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angeles, 2,500 miles away, and so it's still standing. i mentioned it last night. it could be lost tonight. could be lost tomorrow night. saturday is the first time apparently the wind is going to let us relax at all. so the good news/bad news, i got reports for most of the last 24 hours, fire trucks have been on my street. and i first i thought, great, they are on my street. my house is safe. but it means they need to be on my street. that's the bad news. it's much better news that the fire trucks are far away from your street because that means it isn't really threatening. but that's the way it is for everyone in los angeles. they are either deeply worried about their own house, or everyone knows people who are now homeless. i mean, just walking out here to the studio, it finally occurred to me, because we are inundated

with incoming and out going texts and calls. it crossed my mind, oh, i don't want to say his name, but i have to check with my dentist because i know he lives pacific palisades. and so i didn't even ask, you know, is he okay. my text was just i am so sorry for what you and your family are going through. of course, his house burned down yesterday. you just know now. there isn't really any suspense if you really know where people live. you know just how much trouble they are in at this point. and so it's just an endless flow of this kind of information that we are all sharing. whenever anyone gets near any of the areas and snaps a picture, we all share it with each other. this is what your street looks like today. that's the most valuable thing anyone can send you, a picture of your street. and so it's a real human agony and it is kind of, it's

something that californians understand. everyone in los angeles understands. and the challenge is trying to make it understood beyond the people who live through there it. >> that's why i think people like you and katy and jacob who have direct ties to the state, it's so critical to hear even just the ten or of your voice you talk about it, it's hugely impactful and really important for all of us as we go through this experience and, hopefully, help each other through it in whatever way we can. >> yeah. the last thing i deserve is anyone's sympathy about what's going to happen to my house. i get to watch this from the comfort of my second home, okay? so there is no real danger for me. someone in my house, a family in one of my houses the other day, grabbed a few things i could think of that would be nice to have. but people are losing every single thing.

people weren't home. there were people who were working out of town, whose houses burned down and no one walked through the door to grab anything. and every single thing in those homes is lost and lost forever. and these are people with one home, many of them very modest homes. apartments. people in apartments. modest apartments. they are losing those. and so there is an ongoing, you know, life challenge and strategy for the people who come out of this, you know, completely healthy, uninjured, but with nothing. >> yeah. deep trauma. a lot of trauma. we are at the beginning of it. >> we are. thank you, alex. >> lawrence, good luck. >> thank you. well, to understand the historic apocalyptic worst ever firestorm in los angeles, you can begin with the thought of what a hurricane would be without the wind. it would be a rainstorm.

it could be a heavy rainstorm. but never more than a rainstorm. the water might find some leaks if your roof. there might be some huge puddles out there on the road that you can't drive through. if it's really, really bad rainstorm. but there would be very, very little actual destruction in a hurricane without wind. a rainstorm. wind is the single most destructive force that exists in our natural elements. the destructive force of a hurricane is in the wind. not the rain. the wind speed is what you fear in a hurricane. the wind speed is what they keep reporting you to. the wind speed is what can kill you. that's why they want you to know it. the wind is what you're fleeing when you are evacuating a hurricane. the wind can sink the biggest ships ever built.

the ocean doesn't sink the ships. the wind does. the wind creates those giant waves that can sink those ships. the wind can down airplanes. the wind can rip the roof off a building. a funnel of wind called a tornado can knock down everything in its path. they call it the pacific ocean. when they first saw it. standing on cliffs in what's now california looking out on that ocean because after their experience with the stormy, windy atlantic, they were looking at the calmest ocean scene they had ever seen. the most peaceful ocean they had ever seen when they first stood on the west coast of this continent and looked out at that ocean on the edge of what is now called california. they thought, how peaceful, how pacific. that's what pacific means.

they really couldn't believe that it wasn't just windy all the time like an ocean is supposed to be. but wind is the most dangerous natural element in california. wind can destroy much more than earthquakes can destroy. because when a strong wind finds even the slightest spark, it turns it into fire and then turns fire into an explosion of flame and blows it at everything in whatever direction the wind blowing. the prevailing wind in los angeles, the most common direction of the wind, is from the ocean to the land. the wind carries the coolest of the ocean air, and the moisture of the ocean air. the most dangerous wind, the wind that is burning down los angeles tonight, comes from the east. it comes from the desert areas east of the los angeles and that

wind, that deadly flamethrower wind is named after a saint. santa ana. almost all of the place names in california are spanish, since it is all territory that was once mexico, seized by the united states. even the wind has a spanish name. santa ana. it is as hot a wind that blows in america. it travels over land with none of the cooling power of the ocean. none of the moisture of the ocean. it is dry and when it's traveling over the driest of california land that hasn't seen rain during the rainy season, ignition is inevitable. it has to happen. it has to happen. and that is why before a single spark emerged anywhere in los angeles the fire department issued a warning the night before the fire started saying

