their era and mirrors of their era. and jimmy carter's america is pretty far away. and i think a lot of us will be thinking as we watch these events that we would like it to be a little closer. >> thank you all for these remembrances, john, jim, jill and ted. and we'll be seeing you in washington at the services. that does it for andrea mitchell reports on thursday. special coverage of president carter's funeral services. i'll be reporting live from outside the service all day. all morning. and, right now, chris reports is up next. , chris reports is up next. good day. i am chris jansing live in new york city. breaking news, new donald trump

legal drama less than two weeks before his inauguration . right now and appeals court is hearing arguments to block sentencing in his hush money case plus the latest on the fight after there is a two- volume report written by jack smith. will it be released for the public to read? plus from peanut farmer to president, we remember jimmy carter as the late president returns to washington one last time. the elaborate tributes plan today for a man held firm to his humble georgia roots. >> big changes coming to facebook and instagram and billions of users around the world. why meta said it is ditching its fact checking program in this new political landscape. a very busy day and we start with a major development and donald trump legal cases. right now a new york appeals court is hearing trump's

argument for a delay in the sentencing of his hush money case which, at the moment is scheduled for friday which would be 10 days before his inauguration. in florida judge cannon has temporarily blocked the release of a final report from special counsel jack smith about evidence that have now been dismissed. the federal election interference case. trump praising him for how he did this special counsel. >> we had a brilliant judge and we won the case and a brilliant judge with great courage. the radical left as we call them, they have a way -- they play the referee and play it very hard and they go and say horrible things about judges and prosecutors. some judges and prosecutors say look, the only way i will get these people off my back is give victory to them. but the judge in florida, judge cannon was a brilliant and tough and did not stand for it. >> join me now is peter baker a

political analyst with msnbc and catherine christian is a former district attorney in manhattan and msnbc legal analyst and joining me is lisa ruben, msnbc legal correspondent. let's explain to our viewers who may be familiar with the times you are in a courtroom or recovered other cases, we have somebody in a document telling us in real time what is going on in that courtroom. let me start with what donald trump's attorney is arguing. he said there are two reasons that presidential immunity as i understand it should apply and what this -- is he telling the judge or is his ultimate goal? >> to your question there are two different variants of immunity. one is he said the judge erroneously admitted evidence during the trial of the case that constitutes official acts of evidence that should've been blocked under the presidential immunity decision including

tweets that he issued well president or conversations he had with people like hope hicks who was his communications director. it is his team's contention that he took it out of the case the verdict couldn't stand in the judge rejected that but other argument is one of timing and said a president-elect should benefit from the same immunity that any president gets and you recall the minute a president takes the oath of office they are immune temporarily from all prosecution for any and all acts official or not and their argument here is immunity should reply -- applied a block sentencing. why? because he is on the eve of becoming president in the same concerns about how he spends his time as president should apply to this very busy . and this is the few sentences that most so what would interfere with the transition even if presidential immunity as a doctrine applied but that is

their argument. >> let me read to you from the document and this is stephen wu the assistant district attorney arguing the other side from donald trump and his lawyer who says going forward he can't stand for sentencing in this is a claim that the president- elect is entitled to immunity with no support for that. the claim is so baseless that there is no basis for any kind of stay here and it is inconsistent with the opinion on presidential immunity and as you read it, is it inconsistent? >> he is the chief appellate attorney for the manhattan das office. the prosecution believes that the judge was correct that a president elect doesn't have immunity. president biden is the current president and president elect

trump will be president on january 20 after he takes the oath of office. the immunity, there was no case law and there was only one judge but typically and appeals panel is a panel of five but with an application like this goes to one duty judge and the judge was asking very specific questions. you are saying he has community -- immunity and where is the case law and he had to acknowledge there isn't any and this is unprecedented as a circumstance. as lisa said, the harm that would happen for donald trump to appear virtually on friday, at a sentencing, where he isn't getting any fine or imprisonment or probation is just not there that requires a stay in at the argument they are making. >> let me read a little bit more about what he had to say.

