conversation as always. you too. thank you michel. thank you brendan. we'll see you soon in our next hour. what to make of a painful example of grin and bear it. that will happen in nine days. molly jong-fast will join me in just moments. meantime, a good day to all of you from msnbc world headquarters here in new york. welcome, everyone, to alex witt reports. we begin again with the breaking news and several developments in the california wildfires at this hour. an active firefight underway from the air from above as the air tankers raced to suppress the expanding palisades fire before the winds are scheduled to pick up later on today. looking at it right now, what's happening there in the mandeville canyon area and that fire is now about 11% contained, though it shifted directions. and that is what's led to some new evacuation orders today. just a short time ago, california's attorney general, with a warning not to take advantage of the emergency, saying price gouging and looting. no, no, that's not going to be tolerated.

>> unfortunately, we've seen before that emergencies like this, in addition to bringing out the best in so many, also bring out bad actors who seek to use the trauma, the chaos of moments like this for their own gain. >> we've seen that before, so it's important for us to be prepared now. >> and across l.a. county, utter devastation. at least 11 deaths are confirmed. city officials do expect that number to rise. 153,000 people are now under evacuation orders. la residents, meanwhile, are trying to come to terms with this new reality. >> seeing our home go down, our memories are just everything about it. it's yeah, we're hurting a lot. >> the further you go up, it's just an absolute wasteland. >> sometimes you get knocked down, but we're just not going to be knocked out. you know? it's we you fall down and we get right back up. >> we have nbc's ellison barber joining us from the pacific palisades, and meteorologist

denise isaac will have the latest on all the wind advisories as i welcome you both. we're going to start with you, ellison, there in the palisades park area where those flames have burned through over 21,000 acres so far. talk about the conditions on the ground. have you heard any details about this fire that has extended now into mandeville canyon? we've been watching the air tankers, that's for sure. try to drop retardant the retardant on on those flames and maybe reports of one house having burned in that one. what are you hearing right now? >> there are still four active fires. the smoke, the haze you see behind me. that is from one of the most recent blazes. the two largest fires, the palisades fire. the eaton fire. progress has been made on containment. the palisades fire, according to cal fire officials, has burned over 22,000 acres. it's now at 11% contained the eaton fire that has burned over 14,000 acres. it's now at 15% contained. this area here. this is where a lot of people,

residents who live in these communities, are waiting, some of them standing, some of them in this long line of cars trying to get back towards their properties to get things from their homes, if their homes are still standing, or just to check to see what is left. but right now, if they live in a mandatory evacuation zone, they're not allowed to go back home. and there's a lot of frustration here because of that. people saying that they need to have access to these areas, and they want to know when they can get back home and see what is left, or get supplies that they need in the areas to take back to the areas where they're now staying. there also has been a lot of back and forth of late between the la fire chief and the mayor of los angeles, karen bass, the fire chief, fire chief crowley saying in an interview with our nbc los angeles station that part of the issue, in addition to those unprecedented winds, was the budget cuts that she says her department has faced in the last year. she says for the last three years, the la fire department has been both understaffed, underfunded and under-resourced. that being said, though, we saw both the

mayor and the fire chief at a press conference earlier today standing side by side, trying to downplay some of those tensions, the mayor saying that their main focus right now is saving lives and properties and that any of those differences will be dealt with in private. but for a lot of people on the ground, the question is when can we come home? when will these fires be under control? and for now, it doesn't seem like there's a clear answer. again, there are still four active fires being fought right now. reporting in brentwood, california. i'm ellison barber, nbc news. >> all right. thank you for that. ellison. we are hearing from firefighters on the ground in los angeles as the crews work around the clock to control these flames. let's take a listen. >> unified command here. and this whole team is coming together very effectively. and all the wheels are in motion. obviously, we have this event, this fire burning combined with the santa ana winds, and it keeps on growing. but the right resources are being allocated at the right times, and they're