that tuesday would be an extremely high-risk fire day in los angeles. not because anyone was going to make a careless mistake with a cigarette, but because of the fact that the warm santa ana wind coming across the driest of winter los angeles in many years would surely somewhere be turned into fire. the question was just how big. and when the santa ana came, it was the worst wind los angeles had ever seen. gusts up to 100 miles per hour. i have never seen winds at half that speed in los angeles. gusting winds at hurricane levels. a hurricane with no rain. a hurricane with only the destructive power of wind until that wind found a spark, and then instead of delivering rain, that wind, that hurricane-force

wind helps the kind of wind that whips at you during a hurricane. whips rain at you during a hurricane. instead of whipping snow at you as it does during a blizzard, that wind, the santa ana wind, delivered what it's famous for. it delivered what it's feared for. that wind didn't deliver fire, didn't deliver snowflakes. it did deliver fire. didn't deliver rain or snowflakes. that rain delivered fire. the wind put that fire where it is tonight. and asking why the fire department doesn't have the resources to put out these fires is like asking why the new york fire department couldn't put out a fire on the 100th floor of the world trade center caused by burning jet fuel. the fire on 9/11 was in an unreachable place for

firefighting technology and everyone knew that. everyone understood. that's why that was so horrible. and that's where the los angeles fires always start. they start in inaccessible wilderness areas where fire trucks cannot reach. it takes a while for people to know that there is even a fire happening in those places, and by that time it's already raging towards homes. and the fire department starts on these fires as far behind a santa ana wind fire as the new york fire department was behind when they rushed towards the world trade center. there was nothing that they could do on 9/11. and that is a human truth that some people refuse to learn. every once in a while there is nothing that we can do. it is not within our human power. every once in a while something happens that is beyond our control and, yes, sometimes that's fire.

everyone knows when hurricanes stop. hurricanes stop when the winds stop. no one has ever stopped a hurricane. that's what's happening in los angeles. it is a hurricane without the rain. it is a hurricane with fire. the hurricane can only stop when the wind stops. meantime, the firefighters are doing as heroic a job as firefighters have ever done in the face of a california fire. everything that i have just told you about los angeles fires has been true for every day of our lives. and quite understandably, most people outside of los angeles, outside of california don't really understand that. the brilliant writer joan didion moved to los angeles from new york at the peak of her writing career. she was from sacramento, so she knew a bit of what she was getting into in los angeles where she added screenwriting to

her literary workload. and 57 years ago in slouching towards bethlehem, joan didion wrote, los angeles weather is the weather of catastrophe, of apocalypse, and just as the reliably long bitter winters of new england determine the way life is lived there, so the violence and the unpredictability of the santa ana affect the entire quality of life in los angeles. accentuate its impermanence, its unreliability, the wind shows us how close to the edge we are. thousands of people in los angeles have discovered this week that they were over the edge and they have gone over the edge into the oblivion of

complete burnout. not just their burned down home, but their completely burned down street in their completely burned down neighborhood. and i remain among the lucky ones living on the edge. in my case, while i am here in new york city, my house is los angeles is on the edge of the fire. fire trucks have been on my street the last 24 hours hoping to hold the line at or near my street. if the winds decide to blow more strongly in my direction. it's not up to the fire. what happens to my house or any house in los angeles is not up to the fire. tonight our homes in los angeles, if they will survive, is entirely up to the wind. and santa ana is going to come back tomorrow. and as usual, she will bring no mercy.

leading off our discussion tonight is cal fire battalion chief brent pag qual in the pacific palisades. what is the situation there as of tonight and what can we anticipate overnight? >> lawrence, i am happy to report today was a good day as far as the winds go. they were predicted this afternoon. tonight we are yet to see them. we are taking full advantage of this time to try to get the upper hand or turn the corner on this fire. >> and it's all about the wind, as i understand it, that for you to get control, the wind has to, in effect, cooperate. you said to me last night, the wind was working in your favor last night. meaning that's what allows you to do your job? >> right. we fought these santa ana wind-driven fires before. we put them out before. the last couple of days were nothing like we have seen

before. it was 80 miles an hour sustained. we were just trying to get people out of the way and then chase spot fires down. today we took the fight to the fire. >> and what can you tell people about where you are in the palisades and the area on the, that western edge of los angeles that edges up to brentwood and santa monica. there is a massive advantage situation zone outside of the actual fire zone right now. and people there are wondering if it's possible that, in your view, do you think it might be possible that saturday might be the day when people can start coming back and trying to take a look? >> i really hope so. i think that's being optimistic. i was up there today. it 12i8 looks like a war zone. there is wires down across all of the roadways. there is trees that have not burned but been blown over by

the wind that are still blocking roadways. so small houses, i saw a gas main leaking where a house was and still fire coming out. so that leads me to believe, i hope it's saturday, but it might be a little longer seeing all the work that needs to be done still to keep it safe. >> what is the cooperation that you need now from people in the area? >> just patience. patience with us. once we get this fire under control, our main priority is to get them back up in there, to see what they have left, what they can find. i know it's tough. i can only imagine being in their shoes. they want to be there now. again they have to have patience. we want to make sure it's safe for them to go back. >> and i always want to ask you, chief, about the people working with you trying to control this fire and what they are going through.

