are some scary weather conditions out there. but day to day the weather should be enjoyed. >> we all experience it the same way. should be enjoyed and loved. exactly. all right. the new book, peek out your window my first book of weather, is on sale now in new york times bestselling author, nbc news meteorologist, and co-host of the third hour of today, dylan dreyer. does she ever sleep? this is what i want with those kids. >> yes. >> and you do the cooking show with cal. >> so i know that's a lot going on. >> it is. i might be, like, insta stalking you. i like that, right. >> and that's it for us this hour. thank you for watching. we're back tomorrow at 6 a.m. for a brand new round of morning joe weekend. until then, please enjoy the rest of your saturday. >> good morning. it is saturday, january 11th. i'm alicia menendez with symone sanders townsend and michael steele. today, donald j. trump is a convicted felon, but he escaped punishment. michael cohen went

to prison for some of those same crimes. he joins us at the table. also here, andrew weissmann and mark eliason. what accountability looks like for trump's second term. an overnight in california authorities ordering new evacuations as the palisades fire continues to grow. we will have live updates throughout the show. so grab your coffee, settle in. it is a very busy saturday morning. welcome to the weekend. >> and just nine days. donald trump will return to the white house as a convicted felon. and frankly, i mean, there's nothing wrong with that. if there were other convicted felons in this country who would have the same opportunities that he would. judge juan merchan sentenced the president elect yesterday in new york, but trump's sentence of unconditional release comes without a penalty. no prison time or probation, or even a fine after a jury found him guilty on 34 felony counts of

falsifying business records, a new york times review found no other case where a felon who committed the same crime received a, quote, unconditional discharge. these people didn't weren't elected president. i mean, it's kind of crazy. as for trump, he took no accountability. instead, he deflected and made up excuses for his crimes. >> the fact is that i'm totally innocent. i did nothing wrong. they talk about business records, and the business records were extremely accurately counted. >> joining us now, nyu law professor and former fbi general counsel andrew weissman. he's now an msnbc legal analyst and co-host of msnbc's new oldie but goodie main justice podcast. also with us is marc elias, founder of democracy docket and partner of elias group. >> so, gentlemen, welcome this morning a lot of interesting

developments around this whole idea that we now have in just ten days time, the opportunity to inaugurate a convicted felon to the highest office in the land. and no one seems to give a damn about that. let's listen real quick if we can. andrew, to donald trump on friday during the new york sentencing. >> it's been a political witch hunt. it was done to damage my reputation so that i would lose the election. and obviously that didn't work. and the people of our country got to see this firsthand because they watched the case in your courtroom. they got to see this firsthand. and then they voted, and i won and got the largest number of votes by far, of any republican candidate in history. >> so, andrew, alicia raised the point about accountability in the opening. how do we hold this presidential felon accountable?

>> well, in terms of the voters, that has not happened in terms of criminal justice system. it is happened in a sort of a sort of weak tea, and that's no shade on judge merchan or alvin bragg. they actually look the best in terms of the criminal justice system. but frankly, our whole country in our criminal justice system looks looks pretty bad, i think should in terms of this country and certainly internationally, people looking from outside in terms of how we have done in terms of holding somebody to account and that just regardless of what the verdict would be, we have a incoming president who managed to escape three out of four criminal cases. and even for the one that concluded yesterday, he received a sentence that, frankly, he would not otherwise have received, but for the fact that in ten days he will be

inaugurated. but otherwise it was clear that judge sharon would not have given him an unconditional discharge. >> mark, the new york times added some context around that decision, writing, quote, a new york times analysis revealed that justice judge merchan had ample ground to consider incarceration since 2014. a third of defendants sentenced to the most serious charge of falsifying business records in the first degree in manhattan received jail time amounting to less than a year behind bars. other defendants received prison time more than a year's incarceration, or was sentenced to probation. conditional discharges, community service, or fines. no other defendant in the cases examined received an unconditional discharge. help me make sense of that, mark. >> you can't make sense of it. >> i think that andrew calling it weak tea is about as strong as you can describe it. i mean, we just have to, you know, i feel like i'm channeling, honestly, my inner chairman steele here. like, let's just be real for a second, okay? the fact is that donald trump