being sent to the highest priority level, as we've been seeing here this morning, is the timing is pretty spot on, you know, and you got to remember that these air resources are having to come and go and just kind of rotate. they're being requested from this incident to go to other incidents. so it's you got to weigh the balance of, you know, where they're needed the most at a specific given time frame. >> you've been watching out here now for hours like we have. what can you tell residents that live in this brentwood neighborhood, from your knowledge as being with the fire department? >> so just stay be stay alert. like have some obviously some form of communication handy. be in, make sure you have reception and just heed the warnings. >> yeah. good advice there. and joining me now nbc news meteorologist denise isaac, with the forecast on those winds that have been fueling these fires. so we understand, denise, that winds are expected to get worse again before they get better.

what do you know? what are you expecting? >> yes, alex, that's exactly what we're expecting right now. >> for the largest fires over the eaton and also palisades. >> the wind is fairly calm. >> we're tracking winds of three miles per hour near the palisades fire and over towards altadena, 6 to 12mph. so hopefully this will help firefighters. but once we talk about santa clarita winds right there right now are 50mph and the wind is expected to increase tonight and into tomorrow. so this is not good news for the firefighters as we're tracking here. critical risk includes places like santa clarita down towards temecula, even places down towards escondido, now down into an elevated risk to see that fire threat across their area. so the good news for tomorrow at least, is that the critical risk part kind of shrinks just a little bit. but the fire danger is in place today and tomorrow. and for

those wondering, well, how about next week? well, sadly, next week an area of high pressure comes in. that will happen monday night into tuesday. and this will allow that strong high pressure system to drop into the great basin, bring in those santa ana winds or those winds from the mountains, compress it, heat it up, and then more. expect at least the santa ana winds. we're expecting them to ramp up once again monday night into tuesday, with winds ranging anywhere between 40 to 70mph, humidity still very low 5 to 15%, which could lead to weather conditions to be critical for fire threat. once again. alex. so no break, at least over the next five days. >> got to tell you, denise, i'm just getting an alert from los angeles times echoing what you're saying. the headline high winds, low humidity expected to fuel fires through the weekend. quote, not looking good. okay, sobering. all of this. thank you very much, denise, for that. and

the devastating fires across the los angeles area have forced at least 180,000 people from their homes, leaving apocalyptic scenes of destruction behind. and just weeks after narrowly escaping the franklin fires in malibu, one couple was forced to literally run for their lives again. when the palisades fire reached their home. joining me now, malibu resident alec jealous and alec, i'm glad to have you here with me today to talk about this. so i'm just going to say flat out, i cannot begin to imagine what you've been through to survive. first the franklin fire, now the palisades fire. how do you make sense of it all? how much have you lost? >> it's been totally crazy. if the franklin fire was the charging gorilla, this was like godzilla. >> so i was able to save my house. >> during franklin fire, we basically super soaked the whole house, turned it into like a lush tropical rainforest. the fire couldn't get to it. i tried to save my girls house. >> this fire wasn't able to.

that's me running through the flames. there was no oxygen suffocating a blizzard of embers. >> it was like hornets that were on fire swarming me, and there wasn't really anything i could do. >> i barely could make it to my car. i wish i could have bashed the i wish i bashed the glass screen door of her place and got in to get more oxygen to stay longer and try to put out more fires. >> but it was an inferno and there was 50 foot walls of fire, so much smoke there wasn't anything i could do. >> and you're talking. are you talking about kelly's home? is that is that the one you were trying to get to? oh, i'm so sorry. so it it's gone. >> it's gone. she lost everything. it's devastating. yeah. >> and, you know, there are new evacuation orders today as this palisades fire is expanding east. what what is it even like evacuating? and where are you staying now? >> i'm still in malibu. i have cousins that live in the palisades. i have cousins that live in bel air. i have an apartment in beverly hills. and

