tv The Rachel Maddow Show MSNBC January 6, 2025 9:00pm-10:00pm PST
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my first language, all my brothers know it and my little sister. i'm very excited to be here, yeah, excited for my family and everything. >> and i'm very excited that someone on twitter shared this story with us tonight and made it our last thing. sign of love, ozzie played his first nhl game friday night for the national predators. during warm-ups he tossed a puck up to his hero, his mother kim. this moment was a long time in the making. kim is a single mother of five. she happens to be deaf and she has worked multiple jobs for years and years to help support the dreams of ozzie and his siblings. her kids call her a superhero and say everything they do in this world is for her, kim, their mother. so congratulations to kim and to ozzie. they both should be very, very proud. i love that story. and i love this other thing
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i need to share before we go. i must give a shout out to my dear friend and colleague, the one and only ali vitali. she's bringing all her political expertise and magic to you at home as the new host of "way too early" weekdays at 5:00 a.m. eastern. you can just pull all nighters. stay with me from 11:00, kick it all night and then stay up with her at 5:00 a.m. right here on msnbc. congratulations to ali on the new gig and to viewers at home, you are in for a treat. on that note, i wish you all a very good night. from all of our colleagues across the networks of nbc news, thanks for staying up late. i'll see you at the end of tomorrow. thanks to you at home for joining us this hour, happy to have you here, glad you're with us. so gearhard marks was his name, a very famous sculptor, considered to be one of the greatest european sculptors of
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the 20th century. he was german, though, and during the third reich when he was making his art, the nazis decided his art was degenerate. he wasn't jewish, but he was fired from his teaching job in germany after he tried to protect his students from the nazis and protested the teachers being removed from their posts at the school where he taught, so he lost his job as well. the nazis banned him from showing his work, from selling his work. they confiscated some of his sculptors and melted them down saying they needed to make weapons for the german army. it was a bit of a miracle gearhard marks survived world war ii in germany, but he did. it's more of a miracle that some of his sculptures survived
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world war ii in germany, but they did. not long after the end of world war ii in 1949 one of his surviving sculptures actually came to the united states. there was a big important international sculpture show in philadelphia in 1949 and gearhard marks brought this statue to that show. it is seven feet tall. it's called maja and it's considered to be the monumental work, but also representative of his style. it's exactly the kind of expressive modernist but very human thing that the nazis hated about gearhard marks and his art. that said, philadelphia loved it. the big public art association in philly that had put on the sculpture show bought the sculpture from him and for years it had pride of place. it overlooked the big famous terrace at the philadelphia museum of art. a few years ago they moved maja
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to a new and probably permanent home. she's still in philly, but the art association put her through a full conservation and renovation process and they built a park for her. it opened in 2021 and it's called maja park and she is the centerpiece of this public space in philly right there in the benjamin franklin parkway. it's kind of a lovely spot. just before the election this year somebody unexpectedly and without a permit, definitely without permission, put up a new sculpture right near maja in that same park. it was near to the gearhard marks sculpture, behind her, in fact. actually the way it was set up it's kind of leering at her and here is a donald trump statue. somebody put up this donald trump statue in maja park in philly just before the election and it is a statue of trump,
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but it is not like a statue honoring trump, at least not except in a very backhanded way. there's a plaque at the base of the trump statue that has a little relief of trump on the top with the american flag and it says in all caps, "in honor of a lifetime of sexual assault. i just start kissing them. it's just like a magnet, just kiss. i don't even wait and when you're a star, you don't need to wait. you can do anything. grab them by the -- you can do anything, president donald j. trump." that statue with that plaque went up in philadelphia park before the election. city workers quickly took it down because it didn't have permission. it was there without a permit. around the same time, though, all the way across the country on the west coast in portland, oregon, there was another one. in this case it was near a
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statue by a seattle-based sculptor named norman taylor. this sculpture has been in portland, oregon, on southwest sixth avenue downtown since 1975, relatively famous local statue in portland. this is also a bronze statue. its name had, i will not try to pronounce for you, the norwegian word for female nude. this is a well known thing in portland, downtown portland. about the same time that the kind of gross trump statue went up near to the maja statue in philly, that same trump statue with the same plaque went up here in portland as well near that other statue of a nude woman. "in honor of a lifetime of sexual assault." now both these statues went up just before the election. in philadelphia, as i mentioned, it was just city workers who took it down because there was no permit for