he said sentencing was originally scheduled in july six weeks after the verdict and they accommodated all his concerns many donald trump's concerns including the supreme court decision coming down and we are here in large part because the lower court bent over backward to accommodate the defendant and the only argument is a baseless claim. >> he is saying that they are here in large part because the lower court bent over backwards to accommodate donald trump and this has been postponed three times already to accommodate various motions that trump wanted to bring after they decided the immunity decision. the fact we only have a short time left, that's a situation of donald trump's own making and the judge seems to be persuaded by that based on this

document you and i are looking at which is essentially a live feed of what is going on in the courtroom. the producer in court is saying that the judge said he would hold the sentencing in july which was the originally scheduled time. to the extent that donald trump finds this inconvenient now because he is about to take office, a, it's not that much time off his plate or burden some but, b it was supposed to happen seven months ago. the fact we are here is because of the clients machinations and not because he is about to be president. >> the court has adjourned right now but i want to read to you the end of what happened in court literally moments ago. todd blanche, the last point i will make is it will always be an extraordinary thing in a person's life and it doesn't matter if it's an hour, two hours or half hour. the judge said he would have been happy to hold the sentencing and it was delayed because of your client and if he was concerned about this

issue he could've had it go on in july and todd blanche said we were raising motions every time that dealt with emotions and whether this was immunity extended to the president-elect and these are novel decisions and the sentencing is a very big deal. the judge concludes that you have not lost any rights and i will go back to the legal -- legal part of this and why is this a big deal for donald trump? >> it is 10 days before the inauguration. he doesn't want to go into office having been officially completing the process of being a convicted felon right when everybody is focusing on his new term. it may not matter that much legally if the judge agrees not to sentence him to prison or jail or fine him if he gives them an unconditional discharge and not much consequence in this sense of a penalty.

but there is a great consequence in terms of his reputation or stature in history as we look to the first convicted felon to enter the white house. i think it is a big deal and it would be a big deal even if you want president, obviously, be sentenced and he has successfully managed to push this off and push this off and push this off and here he is on the eve of his inauguration trying another time to get past the finish line. >> judge gives marc, could she make a ruling that makes them not a convicted felon or is it a matter what happens will he be the first president to go into office to take the oath as a convicted felon? >> there are only one of two rulings that judge gesmer will do is grant or deny the state. if she denies it, we have a long way until friday and assuming the sentencing will

occur then, that will be the final judgment of conviction. and donald trump will officially be a convicted felon and then can appeal and as peter said, the problem is the stigma because it will be happening while he is the president so there will be briefs filed while he is president and there will be oral arguments in the appellate court while he is president about this case. clearly, donald trump doesn't want that to happen and he wants it to be in limbo which will happen if he is in limbo. it will just stay that way until he is no longer president. he can't be considered really a final judgment of conviction until that sentence happens, if it does on friday. >> the other big story we talked about is the fight over the two-volume report written by the official counsel jack smith in which it will be released and it ended a short time ago this press conference

and donald trump lashed out at the special counsel calling him deranged. how worried do we think donald trump is, or what are your sources telling you? how worried is he about the release of this report? >> he certainly sounds worried, does any, if he didn't do anything wrong and if he didn't think the prosecutors had evidence, what would be the problem? they have a ton of evidence. the issue is his handling of these classified documents, which he took from the white house. when judge cannon throughout the case, she didn't do so because there was no evidence of guilt but she threw it out because of a technical disagreement about the process in which he was made special counsel. he never got to the merits of the evidence and what he did with this two-volume report is laying out for the public to

see and making its own judgment. >> what would be included in this report? >> let's reason by analogy and think about the mueller report which came in multiple volumes and came at the end of an investigation in which they were pending prosecutions. when i talk about this and what was in it, not only was there a description of conduct and what the special counsel thought was or was not criminal but there was a load of evidence in that report, some of which we did not get to see initially but over time we did through the freedom of information act request and transcripts of witness interviews, grand jury testimony, e-mails exchanged and perhaps in this case transcripts of voicemails that donald trump and others exchanged with some of the actors in this case. those are the types of things i expect in the ordinary course of special counsel to use to substantiate the narrative in a report but here we are told to expect there was no new information or new facts but doesn't mean there isn't any new evidence. >> let's bring in von hilliard.

