to trump. that's what john eastman engaged in. to bring it together the, the celebration of those who took part in the lead up to january 6 is the culmination of four years of disinformation about what happened on january 6. disinformation about the efforts

to overturn the results of the will of the people. whether it's priming the pump for something we will see in the next four years remains to be seen, but it shows this constant, constant pushback against reality and using terms like john eastman used like lawfare to flip the tables, turn the tables and show that legitimate adherence to the rule of law by prosecutors and by judges, by judges, to bring back your point, about judge merchan. they are trying to flip that script. >> the thing that strikes me in all of this from donald trump to ruby duties janik -- rudy giuliani and eastman as they sound no different from the petty criminal that rudy giuliani used to prosecute who would stand in front of a reporter or bank of cameras or a judge and claim his innocence and say how the law was being used against them and all this

other stuff. prosecutors like rudy giuliani back in the day would go okay, right. we uphold the rule of law. it is interesting and rich to hear rudy giuliani on the judge merchan decision. the case is a disaster. it's an embarrassment for new york. maybe his worst embarrassment given the people he killed as a result of his incompetence as da. the case should never have been charged, should have been dismissed for failure to state a crime. should have been dismissed and the theory you don't have multiple choice verdict. you got convicted. you owe a lot of money to people you defamed. right? >> he had to give up his cars and watches. >> right? that was not the judge randomly picking you out. that was not the judge using the rule of law against you or the creation of lawfare or whatever the hell that means.

explain to folks this disinformation of the law around the law that, you know, these same individuals like rudy and eastman once stood on the right side of and now because they have engaged in criminal behavior, they have the advantage of twisting the system in a way that the criminals they once prosecuted could not. >> yeah. it's the trend we are seeing and that's the attack on the rule of law. some of what the chief justice was talking about and his end of the year report about the independence of the is under threat not only because of violence and intimidation but also disinformation and proposals to ignore judicial rulings. rudy giuliani did that. he had rulings on his liability with amounts set about what he owed ruby freeman and shaye moss for defaming them and

really damaging them, injuring them. they got death threats. they had to move. actual monetary damage as well as emotional damage and yet he is defying the court orders to divulge his assets. he is hiding things. he was at a hearing friday that is continuing tomorrow about whether he should be in contempt for failing to produce the assets he needs to produce to fulfill that judgment. that is what the chief justice was talking about in his message. this defiance of judicial orders and the rule of law. we are in a dangerous situation when it comes to the rule of law when between disinformation and people in positions of power , elected officials, are espousing the idea of ignoring court rulings. we may disagree with court rulings, i often do, sometimes i think they're right or wrong, but if we get to a point in

this country where we do not abide by those rulings, then we have lost a critical piece of what keeps a functioning democracy. >> to put a finer point on it because i think, you have identified is, that's the rub. that's the crux of it. because, i remember the dobbs decision and there were some people, democrats, who said the biden administration should ignore what the supreme court said. karine jean-pierre got questions about it at the podium and she was like, and she said the president while he disagrees with the ruling, he respects the supreme court has this authority. there are people out there who will say why? as in the game change? i think it's change but not in that respect. if we start ignoring the laws, the loss agreements will have about how this is how we operate

and if we ignore the laws and allow the loss to bully discarded and ignored, there is nothing holding our society together. laws can be changed and sometimes laws are wrong. segregation used to be legal. people who looked like michael and i and the laws were wrong so we had to changed them and they needed to be challenged. the answer is not disregarding but the incoming president of the u.s. of america believes the answer is to disregard. he does not believe the answer is to abide by. >> i guess it depends on if he likes the ruling. he's in favor of the immunity ruling issued by the supreme court and deploys it in every possible way including civil cases pending against him. i think he picks and chooses the ruling he likes. i do hold out the hope that even donald trump and those around him will recognize that if you

blatantly defy what the courts say, that is going to take away one of our three branches. >> now, mary. >> it's a new year. >> the reality is that's not what they believe. >> and that is not what they are going to do. in a lot of ways, we find ourselves, the legal community finds itself confronting a lot of things that in many respects, allowed to happen. allowing particularly the judicial side, and certainly when you look at the department of justice, actions it could have been taken two or three years ago. because of politics, were not. how much will politics continue to try the behavior, we talked about the media before, how