committed crimes in the state of new york, right? let's set aside the federal cases. as andrew pointed out, he skated by he committed crimes in new york. what did the judge do? the judge found that he was in contempt of court several times. no consequences. the judge. and it was obvious that he was constantly badmouthing the jury. he was badmouthing law clerks. he was attacking the judge. no consequences. then it comes to sentencing. the judge says in advance of sentencing, don't worry, i'm not going to actually impose any real penalty in advance of the sentencing even taking place. then that goes up to the us supreme court. the us supreme court says find the sentencing can go forward. but what's their reasoning? and i'm not talking about the for now. i'm talking about the five justices that said it could go forward. they said it could go forward, in part because, number one, there won't be any consequence. number two, he doesn't have to show up in person. number three, it won't take too much of his time. i mean, the only thing we left out is like giving him, you know, parking validation and a and a and, you know, making sure he didn't have to pay congestion

pricing to travel to the courthouse. i mean, was there anything more we could have done, perhaps to make this convenient for, for, for donald trump? and so then the judge does the sentencing. and what does donald trump do? he again trashes this, this, this, this system. and what does the prosecutor do? the prosecutor agrees there should be no consequence. i mean, andrew, how many cases have you prosecuted? how many cases are you aware of where you or someone else prosecuted as the prosecutor saying that there should be no consequence, even if the judge gave no consequence, that the prosecutor agrees? i mean, at the end of the day, okay, fine. he is a convicted felon going into the presidency. but, you know, look in this camera, any one of you, i dare you. and to tell the american people that there is one standard of justice for the powerful and the non powerful, that everyone is equal, standing before the bar of law, that there is equal justice under the law. i mean, i just don't know how you can look at this and say that as as you

evaluate what it means for the country and rule of law and the justice system, that this was anything other than a failure. and this shows what happens when you bring norms to a trump fight. >> here, here, here, here. okay. say you channel. well, padawan. >> look, andrew, i don't know if you agree or not, but i have to say and listening to the sentencing yesterday, i was in my kitchen. honey, i was doing them dishes i should have did the night before, and i. i was aghast as a word i've been using for the last 24 hours. i was aghast at just the enormity of what i was witnessing listening to, because we had the audio on msnbc, and then to hear the president elect get up and trash the judge on a live stream, i was like, what is going on here? what is going on? first of all, you one dude, why do you have to go out? why are you why are you walking out with the belt swinging? i don't understand, but furthermore, it felt very performative. it felt like, oh well, the justice system said,

this is kind of what we should do. so da da da da, especially after the prosecutor was like he did all of these things, yet he's not going to have any consequences. i understand that he is the president elect of the united states. i completely understand that. but let somebody else tell you that actually you're not going to send them to jail, don't you? why are we what are we talking about? complying in advance. i am concerned about the way in which the justice system seems to have made adjustments in and of itself, because of a job someone used to have, and now the job they're going into. i understand it's the most powerful job in the world, but everybody is not equal justice under the law. and if it's not, why don't they just say that i'm help, help me, help me. because there's people out there like me, andrew, that are like, i don't know about this. >> well, look, there's i agree with mark. there's no way to make this palatable. the one thing i can say is that the judge made clear that he was doing this because of the respect for the presidency, not

for the inhabitant of that of the white house going forward. in other words, it had nothing to do with the individual case or the individual defendant. he was trying to make sure that people understood that this was out of respect for the role of the presidency. but you're absolutely right that, you know, normally a defendant can say can spout off and can say all sorts of things and can say they're innocent and do all of all of that. but one, they're usually not about to be the head of our legal system when they do that. and second, it reminds me of a story when i was a sort of young prosecutor where a defendant did just that before he was sentenced. and the judge looked at him and said, you know, ordinarily what you just said is the kind of thing you should say after you're sentenced, meaning that the those statements are usually something that the court considers when imposing sentence

