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>> welcome back to the weekend. now, it should be no surprise, absolutely no one that donald trump is after facing barely, you know, the bare minimum of accountability. lashing out during his sentencing for 34 felony counts of falsifying business records, he railed against the justice system that essentially let him off the hook. he won't be jailed. he won't be fined. despite being out the word, a convicted felon, this has been a very terrible experience. >> i think it's been a

tremendous setback for new york and the new york court system. it's been a political witch hunt. it was done to damage my reputation so that i would lose the election. there's been a weaponization of government. they call it lawfare. never happened to any extent like this, but never happened in our country before. and i'd just like to explain that i was treated very, very unfairly. >> never happened in our country before because we never had you in the oval office. trump also turned his ire toward his former lawyer, michael cohen. of course, during the trial earlier this year, cohen testified against trump about the payments funneled to stormy daniels. you remember her to keep her quiet before the 2016 election. michael cohen joins us now. he is the host of the michael cohen show on youtube, the podcast mea culpa, and the co-host of the podcast political beatdown. he's also the author of disloyal a memoir and revenge how donald trump weaponized the u.s. department of justice against

his critics. welcome, michael. good to see you, buddy. it's good to see you, too. so who's going to? so how? i don't know where to actually begin on on this one, because there's so many places to start. but this all has come to a to a head. it's now concluded donald trump is a convicted felon. he will be sworn in as the next president of the united states. you've played a major role in taking the country inside donald trump's world in that space. you've paid the price for doing that. what's what's your take right now? how do you look at his response at the sentencing, where he's won everything bent the system to his will if you if you if you will, and yet still lashes out, still petty in those in those moments before judge merchan. >> well, i feel very

unsatisfied, as do many americans. i believe one of two things either there's accountability or they should have dismissed the case as the motion requested put forth by todd blanch earlier. i believe that if there's no accountability, there's no deterrence. >> and if there's no deterrence, no accountability, what's the point to have the case anyway? >> so that we could all just turn around and refer to him now as the felon president? >> i mean, nobody in this country republican, democrat or independent should be turning around and taking solace in the fact that our incoming president, the leader of the free world, is a convicted felon. >> nobody should should enjoy that moniker for him, least of all him. nobody. nobody should. and again, if there's no accounting, all i would have liked to have seen from judge merchan one simple thing turn around and say, not this unconditional discharge, something i've never heard of in

my entire life. in fact, not only have i never heard of it, i went on to chatgpt despite the fact that judge furman, you know, vehemently believes i should never use chatgpt and held it against me. there's another guy i don't particularly care for, but i went on, i couldn't find a single case. i could not find a single case that had an unconditional discharge. how about make it a conditional discharge and the condition would be within the next 72 hours. you have to go work in a soup kitchen or come to new york, where he has that roadway on the west side highway, put on a red jumpsuit and pick up some garbage just so that there's some accountability, some responsibility. i did six years, three years of incarceration and three years of supervised release without a single second. not a second, not a minute, not an hour, not a day off of my sentence. and he doesn't even get a slap on the wrist. so i feel unsatisfied.

>> i mean, i'm sorry for this. i think my silence here, michael cohen, is because i am just aghast. i'm aghast because, you know, yet again, the justice system has failed to meet the moment. and we went through all this hoopla of the court cases and nobody is above the law. and i'm going to treat you like any other defendant. yet regularly, the you, in this sense, is the president elect. he had a little press conference outside in the hallway, not outside the courthouse, in the hallway, outside of the courtroom that had a camera and lights set up so that he could feel like he was being censored or anything like that. and he could speak to the people. when he was on the campaign trail, he railed against the judge, railed against the jury throughout this entire process, railed against you, railed against all of the witnesses, and then goes to the sentencing where judge marchand

telegraphs, don't worry, you're not going to be sentenced. and if you want to come on the video, that's fine. he shows up via video and it still rails against marshawn lynch. as i said last hour, the man is has the goat has won the gold, has won the prize, and he's walking out still swinging i don't under i don't understand it. also worth noting that the lawyers that defended him in this case are now going on to work in the justice department. so you know what? you know what? >> that simone, you know what? donald has taught us all that there are people that are above the law, that when you hear, you know, we're a country of laws without justice. yeah, that's an accurate statement. and worse than that is that the law is not applied equally to all citizens. there are three sets of laws. there's for you and for me and for the average joe and jane. this for those that are powerful, whether it's politically powerful or financially super powerful. and then, of course, there's donald trump. he stands unique and