another thing that came up is whether donald trump would pardon the rioters from january six and let's listen to that. >> people that were doing some bad things were prosecuted and people that didn't even walk into the building are in jail right now. we will be looking at the whole thing but i will be making that. >> will you pardon anybody who attacked a police officer? >> the only one that was killed was a beautiful young lady named ashli babbit. >> we know that isn't true, but what else do we know about donald trump's mindset and what did he say about this at the presser? >> he has been very noncommittal in terms of exactly who he will be pardoning among the january six defendants and more 1100 either found guilty or pleaded guilty

at this point. he stepped away from saying he would issue a blanket pardon of everybody involved but as you heard he continues to obvious skate -- up she skate -- and i wanted to ask him specifically based on the leader of the proud boys as well as the leaders of the oathkeepers and there are 14 who were guilty and convicted on those and are they on the list? there are a lot of specific questions and he is unwilling to go with even anybody to do that would have to remain behind bars. i think for donald trump there are a lot of questions and you get a lot of promises on the campaign trail and what you do on day one from executive orders to pardons.

here in the closing weeks and taking the reins and office he has been noncommittal in terms of specifics and i can say that i know there is a lot of maga allies, those who have been loud proponents of seeking these pardons who also have these questions about who will be released. i think there is pressure from multiple sides on president- elect. >> thank you so much for that. peter, the president is known for am going from one topic to another and he went almost an hour before he started taking questions. let me play you some clips for a whole host of other issues he talked about a short time ago. >> we will be changing the name of the gulf of mexico to the gulf of america, which has a beautiful ring. we will have a policy where no

windmills are being built and they are driving the wheels crazy, obviously. when you buy a faucet no water comes out even in some areas we have so much water you don't know what to do. it is called reign. it comes down from heaven. they want to do no water comes out of the shower. it goes drip drip drip. so what happens? you are in the shower 10 times as long. >> there are some other what i would think more substantive issues that he talked about and they want to think your colleagues at the new york times for doing a running list. he was threatening denmark with tariffs unless it gives greenland to the united states and did a riff about how corrupt the fbi as he says and he says of the hostages being held by hamas or not released by the time he gets into office all hell will break loose in the united states.

he appeared to confirm an article in the financial times that he wants members to commit to spending 5% of the economic output and has been on nato since he took office for the first time. you fact checked him on his repeated claim that russia would've never invaded if you are president and rush of course was already fighting in ukraine. he threatened substantial tariffs on mexico. i could go on. what do we make of this? what does it tell us of what we will be facing starting january 20 if not already? >> this is the challenge of the trump presidency which is he will get up and speak for an hour and a half and he will say a variety of things that fall on the spectrum from very serious to kind of odd and hard to interpret and what are we talking about. often he said and i don't the geese it is today but he gets into whether toilets are flushing strongly enough and he

has this meandering dispersive rambling style and sometimes hard to keep talk -- track of what he is talking about but in all of that is muddled as it is is serious stuff. what is the threat to the middle east of all hell breaking loose if the hostages aren't returned? what does he mean when he says he wouldn't rule out military to take back the panama canal? is the threatening war against an american ally to undo a treaty that the united states signed and ratified more than four decades ago? it is hard to make sense sometimes of these events because you have to sort out the stuff that really matters and the stuff that could make a difference and the threats of tariffs and demands for more military spending by nato and so on. and from this sort of random stray voltage that comes out of his head about wheels

complaining about windmills. >> sometimes he will say things that are dismissed even by people around him as being a joke and then he sits with it and this perhaps being one of those things, greenland. he was also critical of former president carter as his body was being brought to washington dc to lie in state and not something you typically see in any previous administration. and i do want to bring you back in, tell us about that moment with canada? >> they opened up that line of questioning about panama and greenland specifically and whether military force would be used to acquire both of those sovereign lands and president- elect acknowledged that, yes, he would be open to military threat, force, coercion and i

asked specifically about canada and over the last month repeatedly suggested that canada should be the 51st state and i said with my question asked if we were under the assumption that you are serious about making canada the 51st state would use military force in order to acquire canada because earlier in the press conference he acknowledged and suggested that canada didn't have much of a military even though they are an ally and they defend the united states in the aftermath of the september 11 attack and he said no, we would use military force but suggested that we would use economic abilities to -- and i want to make clear what it means and they are the two largest trading partners but essentially he suggested we would be able to cut off the cash flow and day louche there economy until canada is all but forced to concede the

