>> and so david, what is your message to the folks? and i think that i presume. i know that you all have also been speaking to our spanish language community in the area. what's your message to the folks around the area. >> the most important thing is, if you're in the area, first of all, be prepared. if you can navigate to wildfire.org, you can find resources for how to prepare an evacuation bag. what evacuation plans you need to make. not only for yourself but for pets and livestock. and then also, keep an eye on our incident map at fire.ca.gov, in order to find out what the latest evacuation warnings and orders are. >> david, acuña, thank you very much for being with us this morning. that wraps up the hour for me. i'm jose dias ballard. thank you for your time. r your. >> good day everyone, i'm

andrea mitchell in washington as a desperate escape is under way in southern california. with five wild fires burning, across all of la county, there are multiple burn victims. the worst is yet to come. >> i want to make sure that everybody understands we are absolutely not out of danger yet. >> heed the advice of first responders when they ask you to evacuate, evacuate. this is not a drill. this is in realtime. >> hurricane force wind gusts, some topping 100 miles per hour pushing the deadly flames with devastating force and frightening speed. thousandsof acres destroyed in 30 minutes. the number of mandatory evacuations keeps growing.

>> they escaped on foot as the flames closed in on top of them along the famed palisades th parkway. >> the homeowners are saying they are unable to access any exit route. there is fire on both sides of the roads. >> fire crews then used bulldozers to push dozens of charred cars off the road and out of the way. these densely populated e neighborhoods often only have one way out. haven't seen substantial rainfall in months. some residents who evacuated last night are now going back ig in trying to save all they can including pets. >> this is unbelievable. >> what made you come back e home? >> this is home. what are we going to do? where are we going to go? >> exhausted fire crews are e overwhelmed but determines to do all they can. >> anybody ever wonders how difficult it is to fight these fires, this is it right here. the force of mother nature and a

the flames are just sideways. take a look at that. this is what they are up against out here. it feels like a blow torch out here when these flames turn around and come toward you. but yeah, look, you can see he is using a tree to shield himself. he is actually using this tree to break the fire, the heat. >> and akjust look at how thick this smoke was. on the right, complete darkness. all that smoke is creating major health risk for people even outside the fire zone. we begin with steve patterson. talk to us in the situation near pasadena.. >> reporter: the situation is dire. the winds have picked up after a little bit of a lull. there is a fully engulfed home in this neighborhood on just about every street we have seen. no rematter where you go.

these firefighters arriving on scene moments ago. they are trying to protect the homes that are close by. this home, we watched literally just melt to the ground momentso ago. there was a standing structure as you see. it is now just molten fire. there is an off duty firefighter who lives here. we have watched him the last tc half hour or so try to put as much protection as he can on this home to try to save it in case an engine does stop by. we nejust in the last few minut watched that happen. firefighters now with foam. what you see here just to save t what's left here. meanwhile, there are homes, dozens of homes that we have seen. in this neighborhood reduced to rubble and ash. if not severely damaged or

fully engulfed on fire. you can see the fire engine now arriving. neighbors everywhere looking. watch this fire hose. and then here, just ruins. i mean, e,we watched these home burn as well. you see neighbors pulling the hose, trying to put protection on the home over there. we have seen fire in this attic as well. smoke billowing over the top of this home. that home will erupt in flames in a matter of minutes if left unchecked. firefighters have thankfully arrived. you can see the result when they are not able to get thto a area quickly enough. and there is just so much fire in this area that it is un believable. unthinkable the amount of work they have to do. but they are doing the best they can. this is just one example. you could find a scene like this in a block-and-a-half to my left or my right. but obviously, neighbors doing the best that they can, we have spoken to some of these folks, the woman across the street who