alone. let's also acknowledge one thing. there is only one way, one that donald trump could have avoided incarceration, some form of probation, some form of responsibility. and that way was he had to win the nomination and then to win the general election, despite all of the everything that was thrown against him, twice impeached, for indictments, civil sexual assault charges, you know, the manhattan attorney general, the manhattan district attorney case, all of this somehow managed to become inconsequential to a plurality of americans who voted for him based upon three words gasoline and groceries. that's an amazing trick, michael. >> i need not tell you you are still on his mind. he's he's thinking about you. >> this is what he wants to call me. maybe he wants to call me and apologize to me. what do you

think? is it possible, donald, if you're watching? my number hasn't changed. >> i think he mostly wants to talk about you on truth social. this is what he wrote just yesterday. oh, boy. as the american people have seen, this case had no crime, no damages, no proof, no facts, no law. only a highly conflicted judge, a star witness who is a disbarred, disgraced serial perjurer and criminal election interference. today's event was a despicable charade. and now that it is over, we will appeal this hoax, which has no merit, and restore the trust of americans in our once great system of justice. >> yeah, i don't really know what to say other than i went to prison in part because of the campaign finance violations. i like how he throws this into my lap. it wasn't just me. yes, the press, the media all decreed that i was the key witness in

this case. but it wasn't just my testimony that ultimately convinced the 12 independent jurors. it was also that of david pecker. it referred back to the conversation that occurred in trump's office, where the scheme was hatched, within which to silence both karen mcdougal as well as stormy daniels. now, i think a smarter move for him would have been who cares? what's the difference? it's far from the worst thing that donald trump has done. yet again, the plurality of americans have decided that this man, who they now know so much about, is the one that they want to lead the country. over the course of the next four plus years. >> you said you didn't know what to say. and i think that's in part because i failed to ask you a question. so let me ask you. it's also true. i'll ask you a more pointed question, which is i was listening to you last

night on with our colleague chris hayes, and you talked about the fact that you have applied to president biden for a pardon. what is your argument to president biden about why he ought to issue a preemptive pardon? >> well, there's many aspects to it, but there are seven individuals who have, we'll call it, sponsored the pardon two members of congress to historical political figures, a former ambassador. i have two constitutional law professors from major institutions, a highly, highly respected, all saying the same thing. there's several different reasons why. one, because of this alleged enemies list keeping me and allowing me to be in danger when all i did is respond appropriately to subpoenas. i didn't turn around and raise my hand and say, hey, call me, call me. i was subpoenaed, very going back to the very beginning, when the senate permanent select committee initially asked me, will you come in and talk to us about russia? and i said, thank

you for the invitation, but no thank you. and so then they subpoenaed me. i went and i saw the president in the oval office. and i said, i really don't want to do this. he said, you have to do it. this is becoming a big story, a major story. my feeling is had i not done it, most of this wouldn't even have happened. so why is he probably angry at me? because, well, i don't know. he probably should have known better, taken my advice and said, you know what? i'm not even allowing you to do it. attorney client privilege? no, he didn't want any of that. he said, you do it. this is a bad story for me. look, how many other bad stories have come out. >> i want to drill down a little bit. michael, on another aspect of this that you and i have talked about both on air and off air, and it was really kind of reflected in prosecutor joshua steinglass. he's the manhattan. he's in the manhattan da's office. and something that he said on friday during sentencing. let's take a listen to that.

