divine justice weighs the sins of the cold blooded and the sins of the warmhearted in different scales. better the occasional faults of a government that lives in a spirit of charity than the consistent omissions of a government frozen in the ice of its own indifference. >> if you're looking at those stars, decide what kind of government you want to have. >> and you have to come back before opening day, and we'll have that hour-long conversation about baseball. it's the greatest game ever play. . >> ever played. >> ever. ever. >> happy to. >> i love you so much. i love having a whole hour to marinade -- >> boy, this is very special. >> thank you so much. >> thank you. >> you can navigate all gradefu grateful. thank you for letting us in your home. republicans managed to pick a speaker.

we are already seeing how chaotic this new congress is going to be. in that chaos there will be opportunity for democrats. we will have some specific ideas how they can capitalize. ahead of another anniversary of january 6th he was partying at mar-a-lago with the architects of the plot to steal the 2020 election. i will get the reaction to that. and later, a judge orders trump to appear for sentencing next week. 10 days before he is sworn in. we will tell you what to expect and why it matters. okay, on friday, mike johnson was re-elected as speaker of the house. not without a healthy dose of drama. johnson did not have the votes and for a moment it looked like we might be headed for another

mccarthy-like day in washington. then two of the hold outs decided to vote for johnson. after getting phone calls from trump, sometimes that is how it goes. if you are mike johnson, i think it is safe to say you are breathing a big sigh of relief right now. it easily could have gone another way. and it is important to note before mccarthy's five-day, 15 ballot fiasco. the last time a speaker was not voted on the first ballot was 1993. the speakers are supposed to be boring and predictable. and once again it wasn't. as "the washington post," reported a total of nine house republicans used the vote on friday to show displeasure with johnson in one way or another. and that number significant, remember that number, because that is how many it takes to trigger a vote to remove

johnson in this new congress. congressman chip roy was one of the 9. listen how he basically threatened johnson after voting for him. >> it was very important for a group of us to make clear that we are going to expect the agenda that the president ran on to get through. we are going to be watching them. >> we are going to be watching you, mike johnson. so, his sigh of relief might be a short one it turns out. like a day or two or a couple of days. all of there is one more sign of how chaotic this congress is going to be. buckle up, everyone. mike johnson barely eked out a victory. now he will be in charge of the slimmest house majority in modern history. not to mention the trump of it all or the elon musk of it all. tweeting and that story is not over. it will be messy. that much is very clear at there point.

so, moving forward, one of the things in addition to all of that, one of the other things that i am most interested in, how are the democrats going to take advantage of that. that is the thing about being in the minority. razor thin, it will be unpopular with a majority of the american people. these republicans in congress will be beholding to the whims of not just trump but his buddy elon musk. now, that is a scary place for the country to be, for sure. it also an opportunity for the democratic party. to that point, a new op-ed in the "new york times" from james carville. where democrat sls go from here. that is the question we are all talking about and thinking about. that is something most strategists do not do in this op-ed. he admitted he was wrong. i think there are plenty of

lessons for democrats in congress, too. as for what went wrong carville returns to what may sound like a familiar refrain. it is basically he says we lost for one simple reason, it was, it is, and always will be the economy, stupid. where the party should go from here, he lays out a strategy in a few parts. first to oppose. he writes, quote, we have to stop making trump our focus. our messaging machine must oppose the unpopular republican agenda that will live on past him. the party, not the person, or the extremism of his movement. house republicans have given democrats foughter for that. and the tax cut. not popular across the country. repeal clean energy and provide more resources to carry out

mass deportation. the whole point he is saying don't oppose them because trump supports them, oppose them because they are bad for the country and for you and make that point. the second part of the strategy carville lays out, go on offense. we must be on the offensive with a populous agenda. let's raise the minimum wage and make roe v. wade an issue and let's take back the immigration issue by making it an economic issue and force the gop to deny bipartisan reform for tallent and those that will bring business into our nation. it all sounds smart to me. even if you disagree with some parts of it. it seems like some form of offense. that is how you win. you don't win hiding in a corner. friday's speaker vote was another reminder to everybody watching that republicans