lost her home. she told me about the gentleman standing in the yard here. the off duty firefighter. firefighters now on scene. you see the hose has been deployed. they are trying to put these ruins out. to try to save the rest of the properties in the area. firefighters right now, solely focused on saving lives. making sure people have evacuated and putting as much protection down as they can so the fire doesn't spread. the problem is that if you get a good gust of wind and we have seen winds 60, 70, 80, pockets of 100 mile-per-hour wind gusts, hurricane force winds, all it takes is a couple of embers for this to spread to somewhere new. to a rooftop that hasn't been fully engulfed yet. and we have seen it happen. so it is just unthinkable how much and how far this devastation has wrought. i have seen iofires like this, but never in a metropolitan area, in neighborhoods as

densely populated like this. it is just so dangerous for the men and women working but also people that have stuck around trying to save their homes. andrea? >> steve, i have seen you in so many fire scenes up and down the coast. i have never seen anything quite like this and neither have you. i'm thinking about the air quality. the danger. i'm glad you are goggled and masked. but what about the residents? there is a buildup to this. people need oxygen. what about the elderly? people with asthma? >> the air quality was over 100. that's akin to assmoking ten packs a day. you can feel it when you are here. thankfully, we can sort of see the sun now peeking out. the smoke was so dense that it still felt like it was nighttime. and the embers raining down like snow. it is unfathomable to be in a

scene like that. the billowing smoke is spreading for miles. hundreds and hundreds of miles e when you cover a fire of this size, it carries over to multiple states. the air quality, is unbelievably bad. neighbors on phones checking with their families. checking with their loved ones g to find out is my house okay. am i okay? it is just, you know, a scenario we have seen repeat. y yesterday, they could not because of the flight rules and the smoke, they couldn't get up in the air to use the repellant. are they able to get airborne now? >> reporter: it is almost moment to moment. as soon as they get some time in which the winds die down,

and we have seen that happen, they want to put aircraft in the air, obviously. but it is so dangerous when you have gusts that overpower any craft that manages to get off the ground. and you have to hit these hot spots, very individualized localized fires that can obviously spread. when they are like this, it is impossible and the winds are so erratic. they have died down at the moment. when we first started speaking to you, it was almost hard to hear you because of how bad the winds were. there were times in which i'm standing in this neighborhood and i have to brace and lock down my legs. this will last at least the next few hours. just the wind event alone. you can hear items rattling. the window shaking.

my wife at home. we g.had no power last night. we were burning candle light. just that alone and the wind damage that is in these neighborhoods is the story of itself. to add the amount of fire. the firefighters are dealing with. >> it is like covering a hurricane and a witornado in th middle of a wild fire at the same time. i'm so sorry. and hei hope you can get into a vehicle and out of there. out of the immediate area. give your lungs a break. we are learning before the president leave to come back to washington, he couldn't leave to go to his environmental event. president biden will be briefed by cal fire. joining now is jesse torres. captain torres, thank you.

first of all, how are your crews? you have had some real loss theres and they are so courageous. >> definitely. the long night last night. a lot of the fire crews worked all night long. working the late hours, still not have a lot of relief this morning. normally we have relief crews come in. not all of them have arrived yet. so the firefighters that started this fight at 10:30 in the morning are still going strong. >> is there a chance some of these four fires could converge and make it harder to fight them? >> yeah, a lot of o our spot fires will converge. we are not concerned about the other two fires at this time. but those conditions could change. as the wind continues th throughout the day. d and i know one firefighter, i don't know if it is from your team is injured with a severe head wound? off duty firefighters are being called in.

do you need assets from other ts states? >> i'm sorry, can you repeat that? >> do you need more help from other areas of california or the west coast or other states? because you -- >> we do. from what i understood, we have requested more resources from out of state. from like nevada and arizona. so they may be en route later today as well. >> what about the water pressure? there t is talk of water shortages and low pressure, some hydrants have run dry. >> that happens sometimes. sometimes of these water systems are not prepared. utilizing this water. it is a major overload and some water systems are not ready for that. we supplement that. with water trucks.

