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♪♪ from msnbc world headquarters in new york, welcome. we begin with the political headlines. tomorrow a critical and some up anniversary on capitol hill. the house and senate will convene to certify president-elect donald trump's victory in the 2024 election. it also marks four years since the january 6th attack on the capitol. to date more than 1,500 rioters have been charged with 1,100 convictions. >> i think that when you look at the work of the january 6th committee, and i support that work, the work that came out of the house of representatives, they established with historical record what happened. he led an insurrection. but the people have now voted and our job tomorrow, which is also january 6th, is to

implement the will of the people. >> we are still in the fight of our lives. it's not over by a long shot. the struggle between authoritarian lies and democracy and the struggle for the common good continues. >> meanwhile, president-elect trump and house speaker mike johnson plan for the biggest bill in american history. it would end up -- rather upend the senate republicans two bill strategy plan. every step requires near unity among republicans working with only a one vote margin in the house. >> it's always challenging and especially in this current political environment, we don't always agree among republicans within the family. >> particularly among republicans. >> when it comes to the big issues, securing the border, rebuilding the military, strengthening the economy, jep rating energy dominance for the

country, those are things which we agree. with respect to narrow margins, we will have, hopefully, a very unified effort when it comes to those core issues. >> and with 15 days had left in the white house, president joe biden has a lot to do. tomorrow he heads to new orleans to meet with victims and families of the new year's day terrorist attacks. he is then on to los angeles, then on thursday he will travel to italy to meet with prime minister melissa parra and in the final week he delivers two major speeches, one on foreign policy, the other a farewell address to the nation. the italian prime minister visited president-elect trump last night at mar-a-lago. trump hosted a party for the movie premiere been john eastman who advised trump in 2020 that vice president mike pence had the power to reject electors to stop the certification of the presidential election. and among those in attendance

were marco rubio, rudy giuliani, jeffrey clark, michael flynn. in a video apparently taken from the audience trump sang eastman's praises saying he was right the whole time. we start with msnbc's vaughn hillyard in west palm beach. what do we know about the gathering at mar-a-lago? it was quite the collection of characters. >> reporter: giorgia meloni, the prime minister of italy, was there for it all, even watching the film sitting between president-elect trump and marco rubio, the nominee to be the secretary of state. they watched this film about john eastman that attorney who was one of those individuals who was also indicted along with donald trump in georgia as part of the sprawling racketeering charges that came from the district attorney down in fulton county. but then you look at the likes of rudy giuliani, who also got a shout out from donald trump, who was at mar-a-lago last night. peter navarro, served four months in jail for defying the

january 6th select smith's subpoena. you also had michael flynn, who the january 6th select smith outlined allegations he was port of an oval office meeting before the january 6th attack, he met with donald trump and there was discussion about potentially imposing martial law as well as seizing voting machines. jeffrey clark, the department of justice official who allegedly urged other doj officials to make false claims about the 2020 election an to donald trump who been actively considering to make acting attorney general before the certification. of course, all of this is up against the anniversary. january 6th attack four years ago that led to the criminal indictments and curriculums of more than 1,100 individuals who are a part tv that mob that descended on to the capitol and notably this is coming just before tomorrow's certification proceedings in which vice president kamala harris will be the one to go before the

congress and count and certify the election results that will make donald trump the next president of the united states and will acknowledge her own defeat. we should say at this point in time there has been no public talk of any democratic members of congress who plan to object to the results here. but it's notable that last night donald trump not only was there for the viewing of the john eastman film and also was still admonishing mine pence for not rejecting electors from certain battleground states, really relitigating the election that took place four years ago atta a time he is two weeks away from returning to washington, d.c., to be inaugurated on january 20th. >> sometimes i don't have words and i think is one of those instances, just trying to interpret all of it. thank you for that. joining me now molly, senior political correspondent can "the wall street journal" and

jacquelyn, reporter with "the washington post" and msnbc contributor. good to see you both. molly, donald trump praising eastman as being right at this event with key players in the efforts to overturn the 2020 election, what does that say to you about trump's willingness to move beyond the 2020 election or lack thereof? >> yeah, you know, i think it's just a reminder that, as you say, he has never acknowledged the truth of what happened on january 6th. he has been engaged it in an attempt to rewrite and whitewash the events of that day ever since and he believes he has been successful. he believes his victory in the 2024 election was a sort of vindication of sorts for this attempt to rewrite history that he has been engaged in for the past four years. he continues to be unashamed of what happened. he has never paid a price for it, of course. was not successfully convicted when he was impeached for the second time.