annexation or requirements by the united states and because canada and the united states if you got rid of that line it's hard. the headline coming out of this is not only openness to using military force against panama and greenland but a longtime ally to the north and donald trump suggesting that you potentially would be willing to cripple the economy in order to force the canadian partners to do this with united states. >> at a time of instability where their prime minister is about to step down. okay. let's go back to that argument in court because we are standing by for a ruling according to our producer in court. the district attorneys office are standing around with donald trump's lawyer awaiting the decision which appears imminent

and you never want to presuppose what a judge would do and we have been surprised in the past and reading the arguments as we did, the judge are short, pointed. i would argue that even a little sharp at times with todd blanche and what do you expect? >> i expect a denial of this and then simultaneously expect and tell her viewers that we should expect donald trump's lawyers to go straight to the new york court of appeals and it's a confusing name but it is the highest court in the equivalent of the state supreme court and they will seek a stay i would expect there as well and how soon they could get a hearing or whether they do is unclear. but to your point, one thing to note is her professional background includes the manhattan criminal court which is the same court that judge

merchan has heard the trial. judge gesmer has been in his shoes and has been a judge there for five years prior to becoming a judge of the supreme court the matrimonial part so she over her divorce cases and she was elevated to her current position but her professional experience includes sitting in that chair deciding cases every day. there has to be empathy with the position this judge has been put in by donald trump and all of the machinations of his team and a very skilled team but a frustrating one for a judge trying to do the right thing and just when he thinks he can be ready to sentence donald trump along comes another motion or stay attempt by the team. >> frustrating for the judge and a long line of prosecutors. peter baker, let me wrap this up with you. i don't know if successful is the right word maybe two describe donald trump and his legal teams throughout the course of these multiple cases in delaying and brought us to

where we are at this point were two of the cases have gone away altogether and we are waiting to see whether he will be sentenced on another. >> yes. broadly speaking, yes. he succeeded in deflecting the most serious cases and here we are four years ago and a day after the january six attack on the capitol . we haven't had a final adjudication and accountability and the system of justice as to whether or not president elect trump had criminal liability involved. so instead of having any kind of judgment of the system about that, we did have an election and he used that to basically get out of legal liability and on that hush money case that is obviously very important, the fact he was convicted by a jury of his peers as the worst -- first president ever to do so convicted. it should not be forgotten and he thinks it's important which is why he is struggling so hard to get out of sentencing before he takes

office. broadly speaking, given the legal threats he faced in a criminal sense over the last four years his strategy of delay has had a great deal of success. >> thank you all for being with us for this breaking news. we continue to keep our eye on this document as we get an update for the decision and we will bring it to you. in 90 seconds, remembering jimmy carter, a look at the ceremonies in washington today ahead of a funeral for our 39th president. 39th president. shrimpin' baby! (vo) these days, the dollar just doesn't go as far. it's shrimp your way. choose 2 or 3 flavors starting at just $16.99. like garlic shrimp scampi. get your shrimp on today, only at red lobster.

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we are back with special air mission 39, the plane bringing former president carter back to washington for a final farewell and it has departed his home state of georgia. what followed was an elaborate presidential memorial, both familiar and also incongruent for a man known for his humility. here he was given -- giving his inaugural address. >> you have given me a great responsibility, to stay close to you, to be worthy of you, and to exemplify what you are and let us create a new national spirit of unity and trust. your strength can compensate for my weakness.

your wisdom can help minimize my mistakes. >> president carter's body will be transferred to the u.s. capitol . on thursday and national funeral service attended by all five living united states presidents. yet he is still the former peanut farmer who, as peter baker reports, famously banned plane hail to the chief and insisted on carrying his own luggage and air force one. he never cared for the culture of the u.s. capitol and never bowed to the conventions of it. other outsider presidents eventually acclimated to washington but not mr. carter. we are covering today's happenings from capitol hill and joining us is an msnbc

contributor and author of his very best, jimmy carter, a life. ryan, before he arrives to the u.s. capitol, we will see his funeral procession and it will make a nod to his famous walk when he exited the limousine. tell us about that and what we see today. >> there will be two important symbolic moments that will happen as his casket makes his way up here to capitol hill. this is when they will park the hearse which carries the presidents remains at the u.s. navy memorial down the street from where we are standing right now. it is significant because of course the former president was a graduate with the naval academy and a lieutenant in the united states navy and actually assigned the bill into law that established the memorial when he was president of the united states and it is there where it will be placed in that area you talked about and then brought up to capitol hill and his