much will that drive how the legal community and our justice system responds to what this administration does? >> to bring us full circle and we have one minute left, everything that michael laid out, put judge merchan's ruling into context. is anything resembling accountability? >> given those circumstances and if you read his opinion, he believes he is doing what he can to uphold the rule of law and the jury's verdict. he emphasizes more than once that this is a jury of 12 individuals who were chosen and sat through the evidence and rendered their verdict, and the verdict must be respected. he recognizes that because of the supremacy clause and because of separation of powers and federalism concerns and the executives power presidency that a sitting president cannot serve a sentence of incarceration.

he recognizes that but he wants to have a sentencing and have a finality to this case and respect the jury's verdict. >> mary mccord, as always, thank you for being with us. you will hear more in the prosecuting donald trump podcast. this week she and andrew was him, scan the qr code on your screen and start listening today. we are saying good-bye to symone so she can join your friends on meet the press. we have a lot more ahead. the lead investigator in the january 6 committee joins us to mark the anniversary of the attack on the capitol. f, and for zero heartburn 1 prilosec a day... beats taking up to 10 antacids a day. it's that simple, for 24 hour heartburn relief... one beats ten. prilosec otc. you don't hurt because you're old. you hurt because your mattress stinks. which makes our job a lot easier. sleeping on purple improves your energy by 20%.

which is awful. for us. it's very good news for you. do not go to purple.com do not visit a purple store”

in 24 hours, trump will be certified as the winner of the 2024 presidential election. the certification will take place four years from the date

to the deadly attack on the u.s. capitol. it comes as no surprise that trump is embracing the very people who tried to stop the 2020 election from being certified. as we have been discussing, last night trump boasted a party at mar-a-lago and in attendance, john d smith, rudy giuliani, jeffrey clark and michael flynn, all key players in his efforts to overthrow the election four years ago. joining us, tim heaphy, he is the author of harbingers, what january 6 in charlottesville reveal about pressing threats to american democracy. you wrote a book, tim heaphy? >> yes, i was involved in both investigations. there's a lot of parallels between the book and the book draws those parallels and zooms out more broadly to drive lessons about where we are is a democracy. >> i appreciate the fact you made that link, timothy, in

this book. i really do. i don't think people get the connection that is at the core of what we see playing out now, and where a lot of those seeds come from. for you, watching the event last night at mar-a-lago where donald trump parades across the stage and elevates in particular respect mr. eastman . it's got to be disheartening but at the same time a recognition of just how much more diligent work has to be done to shore up the framework of this democracy in light of this administration that will relitigate 2020. relitigate the lies to prove that the lies are actually truth. how do you see this framing it and what does it signal to you about trump's moves and

motivations coming into his second term ? >> michael, i think you are right that it's both disheartening and reinforces how much vigilance and fidelity to democracy is required going forward. it is no surprise that he was on a stage and publicly touting the efforts of his co- conspirators back in 2020 and as much as he could try to relitigate the issues surrounding the 2020 election, to be successful in litigation, you need fact, evidence. that evidence does not exist. no matter how many investigations, no matter how many public statements are made, it comes down to the lack of any evidence that there was sufficient fraud in the 2020 election to cause the outcome. that doesn't mean that there won't be attempts to relitigate. i expect there will be

investigations of the investigations and people inconvenience and dragged in front of congress and otherwise to answer questions. bottom line, i hope in this country the rule of law matters and it takes fact and evidence to have real consequence. >> the former house judiciary chair jerry nadler talking to the huff post yesterday with a garland only started the prosecution after he was in effect forced to by the report of the january 6 committee and the criminal referral. the evidence the january 6 committee used was available from the beginning. and they proceeded with those prosecutions, i think you would've been convicted and we'd have a different president now. what do you say to that ? >> yeah, alesia, it's a fair point. we were talking to people at the center of this conspiracy for the first time. people who had not been previously interviewed by the department of justice.