and never, you know, will face any legal consequences, at least it looks like. so i think it's a reminder that this is just something that -- and i think going forward, right, we think that trump may look to pardon the january 6th rioters potentially on his first day in office. so once he reassumes that power in the white house, he is going to continue to try to rewrite this history. >> and jackie, trump also met with italian prime minister giorgia meloni last night, ahead of her scheduled meeting with president biden in a few days. few reporters were told about the east man event but none seemed to have known about the prime minister being there as well. are you surprised by this? why not put it out there? >> yeah, alex, not at all surprised in terms of the types -- giorgia meloni fits into the types of world leaders that donald trump hopes to foster even closer relationships with. once he does assume the white

house, as for why that information wasn't necessarily publicized, you know, i am not exactly sure as to that reason. but meloni and trump have been public about their relationship and mutual appreciation for each other in the past and she, obviously, is one of the most conservative prime ministers in europe right now and those in the trump camp believe she will become the go to ally for the president-elect in europe, especially as he sort of has taken an adversarial and hostile approach to some of our european neighbors and neighbors in the western hemisphere, although the role that meloni is going to be playing might not necessarily be a welcome one for her in terms of being that person who is going to mediate the relationships between trump and others as he applies pressure on some of her neighboring countries as well as trying to

dramatically alter the role that nato -- that the u.s. plays when it comes to nato and nato countries in terms. support for ukraine and its war with russia. but again, meloni is the latest on the list of fairly conservative leaders who have paid visits to mar-a-lago, including former prime minister viktor orban of hungary, who, you know, as we know has been a champion of a liberal democracy and javier, argentina's firebrand president as well. justin trudeau visited trump on the tails of him threatening to start a tariff war with canada. >> yeah. very true, the meloni perspective, having to help negotiate trump's will throughout europe potentially. this comes ahead of tomorrow's certification of the 2024 election win four years after the attack of the capitol. do you have a sense of the mood, what it's going to be like in d.c. tomorrow?

>> it may be half empty because we are anticipating a big snowstorm overnight. school has already been canceled. it could be a very slushy capitol. but, you know, we don't expect there to be objections. we expect this to be a quite smooth process. i think, you know, as much as republicans have sought to forget and to bury the events of january 6th, 2021, i think there will be plenty of democrats who want to commemorate the event of that day and remember it. so we may see some remembrances from that side of the aisle. but i think if anything, you know, this is the first presidential inauguration since that one. that was the first in american history that we had not had a peaceful transfer of power completely. so i think it is a healthy sign that this one will, as far as we know, will go forward

uninterrupted. it will be, you know, a normal passing of the torch from the president of one party to the next, the inauguration of course still a few weeks off. but i think it is a reminder of our democratic process continuing to function. >> yeah, 100%. jackie, house speaker mike johnson said donald trump wants to pass a reconciliation package instead of a separate border and energy bill followed by a tax bill proposed by senate majority leader john thune. listen to him explaining why one bill a bit earlier today. >> no one is going to love every element of a large package like that. but there will be enough elements in there to pull everyone along. they will be able to justify not getting all of their preferences because there will be other important pieces to that one piece of legislation. so i think keeping it together is how we will actually get it done and there are some real value to that. >> there he is explaining.

what does to tell you that donald trump is already expecting to be at odds with some of the leadership in congress? >> well t i think this decision, yes, at odds with senate majority leader john thune who indicated we wanted a two bill strategy as opposed to doing it in one hefty package. i think most republicans in congress are in agreement with president-elect trump and mike johnson on this because of fears about attempting the two budget bill process that would require additional political capital, whereas with the single bill it's going to allow them through the reconciliation process, this process that allows them to bypass, lawmakers to bypass a 60 vote threshold and makes the lift a little bit easier in terms of unifying a prefractious party as opposed to corralling