it's just like all the places in la that i grew up and spent the most time in are on fire right now, and it's just doesn't seem like a real situation. it's just completely unreal. and we've had three fires in the last three months. it doesn't seem possible. >> yeah, i know you've been sharing this harrowing video of just how close you were to the flames when they descended. what is that even like? and by the way, are you feeling the effects of smoke and all the toxic air around you? >> luckily, i'm super fit and i'm able to stay and fight the fires and not feel really any effects on my lungs. and yeah, i'm i'm good, i feel good. still. just got the adrenaline pumping through me. but yeah, it's toxic out there. so everyone needs to be really safe and take care of themselves. oh, 100%. >> how about your friends and neighbors, alec? i mean, have you been in touch with any of them? and i'm curious, your sense of the outpouring of public support, have you felt it? what has it been like, and what do you still need? what does the community need?

>> yeah, during franklin i was able to save a couple homes. unfortunately wasn't able to save any on this one. the community is going to need a lot of support. most of these houses that burned in malibu will be a nightmare to rebuild. there's permitting issues. it takes maybe a decade, sometimes even more. so a lot of a lot of people lost everything. and it's going to change the community for a long time to come. so yeah, everyone needs to get together and help out and just do do good for other people and their neighbors. and i think everyone with these fires now should really prepare and get their houses ready to get ready to evacuate. and if they, you know, water your house down, make sure you take the steps to do what you can to make sure your house is safe. yeah. and don't be frantic. stay calm, stay collected, and just be confident with your exit plan. >> you know, firefighters are working 24 over seven, as you know, to put out these fires. but what do you want to see in the government's response? what do these next few days even look

like for you? >> yeah. let's see rick caruso run for mayor and win. >> that's local government. have you thought about state, about fema, about the federal government as well? >> yeah, i haven't really been thinking about that right now, but we definitely need a big change. what's happening in california isn't working. the state is totally dysfunctional and we need to do a better job. >> let me ask you, when you think about the future after all of this, just shock, you know, a couple of months from now, do you think about rebuilding, about staying? have you given thought to leaving the area, or are you like me, by the way, a californian through and through? i just happen to live and work in new york, but i'm an l.a. girl, i get it. >> yeah, i got i got new york in

my dna. but i'm california through and through. if i wasn't here, i'd be in bali. >> okay, well, there's one place to think about. do you surf? is that part of this as well? >> yeah. yeah. i love to surf. there's no waves and. yeah. okay. >> alec gillis, i want to i want to thank you so much for your candor and for smiling through all of this. it really brings ay look, look to the future and be the phoenix that rises from the ashes with with change comes opportunities. >> and everybody who lost something needs to mourn but also embrace it. >> i love your attitude. i hope it is infectious for the people who really need it. alec. thank you. best of luck to you. well, the clock is ticking on tick tock what the future might hold after the supreme court heard arguments yesterday. we're back arguments yesterday. we're back in ah mornings! cough? congestion? i'm feeling better. all in one and done... with mucinex kickstart. aaaaaaaaaaaaa.

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>> how were those first amendment rights really being implicated here? >> the court has never held that a foreign government has free speech rights. >> you're wrong about theute beg tiktok. you have to go mute because tiktok can continue to operate on its own algorithm on its own terms, as long as it's not associated with bytedance. >> joining me now we have harry litman, former u.s. attorney, former deputy assistant attorney general and author and host of talking feds on substack. harry, welcome, my friend. so donald trump asked the court to block this ban. and if the justices defy him, could trump potentially undo a tiktok ban with the stroke of a pen once he takes office? that would happen 24 hours after it goes into effect. >> by law, the short answer is no. >> the law is passed by congress. >> it says chinese companies you can't do business with. and just to decipher a little bit of the of the dialog from the court up front. bytedance is a chinese