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it. in portland somebody cut the statue's head off and then a local pro trump politician in portland took a hammer and chisel to the plaque with trump's quote on it and to the title about sexual assault. that's what happened in portland. then there was the one that went up at the donald j. trump state park in yorktown heights, new york, which is i think about 50 miles north of new york city. this was a different statue, but it went up around the same time as the two leering statues of trump with the quote about sexual assault. this one in the trump park, however, was a different message. it was a big giant pillar and then you see others like a teeny tiny little thing up on top, this huge pillar with a big plaque on it and a teeny little thing on top of it is a tiny little mushroom and this one again has an explanatory plaque. this one was titled "the very
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large donald j. trump monument" in all caps on top and below that it says, "this giant pillar pays tribute to president trump. as you can see, this is a very large monument, definitely the largest. despite this towering statue's impressive size, the president's former miss mistress said the president had a smaller than average monument and claimed it was unusual similar to a mushroom. she described her interaction with his monument as the least impressive i've ever had." the plot continues. the circumstances surrounding her statements have been verified by a new york state court of law. this towering monument stands in defiance of these false statements so that we may all bear witness to the truth of this giant very normal monument. again, a teeny tiny little mushroom at the bottom of the plaque and at the top of the
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very large pillar. of course, donald trump continues to deny ever having had a sexual encounter with stormy daniels. he is due to be sentenced this week, friday after he was convicted of 34 felony charges relating to him falsifying business records to cover up the secret payment he made to her to try to stop her from speaking publicly about what she says was their sexual encounter and all of its variously unpleasant, unsettling or in some cases pitiful details. so there's the leering trump in philly, the leering trump in portland, the teeny tiny mushroom in trump state park in new york. then there was also this again just before the election, a giant tiki torch put up in freedom plaza near the white house. the plaque with this one explained that it was essentially commemorating trump's praise for the white nationalists and neonazis who
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marched with tiki torches in charlottesville, virginia, saying things like jews will not replace us. somebody later destroyed the tiki torch statue in d.c. by smashing it to bits with a skateboard. not sure exactly what was going on there. all these works of art went up right before the election and of all of them the one that got the most attention was actually another one that went up in d.c. nearby to the tiki torch statue, but specifically it was on the national mall. it actually stayed up on the national mall for kind of a long time. it went up in late october and stayed up through the election. the people who made it apparently properly went through the formal process of getting a permit to have this thing put up and stood up on the national mall so it was fully legal to be there and it was there for a while. this one on the national mall got the most attention not only because of where it was right there amid the monuments and everything on the mall in
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washington, but it also got attention because of what it was. the statue that went up on the national mall before the election was as funny and shocking as all the rest of them, but the one on the national mall was also a little unnerving in a different way. the sculpture that went up on the national mall just before the election was made of bronze. it was a desk that had some normal desk stuff on top all cast in bronze. it had a landline phone and post-it notes and file folders and maybe like a calculator or something else that size and shape, but then prominent, pride of place on top of the desk, there's a nameplate showing that this is a representation of a desk in the office of former speaker of the house nancy pelosi and right next to the nameplate on top of the desk cast in bronze is a big bronze larger than life
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version of the poop emoji plopped there right on top of the desk and once again, there's a plaque. it says, "this memorial honors the brave men and women who broke into the united states capitol on january 6, 2021 to, loot, urinate, and defecate throughout those hallowed halls in order to overturn an election. president trump celebrates these heroes of january 6th as "unbelievable patriots and warriors." this monument stands as a testament to their daring sacrifice and lasting legacy. their lasting legacy, a bronze turd left on the national mall a few days around the election. seems about right actually, seems about perfect. and, of course, this is funny obviously if you're like me and have an 8-year-old sense of humor permanently for your whole life.