people around two separate bills. the flip side is that some of donald trump's priorities are going to have to be kicked down the road a little later than people would like. there were people in the future trump administration, people like stephen miller who were advocating for the two-pronged approach so that they could get things like border security, energy done off the bat and fulfill some campaign promises. but again there were lawmakers, especially those who were involved with the tax policy, which probably would have been the later end of these two bills, if that were the approach that we are taking, who were fairly concerned about splitting this into two parts because, you know, it would just be really challenging to rally people around something who have already raised concerns about extending trump's tax cuts and adding to the deficit after having already asked them to maybe fourth support behind a

bill they might not unanimously support. >> molly, could i ask you what you are hearing about donald trump holding a january 19th rally the day before the inauguration? first of all, how unusual is that? >> it's not tremendously common. it's supposed to be at, you know, the arena in d.c. so an indoor event. but, you know, he wants to bring people here for the inauguration. he certainly wants a large crowd. and so if anything this is a way of, you know, giving his supporters another reason to come to d.c., come to see the inauguration, and -- but i don't read much more into it than that. >> okay. all right. thank you both. molly and jackie, appreciate you. big news for the white house and president biden in the administration's final days. we have a live report. we are back in 90 seconds. nature knows best.

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president biden will attempt to put the final stamp on his presidency with two major speeches. one is expected to address foreign policy and the other will serve as a farewell address. nbc's aaron gilchrist is at the white house. what can you tell us about what to expect here in both these speeches? >> reporter: well, since the president ended his re-election bid, officials in the biden administration have been talking

about finishing strong we heard them say, running through the tape. we have seen a number of significant actions by the president in these last several weeks. we expect him to keep a busy schedule in the last two weeks of his term in office. two people familiar with his planning tell nbc news that the president will deliver two major speeches in that time. they are not drafted yet, but we know that one will be a foreign policy speech likely to focus on his belief that america is stronger because of the alliances that he has built or maintained around the world. we should also expect him to speak about his robust support for ukraine and about the relationships that he has worked on in the indo-pacific as well. the second speech is going to be that farewell address. we expect that it will be both forward looking about america's future, but also a retrospective, if you will, on the president's decades in public office. the white house and the president have spent the last few months really trying to explain the work the president has done these last four years to talk about the legacy that he leaves behind as well, and

before those speeches we know that later this afternoon he is going to hold a bill signing at the white house for the social security fairness act that will boost social security payments for some current and former public employees. the president and the first lady travel to new orleans tomorrow. they plan to meet with families impacted by the terror attack there last week. the president's homeland security secretary, alejandro mayorkas, was asked about the attack on tv earlier today. listen to his response. >> for the past ten years we have seen a significant increase in what we term homegrown violent extremism. it is a very difficult threat landscape and it is why we, as a community, not just the federal government, but state and local officials and residents need to be alert to it and take the precautions necessary to avoid violence from occurring. >> reporter: now, we again know that the bidens meet with families and investigators in

new orleans tomorrow. that will be followed on tuesday by a speech in southern california the president will give highlighting his record on the environment. thursday he will eulogize president carter before he leaves for rome. he is scheduled to meet with pope francis on friday and italian leaders saturday. so, alex, you can see a full plate here to end 55 years in public service for joe biden. >> very much. do you know when the farewell address will be delivered? oftentimes, it will be on the eve before inauguration as a president in his last hours in office. >> reporter: no, we don't have an exact date for either. speeches that we expect him to give. he has 14, 15 days left in office now. obviously, the inauguration on the 20th. now we are hearing as you noted a few minutes ago about president-elect trump holding an event on the 19th. we will see if those things bump into each other. >> yeah, you just actually read my mind and put these things

together. you i okay. thank you so much, aaron. pardon power and new reaction today about what happens if donald trump forgives the crimes of more than 1,000 capitol rioters.