company. tiktok is not. but the question is who's first? speed? first amendment rights are being infringed. that's really where the court was going. that and justice alito saying there's an important foreign policy issue here. but no, if come the 19th, it goes into effect. you need a congressional enactment, as you had in the first place, to undo it. you can't do it with a stroke of a pen and listen issues about free speech that were presented before the court. >> you heard ketanji brown jackson, she say, this is not about trying to mute people or free speech. it's about changing ownership. tiktok can continue to exist in this country after january 19th if bytedance sells it. i mean, is that the solution? >> well, we'll see what the solution is forced into if they don't get there. but it's totally right that they're choosing to use bytedance's algorithm. they could choose to use another one. the immediate question is whether these

important foreign policy interests saying don't consort with china are somehow trumped because it's tiktok's first amendment right, and the court seems strongly to be trending in the direction it's not tiktok speech that's being suppressed, it's bytedance. it just has incidental effects on tiktok. so if they uphold it. alex, we'll see what kind of corporate moves are scramble to keep tiktok here, but for it will certainly be interrupted for a time. >> yeah. well we've got eight days to see what happens. this all goes down next sunday. let me pivot here because also news new rather today, another attempt to delay the release of jack smith's report on trump's actions related to classified documents found at mar-a-lago. the doj is fighting against attempts to block the release of this, as well as smith's report on trump's january 6th actions. what do you think we might see in these reports, and why does the department of justice want

to make them public? >> well, i mean, that's a pretty basic kind of public knowledge imperative, right? we saw it with other special counsels, including robert her for trump, and i think not just doj, but society has a huge stake in seeing what smith has uncovered. to the extent he can show it, there will be redactions. and also, alex, the process requires him to reveal why he made decisions not to bring cases against certain people, not to bring certain charges that could have disqualified trump. so that's what i think we really do want to see. we should brace ourselves for some redactions, but that's what we want to see in terms of where it is in the law. it's a big mess right now, mainly because of good old judge aileen cannon, but i think the short answer is by probably monday, the 11th circuit will clean it up and make clear that volume one, which doesn't have to do with mar-a-lago. garland can release right away volume

two, which does. it's only if they dismiss the other two co-defendants, which they may do. but unless and until they do, volume two stays under wraps. >> can i ask you, judge aileen cannon? does she even or aileen cannon? i know there's been different pronunciations, but does she even have jurisdiction over the election interference case? >> absolutely not. and no one would say otherwise. nevertheless, if and she probably doesn't have jurisdiction even over this case because she dismissed it, it's now with the 11th circuit. nevertheless, a federal district court judge named aileen cannon entered a piece of paper that said doj. you can't say boo on this report. it's a bad order. and that's why the doj has now gone to the 11th circuit. it's a bad order. and she didn't have jurisdiction in the first place, but they have to undo it rather than just, you know, ignore it in a current pending order. okay. >> and by the way, you're

calling her eileen cannon. i'm going to use that as well. i think that's right. okay. this fight over the release of jack smith's reports, can it go all the way to the supreme court? and if it does, will the justices allow trump to run out the clock? i mean, the typical trump playbook so he can then order them sealed when he takes office on january 20th? >> very possibly. and we all have to be afraid that he goes in there and everything, all the copies are there. there are other ways they could be lodged with congress. they could be lodged with biden, who can do things with them. they could be lodged with a court. but you're absolutely right. if the 11th circuit makes clear, i think on monday you've got you've got a green light here. d.o.j. trump can appeal to the supreme court. very weak claim, but can he eat up enough days while they consider it so that it's effectively done? because come january 20th, everything changes? that could well be his game here. >> so trump now has a new place in history as the first former president to be sentenced in a

criminal case, and the first convicted felon who will be sworn in as president. do you agree, harry, with the decision to let him off with no penalty whatsoever? >> well, look, the i think that mayor chen was pretty prudent and wise here. he just separated out the personal, personal consequences to trump, to the fact of conviction. that fact, i think, is crucial to have in history. and, you know, to have that scarlet letter, the other that he got nothing, not even a slap on the wrist, i think was mere chance accurate assessment that if i give him anything, they're going to stop me in a higher court. they will freeze, freeze. me and the supreme court when it said, go ahead by the skin of our teeth. right. five four vote. they did say it's only going to be an unconditional discharge. so in that sense, it had to be done. and i think what he preserved is way, way more important for history, which is part of what's going on here than what he let go.