we felt when it came to the political machinations, the white-collar side of the fence that we were ahead of the department of justice. they were focused on the blue- collar side and the people who were angry and rioting at the capitol. easy to say in retrospect. on january 21, 2021, they started investigating what we did. the process could've moved faster and there d've been resolution of that. to the point michael makes about looking forward, accountability has to matter and it is disappointing as someone who's a former prosecutor that thus far there has not been legal accountability for the people who set this events in motion. >> let's to that former prosecutor side of your brain a little bit further with the observation of our friend joyce vance who writes about trump potentially pardoning the january 6 insurrectionist by saying of trump pardons rioters, he would use the pardon power to erase the

attack on constitution and country. the purpose of that attack was his personal benefit. if it had succeeded, it could've permitted him to stay in power after losing the collection -- election, contrary to the principle of american democracy. in exercise of the pardon power along those lines would have no resemblance to what the founding fathers intended. for me, that is the rub. how the country oriented itself. how the founders oriented the country around these principles so that no one individual is above the law. so no one individual like over supreme court apparently thinks in this president, has immunity to do whatever the hell they want and put a tag on it, official act, and we are all good. right? i will seek the irs on your. official act. i will have an investigation done on your background and

your family, official act, it's all good. what does that tell you about this moment, and how do former prosecutors and current ones and those in the legal systems to stand up and voice an opinion this is no, this is not how this power should be used? >>. look, the functioning of the criminal justice system, the department of justice, all the law enforcement apparatus, depends on people acting in good faith and observing the norms, the procedures they have transcended politics for years. when i was presidentially appointed united states attorney, president obama, the man who appointed me said, you are not my lawyer but you were here to do what's best for the people of your district. i was in virginia, and that's the way it's been for republicans and democrats

throughout the history of the department. if you have a department of justice where to get the job i had, you need to pledge some fealty to a political leader and do things that arguably do not have a foundation in law or fact, that is frightening. democracy comes down to people. people acin goodfaith, exercising their considerable discretion, doing the right thing. i hope those career people in the department justice elsewhere stay and hang on and continue to do the right thing. but i fear the leadership they will be following will be more motivated by loyalty to the commander-in-chief than those traditional norms of independence and the rule of law. >> i want to pop this headline up. an nbc writer whose asking to attend trump's inauguration and the judge rejected that.

to attend the presidential inauguration which celebrates and on is a peaceful transfer of powers and immense privilege which is an important reminder. tim heaphy, marcus representing officials who might be targets of a possible trump retribution scheme, are you worried about retribution? >> alicia, i am not. there could be questions asked and of people want to talk to me about the work we did on the committee, i am fine with a. it still takes facts and evidence. it still takes some sort of underlying justification for there to be an actual consequence. i don't see that here. for me and anybody on our staff from liz cheney or mr. thompson or clients, members of the committee, there will be questions asked but absent evidence i am not concerned about legal consequence. >> you know, i appreciate that. the reality of it is, all of the stuff they can do before

you get to the point you just made, there is no evidence, but they can make life very expensive, and they can make life embarrassing from the standpoint, ve got to go through this crap because this man in the oval office is so petty and pathetic, that he wants to come after those who came after his criminality. that was blatant and barefaced. there is a piece of this that can be difficult. >> no question. when i say no ultimate consequence, there is a process to get there, and those questions, she said, a debilitating and distracting and expensive and affect your day-to-day life and reputation. there's no question there could be damage done just by asking the questions. >> all right, tim heaphy, thank you so much. really appreciate you coming

on and congrats on the book. how some federal employees are bracing for donald trump's return to the oval office. this is the weekend. weekend. we are the kids you champion every day. we are the ones who dream big. and because of you, our dreams become a reality. these are more than just words. this is what we're all about. this is shriners children's™. because for more than 100 years now, shriners children's™ has been on a mission to provide the most amazing care anywhere. and guess what? it's working with more than 100 access points to care shriners children's™ able to reach more kids in even more places all around the world. when we need them the most their amazing doctors and nurses are treating kids in the u.s., canada, mexico, and latin america. and they're helping kids from more than 100 other countries too.