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literally anything involving a poop emoji or any reference to poop is always going to make you life. i will admit it. i am a complete slave to poop humor, absolutely, but in addition to this being funny, i think the reason this one is equally funny and unnerving is because of the inherent juxtaposition, right, because this really is cast in bronze amid all the very serious stuff on the national mall. we've got the plaques marking the historic sites and the big marble memorials and the cast bronze sculptures that are part of these memorials. so they have a big version of the poop emoji in that context is funny, but it's also like a bad juxtaposition. it's repulsive, right? you go back to the plaque, what it says about the hallowed halls of the capitol and people breaking in to loot, urinate and defecate inside those hallowed halls. that is, in fact, what happened
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on january 6th and these are things that should not go together, right? it's gross. it feels like whatever the civic version is of sacrilegious. it's repulsive to think of the hallowed halls and people doing that inside them. it's repulsive. i think that's sort of both how we're supposed to feel as citizens. i think it's how americans generally do feel about mixing the violence and politics, right? when the two do get mixed together, it turns our stomach, doesn't feel like something that's supposed to happen. we don't know whether to laugh at it or kind of point and run, but it feels wrong. here's another example. this is something that's on videotape. this is 2018 in south florida in coral gables, florida. >> look at nancy pelosi right here. look at this piece of [ bleep ]
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right here. look at this piece of [ bleep ] pelosi right here. you don't belong here, you [ bleep ] communist. get the [ bleep ] out of here. get the [ bleep ] out of here. [ bleep ] you and your [ bleep ] democrats! >> so this happened at an event for a democratic congressional candidate in 2018. speaker of the house then nancy pelosi was there. the local republican party in miami-dade county called for a protest at the event and this is what their protest looked like. >> what the [ bleep ]. bleep ]. what's up, brother? >> open up! the proud boys are here. >> open up.
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it's the proud boys in here. two things to know about this. the first thing to know is that when that guy says hey, it's the proud boys here, he's right. the guy who was apparently filming that piece of video, the guy credited with having filmed that piece of video, is enrique tarrio, the national head of the proud boys pro trump paramilitary group. enrique tarrio at the time lived in south florida. he now lives in prison after being sentenced to seditious conspiracy for 22 years. sedition is trying to overthrow the u.s. government. enrique tarrio wrote to president-elect trump asking him to pardon him. his family has been counting down the days till trump is sworn in as president because they're convinced enrique
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tarrio will be one of the january 6th felons who trump pardons on the day of his inauguration. so that's one thing to know about that video of what happened that day in coral gables. the guy shooting the video and screaming at nancy pelosi, filming people pounding on the door to try to intimidate her saying, "the proud boys are there," that guy is now in prison for trying to overthrow the u.s. government, but the other thing to know about that video is the guy he's actually filming doing the pounding on the door, this guy in the red circle, he has just been named by donald trump as his choice to be the next u.s. ambassador to the nation of panama because apparently that is what our country is looking for in an ambassador now. will you make yourself a physical menace for donald trump? now that man who is now donald trump's ambassador pick, after
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this happened in coral gables he later defended his conduct there saying he was just exercising his right to protest. at the time it happened in 2018 republicans were quite embarrassed by it. the head of the miami-dade republican party apologized for being there, distanced himself from the proud boys. other republicans, including florida senator marco rubio condemned the actions, said republicans should never do anything physically intimidating like this. well, now marco rubio's about to be nominated to be donald trump's secretary of state. where the guy founding pounding on the door trying to scare nancy pelosi, that guy will be reporting to marco rubio as one of america's next u.s. ambassadors. and the reason that's repellant, the reason it's sort of instinctually repulsive to us is because there's supposed to be a sharp line that keeps