to say, you know what? you showed no remorse. you showed disrespect for the law. you show that you're a recidivist. and all of the there are just so many aggravating factors that the judge normally could take into account. and i think that what we see here is not just that we have two systems of justice. lots of people have talked about how race and class really, really sort of create two very different systems of justice in this country. but there really is a third system just reserved for donald trump and how much the courts have bent over backwards to give him something that no one else would get, and not just because he of his new role, but because of sort of his wealth and his power. he is being treated differently. >> so, mark, before we before we go to a break, i just want to put a capstone on this part of the conversation, because we're here now. we've done it. the system bent over and willingly

gave itself up to donald trump. all right. so the question i have is, do you see corrective measures on the other side of this? okay. simone simone is like, oh, hell no. there are no corrective measures. but i'm just curious if you think the house and the senate in some future iteration of those two bodies, decide, you know what, we're going to recenter the checks and balances in our judicial system in such a way that now we know just how low we can go, and we're going to try to level this thing back up, or we are in a space now that every president going forward can, can do what we see donald trump do and, and as well as, look, we're developing an oligarchy here. we've got a very wealthy small group of, of men who control a lot more than we're writing about in our newspapers. right.

and what is the justice system look like for them if, if we can, because they're in trump's ear. and how much protection does he give him? so what does this system look like after this? >> it's one of the reasons why, right after the election, you know, i came on and i talked to you all about the need to build a new opposition as opposed to a resistance. because the thing is, this is not going to self-correct itself in 60 days or even in two years. this is something that is going to take a while, unfortunately, because as you point out, let's assume that right now, you know, one of the supplicant billionaires who is, you know, in between bowing and scraping, winds up on the wrong side of the law. donald trump will just pardon him. right. so it's going to take a while for us to figure out how, as an opposition movement to build the structures, to build the culture necessary to deal with the new reality. but i think we need to recognize that

it is a new reality, and we need to not sort of cling to as as andrew said, the weak tea. >> all right, andrew, mark, stick around because we do want to continue this conversation after our break next hour. the key witness in the case against donald trump, michael cohen, will join us and be sure to follow our show on social media. our handle everywhere is at the weekend. msnbc. we'll be right back. >> when the temperature drops, you've got two choices. >> close your eyes and think warm thoughts, or open your eyes and get out here. >> there's only one vehicle lineup that embraces everything the cold has to offer. >> the official vehicles of winter jeep. there's only one right now. during the jeep. start something new. sales event. get $3,500. total bonus event. get $3,500. total bonus cash allowance on most 2024

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>> andrew weissmann and marc elias are back with us, gentlemen and particularly andrew. we have our friend out there, jack smith, who's just kind of been buffeted back and forth. talk to us a little about about what this means, where we are now with this report coming out, not coming out. from my perspective, it seems like the runway has been created for him to release everything almost. >> you'd think so, but there are two volumes of the report. there's the january 6th part, and then there's the classified documents part. with respect to the january 6th part, basically on monday, unless things change, the temporary stay that judge cannon issued is over. she

shouldn't have even issued that with respect to either part of the report. but certainly the january 6th part is not a case that's in front of her. so by monday, unless things change, we should see that report related to the january 6th investigation. and there could be interesting new details in that report. with respect to the mar-a-lago part, the classified document part, i think that is something really worth keeping our eye on because there could be lots of information in there, not just about donald trump and why he did what he did, but also about kash patel, who is reported to have gone to the grand jury and has said that he was there when donald trump allegedly declassified everything. so there could be really interesting and important information in that. but there it is not so much judge cannon or the 11th circuit that we have to worry about. it is that merrick garland has said that

he, merrick garland, does not want to release that publicly. he only wants to give that to congress and certain people in congress. why? because he says that there's two codefendants of donald trump, still may have a criminal case pending in florida. i think he's wrong on that. technically, there is no case pending. >> where is the case? what's the case? >> where is the case is what he's talking about? >> you know, and i want to be clear, the people from the department of justice, they do watch this show. so we're going to have some text before this is over. but where is the case? because i don't see the case right now like merrick garland. but come on. >> yes. so i think he got something technically wrong when he said there is a pending case. judge cannon pointedly, when she dismissed the case before her. as to all three defendants, not just donald trump, she ordered the case closed. now, it is true that the department of justice is appealing that decision. as to the two co-defendants. but