and our aviation fleet as well. >> i know the aviation as sets can't always be used because of the intensity of the smoke. and your crews are itfacing the smoke, the flames, the topography. one of our local reporters was hearing pops, explosions. they don't know what might be exploding inside these homes. >> yeah. we sinever know what is at exploding. we have a good idea of what could be exploding. it is usually propane tanks. when they evacuate their homes. shut off all the gas license and shut off the power from the house preventing firefighters with more dangerous events around the home.

this could be a hazard to firefighters. >> so how do the power shutoffs help prevent sparks? >> if we tohave an opportunity save someone's home and we need to go inside a home to knock down a fire in a room and save that home, we want that power off to prevent any type of electrical hazards as the firefighters enter the home. or sometimes, tethere might be some type of electrical fires. we want all the power shut down. >> captain torres, thank you so much. god speed to you and all of your teams. we wish you the best in this disaster. joining us now is nbc news weather anchor bill karins. this is just beyond description. obviously. how did it get out of control so fast? talk to me about the winds.

we haven't talked about how dry it has been. i was not aware it has been so many months without rain. >> yeah, the rainy season begins in november and it hasn't rained. that's why we have gone eight months since significant rain in southern california. we knew this high wind event was going to happen. and that by itself was pretty historic. mammoth, 135. kirkwood, 176 mile-per-hour wind gusts. burbank gusted to 90 miles per l hour. so the wind event itself did significant damage. and throw in the mix, this urban wild fire, and that is why we have this just epic catastrophe, thousands of structures lost. when this is all added up, this will likely end up one of the most destructive wild fires in california history. this is one of the fires we are tracking, the big one is the palisades fire. malibu overnight.

the eaton fire exploded. the woodley fire is a smaller one. the hurst fire is about 505 acres just to the southeast of santa clarita, the eaton fire is blowing the smoke plume right over downtown la. that is why the kids stayed home. this is the map that shows what has burned with the palisades fire. so it actually started up here. then it kept jumping and last night, it made this run down toward topanga beach where a lot of structures have been lost. a huge neighborhood. this fire is bumping up the franklin fire from pepperdine university. how wild is that, pepperdine university twice in a month has to cancel classes and evacuations. so as far as what will happen a the rest of today, the winds are coming down. they did peak last night. still very high today.

40 to 60 mile-per-hour gusts. santa ana, about 46. lax, 31. oxnard, 43. this is where the fire is located near malibu now. still in very strong winds. other areas y the winds are coming down, by the time we get through this evening we will get a big relaxation in the winds. the relative humidity is still bone dry because it hasn't rained and that helps the fires burn faster. as far as the red flag warnings go and the extreme risk, it's this area from north of downtown la through santa ro clarita and this extreme fire behavior. about 6:00 to 9:00 p.m. overnight they can get the air support now. we have this extreme wind

event. the next winter storm we will talk about later this week, is this storm that was just south of arizona responsible for a lot of this mess. >> bill karins, with everything we need to know. thank you as always. we appreciate it. we are getting a firsthand look at la. you are watching andrea mitchell reports. this is msnbc. mitchell reports. this is msnbc. you didn't start a business just to keep the lights on. lucky for you, shopify built the just one-tapping, ridiculously fast-acting, sky-high sales stacking champion of checkouts. businesses that want to win, win with shopify.

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and more now on our top story. the catastrophic wild fires around los angeles. president biden is in la with the first lady, a previously planned trip. they are set to return to washington later today. he will get a briefing from cal fire before leaving the state. the president's climate event tuesday had to be canceled because of unsafe wind conditions. the same winds fanning the flames around la. and we learned the vice president's los angeles residence is under an evacuation order. no one was at the home at the time. kelly o'donnell joins us now with a lot more. so kelly, this has got to be of grave concern. i know the white house is ordering fema into action to try to help. they need more firefighters and they are also having all of the aerial problems. they can't get the water in

play in any places. not just because of low water pressure, but because they can't get up in the air. >> reporter: and one of the things the president has done has provided federal aviation assets. they can be available, but not be able to be operational if the conditions don't allow it. he has authorized the use of those federal fire fighting tools in a variety of ways. what is most striking about this is rarely is the president already in a location where a natural disaster or a tragic event of national proportions hits. typically, we get word the president is being briefed here at the white house. and some days later he goes to those scenes. this is sort of flipped on its head because as you point out, he already had scheduled events in the region and his hotel is within view of some of the smoke and the broad los angeles county area. and it has hampered some of the movements related to the president.