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violent intimidation on one side of the line and politics on the other and never the two shall meet. in a democratic country those things are supposed to be separate. so today, january 6th, the certification of the last presidential election happened in washington and it just happened ministerial and ceremonially like it's supposed to and that contrast with what happened today versus what happened four years ago makes clear the profound difference between the two parties, right? had democrats won the presidential election this year, the whole country openly expected and was preparing for republicans to go into violent, if not armed, revolt, but because instead republicans won, everyone expected and, in fact, we saw today that democrats would peacefully
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accept and participate in the transfer of power. when a whole country expects guaranteed violence if one side loses in an electoral contest, then the two political parties in that contest are no longer competing in democratic terms anymore. one of those parties is a small d and capital d democratic party. the other party is something else. so that is part of what we are contending with on this january 6th. how do we ever get our democracy back now because we have in effect lost it? how do we ever get back to competition in democratic terms which means specifically how do we get the republican party and the trumpist right to no longer see physical force and armed conflict as the way they're going to get their way and hold power? one big step backwards from that as a goal will be trump's promised pardons of the people who committed violence in his name on january 6th, 2021, the
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ones who earned themselves that bronze statue of nancy pelosi's desk on the national mall that briefly memorialized the physically repulsive and scatological nature of their actions inside the capitol. the argument now appears to be in republican circles not whether trump is going to issue pardons to people who took part in that attack on the capitol, but how many? will he pardon them all or some? that has led publications as diverse as the huffington post and the "wall street journal" to try to resurface the details of the crimes for which some of these people were convicted to try to make it seem even to trumpist republicans maybe these convictions were sound and should stand. "andrew taakp pepper sprayed police officers defending the capitol on january 6, 2021, and
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hit one with a metal whip. christopher alberts hit police officers with a wooden pallet and is serving an 84 month sentences. steven cappuccio held his cell phone in his mouth so he could beat an officer using both hands including with the officer's own baton. he's doing 85 months at the federal prison in arkansas. all three will be back on the streets if donald trump, the man who incited them and some 2,000 others to attack the capitol in the first place, follows through on his repeated pledge to pardon the january 6th insurrectionists. of those serving a year or more in prison, a full 57% are there following a conviction in cases involving an assault on a police officer. in all, 83% serving a year or more were convicted of committing an act of violence which means that with few
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exceptions the only people trump could release from prison with his pardons are those who attacked a police officer, possessed weapons or explosives, or were convicted of some other violent felony. are those going to be the ones he springs? here was the deeply conservative "wall street journal" editorial page today. it's titled "trump's pardon promise for january 6 rioters." does it include the ex-meth trafficker who brought a metal baton and swung it at police? "on december 20th a prison sentence of 48 months was given to a 31-year-old man named joshua lee atwood who pled guilty to assaulting law enforcement. he emptied a can of pepper spray at police, beat them with a pole and pelted them with objects, such as a metal scaffolding pipe. he yelled that the cops were pieces of -- the prosecution's sentencing memo said his
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criminal history includes a pending felony case for an alleged stabbing. a 60 month sentence was given to michael bradley, age 50, who apparently went to the capitol on january 6th with his own metal baton in a hip holster. he swung it at police more than once. his priors includes a conviction in 2002 for meth trafficking. another threw an equipment lid that beaned a cop causing momentary loss of consciousness and a concussion. a 41-year-old man pled guilty to scuffling with police while attempting to seize an officer's baton while shouting come out here, b-word. other cases include accusations of ramming the police line, punching cops and walloping riot shields with a baseball bat. "this was the brutal reality of the capitol riot many want to forget. pardoning such crimes would contradict mr. trump's support