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right now preparations are underway to secure d.c. as tomorrow marks four years since the attack on the capitol. today california democratic senator adam schiff looking ahead to the certification as

president-elect trump weighs pardons for january 6th convicts. >> there is a real solemn occasion for the whole country, but it has another meaning now that we have this terrible violent attack four years ago. for those of us who were there in the capitol, it will be an emotional experience to be back in that environment on that day, but if the president goes forward with pardoning vast numbers of people involved in that violence, he will begin his new administration the way he ended his last administration, and that is by celebrating violence against our democracy. >> and joining us now for more, deputy chief and msnbc legal analyst kristy greenberg and vice president of political strategy for crooked media. glad to see you here. christie, trump said he is going to take the pardons on a case-by-case basis. so not everyone convicted can

expect to get out of their conviction. is there anything prosecutors can do to prepare for these pardons? are there avenues to pursue charges again if trump doesn't decide on blanket pardons? >> not certainly for the current doj because the current doj is going to be handpicked by donald trump. and so they are there to do his bidding. he has been clear, he says the vast majority of the defendants should not be in jail. to put a finer point on it with some numbers, there have been 1,500 defendants charged. 1,100 or so have been convicted, and more than 600 of those have been sentenced. when donald trump says the vast majority should not be in jail, that's a large number. these were individuals who used weapons, guns, batons, pitchforks. there was an explosive device. these are really -- the people who were sentence today prison were sentenced for a reason. these were really, really

serious crimes and a lot of cases violent crimes. you had roughly 140 police officers who were injured here. so i don't think there is much that prosecutors will do because donald trump doesn't want them to. unfortunately, what we are seeing is really a rewriting of history to say these people were heroes seeking to avenge an election rather than a mob of rioters that stormed the capitol and trashed it like a metro room after a concert. that's what we all saw. >> can i also ask you, christie, what can lawmakers and prosecutors that were involved in the january 6th committee do to keep themselves safe from trump potentially going after them? should they all lawyer up? is there any concern their safety tomorrow on the anniversary, do you think? >> i think they should be lawyering up. you have someone who is the nominee for the fbi director position who has a list of enemies. you have, you know, donald trump

and his potential incoming a.g. talking about investigating the investigators, prosecuting the prosecutors. so they would be remiss if they did not lawyer up. but there is one thing that someone could do, and that's joe biden, who is currently our president. he could pardon a lot of these people. now, some of them may not want that, and that's fine. but he is the only one who has the power to right the wrong that donald trump has announced he intends to do. so it's hard to understand why we are clinging to norms of what pardons should look like when the person that is going to come into office has already said he is set to shatter those norms. really makes no sense to me. he should pardon a lot of these people. >> very interesting perspective there. last night the president-elect hosted some of his former lawyers who had a say in trying to overturn the 2020 election results. what message does that send to trump's adversaries and his

allies? >> yeah, i think it reinforces the message he always told us. he cares about himself, the people close to him, that's it. to be celebrating, you know, his first presidency and, you know, just everything that happened, you know, all these convictions and everything, i think -- he doesn't care about the country. tomorrow is january 6th. it's the anniversary of what happened in 2021 and it's, like, it's bad enough that donald trump is being sworn in. now we have to be reminded of how he actually feels about this country. i don't think anyone who cares about this country would essentially order an attack on our capitol. you know, one of the most historic institutions in our country. and, you know, while, you know, i think sometimes i might find -- sound a bit hyperbolic when i talk about donald trump and how bad he is and how much he threat he is, it's important for us to remember just because he is president again does not

mean any of this is normal. he just -- i personally think he hates this country. i think he sees it as -- piggy bank that he can keep getting -- and also all of the people who voted for him, i think he will bring down prices and reverse inflation. none of those things are gonna happen. he will keep inriching himself. i think it's telling his allies keep doing bad things and i will support you and telling the adversaries i will keep doing what i want. >> caring about people who are close to him, as long as they continue agreeing with him. i mean, michael cohen, right? >> yes. >> exactly. so, christie, trump's friday sentencing in the new york hush money case, judge merchan signaled no jail time. but you seem even more pessimistic because yesterday you said you are not sure there will even be a sentencing hearing. will trump get away with his typical delay tactic again or

will merchan say enough is enough? >> i think he will get away with it, not because judge merchan has anything to do with it. i think donald trump is going to do what he has done time and again, which is appeal and see if he can find a higher court that will help him out. we are talking this opinion from judge merchan was issued seven days from when the sentencing is set to occur, and ten days before donald trump is set to take office. so that's not a lot of time here. even judge merchan in his opinion acknowledges the possibility that this sentencing may not happen as he scheduled it. so all trump needs is a ten-day delay of his sentencing and then he can't be sentenced until his term ends. if then. so i think you can see this go even up to an appeal to the supreme court if necessary and i think it will work. we have seen it work time and again. i think it will work given the short timeframe this time as well. >> ultimately, though, does this stain on trump's record affect anything politically for him, or is it more about his pride