control nearly everything in washington. but it was also a reminder that this is not going to be smooth sailing for them. it is going to be messy. that is why it might be perfect for them to show offense and why they should be put back in power in two years. joining me now is democratic strategist, hopefully i summarized your op-ed well there. i want to start in your piece, specific, i know you want people to pull from it what they may pull from it. one of the things that you talk about is how to oppose policies that the republicans are putting forward or put them on their back heels by forcing them to vote on things that are not popular. how do you do that in the minority? for people at home and not working in the business of politics or washington how can they do that?

>> reporter: first, a shout out to 5:00 a.m. a new show. yes. i will probably get up. i am generally up at that time anyway. i will have a chance to watch that. >> why don't you appear on the first show. should we book you here. are you ready to get up? [ laughter ] >> reporter: so, let's go back and what i think the democrats should focus on, a number of things that have the following criteria. massively popular across the democratic party. secondly massively popular across the united states. among republicans, independ penalties and everybody else. and third, it has to be -- independents and everybody else. and third it has to be something that the republicans can not beef on. they can not do that about minimum wage. they can not beat them on protection for protection for women in roe v. wade that is part of who they are. they can't be doing cat cuts

for people over $400,000 and that i can that money and help people buy or rent a home. this is popular stuff. all we have to do is be there and hammer it home. like i said, three things, massively popular across the party and the country. and the republicans can't beat part of if. ram it home. ram it home. >> ram it home. it is a bumper sticker right there. >> let me ask you. some of there is about what we learned over the last couple of weeks and how to navigate what a republican led congress under speaker mike johnson looks like. what, i just went through what i learned what did you learn about watching the speakers vote and the last couple of weeks with musk and trump and everything that happens. >> i learned more five minutes after the vote. mike johnson sitting in the house and attributed a prayer to tomas jefferson which is a

bold face lie. a bold face lie. they started with a lie and they will continue to lie and they are going to end with a lie. so, let's be very forceful and its be up front here. and, the billionaire clats in this country exercised such power that they got rid of the cartoonist at "the washington post,." they are having editorial sway over a cartoon that runs. i grew up with conrad and erboch. what david, what happened under his watch it is a disgrace to journalism in america. i don't know how he can get up in the morning. >> she quit to be clear. she made a statement. >> . >> reporter: she quit because they let her quit because they did not run the cartoon. i don't blame her for quitting. if you are a journalist if they sat here at msnbc saying you can not say anything bad about

trump tax cuts you are going to walk out of the door. >> no one is telling me that. i can trash it as much. let me ask you, let's go back to congress. an interesting part. not enough attention, kristen welker asked senator schumer about your op-ed. he seemed to agree with you. he gave his thoughts on what they can do differently. i think everybody is thinking about. i want to play that and talk about it with you.. >> we talked about the mechanics of the legislation and the details of the legislation and we really did not show the kind of empathy and concern to average or show enough of it to average working families. so, what we are going to do is spend a lot of time talking to working families, showing them how much we care about them, and not just talk about legislation but talk about the conditions that made so many

working families worried about their futures. >> that sounds pretty good to me. what do you think? >> reporter: i think there is a reason. he understands on the fly that we are not communicating but we need, we need benchmarks to tell people we care about them. america needs a raise. let's raise it to $15. workers are getting the short end of the stick here. let's ask these billionaires to pay the tax rate they pay during the prosperous era in the united states in the 1990s and contribute to young people having a future in this country. let's protect a pregnant woman that works at the walmart in louisiana who already has two kids and would have an economic and emotional burden. stand up for them. not just them, everybody in america wants working people to