family members are expected to trail the case and walking up the steps to capitol hill up the hill to where the body will then be placed and lie in state on capitol hill which is as you pointed out and owed to the tradition that he and the first lady started back in 1977 during his inauguration when they got out of the motorcade instead of waiving through the windows of the presidential limousine, they got out and walked and waved to the crowds there cheering on the inauguration. this would have been in part because of the weather and it is a winter wonderland here in washington dc and the city has gone to great pains to make sure that section between the

u.s. navy memorial to the u.s. capitol has been cleared off so it can make its way up the hill and his family won't have any trouble walking up the hill. i should say that even though there is snow everywhere in washington today, and even though it is freezing cold with temperatures in the 20s with a it or windchill, there is a bright sunny sky to greet the former president and his family as he makes his last trip here. washington dc. >> you did write that he was a genuine outsider when he went to the white house and he remained proud of that fact. how do you see this contrast and what we see play out today which is the traditional pomp and circumstance if we can say that, a somber one, of a presidential funeral which will lead up to what we see on thursday and who he felt he was? >> yes i think there is something paradoxical of course of him being honored in washington and he didn't really get along with washington at- large. he found it pretentious and indulgent and did not care for

it arrogance and ways in the city reciprocated and they didn't much care for him either. they were amateurs and tip o'neill at the time didn't know what they were doing i didn't have much experience and there was this disconnect and carter didn't want to be an outsider but it did cause some difficulties when he wanted to get his agenda through and i think later he conceded that perhaps he could've handled that differently but today, a long time later there is more admiration for him here in washington and people have long since forgotten in some ways this lights and snubs that upset him at the time and the appreciate the principle and honor and integrity and he wasn't a hail to the chief kind of guy and there was something

about it plane five times alone today at the various ceremonies but i think he came to understand it was something important about respecting the majesty of the office even though he abandoned it at first he later allowed it to be played at various points in his presidency. >> i wonder what he would make of this. he did know it would happen once he passed and thursday's funeral service will feature multiple eulogies but the one that is interesting will be from gerald ford's son and jimmy carter famously really didn't want to have or didn't have much to do with the most exclusive club in the world it has been called, that of former presidents but he and gerald ford of all people forged a really special relationship. tell us about that, rivals turned friends? >> he narrowly beat gerald ford in the 1976 elections, but then, pretty quickly, after he became president, he made a

point of mending his relationship with gerald ford and brought him to the white house in several locations and after the presidency, even though ford was playing golf and not really doing the same kind of things on certain discrete projects they joined together and established this personal bond which carter didn't have with his other successors and he got along better with ford than he did with bill clinton and even barack obama. the each to promise -- promised one another that the one that would survive each would speak at the funeral and when gerald ford died, jimmy carter did the eulogy and now steve ford is returning the favor but to the pomp and circumstance point, i think he didn't want hail to

the chief played and he later admitted to me that that wasn't so smart of him because he was kind of reducing the stature of the office but that was his natural inclination to be more modest in pretty much every dimension of his life but he also light to being recognized and appreciated. i think it was a good thing he lived long enough to see people reappraise him and his presidency. >> it's hard to see how you get elected president of united states without some ego at least. ryan and peter, jonathan, thank you. we will talk much more about this in the next hour. msnbc will have special coverage of former president jimmy carter's funeral service at the national cathedral this thursday right here on msnbc. we do hope you will join us. coming up, the arctic last setting and after a sprawling winter storm that brought white out conditions and caused four