carrying the moniker of being a convicted felon the rest of his life if the sentencing happens at which point he is officially a convicted felon? >> yeah. i mean, i don't think it's going to hurt him politically. we knew he was already found guilty of these charges and was still elected president. so i don't think that there is going to be any political consequence. i also don't think he is going to carry any weight of -- you know, having a stain on his record or anything. this is a man who zurnt have any ethics or moral codes. i don't think this is anything that is new. i mean, he is someone who has immunity according to the supreme court for any acts that happen while he is president, and the reason he pushed for that is because he thinks he should be able to do whatever he wants. i think ultimately, you know, history books will say that he was found guilty of these charges, but as far as trump is concerned he is not someone who cares about these things deeply and i think he actually will use it as a badge of honor, an

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we are breaking news as new information revealed a short time ago about the new year's day terror attack in new orleans that killed 14 people.

the fbi saying there is no indication the suspect shamsud-din jabbar worked with others in the attack. authorities also said jabbar traveled to egypt and canada in 2023 and visited new orleans twice recently. >> jabbar made at least two trips to new orleans in the months prior to the attacks. one in october and the other a month later in november. during that time, jabbar using meta glasses recorded a video as he rode through the french quarter on a bicycle. meta glasses look like regular glasses, but they allow the user to record videos and photos hand free. >> let's go to nbc's cathmy park this morning. that last bit of information about the meta glasses, i mean, it's just eerie. what else did you learn from the news conference? >> reporter: yeah, good

afternoon. this is the first significant update from the fbi in regards to the new year's day terror attack here in new orleans. as you mentioned, the suspect, jabbar, acted alone, but we are seeing for the first time chilling images of jabbar walking the french quarter, back in october. it appears he is calmly on his bicycle and these are images that you are looking at now, the authorities blurred out some of the pedestrians who were walking the street. they also shared some images, surveillance footage of him placing two of those coolers and in those coolers were eds, and it's his inexperience that prevented him from debt snatding those ieds. officials are tracing his long travel history domestically and abroad. take a listen. >> this investigation is crossing state and international borders as our agents follow leads in houston, texas,

atlanta, georgia, tampa, florida, and internationally. >> reporter: and officials are saying that they are combing through a lot of evidence. they are getting tips from across the country. so far, they have recovered two firearms as well as a privately made silencer. we also heard a little bit more about the chemicals that were found at those two homes. the home registered to jabbar back in houston, as well as the short-term rental here in the new orleans area. they said that they discovered a chemical known as rdx, which is common and available in the united states. the mayor was also pressed about security here in new orleans, especially on bourbon street in the wake of this attack. she says that they are confident they will secure the area. in fact, she said that they are going to ask a technical expert this week to come in to review some of those vulnerable

targets. as for infrastructure activation, starting tomorrow, of course, ahead of the super bowl next month. mardi gras also coming up as well and the presidential visit tomorrow. he will be here along with the first lady to grieve with those who are mourning the 14 lives lost. >> okay. kathy park, thank you. i will pick up on this right now. joining me, american university professor and the author of the book hate in the homeland, the new global far right, cynthia miller. welcome to you. i am curious your response to the updates from kathy park, that jabbar recorded video with those meta glasses during trips to new orleans before the attack. we're playing film of that video. it has been released by the fbi and we know that the agency did, you know, blur the faces of pedestrians that he encountered there. but give me your thoughts on that. >> well, we see sort of at least two things from the use of the meta glasses. one is that terrorist actors,

extremist actors always innovate, they will always be on the cutting edge of using technology, whether a.i. generated nude undressing apps used to exploit women or things like these meta glasses, you know, that we -- it's very hard to keep up with the bad use of technology that's available. the second thing we see is that clearly was planning going on here. it wasn't spontaneous. there was at least weeks of advanced planning going on here into thinking about the location and target. >> extraordinary. a new nbc news article highlights experts who are saying that the u.s. is in a perfect storm right now radicalization. the threat has never been higher and it comes from a more diverse set of groups. let that set, right? what are the factors brewing this perfect storm? and what is driving this path from radicalization to actual violence? >> we have a couple of things