make more money than they do. everyone in america wants the rich to pay their fair share. i say everybody, most americans, most americans want to give women and families protection that they had under roe v. wade. this is not easy, people. if is simple. we have to drive it home. >> let me ask you about something. i have been thinking a lot about. one of the things that you write in your piece, struck my mind, got me thinking, too. democratic hopefuls, it should be based on two things. how authentic you are on the podcast. and an important question. and democrats, it is that they talk in consultant dc speak. that it becomes poll-tested language that people are reading off of. how do you break people of that? or do people just have to do it

themselves? >> reporter: well, i think the best way to, you know, they say in the marine corp, there are three ways to lead, by example, by example, by example. i think people like you, experience in this and spokesperson for the white house, doing there and someone like me, he has been around for a long time, listen to him. don't talk in that jargen. i was talking to all of the geniuses in the campaign. i was telling them who were all educated and smarter than i was. don't be too smart here, okay. let's just be authentic and to the point. i think people like you and i can bring this home by example. and don't use that idiotic mpr when you are talking to voters. >> we got to de-academic. we like academics we have to make it less ivy tower.

>> yes. >> calm it down. >> yes, we have to keep working at it. we have to talk more again at some point about how both of our former bosses like to make people plaid and that is part of how they won. we will talk about that. james carville. >> any time, any time. >> thank you. coming up, ahead of another anniversary of january 6th trump celebrates and praises the architects of the plot to steal the 2020 election. that literally happened last night. south carolina congressman is standing by. i will ask him about it, coming up next ask him about it, comi up next gain. ♪far-xi-ga♪ ♪far-xi-ga♪ ask your doctor about farxiga. at betmgm, everyone gets a welcome offer. so whether you're courtside trying to hit the over... ♪far-xi-ga♪ or up here trying to hit the under. whew! or, hitting that win with your crew. ohhh! yes, see defense!

or way up here with a same game parlay. yaw! betmgm's got your back. get your welcome offer. and play with the sportsbook born in vegas. all these seats. really? get up to a $1500 new customer offer in bonus bets when you sign up now. betmgm. download and bet today. ( ♪♪ ) my name is jaxon, and i have spastic cerebral palsy. it's a mouthful. one of the harder things is the little things that i need help with: getting dressed, brushing your teeth, being able to go out with your friends by yourself. those are hard because you don't want help, but you need it. children like jaxon need continued support for the rest of their lives. whoa, whoa, whoa. and you can help.

please join easterseals right now, with your monthly gift. i'm almost there. the kids that you are helping, their goal is to be as independent as they can. these therapies help my son to achieve that goal. easterseals offers important disability and community services that can change a life forever. please, go online, call or scan the qr code right now with your gift of just $19 a month. it really does make a difference. strengthening with easterseals helped me realize i can get through hard things. don't give up. keep trying. even better! please visit helpeasterseals.com, call or scan the qr code on your screen with your gift of $19 a month and we'll send you this t-shirt as a thank you. mother: your help and your support,

the need for it is endless. jaxon: thank you, 'cause there's a lot of people with disabilities out there. people like me. please join easterseals with your monthly gift right now. ( ♪♪ )

let's say you're deep in a show with your monthly gift right now. or a game or the game. on a train, at home, at work. okay, maybe not at work. point is at xfinity. we're constantly engineering new ways to get the entertainment you love to you faster and easier than ever. that's what i do. is that love island? . tomorrow is january 6th. which means, just like four years ago both chambers of congress will meet to count votes and certify the election results. unlike four years ago no one is challenging the results and no

violent mob is expected to stop them. it is remarkable that the man that tried to stop the process and overturn the will of the people is the man whose election they certify. just how trump used this full circle moment, he seems to be reveling in it. last night he partied at mar-a- lago with some of the key figures involved in his attempt to overturn the election. it was a celebration of john eastman, they watched a film called "the eastman dilemma" you might remember he was the lawyer that advocated for the plan for pence to reject it to stop the certification of the results. in the video posted on line that appears to be filmed from the audience last night. trump praised eastman and his efforts in 2020. >> john eastman. that is why they changed the law. nobody wants to talk about that. >> joins me now is jim clyburn.