come on, a there's no pending case in the district court per judge cannon's own order. and everybody knows that on january 20th that that case is never going to go forward. do you think that in the trump administration, he's going to say, i really want to prosecute my co-defendants and have a trial involving what happened in mar-a-lago, where i would be a key witness? i mean, that's never, ever going to happen. so i think the idea that the department of justice is not trying to release that part of the report, i think is, is just wrong. >> so then, mark, what can happen in the next nine days? >> i mean, anything can happen in the next nine days. i mean, you know, nine days. i mean, we can we can have a whole new set of scandals involving a whole new bunch of, you know, trump, trump nominees. we could have a whole bunch of new court actions. we could have, you know, just about anything can happen. but i want to pick up on

a couple of things that andrew said. the first is there's been a lot of debate over the course of the last four years about merrick garland and about whether he is the right ag for the moment or not, the right ag for the moment. and i've tried to be judicious about this and point out where i think that he has not been aggressive enough or he's not been forward leaning enough and, you know, not burdening him with, i think, unfair criticisms. but this, this would this would set a new standard for him not meeting the moment. i mean, the fact is, there is no chance that whether, you know, in addition to what andrew is saying about the technical fact that there is no case pending, there is in reality, no case pending, and there will be no case. and, and you know, he was quick to say that he would release all of the other independent or special counsel reports, which he did. and to hold back just this one actually, again, would show how donald trump is getting special treatment once again from the department of justice and the criminal justice system. but the other thing that and i'm very interested, andrew, in your take on this, because i want to make sure i'm not being unfair, but, you know, lost, i think in a lot

of this back and forth is what i thought to be a curious decision by jack smith, which was to preview this report with donald trump's lawyers. okay. when i look at the regulations for the special counsel, there is no requirement that the special counsel run this report by the by anyone prior to giving it to the attorney general. and i understand what you're going to say, which is that it's a norm or it's a good practice or it's fairness. but like, honest to god, i mean, what did he think donald trump's lawyers would do once they saw this report, other than run to eileen cannon? and so, once again, it kind of strikes me as one of these norms that that that has predictable consequences. and i would add, and then i'll shut up and take your, you know, if the panel wants to let you answer, you know, i'm pretty sure john durham didn't go to hillary clinton and say, here's what's in the report and do anything. mrs. clinton, you would like to say before i accuse you of a conspiracy, that i don't have any evidence put before a jury to convince people of.

>> well, okay, a couple of responses. one, i would not i would not use john durham as the standard. we should we should follow because there's a whole lot wrong there. you know, i am not going to defend merrick garland and what he's doing here because as i said, i think it is just wrong, both technically and sort of big picture. i mean, there is not a snowball's chance in hell that this case is going to go forward. and so there's nothing about the mar-a-lago report that's going to in any way cause a jury to be unduly prejudiced against these two co-defendants who are not actually don't actually have a pending criminal case in the district court. but with respect to showing the report, i actually think that was a smart strategic move. there was no question that the defendants were going to do what they did before judge cannon, whether or

not they saw the report. remember, they actually got an injunction from judge cannon without even showing the judge the report, without even saying anything about the report that was substantive. and she didn't even ask to see the report. so they were going to do what they were going to do. she was going to do what they were going to do. and i think what it did is it streamlined the process so that that no one could complain that they didn't have an opportunity to see it. so you know what? it's like one of those things that's not the big delay here. it's it gave them more process. i don't really view that as the main problem. i do think it streamlined things and gave an opportunity once again to be heard. but i think the main issue here is that judge garland is going to be the stumbling block in terms of a report on the classified documents part of the case that could be really significant in terms of why the former president and incoming president did what he did with highly