>> the defendant has publicly threatened to retaliate against the prosecutors who have sought to hold him accountable in this and other matters. >> such threats are designed to have a chilling effect to intimidate those who have the responsibility to enforce our laws in the hopes that they will ignore the defendant's transgressions because they fear that he is simply too powerful to be subjected to the same rule of law as the rest of us. >> and that has been the endgame all along, and it has been a hell of an effective endgame, because from everything from the supreme court on down to eileen cannon, we have seen exactly what mr. glass has said. the fear that he is simply too powerful to be subjected to the same rule of law as the rest of

us. what are your thoughts there? >> well, my thoughts are. i've been yelling this from the rooftop for now. i don't know, five years, four years. remembe, i was unconstitutionally remanded back to prison for retaliation because i refused to waive my first amendment constitutional right by bill barr, the then acting attorney general in the trump administration. is what the whole book revenge is about. so those people and i've been saying my the reason i keep talking about it is because i don't ever want to see what they did to me, ever happen to any other american again. and interestingly enough, the supreme court denied hearing my writ of certiorari to the supreme court on this important constitutional issue. can an attorney general, a weaponized attorney general, use the department of justice to incarcerate a political enemy, a critic, because they so choose,

and they decided they didn't want to hear it? but they'll listen to whatever trump has to say. but this they ignored. and just to answer one more thing regarding the pardon. yeah, i put in the application for a presidential pardon because i believe that joe biden has the same responsibility to me that he had to his own son. and i would expect that the same exact pardon that he gave his son has to go to me and to anybody else that's on that enemies list, whether they want it or not, because i assure you, solitary confinement, where i did 51 days sucks. >> michael cohen, i believe wholeheartedly that the solitary confinement was just a terrible experience for you. and i think your point about the enemies, the proverbial enemies list, right, is a good one. i wonder, have you heard anything back from the administration? it is my understanding that two things

the administration. one is not going to give a pardon to anybody that doesn't want one. so folks who have prominently gone out and said, i do not want a pardon, the president is not going to issue a pardon to people that don't want one, but two, they'll change their mind when they're sitting behind closed doors that i can assure you, they're going to kick themselves in the backside for that one. i think hindsight will always be 2020. i guess my question is, have you heard from the biden administration and i am struck by your, your, your your comparing yourself and hunter biden and i wonder if. well, let me just tell you, michael cohen on national tv, we have a conversation. i don't necessarily think that's your best way to go get a pardon. i mean, hunter biden is the president's last surviving son. but your point your other point, why i do think is somebody's son also, by the way, agreed. you are somebody's son. but i mean, to be very clear, you're not the president's son. and he pardoned hunter primarily because that is his son, i think i did not ask the president this directly. i want to be very clear, but your

point about the fact that there are many other people who are in the ire of the president elect who could be in danger like yourself, i do think is a strong one. >> and it is, and it's a reality. you know, you have to take donald trump for his word when he turns around. so far, everything that he said that he intends to do, he actually intends to do, and he has been doing it one by one by one. now, it may not all happen on day one, as he said, but ultimately he'll have four years plus with a whole group of individuals that are now going to be filling government positions in order to help him effectuate his goals. >> and michael cohen will have the last word on that one. michael cohen, it is very good to see you. thank you for coming on. much, much more to discuss on. much, much more to discuss next, f you've got a pepto predicament, ace. you overdid it on the loaded fries. undo it with pepto fast melts.

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>> the numbers out of los angeles are so staggering that it can be difficult to appreciate the sheer magnitude of the devastation. at least 11 people have been killed, 180,000 have been forced from their homes. more than 12,000 structures have been damaged or destroyed and sadly, this is far from over. evacuation orders. they have now expanded as the palisades fire heads towards brentwood. that is where we find nbc's dana griffin this morning. dana, good morning to you. what is the latest there on the ground? alicia, good morning to you. >> so we are in the brentwood neighborhood, and as you can see behind me, this orange glow. this is the palisades fire that has stretched farther east. it is now encroaching on this ridge. we've actually got some new flames just at the bottom here that are really roaring. fire officials are relentless in trying to attack this from above. you may hear the helicopters above us. they are trying to drop water on this area. there were new evacuation orders overnight, which was very concerning for people including actor dennis quaid, who was