great to see you congressman. happy new year and thank you for being with me. >> i have so many things to ask you about. i want to start with january 6th. it is so your mind. you were at the capitol that day. praising eastman. we are two weeks away from trump being sworn in and pardoning people who participated in the insurrection. i just wanted to know how you are digesting that reality.. >> reporter: thank you very much for having me. it is a very unnerving moment. i do not believe we will have a repeat of that. we will have a vice president presiding tomorrow who believes in the peaceful transition of the office. and, she will, preside over her own defeat. i saw al gore do that some

years ago. this is what makes america great. not whether or not you have more hits on your social media than someone else or if you can insult more people than the other person, but if you can commitment yourself to maintaining those things that keep us strong as a country and keep us great as a nation. that is what you are going to see tomorrow. a great contrast. i hope the american people will take time-out to watch there tomorrow and hopefully have their faith in this great country renewed. >> such an important reminder. let me ask you about the new congress. just sworn in after a bit of dramatic but not that dramatic vote for speaker. the narrow majority, it is a narrow majority you talked about. you said and others in leadership said on the democratic side you have to work with republicans to get

things done. i think people might be happy to hear. and in addition to keeping the government open. what beyond that? >> reporter: i would think that the speaker ought to put in practice as he presides over the full congress the same thing that he did in order to get elected on the first ballot. he kept the vote open until they can sit down and negotiate in his conference to get the votes he needed. that is what he needs to do as speaker. preside over congress in such a way that when issues of importance comes before the congress give us time give us time to sit down with leaders on the democratic side.

for jeffries and find common ground. to find it 218 votes they needed. to get the deals passed in the house of representatives when you constitute it. it will not be fully need it to get the agenda passed. sit down with the opposing views and find common ground and get it done. he is slowing us that he can do it. let's hope that he will. >> there is an idea that james carville and others and obviously you are part of the minority rule and house in the past. put forward. it is kind of forcing the opposing party on things that are popular in the public. you are long an advocate for. abortion for. are those things that will push forward that jeffries gave a

speech protecting medicare and medicaid. are you hoping to force them to vote on the issues? i think you can explain to the american people the way you can understand it. let me give you one example. all of this talk about medicaid and they are not expanded for medicaid. medicaid, 85%. it is owned by nursing home care t is about every single family in america. medicaid provide. we are going to explain that to people. talking to people, they have no idea that these nursing homes are funded through medicaid. people passing it off as something for low-income people only and does not apply to other families. we got to go to the american people and they got to understand exactly what is in

this legislation and that is what we are not doing a good job of. that is where we have the problem. i agree. to his overall approach to this. i think that we have to spend a little time on the message and the messengers because we all know when it comes to the national party we have the democratic national committee, we have the senate campaign committee, the house democratic campaign. triple c. these are all separate entities and they have to figure out how to get the american people to see how they differ and how they can work together. that is where we are accomplicing it. >> the medicaid piece is an important one. i will promise that we will do

that. let me ask you before you go, i know how close you are to president bidden and how important you are to him. nbc news he plans to deliver two major speeches before leaving office. he has quite a record to stand on. i want to ask you on a personal level what people will remember about his impact of his precedency as we look at the final two weeks of his precedency here. >> reporter: i think you are going to see headlines already about what this president policies have meant for the american people and they are very positive. i have seen op-ed pieces that are saying trump has to thank joe biden for inheriting a country that is good and safe. what is going to happen here is president joe biden will have to wait like harry truman had to wait for the country to give the look back to get a full

understanding. what he was able to do. harry truman just served just a little more over one time. so, he is now judged in the top 10 of american presidents. and with me he is in the top four or five. i think the same thing will happen with joe biden, he had a very consequential term in office. one, i believe, the most consequential in modern history. >> congressman clyburn. thank you very much, great seeing you, thank you for joining me today. judge merchan is asking trump to come in for