>> let me just ask you one more question, harry, because you're a fellow californian, what are your thoughts as our hearts are breaking together for this disaster still unfolding there? >> and the news is rolling in. i just this morning heard about two good friends who are completely homeless. my number one, my first thought is just as you say, alex. oh my god, what , what a tragedy. and my second is what a mess in terms of in particular insurance. i, as a californian, haven't been able to get fire insurance even down where i am. i think there going to be a lot of people who are really holding the bag, and it's going to be a huge public policy problem. >> yeah, i totally agree with you. we'll have to talk about that in the future, because it's definitely a conversation that is pending. harry litman thank you my friend. always good to see you. thank you. it is a wasteland. some of the worst words said and felt by california residents as they return home after these wildfires.

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>> we got fire down here on the first floor. >> we try to hose our house down before we left, but it's gone. water pressure has been a big issue. it's a waste. it's not much. >> we couldn't even recognize it on our way up here. >> fireplaces in the living room. and the kitchen was here. and so the kitchen and the dining room. and the living room. >> it is all chilling. but amid the catastrophe, there are glimmers of hope. as californians and areas just outside the fire zone are helping evacuees. and one of those is father christopher alonzo, chaplain at saint francis high school in la canada, california, and franciscan franciscan friar of the american western province, who himself was evacuated along with his fellow friars. father alonzo. thank you for being here. look, the neighbor is not very far from. you've been devastated in this eaton fire.

what about you and the families in your community and the parish? how many so far have been directly affected by the fires? >> so thanks for having me. so i live at saint francis high school, which is in la canada, which is just right across the wash from altadena. we're right by jpl and the rose bowl. we got evacuated on wednesday early in the morning, and i live with six five other friars. we have i got a nine year old and an 80 year old friar. we all went down to the pasadena convention center. we got down there and kind of got centered there until we could find other housing. and, you know, it's it was just really tough to see the fires going. we ran into families. we knew who were down there trying to get housing lined up and have lost everything. we've, we've, we've we've got, you know, people connected with our faculty staff, our students, our

alums. a lot of people have just been devastated, lost everything. and, you know, we are a lot a lot of people from from that area come to our school. so we're one of the two local catholic high schools in the area. and, you know, the retreat center where we used to always go and do retreats is just devastating. and people have just lost everything. and, you know, we just it's just it's just a challenge. it's a challenge trying to help people and just trying to get the resources they needed to start just to even get to the next few days. >> is saint francis high school, is it still standing? >> yeah, yeah. we've been we're blessed because i think part of the reason is because we're right by jpl, which really helps because, you know, that's a huge, important thing right down the street. yeah. and we're across we're across the wash. but it came close. it came. you could see the flames from our balcony. yeah. even before we evacuated. >> what about your ministry? because we know that it feeds the homeless in your community.

this is through the capuchin family kitchen. i hope i'm pronouncing that right. yes. so you've. you've had to expand your efforts since the fire. so how many are you serving and what kind of challenges are you facing? >> so we initially started this ministry after just after covid as the homeless population in california started growing. and we always knew that the possibility would exist, that we might use this in a disaster scenario, and we didn't realize it would be in our own backyard. so we typically we go out a couple times a week. we serve in downtown los angeles and one of the local shelters nearby in glendale, ascensio, and we've we've had to mobilize our efforts. so instead of feeding maybe 2 or 300 people within a within a couple days, we're feeding that in one service. so within the last couple of the first couple of days we were serving, you know, there's some meals we were serving 300 or 400 or in the breakfast, excuse me,

or lunch or dinner. we started out we started out the we started our work at the convention center. we were the only food truck there. within the first first day we there was now there were a couple more there. world central kitchen, which has done a great job of responding, has really helped coordinate the efforts. one of our graduate sisters was actually helping coordinate the efforts. and so when she ran into her, we were able to, you know, she was like, hey, look what's going on. we connected and say, hey, look, is there any way we can use the we can utilize the school site to help? and i said, yeah, let's, let's do it. so we have world central kitchen with our food food truck right now here. we were so we went for the we went from the convention center. then we went to the rose bowl where the first responders were. and then, you know, yesterday, you know, in and out showed up. so we have the you know, they bring in their big trucks. you know, we're feeding you know, we're you're a little mom and pop kind of thing going on. so they got they have a lot more as the as the numbers grew there they got the bigger resources in.