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more people than not can afford to live in the valley. not everyone lives in on beachside in beachside mansions, so this is an area where you've got a lot of a lot of people that live here. i just had to look it up and realize i live just 11 miles from here. so to see something like this, this close to major areas and communities, it is very unsettling. and people are very concerned across all of the wildfires burning currently in southern california, there have been 11 people killed, 100,000 people displaced. right now you've got the california national guard in that evacuation zone, trying to keep people out so that they don't impede on these firefighting efforts and especially looters. you know, they've made some arrests for looting already. and so people are a little bit concerned about their homes. many residents we've spoken to, they're a little frustrated because they want to get back into their community because they've seen the images. and while some of those neighborhoods are no longer standing, there are some homes

that have been spared. people want to get back and see, is my home still there? or can i sift through the rubble and try to find some mementos? we've seen people finding jewelry in in the ashes. we've seen people walking around looking for their missing cats. so people want to get back in, but there's no update on when they will be allowed back in. right now, there's a big concern about how things were handled when it came to this fire. we know that this was a wind driven event. we had those hurricane force winds, but there was also an issue with the water supply. we have already confirmed with officials that they didn't have enough water pressure. they couldn't keep up with demand. we also know that there was a community reservoir near the palisades community that was offline and empty. and so you've got the governor of california launching an investigation into those water supplies. even though the la fire chief said that the budget cuts $17.6 million, that allegedly mayor bass cut from there, that budget impeded their

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beyond all of that was the fact, i think, that this man had an impact well beyond his four years in office. and history has more than reassessed what he did, as have the american people. and the fact that this funeral really reflected that, i thought was was very, very special. it was a very poignant service, funny, insightful. i love the fact that the eulogies written by vice president mondale and president ford for jimmy carter were read by the sons of those individuals at this funeral, and you get to hear those words from those individuals who knew him best. >> can i just note that, you know, people talk about how walter mondale was the architect of the modern day vice

presidency. and when you go into when you're putting together the office of the vice president, everyone goes back to talk about what walter mondale did. but it was really jimmy carter. it was president carter who was the architect of the modern day vice presidency, and the modern day relationship between the president and the vice president. because when jimmy carter became president and he realized that the vice president don't even got an office up over here right in the west wing, because traditionally, the vice president's office was across west executive avenue in the old executive office building, the oeob. it was president carter who made sure that his vice president was a governing partner with him and was engaged and involved. so i just think as we as we look to this next administration and we examine their working relationship, we think about the working relationship between president biden and vice president harris. that was something every president after them, democrats, republicans. it was jimmy carter who laid the groundwork. >> and there are those reflections from leaders. i also thought the reflections from his

family were really beautiful. if we can, let's play both the cell phone story and then let's play the reflections on carter's love for people. >> and demonstrating that they changed with the times. >> eventually he did get a cell phone, and he one time he called me sort of early on in that process and on my phone it said papa mobile. >> so i answered it. of course. i said, hey, papa. he said, who's this? i said, this is jason. he said, what are you doing? i said, i'm not doing anything. you call me. he said, i didn't call you. i'm taking a picture. >> my grandfather spent the entire time i've known him helping those in need. he built houses for people that needed homes. >> he eliminated diseases and forgotten places. he waged peace anywhere in the world. wherever he saw a chance. he loved

people. >> what i love about that, what joshua said there. think about it, folks. the backdrop to all the crazy political bs that we've seen over the last 15, 20, 30 years. the backdrop to all the global crazy that we've seen and the aggressive, ugly behavior of leaders around the globe, the, the, the backdrop to ignoring the pain and suffering of our fellow men and women who don't look like us. the backdrop was jimmy carter doing the lord's work, doing the work that he talked about and preached about in sunday school every sunday, going out and being an example, as a former president to the rest of the world, that it's time to build houses for the homeless. it's time to feed the poor. it is time to right

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are at mar a lago with donald trump. their goal charting a path forward for trump's legislative agenda. republicans are currently divided on whether it is even possible to pursue trump's efforts on energy, border security and tax policy through a single, ambitious reconciliation bill, or to break up these policies into two smaller bills. meanwhile, we are just days away from the start of senate confirmation hearings for trump's cabinet picks, and one of the first will be his very controversial selection for defense secretary pete hegseth. joining us now, senior congressional reporter for punchbowl news and msnbc political contributor melanie zanona, great question. >> oh, what are you hearing? >> well, i actually this morning, yes. >> pow wow going on down at mar-a-lago because can i just put on the list right here in the middle of the table like some donuts? you know, they having this meeting, but that's not the reality. they're going to come face to face with here