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for law and order." oh. "and it would send an awful message about his view of the acceptability of political violence done on his behalf." as i mentioned, this is the "wall street journal's" editorial page, deeply conservative. i would take issue there with their characterization of mr. trump's support for law and order. he has repeatedly praised the idea of violence in his name for every year that he has been in public life. so i would take issue with that. that said, that last line i read there from the "wall street journal" is absolutely correct. "it would send an awful message about trump's view of the acceptability of political violence done on his behalf." the acceptability of political violence done for him in his name. this january 6th, yes, we have got very blunt evidence of the profound difference between the democratic party offering
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democratic competition, win or lose, and the republican party's threat of violence to hold power. and yes, there is also the unnerving and occasionally unsettling fight to remember what actually happened, to be real about how disgusting it all was while the trump movement and the republican party and conservative media tries to say the january 6th attack was really just a bunch of heroes who were so peaceful and loving and they've just been wrongful persecuted for doing nothing wrong. the effort to remember and to stick to the truth of what happened there and not be gaslit and lied to that it was some sort of day of love and peace is unnerving and unsettling and occasionally hilarious, but there is also a very practical question at hand this january 6th , which is what happens to the future of political
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violence in our country in the very short term, in like the next year, if the people who committed violence on trump's behalf are sprung from prison by him and celebrated as vindicated heros who did nothing wrong starting two weeks from today when trump takes office again? think about this in big picture terms. why does a leader who celebrates violence against his critics and his enemies want not just a government, not just the state to do his bidding, he also wants his mob? he also wants his paramilitary groups, people who have proven themselves willing to commit violence on his behalf. why does he want the mob? why does he want his paramilitary groups? why does he want his violent ex- cons? he wants to set them all free at the start of his presidency so they can do what for him? the idea there is permeability
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between violence and politics, that an incoming president might want a deniable nongovernment violent force that he can activate or direct to do his bidding, that what is supposed to be civic hallowed ground might be fouled by rioting and looting and people doing what they did in trump's name on january 6th. that is supposed to repel us and disgust us indelibly. we are never supposed to acclimate to that, but the trump side has and this artwork was temporary. so now this january 6th what should we be prepared for next with two weeks left before he's back in power? i know just who to ask next.
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this is republican congressman andrew clyde. >> watching the tv footage of those who entered the capitol and walked through statuary hall showed people taking videos and picks. if you didn't know the footage was video from january the 6th, you would think it was a normal tourist visit. >> a normal tourist visit said republican congressman andrew clyde. is this you, republican congressman andrew clyde? is this you, the guy in the red circle holding up a piece of furniture to try to barricade the house floor while all those normal tourists were trying to break down that door january 6th? if this is the way you react to every normal tourist visit to the capitol, remind me to never be a tourist near you, looks dangerous. for what it's worth, congressman clyde has repeatedly said those remarks were taken out of context, but he declined to answer questions about what the proper context might be.
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also consider his colleague, republican congresswoman nancy mace. >> it was a sad day for our nation. i was shocked. i was heartbroken and i was angry by seeing this violent mob. how do we hold a president accountable that put all of our lives at risk? >> how do we hold a president accountable that put all of our lives at risk, how? turns out if your name is congresswoman nancy mace, you endorse that president to be president again after he did the thing that made you so angry and afraid for your life? nancy mace was so committed to holding that guy accountable, she actually endorsed trump over nikki haley who is not only from her homestate of south carolina, haley is her constitute went and lives in her district. want one more? here's one more. >> this has been a truly tragic day for america. violence in any form is absolutely unacceptable.