happening at the same time. one, it's incredibly easy, i mean, everyone is really only two clicks away from bad information, gateways to bad information, kind of at any time online. no matter where you are, bad actors can insert themselves into a comment or a chat in a video game. and it opens up rabbit holes where you can find bad information, manipulative propaganda. so people encounter it much more easily than when you had to be kind of invited into a group or go to a backwoods gathering where there were clear manifestos. on the other hand, there is rising support for political violence on both sides of the aisle. there is a wider range of mobilization from young people who feel there is no political solution to proxy like climate change or health care reform. so we have that's what the perfect storm means, traditional types of idealogical problems and then also newer ones as well. >> in an msnbc.com article you

write the u.s.'s main strategy for preventing terrorism is known as secondary prevention, which focuses on foiling attacks before they happen. other countries put more emphasis on primary prevention and the u.s. would be wiser to invest in this strategy. can you explain the difference and why primary prevention would be a more effective approach? >> well, once you have so much bad information circulating orange and ease with which people can encounter it, along with a wider range of vulnerabilities to it. people are more isolated than ever before. we have got crises of connection among many men. we have three quarters of deaths of despair attributed to men. we have a lot of people who are searching for something, meaning, purpose, belonging. and so in that case you need to intervene in only of those root causes, help peopling more digitally and media literate and address some of the reasons why they feel so angry,

disconnected, and seeking redemption and revenge through violence. that is different than hoping we can stop the attack by building better barricades, which is what we have been doing the last 20 years. >> the main terror threat in america is the lone actor inspired by extremist ideology who may have little or no direct contact with jihadist or far-right groups which appears to be the case with shamsud-din jabbar, who radicalized after a string of personal crises but his motivations remain unknown. does he fit the pro vial of becoming a homegrown extremist? >> absolutely fits the profile, because -- and this has to be articulated with great care, veterans, people with military service are at greater risk often for radicalization to ideologies that they think offer them on the radical fringe a greater sense of purpose, meaning redemption, a place to be heroic, belong to enact that

sense of duty that might have attracted them in the first place. there is a disproportionate problem among veterans, even though the vast majority are peaceful citizens who love their country. i think that's one of the vulnerabilities. he also had a string of personal problems, financial problems, divorces, a lot of things that make someone more vulnerable to looking for a sense of purpose and finding it in bad places. >> okay. cynthia, thank you so much for weighing in. appreciate you. two headlines. one author, a look at the trump sentencing and the future president's potential pardoning of january 6th convicts. fascinating reads. i will talk to the legal mind these in the next hour. in t nher v with arexvy. arexvy is a vaccine used to prevent lower respiratory disease from rsv in people 60 years and older. arexvy does not protect everyone and is not for those with severe allergic reactions to its ingredients. those with weakened immune systems may have a lower response to the vaccine. the most common side effects are injection site pain,

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okay, what is trump looking to do, julie, and is this possible? >> okay. a little wonky. i will break it down. a couple of weeks ago some in trump's orbit led by some of the people who are going to be at the negotiating table for any of these big legislative items, they told house republicans and senate republicans that they prefer this two track system. essentially, using the reconciliation process which enables either party to use a simple majority vote instead of the 60 vote threshold on items related to the budget or tax policy. the trump team wants to do this on immigration, border security, building the border wall, funneling funds for deportation. one of trump's campaign promises ands also to extend trump's signature 2017 tax cut law. originally, the trump team was telling republicans they wanted to do this in two separate tracks. the thing is though a lot of republicans i am talking to were concerned about that because

they have such fragile majorities in the house and senate. they would have to get everyone unified twice. also, there were concerns that passing two massive bills instead of one bill could add to the deficit and not have enough offsets, spending cuts that you hear trump and allies continuously making promises over. that's something that kristen welker pressed john tlun on and here's what he said. >> are you comfortable adding $9 trillion to the national debt? >> i think you have to first off look at what happens if we don't act by the end of the year. that's a $4 trillion tax increase on the american people. that's essentially what you are talking about if we don't extend the 2017 tax law. the president had other suggestions and ideas with respect to he would like to do in the area of tax reform. we will take those into consideration. >> whether it's one track or two tracks, now it seems like one. speaker johnson said the timeline is april or may.

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