the other thing we always hear from the white house is they don't want to take any action that impedes the need for local law enforcement that need to be attacking the issue at hand. so that presents a challenge here. he is expected to have a briefing with california fire officials. he has been kept in the loop at his hotel throughout the hours. according to the aides we have been talking to. and he and the first lady will depart california. so the focus can be on the work at hand. the vice president's residence is within the evacuation zone. they are preparing to move back to that home in just a couple of weeks when she leaves the official residence of the vice president when her term ends. the secret service responsible for protecting that residence had to reposition as well. that may be very small in

comparison to all of what is happening with lives at risk and injuries and homes destroyed but the sign of how in this instance there are personal overlaps with the administration as well as their official role in responding to this. andrea? >> it is all extraordinary. but having been out west, just by being in la. endure it is air qualities affected. kelly o'donnell, thank you so much. joining me now, democratic congressman jimmy gomez of california. congressman, first of all, what do you know about what's happening now to your constituents and family? >> let me thank the firefighters putting their lives on the line. fighting this fire. i have never seen anything like

this where you have had multiple fires breaking out, my wife received an evacuation warning on her phone this morning. a lot of my constituents have received that as well. in the area of eagle rock. my wife happen to be here for my swearing in as well as my son. but i have been receiving photos and text messages about the conditions. it's dark, air quality is bad, and people are scared so we want to get information out to them that is accurate. they should fire the la fire department's twitter handle and their website. but don't go off of rumors online. because that can lead you down the wrong path. so follow trusted sources like the fire department and the mayor of la. >> are there special precautions residents should be taking? >> if they get an evacuation warning they should start preparing.

one constituent didn't know how to prepare. three p, people, pets, papers, prescriptions, and vitamins and any memorabilia you want to keep and your personal computer and plastic. and your credit cards and money. you have to be prepared because this thing is evolving by the minute. if the wind changes, and the embers happen to drift miles away, your house and your neighborhood could be in trouble so be prepared if that evacuation order comes. get out, take it seriously. >> watching these pictures, it's so frightening. how old is your son, congressman? >> my son is two. two and four months. and i know he has a day care that is in eagle rock just north of colorado. that's where a lot of the people are really in the line of the fire. the 134 freeway is just at the

edge. that is just right up the edge of that neighborhood so i'm thinking about the kids in this neighborhood, my son. the toddlers. toddlers are not easy to even pick up to go to the grocery store. so when you are under an evacuation order it is just so much more pressure so i want them to be prepared if something happens and they need to get out as quickly as possible. >> congressman, that is such good advice. my best to you, your family. most importantly right now, your constituents. >> thank you. and next, president-elect trump is asking the supreme court to block his hush money sentencing. and susan page joins me to break down her exclusive new interview, the only printed interview with the president before he leaves office. you are watching andrea mitchell reports on msnbc. rep. , so i'm going to go back to last week and buy a winning lottery ticket. -can i come? -only room for one.

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friday, at 9:30 in the morning, eastern, this comes after an appellate judge denied trump's request to delay. joining me now, washington bureau chief for usa today, susan page who got the exclusive interview with the president. and former fbi general council and former senior of the muller probe, andrew weismann. so let's talk about the legal situation. the supreme court request. he is going straight to the supreme court. so is everything on hold until the justices make a decision or do they have to issue a stay for that to take place? >> they would technically have to issue a stay. if they don't do that, the sentencing is going to go

forward. that is scheduled on friday. the trial court denied a stay. the appellate court denied a stay. and the donald trump is seeing if the new york court of appeals, the final court in new york would take the case, but also, because of the time issue, has gotten directly to the supreme court. it remains to be seen if they will help donald trump out and delay the sentencing. normally, the judge here has said that he is going to give an uncondpoible sentence. defendant could ever hope for. so donald trump is trying to avoid any sentencing whatsoever. so, it remain to be seen. the prosecution has until