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it is anti-american and must be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. >> it is anti-american and must be prosecuted to the fullest extent -- you see where this is going for now, right? right? >> i have concerns about the treatment of january 6th hostages. >> they must be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. i mean they're hostages. we must free them. it is one thing to sugarcoat the facts of what happened on january 6th , 2021. it's another thing entirely to contradict your own personal individual assessment of what happened that day, especially when it didn't happen all that long ago. it is a phenomenon that is funny and embarrassing, but it's not slowing down on its own just because it's funny and embarrassing. it requires a pushback, some of which it's getting today from people like congresswoman zoe lofgren, a democrat who was one
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of the january 6th investigators in congress saying today, "i have no respect for donald trump, but i do have respect for the process and american voters. he was elected president and we will certify that election today. the funny thing is some of the these members the day after january sixth four years ago were condemning trump and decrying the violence. now it's sort of as if it didn't happen. so a lesson in propaganda, if you will, but ultimately it will not succeed and i have faith in america." joining us now congresswoman zoe lofgren, democrat from california. thank you for being here. >> happy to be here. >> when you say it won't work. it will not succeed. i have faith in america, can you share with me the reason for that optimism. >> well, you can't undo history, rachel, as you know. one of the good things that our january 6th committee did was to document everything that we found and then to post it
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freely available. you can go to the government printing office website and all of the material is there. there's videos. there's radio traffic transcripts, et cetera, and so you can just click on the exhibits and see the riot. it's right there. i would encourage people who post on x or read things if you see some of these ridiculous things that republican members are saying, it was just a tourist visit, just take a 20 second clip of the riot from the government printing office website and let that be your reply because in the end what happened is what happened. luckily and i'm so grateful to the capitol police, i've been touching base with members who were hurt on that day and their family members, just to let them know how much i appreciate what they did. they saved my life. they saved the democracy and
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they are appreciated and some of this nonsense that's being said by my colleagues, they know they're lying, it doesn't undercut the heroism they showed that day and the significance of what they did. so in the end the truth will out. >> you say that they know they're lying. you described it i think powerfully today as this being a lesson in propaganda. what do you think is the purpose of this propaganda effort, the purpose of these lies? what is the end game for denying january 6th happened the way that we know it did? >> well, it's what trump wants, number one. remember the day after he issued really a video apology. we can't makuta go away either, can we? now he knows he was wrong and
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he can never be wrong, we have to turn the facts upside down and make it seem as if it didn't happen and unfortunately, some of my cult- like colleagues are willing to accommodate him in that effort to try and clean up the mess that he did on that day, the violence that he encouraged. he summoned the mob knowing they were armed. he sent them down to the capitol to overturn the election essentially a coup. police officers stopped them. we came close, but democracy survived that day and i will say i don't like donald trump. i don't respect him, but he was reelected president and so we did what our job was today, which was to count the electoral count votes and certify the obvious, that he won. i'm sorry that that's what voters chose, but it's their decision, not the congress'
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decades. the largest u.s. military task force in central america operates out of this base. this is the base where u.s. presidents and vice presidents have flown into and been received by honduran officials for more than 40 years. the capital is a big part of america's military footprint in central america, but it is not technically an american base. the base belongs to honduras and the u.s. just uses it under a longstanding agreement with that country's government. well, just a few days ago in a new year's day address to her country, the president of honduras said that the united states is not going to be able to use that anymore. she said if donald trump starts mass deportations of immigrants when he takes office, honduras effectively reserves the right to kick the u.s. military out of that base which has more than 1,000 u.s. personnel at it right now that we've been using
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for decades. she said, "faced with a hostile attitude of mass expulsion of our brothers, we would have to consider a change in our policies of cooperation with the united states, especially in the military arena. without paying a cent for decades, they maintain military bases in our territory which in this case would lose all reason to exist in honduras." that news from honduras comes on the heels of some other really interesting news from the vatican. today pope francis appointed a new archbishop for washington, d.c. washington, d.c. is not the biggest catholic diocese in the country, but it's very influential for all the obvious reasons and for this very influential postpone francis chose cardinal robert mcelroy. the cardinal mcelroy is known as an outspoken defender of immigrants. in 2016, for example, after donald trump was first elected mcelroy said, "if the new trump administration was going to embark upon the pathway of