sentencing. we have lots of questions. that is next sentencing. we have lots of questions. that is next

there week the judge overseeing trump's criminal fraud case in new york ordered the incoming president to be sentenced next friday. january 10th. if you are doing the math it is 10 days before he takes office. now, in doing so judge mercha, n rejected trump's last-ditch attempt to forego sentencing and dismiss the case all together. he said presidential immunity does not extend to a president elect not in office yet. he ruled out any sentence of incarceration. he suggested he will order an unconditional discharge. that is, trump will not face jail or probation or any other punishment. and given the crime here. that would be unusual under any other circumstance. the "new york times" review of the false records in 2014 revealed no other defendant

received a discharge. they received jail and prison sentences, probation, discharges, community service or fines. former general council with the fbi and former general, i don't know why i have to introduce we know who you are. this was a strongly-worded from judge merchan. anyone who is not a lawyer and wondering what is the point of having a sentencing hearing and not punishing him at all, what is the point? >> reporter: it is strongly worded, jen in two different senses, he says look, trump violated the law, had felony convictions, there jury, this guilty verdict was by a jury it was not handed do you by elites it was a jury of the trump's peers, they listened and no one is is aabove the law.

i am not going to over turn it the jury did it in a fair and impartial way. the judge says i am likely to give an unconditional discharge. as you say means no jail time. it is still important, it is a felony conviction, he will appeal it in a number of ways right now he stands as a convicted felon. sometimes you have felons that do not serve jail time. it is rare but it is possible. >> all right, andrew, i am trying to kind of help explain to all of our viewers, no one better than you two. clearly arriving at on friday or not. >> it gets at the dilemma that the judge had. because the only other real

choice absent giving trump what he wants which is an outright dismissal of the case. the judge rejected that. the language, it is very strong. he called the case premeditated and continued deception by the leader of the free world. nothing about the sentencing takes that away. it is worth remembering if sentenced or not that is what the jury found he did. the judge has said that. the only option for the judge was to put it off until four years from now after donald trump is no longer president. and at that point, even the district attorney's office said jail would not be appropriate. it is a really unusual situation. it is lard to compare it to the other 30 cases that the "new york times" looked at because you would of this four year break. the thing to notice by

sentencing trump this friday he actually will trigger his rights because if this was waiting for four years the normal rules are, trump would have this hanging over his head for his entire precedency. so, in many ways there is a really solid decision gives finality to the district courts. you know, the trial courts to rule here. it is sending a message about this case to the public. >> there were a number of messages in my reading in how judge merchan wrote this. he calls out trump's lawyers. todd blanche, for using language in their filings he says has no place in legal pleadings. these two for common who is not following this. many of you are. are about to have big jobs in the department of justice. let me start with you on this one. the language here, how they

approached us about what we should prepare for, these two individuals who the judge went out of his way to call out are about to have big department of justice jobs. >> reporter: i mean it is a shot across it not just for the lawyers but specifically for trump himself who had done any number, played any number of public statements about the court, about the judge, about the process. that i think the judge was worried about. the statement just a few days ago on new year's eve about attacks on the judiciary destroying its credibility and undermined the safety of the judges. the other thing the judge is not saying he did not do something insignificant and not imposing jail time. rather because a state can not jail a sitting president that,

that option was off of the table. if trump tries to say i am exonerated the way he did to andrew and the others on the mueller report, absolutely not. the judge is just saying by the constitution one state can not undo the whole just like south carolina in 1862 could not put abraham lincoln in jail. so, it is not about the crime it is about the fact that trump was elected and is going to serve as our president. >> we only have 30 seconds here but andrew, you poured over this. anything that we missed that is important for people to understand? >> i think your comment about the lawyering is important because it is slard to see how the new in coming administration at the department of justice is going to uphold the rule of law when one of the things that the judge found, i will quote it is that said it is public record that the defendant has gone to

great lengths to broadcast on social media and other forms his lack of respect for judges, juries, grand juries and the justice system as a whole. so, you know, that is what the justice system and the department of justice that neil and i served in collectively decades. it is hard to see how you have that institutional concern when you have a president who has that record. >> andrew, neil, everybody's favorite legal eagles, thank you very much, happy new year to you both. coming up, republicans were quick to try to use the deadly new orleans terrorist attack to their political advantage. they did not let facts get in their way. i will explain come we come back their way. i will explain come we come back