tomorrow morning to file its opposition in the supreme court. >> and meanwhile, the justice department says the attorney general has decided, the attorney general has jack smith's report. and he has decided to release the january 6th prosecution report. while an appeal is pending. what are your thoughts to think we will actually see this or that trump still has options to block it? >> donald trump wins again, it could go to the supreme court. but we are waiting for the 11th circuit, the court of appeals that oversees the court. it points out jack smith had actually recommended that the volume two of the report

relating to mar-a-lago not be made public because there are two defendants who could be prejudiced by the two codefendants of donald trump so that was something that was new and makes it clear that judge cannon didn't need to issue her decision. with respect to the january 6th part as you noted, the attorney general has said that he intends to make that public. he absolutely has to wait for the 11th circuit to say that he has the go ahead because judge cannon sort of preemptively said everything is stayed. that clearly seems like an improvident order on her part. i wouldn't be surprised for them to say he has the go ahead to go forward with the january 6th report being made public. it seems highly unlikely there is any argument to prevent that from happening. >> and susan, you had one of the only interviews if not the only interview with president biden before he leaves office. he is not even holding a news

conference which is traditional. which is not great for the white house press core. but here you are. and there are some big headlines here. something that was reported he had alluded to in a private conversation with president obama at kennedy's funeral service. he is suggesting he could have won the election. >> he is saying he believed he could have won if he had stayed on the ballot. but that is a striking admission. but the more striking one i thought is when i asked him, do you believe you would have had the vigor to complete four more years in what many people believe is the toughest job in the world? and he said i don't know. he said who the hell knows and i don't know who i will be at 86 years old which would be the age he would be leaving. >> so why would he have chosen to run again without the confidence he could have completed his term? >> it's at odds with the

assurances he gave american voters. so that is a good question to ask and it is too bad we don't have a news conference to follow that up. >> is he still angry about the decision, or does he regret the decision to step down if he thinks he could have won? >> when i asked him about his regrets and disappointments, that's not what he named. he didn't strike me as angry. he was energetic and engaged and loquacious. but we know he is disappointed he is not going to be around. that he will not get the second term. he has hung this massive portrait of fdr over the mantle of the white house fireplace. so that's what he sees when he looks up. that is the really consequential president he wanted to be and he hopes history will see him as. >> and vaughn hillyard joins us. you were at the news conference

and i asked one of the most important questions of that entire news conference following up on the president's view toward the panama canal and greenland. and canada. talk to me about what he said. >> reporter: there is a serious question now taking place about what the trump administration actions would be taken to acquire greenland and the panama canal and the extent to which military force would be an answer. he answered to me he was not under consideration military force to acquire and annex canada. we are talking about a broader conversation about american imperialism. about conquest in the 21st century here. the u.s. hasn't acquired territories in land in more than 100 years here, what donald trump is openly suggesting is keen interest in doing exactly that. in the case of canada, cutting

off imports. it is not clear it is a viable move for either land. but in the case of green land, it is worth noting that senator ted cruz on his podcast in the aftermath of that press conference yesterday, let's read the quote directly from him. the united states acquiring greenland is a very, very good idea. acquiring greenland has enormous advantages to the united states. number one, greenland's location on the arctic is incredibly important from a national security and defense perspective. undoubtedly, there will be serious questions for members up on capitol hill as to the viability of this. denmark and leadership in greenland have been resistant to this question but this will be a big one. >> it is just all

extraordinary. and when we talk about canada and the trade deficit, it should be noted it was the trump negotiation that renegotiated nafta. with both canada and mexico. so this is a trade deal they negotiated themselves. vaughn hillyard, susan page, congratulations susan on the great exclusive and andrew weismann as always. a busy time on the legal front. up next, we will go back to southern california for an update on the fire. you are watching andrea mitchell reports. this is msnbc. mitchell reports. this is msnbc. here's to beating these two every thursday. help fuel today with boost high protein, complete nutrition you need, and the flavor you love. so, here's to now... now available: boost max! ♪♪ nature knows best. that's why new chapter vitamins... ...follows her example. ♪♪ transforming nature's 4 billion years of wisdom... ♪♪ ...into supplements. with key vitamins, minerals,