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we do have breaking news that we have been waiting for. we have been waiting for the judge to make a decision on the request by donald trump's lawyers to block his friday sentencing and the hush money case and let me bring in the former assistant manhattan da and our legal analyst catherine christian and here our legal correspondent lisa rubin. it is very short. the stay is denied which doesn't necessarily mean he will be sentenced on friday, does it? >> it does not. in fact, basically there are minutes left in this if we are making a sports analogy with

the appellate division where donald trump is now, usually cases are heard by a panel of multiple judges. an emergency motion like this can be heard by a single judge in the problem that donald trump has now in terms of blocking the sentence is the next time we understand a full panel could be together is january 27 which obviously doesn't bring him to a place where he can block the sentencing before he takes office. i predict this move will be the court of appeals and ask for some emergency relief from the court. we don't know exactly what he will do next but i can tell you i feel confident he will do something. >> there is no doubt about that. but talk more about the timing. would it make a difference if it went over into post january 20 when he is president of the united states as opposed to president-elect? >> if he doesn't get a stay by

friday of his sentencing, he will be sentenced. when he is president, he will appeal it. the issue here is the new york state criminal defendants don't get to appeal until they are sentenced so the appellate division in the new york state of appeals would be doing something for donald trump that no other criminal defendant would get and it is just the way it works. you can't appeal until you have been sentenced. it would be very rare the state would be granted and all of the issues that donald trump's lawyers are bringing up are those that you bring up during your appeal after you have been sentenced. so he will, as lisa said, keep trying and keep trying, but i think in terms of the state court, the appellate division and the new york state of appeals, he won't be successful in not getting sentenced by friday. maybe he will have success on the federal side, but in terms of new york state, it is just a

procedure. you can't appeal until after you have been sentenced. >> thank you both very much and the other big story we have been following today is the first big winter storm of the year proving deadly. another one, by the way, is already brewing. four people were killed in this record-breaking blizzard that hammered the planes in the mid- atlantic. one public works officer died while clearing snow and another man found outside of the shelter as he froze to death in houston. a couple was found dead in kansas 18 hours after they lost control of their car and veered off of the highway that was icy. today the east is under a deep freeze with buildings in the dark and they are bracing for more snow. we are on the ground in dc where offices and public schools are closed again and what are the conditions like right now? >> reporter: dc is not used to

this with seven, eight, nine inches of snow and schools in the government closed and for good reason and we will show you some video here where hundreds of cars were left stranded on some interstates because folks got stuck in the snow and could not move and they got out of the cars to find another way home but now that the snow has stopped they have to be towed out of the snowbanks so dangerous and not a whole lot better in the skies when you look at some of these numbers we have seen and here they are closed last night and 95% of flights out of the area canceled or delayed and today not a whole lot better with 20% canceled or delayed but not all bad news. folks here in the dc area, kids are off school finding ways to have fun and i will show you some sledding in one of these best sledding hills.

the kids here are excited to be out of school and excited to be sledding and i didn't have the heart to tell them that the weather is looking up and they may be back to school tomorrow. >> a wise man. thank you. in the meantime lease have reported more than 170 crashes so far and the public works department in louisville posted this video of their team clearing the roads but even that can pose challenges. >> here it piled up against the car. >> there was a half inch of ice making it challenging. >> anybody who has ever been and a snowy area knows what that is like and let's bring in the mayor of louisville, craig greenberg and thank you for joining us and how are things looking right now? >> they are looking much better than they were 24 hours ago.

our teams have been working around the clock for 55 straight hours with hundreds of people who have plowed and salted 9000 miles of roads here with 25 million pounds of salt put on the roads. we are getting back today and will stay at it with the kids back in school to get the city moving again but we haven't had this much snow in over 25 years so i am thankful for the hard work from the dedicated public servants we have here. >> do you have a sense of a timeline? how many people still don't have power and are shelters open for people who don't have power? >> we were very fortunate and we had historic amounts of snow but sunday night we didn't get as much freezing reign and not as much ice predicted so we had fewer power outages which was a good thing and that was helpful. we do have warming centers open and shelters open. we are providing transportation to individuals who need a place to get out of the elements and

we will continue to do that throughout this week because even though the snow and ice have ended, we are dealing with freezing temperatures for the rest of the week and mother nature's not helping. >> no more snow? >> we will get a little bit more but we will be able to handle that on friday. >> obviously i am sure you keep track of the folks manning the 911 calls. are there people who can't get out and maybe they need support or supplies? what is your biggest concern right now? >> my biggest concern right now is that when people are going back out and people getting impatient and they have been home for a few days and i get it and they want to enjoy that sledding like you saw happening in dc and the same is happening in louisville with people going back to groceries that they still need to use extreme caution on the road because

just because it has been plowed or salted it doesn't mean it is back to normal conditions and there may be spots of ice. we will continue working 24 seven and continue helping those in need and we had so much snow that even when we plowed now we have cars stuck in driveways covered so we have cleanup work left to do and we will do that and get the kids back in school and get the city moving again. >> you mentioned there are folks working into their third day straight and you have people for their own reasons who maybe just to get supplies and food have been out with 170 crashes so far. what is your message to folks about the next few days before one would hope the weather warms up and maybe some of this goes away? >> to continue to use caution. stay warm and safe. when you go out to travel, be aware of your surroundings. don't speed. be aware of others. if you can walk, do that. help others out.