and the best part? they're doing all of this regardless of a family's ability to pay. and someone else helps make it all possible. you. tú. you. tú. you too. it's true. you're pretty awesome. when you go online to loveshriners.org or call this special number with your monthly gift, you'll make a difference too. your donation large or small helps shriners children's™ do new research creates life-changing treatments, and provide burn care to kids around the world. every day, people like you give families like ours the hope and healing we need. and when you give your monthly gift of $19 or more. we'll send you your very own love to the rescue® blanket. it's a warm reminder of the incredible things you're making possible, and that you're a part of something special. because no matter where we come from or what language we speak, every kid deserves the most amazing care anywhere. so how can you help? take a moment.

call or go online to loveshriners.org right away and start filling our world with more hope, healing and possibilities.

it ain't my dad's razor, dad. ay watch it! it's from gillettelabs. this green bar releases trapped hairs from my face... gamechanga! ...while the flexdisc contours to it. so the five blades can get virtually every hair in one stroke. for the ultimate gillette shaving experience. the best a man can get is gillettelabs. most people don't realize how processed typical dog food is. at the farmer's dog,

we believe dogs should be able to get their daily nutrition without the excess processing. ♪♪ new this morning, president biden is set to deliver two major speeches before he leaves office. two people familiar with the plans exclusively tell nbc news the first spiritual focus on foreign policy. it will take place when the president returns from his final trip abroad, a trip to italy, january 12. the second speech will be a farewell address to the country, and those remarks is expected to share a message about the future and reflect on his decades in public office. looking forward to both of those. the foreign-policy speech i think will be important but even more significant will be the farewell to the nation. now, if i were writing that

speech, it would be real short. let's put it that way. after what he is gone through with these people, i would be like, you all, two words. >> i am glad you are not writing the speech, michael steele because listen boo-boo and tell more truths. it is significant. you think of the fact this man has spent the bulk of his life in public service. it is important to speak about the legacy not only of these four years as president or his time as vice president but anything what's interesting about joe biden and historians will grapple with is the evolution that we have watched on some of his policies from the time he began his political career to now, the idea that change within an individual,

change of thought is possible. you can change with the times, and i think he wants to lay down a marker and say this is the america i am handing over to donald trump. this is the reality of this moment because he has to be, and his team, has to be well aware that there will be an attempt to rewrite the legacy of his administration. they are trying to do have the policies. >> yes. we know that and that's exactly right. for him in the first instance to sort of say, this is what i did. this is what i tried to do. and, knowing joe biden for so many years of following his career, he will also say, and this is what you need to do as citizens. >> bingo. >> that is kind of lost on us. a look at the country right now and we are selfish people. we are very inwardly thinking, and one of the difficulties of this administration has been grappling with that feature in

american culture and politics. that is what donald trump exploited in a way. i think joe biden once a final word about that, and he should, and it will be more than the two words i would leave behind. >> i would reframe this idea of people being selfish. i think they are concerned about the safety and security their families. if you care about your family and your future, this is how to be an active part to make things right. new fears the trump will launch criminal investigations against political adversaries. we will talk to an attorney representing this potential park it's -- targets, next. -- ohhh! the highs! no, no, no. the no, no, noooos - oooooooo! the oh, oh, ohhhhs! now whatcha wanna do with this? but the feeling that, no matter what, you're taken care of. ohhh, i just earned a hotel suite! hee!

you only get that here. at the sportsbook born in vegas, where they know how to treat you right. who you talking to jamie foxx? bonus bets. exclusive offers. real world rewards. betmgm. download and bet today. whether you need to lose 10, 20, 50, or over 100 pounds, make the healthy choice with golo. head to golo.com that's g-o-l-o.com narrator: at this very moment, children at st. jude are fighting to survive. with a gift right now, you can join the battle to save lives. katy: without saint jude, i don't know where we would be. can we see snuggles? they have given children with cancer, like my winston, a chance.