on the hill when they get back. right. so i just just so we all know this meeting really is just perform a bs that's going to lead to just the chaos that was going to happen anyway. right? >> it's a lot easier. no, you're totally right. >> it's a lot easier to have this kumbaya moment when you're down at mar-a-lago in front of president elect trump, versus when you're actually on capitol hill and voting on these things. as we've seen, i have heard from some sources. they did text me last night. i was sleeping, so i touched base with them this morning because it was apparently a long dinner that they had last night. and first up was the house freedom caucus. so this is one of the conservative groups on capitol hill. some of them have defied president elect trump and their own party in the past. so they could really be a problem as they're trying to push this agenda through. i'm told that trump talked about unity. he really preached and tried to hammer that message of getting on the same page. he even said something he says quite often, which is democrats have horrible policies, but at least they stick together. so that was something that i think some freedom caucus members needed to hear. but i'm told that even in the room, there was still a

discussion over this strategy for their reconciliation bills. yes, exactly. and this has been something that has been dominating the debate among republicans on capitol hill over these last few weeks. trump did weigh in and said, i support the one bill approach. that means putting everything in just one bill, the thinking that it would be too enormous and too great for any one person to block it. right, because you have all these different priorities. but there are some in the senate who have been pushing a one bill approach in order to just do one quick bill on the border, put some easy points on the board, and then talk about the other, more difficult stuff later. but during the meeting last night, freedom caucus, even after hearing this whole message about unity, said they still want the two bill approach. so there clearly is still some divide in the republican party here on this. >> what i'm about to say sounds might be a little in the weeds and processing for folks, but i think we'll be talking about it a lot more when this reconciliation process actually comes together. i remember when i was in the biden administration and we had a whole thing about reconciliation, and that is the

surefire way for a president to get everything that they everything that they want done on a particular issue. reconciliation is like, we all got it. we all got to work with everybody else. we can just do it on a party line vote. however, the senate parliamentarian is the person that decides this person that's not elected. okay? there's a person that decides what can go into a bill under reconciliatio. and i don't know if john thune has. senator thune has had a conversation with with president elect trump to say, hey, you know, there's a lady that might tell us we can't do any of this. and when, when, when she says that, i don't want you to tell me to fire her because i don't want to do that. like, that is a part of the conversation we're not actually having, because it's the whole reason why protection for dreamers or some immigration stuff didn't get in there during the biden administration because parliamentarian said, oh, that can't go in there. and people were like, overrule the parliamentarian and fire her. and the democrats at the time

were willing to do that. i don't think john thune would be willing to do that. he's not. what about donald trump? >> so john thune, actually, he's the new senate republican leader in the senate. he has actually said to his own members, we reported this at punchbowl news, do not try to overrule the parliamentarian. so you're right. there is this process. you can't just do anything through reconciliation. there are strict sort of parameters. it has to be related to the budget and the deficit. and so they will go through something called a birdbath, which is the process of figuring out what actually can be done through reconciliation or not. they did do some early sort of groundwork on this to try to figure out, even last year, before they even won the majorities, whether some of this stuff was going to get through or not. so they have somewhat of a sense, but the concern here is that you're going to get into a snare, just like you laid out where trump says, i don't care who this woman is, either fire her or just overrule her. and that could really set up a constitutional issue. this could be a far reaching implications for the institution. and you can certainly imagine a scenario where that might happen. so right now, thune is trying to counsel members not to do that,

trying to also set expectations with trump. but we'll see if that actually plays out. >> so melanie, that's the legislative fight. it happens in tandem with these confirmation hearings. let's pull up the schedule of what we expect to see this week on the 14th. you've got hegseth collins, burgum. that's defense, veterans affairs the interior january 15th. you've got the secretary of homeland security, you've got pam bondi, the ag. you've got marco rubio, secretary of state. there's just look at that. there's a lot happening. and i think it's interesting, melanie, that the same way you have trump delivering the message about i need you all to stay in line and stay together legislatively. he's making the same argument to congressional republicans when it comes to these confirmation hearings. >> oh, yeah. absolutely. i mean, that is the message. stay in line no matter what it is and whether it's legislation or nominations, this week is going to be very telling. i think there are some marquee hearings that you mentioned there. pete hegseth really is one that comes to mind. he is facing sexual assault allegations, allegations about his conduct, drinking alcohol. and this is going to be the first chance for democrats