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massive deportation, then the catholic community must move immediately to wide scale opposition and we must move with the same energy, commitment, and immediacy that have characterized catholic opposition on the issues of abortion in recent years." of the threats of mass deportations by trump, the bishop said, "the church could never cooperate with such a grave evil in our society. we must label this policy proposal for what it is, an act of injustice which would stain our national honor in the same manner as the progressive dispossessions of the native american peoples of the united states and the internment of the japanese." welcome back to washington, president trump. that's your new archbishop. the closer we get to inauguration day, the more we are learning about the character of the pushback that is materializing against what
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trump says he wants to do. that list also includes one state attorney general who now says there's a very specific part of what trump has threatened to do that he's already planning his fight against. that official joins us live here next. also known as eros, and relieve related heartburn. voquezna is the first and only fda-approved treatment of its kind. 93% of adults were healed by 2 months. of those healed, 79% stayed healed. plus, voquezna can provide heartburn-free days and nights. and is also approved to relieve heartburn related to non-erosive gerd. other serious stomach conditions may exist. don't take if allergic to voquezna or while on rilpivirine. serious allergic reactions include trouble breathing, rash, itching, and swelling of face, lips, tongue, or throat. serious side effects may include kidney problems, intestinal infection, fractures,
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one according to a list compiled by axios. end the russia-ukraine war, day one, nearly three years of grinding conflict. trump says he will settle it in a day. also pardon the people who attacked the capitol on january 6th , day one. he says he'll get going on that in the first nine minutes. begin mass deportations day one, round up at least 11 million people living in the united states. also end birthright citizenship. birthright citizenship is the idea if you're born here, you're a citizen. it's something that isn't just a basic idea about who says an american, it's explicitly and indelibly in the constitution, but trump says he plans to just cancel that day one. that is being met with the promise of a fight from one state's top law enforcement official, from the attorney general of connecticut. attorney general william tong saying, "i would be the first
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to sue. it is beyond clear what the law states." joining us now is william tong, attorney general of the great state of connecticut. mr. attorney general, thanks for your time tonight. >> thanks, rachel. >> so what was it about this day one pledge, this birthright citizenship pledge that trump is making, that grabbed your attention? >> well, it's very personal for me and millions of americans. like millions of americans, my parents came here with nothing. my dad had 57 cents left in his pocket, to be exact, when he arrived in hartford, connecticut. they opened a chinese restaurant and when i was born, they were not yet citizens. i was the first american born in my immediate family and in one generation i've gone from working with my parents in our hot chinese restaurant kitchen to being the attorney general of our state and that was all made possible by a right of my birth, the right to be an american citizen, a right that's given me an opportunity
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to have the education, the employment opportunities, the jobs that i've had that have given me the opportunity to run for office. it is the enduring promise of america. it's what ronald reagan referred to. birthright citizenship has a part of our essential character and it's core of the american dream. >> trump seems to think he can undo it with some sort of executive action despite the fact that birthright citizenship is in the constitution. how do you expect this fight to unfold if he tries to do what he says he's going to try? >> well, i know my fellow attorneys general are committed to stopping him. we're going to be a firewall for the american people, for immigrants, for not just on immigration, but also reproductive freedom, for the environment, against gun violence. we are going to use the law as a sword and as my friend tish james says also as a shield to protect our states and the 14th amendment is very clear. if you're a conservative, if you're an originalist, if
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you're a texturallist, the 14th amendment means what it says, that if you're born on american soil or under the jurisdiction of the united states of america, you're an american, period. and the supreme court confirmed that in wong kim mark, celebrated supreme court case, more than 125 years ago. >> there is an ugly and underappreciated history in this country of trying to strip people of their citizenship when they come under fire by one political faction or another. it has never succeeded before. i have a feeling we'll be seeing you and your fellow attorneys general fighting another successful fight along these lines, sir. keep in touch with us as this unfolds. i'll be eager to see how the strategy works here. >> thank you, rachel. >> connecticut attorney general william tong. we'll be right back. stay with us. wax figure of myself. cool right? look at this craftmanship. i mean they even got my nostrils right.
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