there is a lot of people who are suffering, but there is a lot of people who are working at a heroic pace. what is the typical sleep cycle for people you have been working with? how are you doing it? >> so, the crews i have been talking to, my crews have been taking naps when they can. one guy will get a little bit of shuteye while the rest work. and they will take turns. they don't want to go in, take a day off, don't want to be down for 24 hours. especially when there is still a firefight going on. they would rather stay out there, make do, and again make some progress on this fire. they don't want to be down while there is other people out here trying to put this fire out. >> cal fire battalion chief, thank you very, very much for joining us tonight. thank you and everyone working with you for what you are doing there. >> you are very welcome. thank you. >> thank you. joining us now is nbc news national correspondent morgan

chesky, who is in pacific palisades. what have won able to find today and tonight? >> reporter: lawrence, heartbreaking scene in every direction. we had a chance today to embed with a los angeles fire crew. we joined the captain, who took us on day three of this firefight, and it was so telling, lawrence, what we witnessed how this fire has evolved over the last 72 hours or so. since it erupted here, from what we are told, and a pacific palisades backyard, at least for this particular fire, we arrived on the scene of a home not too far way where i am standing to find a san francisco crew that drove down to help out the crews here, and the house fire likely caused by a single ember that landed in and among a rooftop there. the home fully engulfed. i can't tell you how many times we've heard and now we've seen

crews plug a hose into a fire hydrant and try to get any sort of flow and not have enough to conduct an adequate firefight. the san francisco crews telling us that they had to call for a tanker, precious minutes ticking by as we watched the flames take over yet another home in the pacific palisades. there was a firefighter on the roof who told me, if we had enough water out of that hydrant, we probably could have saved part of this home. instead, it's likely a total loss. even with that tanker coming, by the time it did arrive, it's essentially just a defensive fight to keep the fire from spreading to nearby homes. and we saw that play out yesterday at the eaton fire near altadena and saw that play out again today, and it underscores a lot of the frustration in this particular firefight here. >> yeah, and the officials have explained, president biden conveyed that one of the explanations today about how power had to be cut to many of

the systems that power the pumps of four of hydrants. power has been off on my street all week because of the danger that is felt about the possibility, there is a lot of above-ground, overhead power lines and electrical lines going on telephone poles in those neighborhoods and they are afraid of fires moving across that. morgan, there are so many additional resources we have seen there, including these remarkable planes from canada that dropped down into the pacific just off the palisades, scoop up water, fly it back up over the palisades, and drop it. a family member of mine showed me a video of one of these planes on the first day of the fire. she didn't know what she was looking at when they are going down to land right on to the ocean and scoop up that water. but she just kept her video camera rolling and we figured it out as we were watching it. it's an incredible convergence

of resources on this, including from canada. >> reporter: that's right, lawrence. you mentioned those planes from that fire that we were at so we to see those pilots so skillfully come down to the level of the water, scoop up that crucial water and continue to make drops all afternoon long. we do know that any resources really from anywhere, particularly canada, can help us, help fire crews, rather, try to get a handle on these blazes. at last check, remained zero percent contained despite the drop in the wind here. i should add we know that fire crews from oregon, from arizona have now made their way here in addition to the ones from all over california. one question that i asked the fire captain that i tagged along with today, lawrence, that really struck me is, i said, if you had officials sitting front of you now three days in, what would you ask for to have conducted a proper firefight?

more of what? he said, more firefighters. more working fire hydrants. more fire trucks. he says, more of everything is what los angeles fire department needed to have taken on this fire the best way they know how. instead, what they've had to do is use whatever resources they have to do the best they can, essentially, in conditions that are about as far from optimal as you could get. >> and they have never been more spread out. over a 30-mile range from the pacific out into the interior fire. morgan chesky, thank you so much for your coverage and staying on it for us. appreciate it. and when we come back we will have more on the fire coverage in los angeles, exactly what's happening there. president biden ordered new resources, massive military planes to join in the fire suppression effort.