christine: she has neuroblastoma and it has spread to her liver. i try to enjoy every minute with her because i do not know when would be my last moments with her. narrator: time is running out to give a year-end gift that can help. st. jude children's research hospital save lives. because cancer doesn't stop during the holiday season. please call, go online, or scan the qr code right now and give $19 a month to help make it the season of hope for families at saint jude. tammie: just that feeling that was, like, so hard on your heart that my kid's not going to live. every day now, it's like a gift. narrator: for just $19 a month, you can make a difference. please become a st. jude partner in hope right now. franchet: those that donate, it's more than a miracle for me.

it's more than a blessing. (voice breaking) they have done so much for me and my family. narrator: join with your credit or debit card for only $19 a month, and we'll send you this st. jude t-shirt you can proudly wear to show your support. katy: all these children deserve to live, and i would love for it to be the day where no other family has to fear losing their child to cancer. you've given us hope. narrator: please don't wait until the last minute. make your donation now to help st. jude save lives.

officials are bracing for the possibility that trump is preparing to carry out his threats of retribution when he returns to often. a attorney representing many trump's potential targets is warning his clients to take the president elects threats seriously and even advising them to go on an international vacation in the first few days of this presidency. >> marc, good to see you. thank you so much for being at the table this morning with us. you had an interesting point to make an politico where you noted you don't have to be an

expert in the intelligence community to know who will face things. john brennan, liz cheney, don't think you will see it repercussions against members of congress because republicans of congress will not want to see that. give us your assessment of this landscape we are about to witness unfold. i think we've got a little preview last night down in mar-a-lago where donald trump hosted his co- conspirators and collaborators in the insurrection and the attempt to take control of the 2020 election. how do you see some of these narratives playing out, and some of the legal consequences in any action that trump and his justice department may take? >> good morning and happy new year to you both.

what a great start to the new year, right? as you mentioned last night, love the fact that john eastman was down there. one of my own clients who i had to respond to trump nominee, fbi nominee kash patel's threat to sue, and to use the monty python reference that john eastman called me amateur of all people that i should take legal advice from him. you sketched it out in the last segment. with the immunity ruling, he could to almost anything, but even beyond that, the law allows a lot more than what people understand because norms and practices always held some level of restraint of federal officials. so, irs audits, you said. revocations of security clearances of which there is no federal court jurisdiction to challenge that, even if done for improper purposes.

investigations. terminations. all sorts of things that could be done that could make life incredibly difficult for individuals, which is why one of my organizations, whistleblower aid, we provide pro bono for free legal representation to whistleblowers, and we expect there probably will be a great number of those, i hope. >> let's stay on that point. the wall street journal is reporting that some attorneys are looking for protections. officials who worked on politically sensitive cases way moves ahead of trump second term. if you are inside doj, what remedies are even available to you? >> i have heard from a number of lawyers within the justice department, fbi agents who have worked on jack smith's cases, just as part of their normal course of business. nothing political. just signing search warrants

and other investigative tax they normally do. the problem is there's not a lot you can do in preparation. we will be ready for providing pro bono representation through whistleblower aid, but the rest of us we will have to wait and see what might happen. i do not have a lot of faith, which is sad to say, and the federal judiciary at because i don't trust the judges. many trump-appointed judges a appear before all the time and they are fine. what i am concerned about is the length of time it takes to mount a legal challenge, especially given the lawfare which they use as a weaponize word, the lawfare that the maga crowd uses to delay, delay, delay, and appeal, appeal, and appeal. while i think ultimately we will win the lot of the litigation, it could be the next day me -- admin of j.d.