classified documents and with respect to the proposed nominee for the fbi, kash patel, it could have critical information about his story. and that is something that the full congress and the public are entitled to know prior to appointing somebody to such an important position in terms of our national security. >> it's also why we're going to have andrew weissman come back during kash patel's confirmation hearings. andrew weissmann, mark elias, thank you both so much for getting us started. you can catch andrew, along with mary mccord on their new podcast, main justice, formerly known as prosecuting donald trump. each week, they're going to draw on their experience working in the justice department to break down what's happening during trump's second term. you can scan the qr code on your screen right now to listen to the first episode of next. california attorney general rob bonta tells us what is happening on the ground in his home state as wildfires there caused new evacuations. there caused new evacuations. we'll be right back. dry eyes still feel gritty, rough, or tired?

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>> we will bring you the latest on the wildfires in california with the attorney general of california in just a moment. but first, $49 billion. that is how much medical debt will be excluded from the credit reports of 15 million americans. after a new rule was finalized by the consumer financial protection bureau just this week. it is the latest development in the bureau's efforts under the biden administration to advocate for everyday americans. but director chopra, well, his work is not yet done. joining us now is the director of the consumer financial protection bureau, rohit chopra. >> director chopra, welcome back to the table. there's a lot happening. we've got wildfires in california, which are devastating communities there. we've just come out of a hurricane season where we've seen impacts on a number of states. i look at and talk to my friends at in places like

louisiana, mississippi and what they're going through, talk to us about the consumer protection side of disaster relief and how important it is, particularly when you're getting into the insurance conversation and other aspects that directly impact consumers as they try to not only recover but rebuild their lives. on the heels of something as devastating as what we're seeing in california. >> well, like simone mentioned about medical debt and like what you're saying about disasters, so much of our financial lives is dictated by things that we can't control. things like getting a bad health diagnosis or something like getting hit by a hurricane or a wildfire. we're seeing everybody really scared right now in los angeles and the aftermath. they will have to rebuild their entire life, their family life, and in many cases, rebuilding their home. here's what we're really worried about. and that's homeowners insurance

we are seeing across the country. homeowners insurance rates go sky high. and you know what? you need homeowners insurance to get a mortgage in this country. and if it's unaffordable, we're just going to see cash buyers and investors buy up all the housing stock. and those first time homeowners shut out. we're also going to see older homeowners who've paid off their loan, and they're getting canceled on their insurance, and maybe they'll lose everything. so we got to get to work. this is not a coastal city or coastal state issue. this is happening inland areas all over the country because of so many climate disasters and changes in, in, in emergencies we're seeing across the country. >> if i could just real quick, real quick to your very important point about the insurance part of this, i was speaking with a former commissioner, the insurance commissioner in louisiana, and

made that exact same point. insurance is the crisis that no one is paying attention to as we're dealing with these devastating natural occurrences like wildfires and floods. >> remember when people were getting their health insurance canceled because they had cancer? >> that was before the affordable care act? >> yeah, we're seeing homeowners insurance cancellations. the insurance companies call it non-renewal, i call it cancellation, or they're jacking up the premiums so high and they claim that it's because they can't make money. but i also think we have to look at that claim pretty closely. maybe it's just they're not making enough money to suit their own shareholders. >> rohit. good morning to you. i am sad not to be sitting at the table with you and my other two friends. talk to me about this medical debt rule. what does it actually mean for consumers? >> well, we have seen how unpaid or let me say, allegedly unpaid

medical bills have polluted people's credit reports. we know when we go to the emergency room, we don't just get one bill, we sometimes get 5 or 6 bills. it is a dizzying array of co-pays, deductibles, and it's full of errors. we have seen that debt collectors have been using the credit reporting system as a tool to coerce people into paying bills they do not owe, or that they already paid. we project that this rule will have a material impact on millions of people who just want to have the dignity of not being tarred for something that was truly beyond their control. and we believe that this will also raise the credit scores for many who have been unfairly penalized because this this debt is not even predictive of how you will of whether you're likely to pay