—i have to find a babysitter. —i have a lot of questions. —when can they start? —today? now? —how about saturday? —are they background-checked? my wife and i haven't been out in a year. we need a date night! no offense. find all the care you need at care.com okay everyone, our mission is to provide complete, balanced nutrition for strength and energy. yay - woo hoo! ensure, with 27 vitamins and minerals, nutrients for immune health. and ensure complete with 30 grams of protein. (♪♪)

( ♪♪ ) the best moments deserve the best eggs. especially when they're eggland's best. taste so deliciously fresh. with better nutrition, too. for us, it's eggs any style. ( ♪♪ ) as long as they're the best. eggland's best. ( ♪♪ ) . right now officials are updating the public on this week's terrorist attack in new orleans. they said there is no evidence that the attacker worked with

an accomplice. they also said agents are still following leads in houston, atlanta, georgia and internationally. they are still gathering the facts. that is important to note. in the immediate aftermath of wednesday's attacks republicans and right wing media did not wait for the facts. they wasted no time and once again resorting to one of their favorite tactics. whipping up fear around immigration. it started with one other source. in the chaotic hours after a man plowed his car through a crowd on bourbon street in the early hours of new year's day, killing 14 people, they claimed the truck used in the attack crossed the border just two days prior to the attack. of course, when they published the report investigators were still trying to piece together who the attacker even was. there was so much they did not know. a couple days ago. that did not stop the next president taking to truth social to blame the terrorist attack on criminals coming into the united states.

now, within minutes, of course, his vice president j.d. vance reposted the claim and soon other republican lawmakers like congresswoman marjorie taylor greene did it. and yes, you can guess what happened next. that initial fox report turned out to be very wrong. shortly after publishing the original report one of fox senior national correspondents walked back the claim saying that the truck actually crossed the border back in november and that the person who drove the truck across the border was not the shooter. that is a pretty key piece of information. soon after fox posted the correction the fbi put out a statement that the attack was a u.s. citizen from texas. and a veteran of the u.s. army. and yet, those crucial new facts did not change the focus of a number of republicans or right wing media. even after the clarification from fox, even after federal law enforcement told the

country the attacker was an american citizen. they continued to link the new year's day attack to the risk of migrants crossing the border. >> the congressional republicans, we here in the house and the senate reportedly asked the dhs under biden administration, the concern about terrorism and the wide open border. the whyed that dangerous people were coming here in droves and setting up potentially terrorist cells across the country. >> close the border. secure our sovereignty. the entire world knows that we have an open border, they intend to hit us. >> when you can not secure your borders and refuse to call out islamic terrorism and punish it you get the events of october 7th, you get the events this past week of new orleans. >> i am more scared of the people pre-radicalized people that come in here that want to kill us all. >> i mean two of those people were speaker to the house second in line to the

precedency and spreading inaccurate information about a terrorist attack in one of america's cities. what happened in the hours after new year's day was horrifying, we should all be clear about that. this was a person who is an american citizen and raised in texas. rather than deal with that incredibly disturbing fact, the president-elect, republicans in congress, many that you just saw in that video and right wing media have been focusing on tying to their preferred narrative about the border. that is not an accident. they know what they are doing. trump and his allies want to stoke these fears facts be and lay the groundwork for their most extreme policies. like their plans for mass round ups and deportation and the ending of birth right citizenship. the job of any president of all of our elected officials is not to lie about tragedies to meet