vance or kamala harris before we have a favorable resolution that holds firm. >> speak to the sense of fairness that i think will be part of the conversation in the sense that we watched donald trump and a lot of his cronies go to this judicial process and you put your finger on an aspect of what they did. they delayed and obfuscated and pretended that this was lawfare. they make up crap and call it lawfare. there's a lot of projection. you just made a reference to those things that don't have a judicial lane in which they can be adjudicated in front of a judge. why not? why not bring it up? why not say, this is an attack, political attack on me by this administration by stripping my ability to do my job if you

take away my security clearance i cannot do my job. therefore, you impacted my personal commerce. you impacted other things that you and i's lawyers could pile on in the conversation. why not play the game the way they play it? why not engage in the system the way they engage in it so you, at least, make the point that what they are doing is wrong. you get it in the public and in front of a judicial body, and force them to acknowledge it one way or the other? >> well, i have spent the better part of more than 30 years of my legal career in d.c. trying to push some of those issues. in the security clearance realm, there's a supreme court decision from back in 1988 that precludes federal jurisdiction security clearance decisions. i think it's a ridiculous

decision, but those of us a favor the rule of law applied pass residents. >> it was the law of the land. the supreme court wrote something. >> they can reverse it but it will not happen now. maybe in 2026 if congress reverts back, we could have something change. chaos often brings change. maybe some good things will happen where we could reform some aspects. in fact, and project 2025, they talk about reforming the clearance process. i am all for that. they talk about declassification. all for that. reducing over classification, all for it. hopefully they won't use his powers to attack their political enemies. time will tell. we will see. there will be many legal challenges, without a doubt. just as we do in every

administration regardless of political party. i think we will be engaged in more this time around. >> i read something i want to go back to because i want to understand you are advising your clients who might be potential targets to go on international vacation for the first few days of the trump presidency. tell me why? >> i said that seriously. there are some people i thought it might make better sense -- be outside of the country to see what happens. i do think, based on what trump has said he would do, he will go ferociously right away. it will happen on day one and a few days after. we would have a sense of what he is going to do. from what i've heard in talking to people who i would've expected to possibly take precautions, most of them are

just saying, bring it on. i am not changing anything i am doing. you want to come at me, come at me and we will see what happens. for some people, there are serious threats. it's not just from trump. we aren't thinking everybody names off the top of his head but it's the people around him. who is a put in in cabinet positions? who are they putting in as chiefs of staff in general councils and deputies. many of these posts have not been named yet so we don't know how dire the threat might be, but we don't know how much we think we will be protected. i think there will be because some are my clients, will be in this new trump administration and will try to keep the path on the straight and narrow and follow the rule of law. i think there will be a lot of battle back and forth, like back in animal house with the devil and the angel on the shoulders of battling one another to see what decision

will be made. we are going to count on members of the for the state on every network, hopefully. to call out where there are norms that are exceeded beyond what anyone ever expected. i do think we will see that, even by many who supported trump in 2024. i think there will be decisions made were a lot of them go, oh, wait, that's not what i thought would happen. >> we've got to go but i want to say officially, i want to say about a country and people who are afraid of its president and his administration? >> not much good. >> mark zaid, we wanted to have you on the program and thank you for joining as. we hope you will come back soon. >> absolutely. if i'm not in gitmo i will happily come back. >> we will be next to each other. we will take you to carter

center in atlanta where the remains of former president jimmy carter are lying in repose until tuesday. members of the public have been invited to pay respects to the late 39th president and his remains will be transported to the u.s. capitol on tuesday to lie in state and the funeral will be held thursday. washington national cathedral.

our right to reproductive health care is being stolen from us. i can't believe this is the world we live in, where we're losing the freedom to control our own bodies. we need your support now more than ever. go online, call, or scan this code, with your $19 monthly gift. and we'll send you this "care. no matter what" t-shirt. it is your right to have safe health care. that's it. go online, call, or scan right now.

ok guys, instead of getting weathertech, i saved a few bucks and got some cheap, foreign made floor mats. but they really stink, so put these on. ♪♪ really, gary? mom, i'm thirsty. don't settle for cheap, stinky floor mats. at weathertech we make our floorliners and cargo liners here in america, out of pure non-toxic american materials. dad, next time get weathertech. they don't stink! i'm on it. find out everything we have at wt.com. our heart attack was... scary! never want to go through that again. but we could... with heart disease, you never know. so we made changes. green juice.