other forms of credit. >> one could argue this is you all are doing the real work of fighting for the people out here at the consumer financial protection bureau. what are you doing right now as it relates? i know the medical debt rule just came out. that's something you all you were working on for a while. what are some of the other things you're working on particularly, i think the wildfires and these natural disasters are on everyone's mind right now as we've been. well, i guess this was last night. the governor of california, governor newsom, said that california is preventing insurance companies from canceling home coverage for la wildfire victims in impacted zip codes over the next year. and so the governor is coming out. they're going to step in. specifically, we'll have the attorney general talk about that in a second. what can the federal government do anything on this regard? because this is i mean, this has been happening for a very long time, not just in places like los angeles, but i'm thinking about in florida. you can't get home insurance right now, and if you do, you they're not going to cover you

for the hurricanes. and many, many insurers are pulling out of different markets because they say it's too expensive. >> that's right. we have made it very clear that when mortgage companies are learning about these cancellations, they can't play any tricks on people to harvest unnecessary or exploitative fees from them. but simone, there's also so much that we are doing to prosecute violations or exploitation in the times of disaster. we are telling americans across the country that right now, many of those companies are going to be offering you, actually, and this is good, the ability to put your payments on hold as you recover from the disaster, as your insurance claims are processed, or as you are getting disaster aid. we do not want anyone taking advantage of people who have been the victim of disasters, and we are all praying for everybody, but afterward, we're going to be doing even more work to make

sure that they can get back on their financial feet. >> this may be a little bit outside of the scope of what you're concerned about, day in and day out with your your agency. but what about the prospects of governments now? state governments, federal government looking at where we're allowing people to build their homes? i mean, do we really need to put a home on ground that's below sea level? do we really need to put a home just because you want the view three feet from the ocean and then wonder why that home got washed away during a hurricane or a flood, or in the case of wildfires, putting it on a plane where, you know, because of climate change and other environmental factors, this area is prone to fires. and yet we're allowing people to build there. so in one sense, insurance companies are like, well, if

you're going to put it there, yeah, okay. you're you're know, that's going to be a problem. and i'm not a fan of insurance companies, trust me. but i'm just saying what what is the back end in light of everything that we see from the west coast to the east coast, the gulf of mexico to, you know, storms that happen elsewhere around the country and our hurricane and our tornado valley. what should be the next step that we do to manage going forward? this, this problem where people just building and rebuilding in locations that are problematic. >> i just want to note, as we're looking at the screen and you see this helicopter that is essentially dropping water in los angeles county, this is this is an example where i don't like, what are you do in a situation where it's the it's the wind picking up and dropping these embers anywhere. so then what do people do? michael's

point like it's not like, you know, even people who were inland are homes burnt down, schools burned down, entire lives devastated because the wind picked up the ember and blew it into a yard. >> and, michael, i think folks in western north carolina who live hours and hours from the coast, never could have expected that there would be such devastation in asheville and those surrounding areas. i do think that we have to do more to make sure that we are building more housing in this country, but also that it is resilient from all to all types of shocks. i also really want us to think about those long time homeowners, those older homeowners who have been in their neighborhood for decades, and we have to make sure shaminm for something that and i think that that's got to be part of what we do is make sure those existing homeowners can really stay on a strong financial

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california attorney general rob bonta joins us now. good morning sir. >> attorney general bonta, thank you for being with us today. last night, governor newsom called for an investigation into the water pressure crisis. he notes this. he tweeted this on friday. i'm calling for an independent investigation into the loss of water pressure to local fire hydrants and the reported unavailability of water supplies from the santa ynez reservoir. we need answers to ensure this does not happen again, and we have every resource available to fight these catastrophic fires. what can you tell us about that investigation? assuming it is your office that will take the lead on that? >> the governor is initiating that investigation, and i think it's appropriate to get at root causes for any challenges or obstacles that we've had in our responses to the wildfires in southern california, and to make sure that we fix things going forward, and we're at our best and can deploy all resources and

assets at the capacity needed when needed. >> so the governor is leading on this one, and i think it's appropriate. >> attorney general, the devastation is unlike anything we've seen. and i and i have a number of good friends who are in space close to where the fires are, and they their concern is a water issue. control. give us the latest update of where where things are right now, how the response effort is progressing, specifically with respect to containment in the palisades, etc. because i think, you know, for a lot of us folks here on the east coast in the middle of the country, you know, we're just getting a little bit here, a little bit there. what's the picture? as as we wake this morning and are concerned about our good friends and families and neighbors out in california, in la area?