>> so i mean it's in and out burgers. come on. we all know that they rule. >> we can't compete. >> let me let me ask you though, you must have learned some lessons because i understand you were in louisiana after hurricane katrina in 2005. have you been using that experience over these last few days in la? oh, yeah. >> oh, yeah. i would have to say that. i mean, just go back to, you know, i was in louisiana before i was a priest, friar. i was a, i was a teacher working down in baton rouge. and katrina hit, and my first instinct was to go down to the convention center, where the evacuees were coming in from new orleans. and it was chaos. it was absolute chaos. people were coming to you asking what was going on. stuff was coming in, you know, donations were coming in. it was unorganized. and but what was really powerful for me was seeing other other, you know, people of other denominations, other priests and seminarians down there. and that really inspired me to kind of get involved in ministry like this, even becoming a priest because

of seeing their work. and i think instinctually, as soon as i heard this was going, i was like, we need to get the truck down there, because i know that the food, you know, the, you know, we have, you know, we have stuff ready to go because we're already planning on servicing people this weekend. so we already had food on hand ready to go. so we just moved. we just started serving right out. you know, as soon as we got there at, you know, 430 in the morning, i looked at one of the other fryers at five and said, hey, look, i think we can get the truck down here and be able to serve up luncheon time. so brother lance got the truck. i got everything, other resources lined up. and, you know, i think one of the things that would really for me was with katrina is just being present and, you know, having the resources there and just kind of being flexible where to go and just being patient because, you know, a lot of people just don't know how to respond. and it's just they just don't know what to do. and you got resources. you kind of be there and just be present to

people being present, listening, caring. >> i'm going to borrow a phrase from you as i wrap up this interview and just say, bless you for what you do. thank you so much for sharing it with us. i'm sure there are countless people really grateful for you and your efforts. thank you so much. >> thank you so much for having me. >> if hearing these you wondering if you can help, you can scan this qr code on your screen to find out exactly what you can do. coming up next, we're going to turn to politics and the bitter pill to swallow and the bitter pill to swallow for an (♪♪) hi neighbor! you switched to t-mobile home internet yet? trim your hedge. it's $35 bucks a month with no price hikes! bam! it runs on t-mobile's wireless 5g network, so all you gotta do is plug in one cord! t-mobile 5g home internet. just $35 bucks a month. and with price lock, we won't raise your rate on internet. i did it! aaahh!! i switched to t-mobile home internet, and i am loving it! don't sneak up on me like that. (♪♪)

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infamy. so what went through your mind watching the vice president as states were certifying their votes one by one? >> yeah, i mean, it was in some ways really, you know, she had to preside over losing again, right? she had to hear all these numbers and hear who voted for her and who didn't. but she made it really about government service. and, you know, i'm reminded of what hillary clinton said in 2016, right. public service is about serving the public. and that was what she did. you know, she certified the results. she presided in exactly the way you're supposed to. and while it definitely stings for a lot of people, i think that, you know, we are in this moment where protecting norms and institutions is almost as important as it's ever been. and we still have one party that does absolutely believe in those norms and institutions. the hope is that there are enough people in the republican party that will protect these norms and institutions as well.