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right now, in and around los angeles, thousands of acres are burning. tens of thousands of residents have been forced to flee their homes. that included at least 40 residents of a nursing home in pasadena including one person who is 102 years old. others who required extra oxygen. some rushing barefoot to ambulances who were rushed to safety in the middle of the

night. >> i'm going to say i have seen at least 40 patients. and they just keep coming it's quite a lot. if someone has a family member here, these people have likely rushed over here to try to get their family members out of harm's way. >> you have to think about the nurses and care givers. chase cane joins us from pacific palisades. one of the neighborhoods that was the first to burst into flames. chase, is there any dimming of the winds now and any hope? rescuing the rest of that neighborhood? >> reporter: yeah, the winds have come down a little bit as expected but they are still not at the point that the firefighter out here so

desperately need them to be. the most impactful tool they have is the helicopters, the airplanes. they had to ground the entire fleet last night around 7:30. they are waiting for the winds to die down. if i show you what's here behind me, this is the pacific coast highway. you are looking in the direction toward santa monica, you can really barely see across the road where there's a couple of condo buildings there through the smoke. there was a condo building further off in the distance that burned overnight. a famous bel air bait club sustained damage overnight. this entire area of the palisades fire, they have also just heard an explosion in the background as some of the fires are still burning. more than 1,000 homes, businesses, buildings have burned so far in this fire. more than 5,000-acres. it is not just one contained fire. it is a lot of little fires.

it has created new hot spots. here behind us along sunset boulevard. the famous sunset boulevard. we have had pretty sustained winds. a couple of gusts reported well above 100 miles per hour. we are talking category 4 and 5 hurricane wind gusts. you can see still fires burning all over the place. >> according to knbc, some aircraft, some choppers have been able to get up. so maybe they can do some more mitigation. >> reporter: that's great news. we haven't seen or heard any of them down here, but that is good to hear they are able to start getting out there andrea. >> thank you so much, chase. please take care. and joining us now, doctor

vin. we have talked about the air quality in these wild fires out west. i know you liveed in the west coast a long time. but this is the most dense and highly populated i have ever seen. >> yeah. andrea, you know, this is the season we are seeing apocalyptic. everybody out there. whether you have a preexisting condition or are perfectly healthy, this can impact you. i want your viewers to be clear, if they are in the vicinity of la county to heed the evacuation warnings and to recognize that smoke often is the first sign of a fire near you, but smoke inhalation has serious impacts to human health and can cause someone with asthma, heart disease to end up in the hospital. even if you are healthy, young.

just a few minutes of inhaling it can cause carbon monoxide toxicity. nausea, altered mental status. these are the things all of us should be looking out for especially if you are within la county. do not think you are safe just because you don't see flame it is. a few minutes of exposure to smoke can be deadly and cause you to pass out. >> so what can residents do? i assume they should be masked but that will not be a great help with the intensity of this, the density of the smoke. >> first of all, if you are under an evacuation warning, heed it. if you are not, i looked at the air quality index around la county. down to san diego. air quality is poor across the board in southern california.

there are things you should be doing. like we were talking about in new york city in the summer of 2023. stay indoors. this is not the time to be outside. if you have to be outside for work or whatever reason, commuting, wear an n95 if you have one. if you have a p100, even better. run your ac. no windows open. run your air-conditioning. if you can put tape on the windows, better, it can help diminish the permeation of particulate matter into your home. you want to monitor your air quality index. it is not safe to be out there unless the aqi is less than 100. smoke exposure.

any heat exposure. but especially smoke exposure can cause you to become dehydrated quickly. make sure you are taking your medications. make sure you are on top of your medications to optimize your health. >> doctor, thank you. appreciate that. >> thank you. and next, judy woodruff joins me to share her experiences with jimmy carter as the nation pays tribute to the former president as he lies in state at this hour. you are watching andrea mitchell reports on msnbc. mitchell reports on msnbc. whiler perks, our retirement contributions are boosted by 3%. now with robinhood gold.