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when i say impacted, there is basically nothing left in this neighborhood. >> and so that raises the question as you know, local locally for everyone around there and other areas of los angeles, but with the particular fire spot you are covering tonight, is there any anticipated movement of the fire tonight or tomorrow? is there a direction they anticipate movement or do they anticipate no movement? >> reporter: there is a concern right now that up in the hills pushing towards pch, they explained to me there is a pocket of homes that is nestled up there. it is too difficult to traverse on the ground. it is a difficult firefight because of power lines to try to get to that fire. so there is still a pocket of fire that is pushing towards pch, pacific coast highway, pushing towards the ocean, pushing towards malibu, and there are still homes in harm's

way, and that becomes a factor as well when the wind may have died down for now, but they are only expecting the wind to continue in just a few day's time, and that a very big concern. >> i have seen the fire map coverage indicating that down the hill, it down the hill from where you are standing, down into rustic canyon, there is either very little damage or no damage yet, and that's what separates the pacific palisades fire from santa monica. and there is tremendous worry in santa monica that that fire will work its way down rustic canyon and back up the hill on the other side into santa monica. >> reporter: yeah. and lawrence, you're right. you know the west side of los angeles very well. but what they are looking at right now is the fact that the pacific palisades, you cannot access. we are about to put in a curfew here to avoid looters.

no one is allowed in anymore tonight because people have been trying to come in just to go to whatever is left of their homes. not to see if there is anything left, but to pick up medicines, what have you. what was interesting is just before we came on air, i ran into an army colonel, and he said, i have been to iraq and i is been to afghanistan, and now this. i said, you know, are they comparable? he said the difference is in the war-torn countries, he said they are prepared. these people are not prepared. they are not prepared for what they just witnessed. they are not prepared for what they just went through and they are not prepared for the aftermath. lawrence, you understand this. how can they be? we are talking about one of the most desirable zip codes in all of los angeles, one of the most enviable places to live in the entire nation. now it is known as the spot of the worst disaster in the history of the city of los angeles. the worst disaster in the history of the state of california. >> robert, as you say, so many

people are asking each other, and it comes across my texts flying around, can we go home? if they are in an evacuation zone, for example, that is not a fire zone, just an evacuation zone, can we go home to get medicine? some of them are trying to do that. i am not sure how they succeedi. most are assuming they can't. >> reporter: lawrence, you have to first of all show proof of residency, driver's license has to have your address on it, and you have to either convince or have some type of prescription to show the lapd or another law enforcement agency that you actually have to go to your home. then they escort you to your home, and then they immediately bring you back to the checkpoint. that is what palisades has become. and that right now is only from the daylight hours because, as of now, they are not letting anybody in because on top of

everything else this community is going through, they are now afraid of looters and vandals coming into the area. but i will tell you, there is not much left. >> knbc's robert kovacic, thank you for joining us. i know how long your day has been. i have been watching knbc coverage all day. it's the best day to know what's happening there. thank you so much for joining us. thank you. >> reporter: thank you, lawrence. after this break, we will be back with andrew weissmann on the latest ruling in the federal appeals court saying that jack smith's report can be released. that's next.

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in tonight's last word, let's consider integrity. when jimmy carter was born 100 years ago, it was very common for men of any occupation who had the space for it to have a workbench of sorts where they could fix things and make things like kitchen tables and other woodworking feats that used to

be relatively common skills and are now nearly extinct, except among professionals. my grandfather, who was a factory worker, had a bench like that in the basement with a bunch of tools where we thought he could just fix anything, or it seemed to us make anything that the house need. almost everything we heard today in the eloquent and moving comments about jimmy carter at his funeral at the national cathedral i already knew. almost all of it. but there was something important i heard from jimmy carter's grandson, jason carter, that i did not know. something important to me anyway. something that told me more about the man than thousands of words about his public accomplishments. something that would have impressed absolutely no 1-2 hundred years ago. something i wish i could do but

could never do. something that speaks to jimmy carter's competence and his precision and care and planning and devotion and love and artistry. >> the outpouring of love and support we have felt from you and around the world shows how many lives he has touched and how his spirit will live on in many ways for us. he will be in the kitchen making pancakes. or in woodshop finishing a cradle for a great-grandchild. or standing it in a trout stream with mom carter, or for me, just walking those georgia fields and forests where he is from. thank you.

>> yes. there once was a president of the united states who made cradles for his great-grandchildren. young people watching that speech today will be able to tell their great-grandchildren 60 years from now that they lived at the same time that a president of the united states was in his workshop finishing a cradle for a great-grandchild. it sounds like something only one of our earliest presidents would have done. it sounds like something from the ancient history of the united states of america, but it happened in our time.

a man of the sort of common decency that isn't so common anymore did more good after his presidency than any president in history. he modestly went about the most profound agents of kindness any former president has ever delivered here and around the world, including in his workshop. working with his hands in an era when most former presidents can't do anything with their other than hold a golf club. looking for goodness in politicians is difficult because it's rare and because they can fake it. you can't fake it alone in the workshop. that cradle has its own integrity as a wooden sculpture. and in