political ends, the job is to gather the facts and work with local law enforcement to try to understand what happened and why it happened to better protect ourselves in the future. this week was a sobering reminder of a lot of things. one that our next president sees things differently. the former secretary of homeland security and i will ask janet napolitano about all of this when we come back tano l of this when we come back hank used to suffer from what felt like a cold & flu medicine hangover in the morning. ha ha. haha! then he switched to mucinex nightshift. mucinex is uniquely formulated to leave your system faster,

so you wake up ready to go. uhh, hank! try mucinex nightshift and feel the difference. (vo) it's half time, time to go to the bathroom. (man) never slams. shower. (vo) and count how many full baths you have. (man) it's a jack and jill. (vo) selling your home to opendoor is so easy, you can do it during half time. psoriatic arthritis symptoms can be unpredictable. one day, your joints hurt. next, it's on your skin. i got cosentyx. feels good to move. feel less joint pain, swelling and tenderness, back pain, and clearer skin, and help stop further joint damage with cosentyx. don't use if you're allergic to cosentyx. before starting, get checked for tuberculosis. an increased risk of infections, and lowered ability to fight them may occur, like tuberculosis or other serious bacterial, fungal,

or viral infections. some were fatal. tell your doctor if you have an infection or symptoms like fevers, sweats, chills, muscle aches or cough, had a vaccine or plan to, or if inflammatory bowel disease symptoms develop or worsen. serious allergic reactions and severe eczema-like skin reactions may occur. ♪♪ ask your rheumatologist about cosentyx. (♪♪) hey what if we move back... hold on let me think. we need a miracle. miracle starting every thursday starting at 2:45 i love you. i know. find childcare that fits your schedule. learn more at care.com you've got a pepto predicament, ace. you overdid it on the loaded fries. undo it with pepto fast melts. ♪ when you have nausea, heartburn, indigestion, ♪ ♪ upset stomach, diarrhea. ♪ when you overdo it... ...undo it with pepto bismol. there are some feelings you can get with any sportsbook. ohhh! the highs! when you overdo it... no, no, no. the no, no, noooos -

oooooooo! the oh, oh, ohhhhs! now whatcha wanna do with this? but the feeling that, no matter what, you're taken care of. ohhh, i just earned a hotel suite! hee! you only get that here. at the sportsbook born in vegas, where they know how to treat you right. who you talking to jamie foxx? bonus bets. exclusive offers. real world rewards. betmgm. download and bet today. watch your step! that's why visionworks makes it simple to schedule an eye exam that works for you. even if you have a big trip to plan around. thanks! i mean, i can see you right now if that's...convenient. visionworks. see the difference. power e*trade's award-winning trading app makes trading easier. with its customizable options chain, easy-to-use tools, and paper trading to help sharpen your skills, you can stay on top of the market from wherever you are. e*trade from morgan stanley. .

as is relates to this investigation, all investigative details and evidence that we have now still support that jabbar acted alone here in new orleans. we have not seen any indications of an accomplice in the united states. >> that was moments ago at a press conference in new orleans where officials say there is still no evidence that the attacker acted with any accomplices but they also said they are still chasing leads all over the country and international. this is normal and what happens with law enforcement. joining me now is janet napolitano. he just said there is no evidence of an accomplice. still chasing plenty of leads, what other questions do you happening officials are grappling with right now? what questions are top of mind for you right now? >> reporter: well, i think one

of the fundamental questions with jabbar is how did he go from being a seemingly normal citizen, military member, to adopting a very radical form of islamic faith to the extent of the violence that he committed. what was that radicalization process? could it have been picked up earlier? order to prevent the acts that he committed? >> such an interesting part of this. i just talked briefly right before we were talking about how when you are blaming it on people coming over the border which is not what happened in this case, you are taking your eye off exactly that. that is something that people should pay attention to. i wanted to ask you a little, you dealt with law enforcement so much and the challenges that they are facing all of the time. it is significant. and, one of the challenges they are facing under trump is the spreading of information that is not tied to what the law