>> well, first let me say i'm sorry for all of the loss and devastation and suffering for that our fellow californians are experiencing in the southern california area who are touched by the fires or who have lost homes. people have lost lives. they've lost their belongings, they're devastated. and we have loved ones like you who are worried about your friends, family. i'm in that boat as well with a daughter in college there and team members on my california d.o.j. team who have lost their homes and have been evacuated and been displaced. so, so many of us are touched by this, and it's an important time to do what we're doing coming together, lifting each other up, having each other's back, taking care of one another, leaning in and, you know, can't give enough credit to our first responders who are on the front lines, risking their lives, their health, to save the lives and support the health and save the property of others. we're making

progress. >> some early reports this morning palisades fire, after being 0% contained yesterday, is now, i believe, 8% contained the eaton fire, 3%. >> all progress is good. we want to be moving in the right direction towards containment, towards tackling these fires and getting them under control. these are fires that we've never seen before with winds that were spreading them and fueling them in ways we haven't seen before. so we're doing what we need to do. can't come fast enough, but the marks of progress are there. and those are good signs. >> attorney general, i just want to draw our attention to some communities that i fear have not gotten enough attention in all of this coverage. first, this from reuters. you have black and latino families who've lived in altadena for generations. many residents told reuters they were concerned that government resources would be channeled towards high profile areas popular with a-listers. while insurance companies might shortchange less affluent households that don't have the financial means to contest fire

claims. so you have those middle class black and latino families, i want to talk about them. i also want to talk about some of the undocumented population in l.a. county. as you have land crews writing in the washington post who will rebuild los angeles, immigrants to those communities. what can the ag's office do to make sure that they get proper access to resources, to information, and that they are remembered in all of this? >> absolutely. and it's so important to support lift up and prioritize and, and center our communities who are often disadvantaged, who are often closest to the challenges, suffering the worst, overburdened, under-resourced, and make sure that they get what they deserve under the law. >> so our role is to make sure that the law, including equal application of the law to all with no preferences based on income or race, is applied and

that there is uniform treatment across the board. that means when it comes to insurance, when it comes to rebuilding, when it comes to relief, when it comes to government services, government programs, there's no such thing as people who are, are, are, are first in line because of their income or because of their race or because of their zip code. that's wrong. that's not who we are in california. that's not how we do it. that's not how the law works. and my office will ensure that that happens. and so absolutely critical to make sure that those who are suffering often the worst, and all those who are suffering from these devastating fires, receive the services they need, important steps being taken, as you were mentioning earlier in your program, from our insurance commissioner to provide a moratorium on any cancellations or non renewals. so the insurance is there. this is why people pay their premiums in case there's an unexpected disaster. they need the insurance now. now it's time for the insurance companies to step up not cancel not not renew. it's important for california to provide resources for the

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guardian. the misinformation echoes the claims that plagued the north carolina hurricane response. both disasters led to outrage, which partizan actors seized upon to advance their political goals, muddying the already confusing information ecosystem that accompanies a fast moving news event. absolutely. the last thing we need. >> it's also just not right wing fans, though, is the publisher of the la times the publisher? pardon me? they're trying to have me choke. i'm trying to get a t. the publisher of the la times was one of the main individuals spreading misinformation about the mayor. mayor karen bass having cut the budget of the fire department. in these times, i think we have gotten to a place where even within parts of our media ecosystem, folks are rushing to be first as opposed to being accurate. and i'm glad we work at a place where we care about being accurate. but like, this is it's dangerous. and i just i'm just thinking about all those little kids right now, those children all across la

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