to really grill him. they can bring in their own witnesses. so we'll see whether they're able to land any punches, whether this moves the needle with some democrats or some republicans, excuse me, who have been on the fence and what trump thinks of it all, you know, if he sees some of these nominees floundering or struggling, he might get a little wary about continuing to support them. so this is going to be a monumental week. but no doubt republicans are racing to try to get all these hearings done. so that way on day one, they can start the process to try to get some of these nominees through. >> since the republicans seem to have turned a blind eye to sexual predation and alcohol, i don't think they'll have a problem. i don't see what all the drama is going to be going into this week, because the end is going to be the end. you had john thune already, you know, say in a call to donald trump, don't worry, we got pete's nominations in the bank. it's done. so i don't understand what all the drama is. i think you're right. >> i do think pete has probably is going to be fine. the only nominee that we're really hearing some noise about behind the scene that could be a

problem is tulsi gabbard, that is trump's pick for the dni, the director of national intelligence. she has made some really problematic statements in the past. she has echoed some talking points that are russian propaganda. she's made a trip to visit the president assad. and so i think she is going to have a really difficult time. she's started to meet with democrats this week. she has started to meet with some key republicans. but behind the scenes, we're hearing there's a lot of concern about her nomination. >> she's not the only unqualified person that's been nominated, but she will be the one that falls. >> yeah. >> melanie zanona, thank you all so much for taking this all explaining in a way that makes it so easy to understand. we appreciate you. we've got much appreciate you. we've got much more patients who have sensitive teeth but also want whiter teeth they have to make a choice one versus the other. sensodyne clinical white provides two shades whiter teeth as well as providing 24/7 sensitivity protection. patients are going to love to see sensodyne on the shelf. okay everyone, our mission is to provide complete, balanced nutrition for strength and energy.

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michael. >> my phone don't recognize me because he got that mustache cut down. i cut it down because i let it. but anyway, let's talk about congress. >> okay, but first, i would like to know i am somebody's daughter. i am somebody's son, too. >> somebody's son too. >> okay. not me. but michael cohen is somebody's son as well. can i just say i love i love that for michael cohen. he said, damn it, i'm somebody's son. i'm sorry for cursing this morning. that's got a lot of. >> i just want i just want all the people who normally come after me to start coming after, you know, what congress is about to get their energy focused on congress. >> congress is about to come after. well, house republicans, they have put medicaid, the affordable care act, climate measures on the chopping block on friday. house republicans, they passed around a menu more than $5 trillion in cuts. i have a question. snap all of that. >> how do you cut health care for the poor? and when you do democrats, what's your response

to that? and if you do, if this is what you want, republicans, how do the poor get health care? what's your plan? you know, because they don't have health care at that point. and when they get sick and because poor people do get sick, where do they go? so since you didn't have a plan for in 2014, you didn't have a plan in 2016. you didn't have a plan in 2018. you didn't have a plan in 2020 or 22. and now in 25. what's your plan if you're putting out cutting, feeding poor kids, cutting health care for poor people? what's your plan? because you just can't cut. you can't just dodge it away and think that poor people just disappear when you cut their programs. so that's the republican side. and democrats, since when you talk about this,

you only talk about medicare and social security and social security. >> protect medicare and social security. >> i like to hear what's your plan when you get the continuing resolution, the bill or whatever the hell form you guys put it i, and you see a line that says, we are not feeding the poor kids and we're not giving health care to poor people. what's your response going to be, alicia? this is coming up. >> i mean, i think i think michael is right to highlight this. i just i really think that people need to be paying attention because medicare and social security, i think that democrats will successfully protect those two. i do think that if something is on the chopping block, it becomes medicaid. and the out is people say, oh, well, you know what? it's a state thing. the some of the states haven't expanded it, haven't taken up the money from the aca anyway, affordable care act. so like we protected medicare and social security though, and i think people need to be on notice that medicaid cannot be on the chopping block. >> and folks, i just put this the way i have because i was the lieutenant governor of the state

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