diet, exercise... ...statins helped. but our ldl-c (bad cholesterol) - it was stuck! - stuck! just couldn't lower it enough. and high ldl-c meant a real risk of another attack. so i said, “let's ask our doctor about repatha.” what can i say? listen to your heart. repatha plus a statin dramatically lowers ldl-c by 63%, and drops the risk of having a heart attack by 27%. do not take repatha if you're allergic to it. serious allergic reactions can occur. get medical help right away if you have trouble breathing or swallowing, swelling of the face, lips, tongue, throat or arms. common side effects include runny nose, sore throat, common cold symptoms, flu or flu-like symptoms, back pain, high blood sugar, and redness, pain or bruising at the injection site. we won't let another heart attack set us back. and neither should you. listen to your heart. lower your ldl-c and your risk with repatha. talk to your doctor.

here's the thing about think about. you've got the president partying for incoming president partying at mar-a-lago with all these folks who helped him carry out january 6, who tried to overturn the fair and free election and they celebrate johnny's man documentary, and in the documentary, you have johnny's man talking how it's democrats who are committing lawfare and it's real to me that there is a large swath of americans who they believe him.

they are buying that wholesale and until we can get on the same page about the truth and the facts, i don't know you how you have a conversation moving forward. >> that conversation will be hard to have an the only thing that breaks it open are the egregious behavior of a sycophantic administration and a diabolical leader who wants retribution. when you start seeing people being, paraded in front of judges and investigated, i think it may open the conversation. this goes back to some of what i've been saying for a long time. and in conversations with a number of political actors on the democratic side is understand the narratives that are being put up and put out in front of the country. you have to have a counterpoint. you have to call bs on it.

this whole thing has been about projection. the very thing that these maga republicans whine about happening to them are the things they are doing. the things they want to do. when they talk about election fraud, who has been arrested? look at the cases of people arrested. they haven't been democrats. they are republicans who engaged in the behavior. that will be a big part of the story is trying to put -- that should've been on public a long time ago before this narrative said in. coming up, we have our friend velshi and he will be joined by congress members stacy plaskett and jamie raskin. to reflect on the four years since january 6. it will be a nice conversation, so don't go away. t go away. help fuel today with boost high protein, complete nutrition you need, and the flavor you love.

so, here's to now... now available: boost max! (♪♪) years of hard work. decades of dedication. committed to giving back. you've been there, done that. and you're still here for more. so now that you're 50 or older, and at increased risk for pneumococcal pneumonia and ipd be proactive with capvaxive- a vaccine specifically designed for adults to help protect against pneumonia and invasive disease caused by certain types of pneumococcal bacteria. capvaxive is the only vaccine that helps protect against the strains that cause 84% of ipd in adults 50 or older compared with up to 52% by other pneumococcal conjugate vaccines. don't get capvaxive if you're allergic to the vaccine or its ingredients. tell your doctor if you have a weakened immune system. common side effects include injection-site reactions, feeling tired, headache, muscle aches, and fever. whether you've had another pneumococcal vaccine or not ask your doctor or pharmacist about capvaxive.

(♪♪) watch your step! ask your doctor or pharmacist about capvaxive. that's why visionworks makes it simple to schedule an eye exam that works for you. even if you have a big trip to plan around. thanks! i mean, i can see you right now if that's...convenient. visionworks. see the difference. prilosec knows, for a fire... one fire extinguisher beats 10 buckets of water, and for zero heartburn 1 prilosec a day... beats taking up to 10 antacids a day. it's that simple, for 24 hour heartburn relief... one beats ten. prilosec otc.

let's say you're deep in a show one beats ten. or a game or the game. on a train, at home, at work. okay, maybe not at work. point is at xfinity. we're constantly engineering new ways to get the entertainment you love to you faster and easier than ever. that's what i do. is that love island?

weekend" this sunday morning. we will see you back here next saturday, yummy, yummy, at 8:00 a.m. eastern. be sure to follow us on social media @theweekendmsnbc. velshi delivers our coverage for the day. >> any props? >> i've got nothing for you today. i was enjoying your conversation, though, about the eastman documentary. i was wondering when you aired that clip, i was wondering editorially sometimes should we do that that or should we not. i'm glat