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than brushing and flossing alone. get a next level clean... ahhhhh with listerine. feel the whoa! and as we remember, jimmy carter, we are keeping of course a very close eye on the wild fires burning around los angeles right now. forcing tens of thousands of people from their homes. but here in washington today, people are lining up to file into the capitol rotunda to pay their respects to former president carter. a funeral will be held for the 39th president at washington's national cathedral. you are watching a live picture as people are coming to pay their respects. joining me now is judy woodruff. a correspondent for the pbs news hour and covered the carter white house for nbc news. from his first days in politics

really. there you were in atlanta. >> i was a year-and-a-half out of college. had just been hired by the cbs affiliate in atlanta. and my assignment was to cover georgia politics. guess who was running for governor? a peanut farmer who had tried once and failed. he defied all expectations. defeated carl sanders. went onto serve, could only serve one term at that time under georgia law. and, before we knew it, andrea, we were hearing rumors that he and his team were thinking about running for president. of the united states. >> did it seem completely improbable? >> he had already made kind of a name for himself as this unlikely governor in the south.

racial discrimination is over. and so, he had developed an identity. the idea he was going to vault over senators and other governors who were much better known than jimmy carter was. >> i have to confess, i first met him in 1972 at the democratic convention in miami. and the governor of pennsylvania said i want you to meet my friend jimmy carter from georgia. he will be our nominee four years from now. and i looked at the governor of pennsylvania and governor carter as though they were both crazy. >> milton shaft was, i wish someone had whispered that in my ear in 1972! because i didn't know until later. as i watched these ceremonies today, they have the stamp of jimmy carter all over them. >> there is so much, not pomp and circumstance, but, this

pageantry involved. it seems different from the jimmy carter we knew. carrying his own bags. >> i didn't like all the trappings he said. yet it is fair to say he, his family and staff have spent years planning these services over 11 and 12 days meticulously down to the smallest detail. stopping at the navy memorial. the horse drawn casket. >> he was a sub mariner. >> the only president i think to go to the naval academy. ever. and then today, what you are seeing is among others, it's the public, but the family wanted to set aside every hour, a different part of jimmy carter's life. whether it was health care, the opening to china. the middle east. habitat for humanity.

every aspect of his busy jam packed life they set aside as a moment to pay tribute to the president. so it's a reminder of how broad his impact was. >> and now we realize thanks to your reporting and the biography, there was so much more in the presidency itself. the opening to china. panama canal. he took political risks. >> he did and he often did it without thinking about the politics. he was not someone who cared about politics. he was much more interested in results and policy. he was a policy guy. i think it is safe to say. a detail man. so he did take risks. he did things, canceled water projects that were the favorite of congressmen. he was able to leave a mark that lasted.

>> and in watching him in habitat. you were one of the few selected to eulogize roselynn carter. the marriage was so special. >> i was incredibly honored. wonderful to be with you andrea. you and i go back to the carter days. >> in plains georgia. >> and he'll be returning there. judy, thank you so much for taking the time. >> thank you. >> and tomorrow, we'll of course have special coverage of president carter's funeral service at the national cathedral here in washington. i'll be reporting from outside the service all morning, all day really. and that does it for this edition of andrea mitchell reports. chris reports after a very short break with more on the california wild fires. california wild fires. [swooshing sound] introducing allison's plaque psoriasis. ♪♪ she thinks her flaky, gray patches are all people see. ♪♪ otezla is the #1 prescribed pill to treat plaque psoriasis.

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good day. i'm chris jansing, live at nbc headquarters in new york city. breaking news, a fast-moving disaster in california. two dead, many injured.