>> so let's take a listen to this, because after the certification, she spoke briefly to the media. and here's a little bit of what she said. here it is. >> it was about what should be the norm and what the american people should be able to take for granted, which is that one of the most important pillars of our democracy is that there will be a peaceful transfer of power. i do believe very strongly that america's democracy is only as strong as our willingness to fight for it. otherwise it is very fragile, and it will not be able to withstand moments of crisis. and today, america's democracy stood. >> so picking up on those last points that you made, your thoughts on seeing democrats follow the rules that republicans in support of donald trump disregarded four years ago, rules democrats are defending now to ensure the peaceful transfer of power. what does it tell you about how the two parties view democracy and its institutions?

>> so i think democrats are doing this for two reasons. one, because it's the best chance that that democracy, small d democracy has right that it is the really the only way. and also it's the right thing. and i think there's some hope that doing these things the way they're supposed to be done will be a good example for the next the incoming administration that they will be. and again, these are just speculations. and i think that this is very much a sort of, you know, an optimistic tact. i would also add that i'm not convinced that democrats have a lot of choices here, right? i mean, they have to do what is mandatory and certifying the election results is mandatory. >> yeah. i want you to read the room on thursday, as harris appeared to ignore trump at former president jimmy carter's state funeral in washington on thursday. though trump and president obama seemed to share a friendly exchange, but seeing the five living presidents

seated together in the national cathedral, that made as clear a statement about the transition of power in this country as anything during the election. certification. what's your take on harris snubbing trump and on the once and future president sitting alongside predecessors that he has slandered or promised to take revenge against? >> well, so remember, democrats are trying at least elected democrats are trying a different tactic this time. >> and they're trying they feel like resisting. trumpism didn't necessarily net them the kind of wins, though they were able to prevent trump from dismantling a lot of important things in the federal government. the question is now, can they use. can they sort of work in the guardrails of trumpism, whatever that looks like, to get him to agree to sort of softening his portfolio? like, we know he's going to have a plethora of executive orders,

many of which are going to be really untenable, some of which may not hold up in court. and so democrats, i think and i think this may be wise. again, nobody knows because nobody knows what's going to happen. but are they trying to sort of keep their powder dry for when it's really an emergency, when it's something that the courts can come in and stop? and i do think that is very important. and i do think being focused on really the legal questions is where they have to be right now. >> okay. molly jong-fast spoken as you always do, with great enforcement and conviction. we love that. thank you. the deep love that. thank you. the deep freeze hits the deep here's to getting better with age. here's to beating these two every thursday. help fuel today with boost high protein, complete nutrition you need, and the flavor you love. so, here's to now... now available: boost max!

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>> if you've watched this show regularly, you know i'm an la girl. i was born not far from the devastating eaton fire. i've spent countless hours in the neighborhoods of the palisades fire, but my family settled in a part of la between the two, and i'm grateful they are safe today. despite living many years here in new york, i've never not considered la my home, my frequent flier miles. they are proof in pursuit of touchstones with family and friends and soaking up everything quintessentially la. bearing helpless witness is my hometown. endlessly, burns brings an anxiety and heartache of its own. the texts, the phone calls from the loved ones sharing their shock and heartbreak at the total loss of the stuff that makes up a life, a home where they created memories with their neighbors and community. a place where their work brought meaning and purpose. and now we're into reports tuesday of the palisades fire. i was sent this picture of

a typically beautiful winter day in la, but with it came a sense of dread at that distant cloud of smoke hanging over the coastline. this is what was happening under that cloud. people trying to escape the smoke and flames, their eyes stinging in the haze, finding it hard to breathe. the toxic air. these heroes helping carry people to safety who couldn't get there on their own. these pictures show the shells of what was once there, mostly reduced to ash markers of the lives lived inside them. people who created a place of belonging and welcomed neighbors, friends and family. places to end their day and find safety and rest through the night before greeting the promise of the next day. firefighters are a special kind of person, risking life and limb against insurmountable odds and 50 foot walls of raging flames. this week all across la, just to save something belonging to a stranger. they sometimes aren't getting everything they need to do the job, and they definitely aren't getting sleep enough. but

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