there are folks needing to get to work having medical emergencies and issues. if there is the way you can help a neighbor in need, help them over the coming days and be aware of it but louisville has heated the warnings and that was helpful in helping us getting the roads reopened and they are in a better place today than they were yesterday. i am thankful for the community and spirit of louisville because you do see it in times like this during historic storms we have been facing. >> definitely a tip of the hat to the folks elsewhere dealing with this and doing it every time there is a storm to get out there when everybody is staying home and making it safe. mayor, i appreciate your taking the time. thank you. still to come a major shift with marc zuckerberg announcing he is ending the fact checking program saying the election felt like a cultural tipping point and what it means about what you will see online. that is next. is next

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american veins. >> rescue teams are searching for survivors in western china after a devastating earthquake rocked a remote region of tibet leaving at least 126 people dead and 188 more injured. the 7.1 quake near the foothills of mount everest damaged more than 1000 buildings according to chinese state media and felt in neighboring nepal and india. rescue efforts are complicated by frigid temperatures which are expected to fall to around 3 degrees. there will be no more fact checking on faced each -- facebook and instagram. a seismic change ahead of donald trump's return to office. meta has announced it is replacing its program with user generated community notes which is similar to what is used on the x platform. marc zuckerberg said it's time

to go and get back to free expression. >> the recent elections feel like a cultural tipping point toward once again prioritizing speech so bringing it back to our roots and focus on reducing mistakes, simplifying policies and restoring free expression on our platforms. >> our senior business analyst joins us now. the timing of this is interesting and it will be after january six, but what should we make of these changes? >> go back to our roots. remember, move fast and break things. this is about citizens united. we are experiencing limited dollars from corporate entities making their way into politics and the idea that law-abiding citizens are the ones protecting and that is not the case. you just said a moment ago that january sixth 2021 immediately following that social media company and their ceos marc

zuckerberg included were under so much scrutiny they were in the hot seat for the content on their platforms with hate speech being pushed and is at how bad actors came together and there were questions about what the best practices would be going forward. fast-forward and marc zuckerberg and many other ceos see that donald trump is transactional and people like to say bending the knee and what does marc zuckerberg do? save himself hundreds of millions of dollars in actually having content moderation and moving to this let's see what happens phase. it is extraordinarily dangerous and how many people are worried about the content on social media? as he said, it will get more dangerous but we will see how it goes. >> the chief global affairs officer said the platforms have become too restrictive over what people can say and he said that created a political bias and it comes down to impart

whoever is in the white house and here is what he said. >> there is no question there is an opportunity here with a new president taking office really believes in free expression. that will give us the space to do that. >> let's talk about the impact this could have on political discourse. i get asked all the time how do i find the truth when i see things my friends post on facebook or ac on social media and how do i know what is true or not true and it got harder. >> it is a war on the truth and we just heard from the white house press secretary that the room will be more crowded with more faces and all of this is pulling away from fact checking and we do know that social media platforms already don't have to adhere to the standards or legal standards that traditional media companies

like ours does and until now they have been self-regulating but now even the tools they used to self regulate were thrown out the window. we are living in a moment where you have entities like the des moines register getting sued by donald trump for their work and facebook another platform say we don't have to follow rules because the way the rules are structured they don't. >> stephanie, good to see you, my friend and thank you. be sure to stack -- check out her coverage on the 11th hour at 11:00 p.m. right here on msnbc be -- and we will look at more coming up next at the service of president carter including where his casket will be loaded onto a horse-drawn case and to be taken to the u.s. capitol. a senator who is served in congress since carter was president joins us with his memories, next. with his memories, next without a prescr.

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