enforcement officials are actually finding in investigations. the pace or what their conclusions are. can you talk to us a little bit about the impact that it has on local law enforcement efforts when they are just trying to do their job, get to the bottom of it and the pace is sometimes not what people want it to be but it is what it is in these p processes. >> reporter: it is what it is. the immediate reaction or misinformation that it was somehow related to the border a minimum a huge distraction from the real investigative efforts that need to be undertaken that are more difficult than simply throwing out that the problem is related to the border. as if ever problem is related to the border. we know it is not true. the border deserves to be defended and respected. but it is not the cause detra of all of these things that have happened the whole radicalization process is very

difficult for law enforcement, generally, local, state, federal. so-called lone wolf, the person that does not act in concert with anyone else. so, there are no communications to intercept, there is no way to get an informant inserted. those kinds of investigative methods do not work with a lone wolf. you have a combination of trying to understand what is still, i think, a mystery to most in law enforcement, all of law enforcement, actually, the radicalization process. but, also, the lone wolf phenomenal. >> and this is all happening with a backdrop of trump nominated a number of people to serve in positions of government and national security roles, i want to ask you about your former role because he nominated a former governor, kristi noem. to me this focuses why we need more vetting and why there should be questions asked at

the hearings that are significant. what are you hoped she is asked at the hearing as they are making a decision to be the right person to serve as secretary? >> reporter: well, i think she needs to be asked what she understands about the department of homeland security and how she would prioritize the many, missions of the department. then i am sure she will get a lot of questions about immigration and border enforcement. that goes with the job. so does fema. how does she intend to protect fema from misinformation about claims that it is politicalized, the relief process as we saw in north carolina this past fall. what does she want to do about the protection of the nation's critical infrastructure from cyberattacks that are many and very varied. how does she intend to relate

to the white house? independent judgment or do what the advisories tell her to do? how will she manage a department? the department is the size of almost 10% of her total state's population. and it is spread all over the country in many foreign countries as well. what management skills or techniques does she intend to bring to bear as a cabinet secretary. >> some good advise for people prepping for the hearings there. thank you very much for joining me. we will be right back much for me. we will be right back spray goodbye. aaaaaaahhhhh! new mucinex 2-in-1 saline nasal spray with a gentle mist and innovative power-jet. spray goodbye to congestion. it's comeback season!

i've lost 228 pounds on golo. i'm able to enjoy my life and keep off the weight. that's why golo works so well for me. golo has been really empowering for me. i just recently purchased my first swimsuit since high school. golo's different. it's smarter, it's better. it will change your life forever. golo is the only thing that gave me this. it gave me back me. go lose weight, go look great, and go love life. head to golo.com. that's g-o-l-o dot com. if you have heart failure or chronic kidney disease, farxiga can help you keep living life, because there are places you'd like to be. (♪♪)

serious side effects include increased ketones in blood or urine and bacterial infection between the anus and genitals, both which may be fatal, severe allergic reactions, dehydration, urinary tract or genital yeast infections, and low blood sugar. stop taking and tell your doctor right away if you have nausea, vomiting, stomach pain, tiredness, rash, swelling, trouble breathing or swallowing. tell your doctor about lightheadedness, weakness, fever, pain, tenderness, redness or swelling between the anus and genitals. ask your doctor about farxiga today. ♪ far-xi-ga ♪ (♪♪)

z's bakery is looking to add a pizza oven, ♪ far-xi-ga ♪ arissa's hair salon wants to expand their space, and steve's t-shirt shop wants to bring on more help. with the comcast business 5-year price lock guarantee, they can think more about possibilities for their business and not the cost of their internet. it's five years of gig-speeds and advanced security. all from the company with 99.9% network reliability. get the 5-year price lock guarantee, now back for a limited time. powering five years of savings. powering possibilities™. that does it for me today, stay right where you are, there is much more news coming up on msnbc. more news coming up on msnbc. . on this new hour of ayman. tomorrow marks four years since the insurrection. it is a day we will not forget, no matter how