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flames, as well as more than 12,000 structures destroyed. we have late word this afternoon that governor gavin newsom has deployed an additional 1000 national guard troops to the area. officials at every level of government has been mobilized to deal with the catastrophe, helping to find shelter for those who have lost their homes and protect the property they've left behind. president elect trump, for his part, continues to lob insults and criticisms at california's political leaders on social media, but has still not accepted invitations from the governor and l.a. county chair to come see the devastation for himself. let's start with nbc. nbc's liz crites in los angeles. liz, tell us

about the latest in the area you're in and what is going on behind you right now. >> well, hey there i am in. >> what was the palisades villages, really? >> the watering hole community gathering place for the pacific palisades, where there was everything you'd expect in a normal strip mall in california, a starbucks, a bank, grocery stores. all of that gone. this is was a three story office building here, now completely reduced to rubble. and just some parts of the remains of this building behind. there was a berkshire hathaway. i mean, normal parts of a community completely destroyed here. right now, we know that firefighters are working hard to try to continue to get a handle on this fire. they are making some progress. of course, it's not going to help that. we do expect some of the winds to pick up. there's a red flag warning through wednesday. officials have said again the death toll stands at 16 between the two fires. five people have died here in this fire. the palisades

fire and one of the things right now is just so many folks, thousands of folks who lost their homes are just trying to get back, trying to see what's left of their property, see if they can find anything amidst the rubble. one of the people that i was just with actually was a gentleman. he lost his home in the palisades fire, but he had also lost his dog. one of his dogs was missing. i met him on tuesday, right when everything was beginning. i rushed here to the fire. he was rushing back to try to get to his home in the palisades. he couldn't get past the roadblock. i saw him in distress, crying. a firefighter saw him too and said, you know what, let me help you. i'm going to go to your home. i'm going to check on your dogs. he was able to retrieve one of the dogs. the other dog ran away when the door opened. he is behavioral. he ran away. he's been missing for five days. well, he had just. someone just cited him and i went along with the owner as we went back to his house. we have this remarkable video we'll play for you, where this gentleman was able to reunite with his dog, his dog

oreo. >> he had been missing for five days. five nights he spent amidst the rubble. some neighbors had spotted him over the past few days, sleeping in chimneys, sleeping in what was left of people's homes amidst the rubble. now he is back reunited with his owner. >> and i share that, just to show that there are some glimpses of good news amidst all this devastation right now. and it was just honestly a remarkable thing the cal fire firefighter did. if he had not gone that day on tuesday and opened the door and let the dogs out, those dogs likely would have perished as they would have been trapped in the house that just an hour or so later, burned to the ground. >> well, that is very touching. amidst all of this other heartbreaking situation there. thank you to nbc's liz crites. joining me now is congresswoman judy chu, who represents california's 28th congressional district, including the communities of pasadena and altindere. altinda that that

they both both both have been badly burned by the eaton fire. congresswoman, thank you for joining us tonight. >> thank you for having me here for this terrible time. >> you know, i know you've been actively involved on the ground touring the devastation with fema and serving meals with world central kitchen. central kitchen. what are you hearing from your constituents, though right now? >> well, people are absolutely devastated. there are 7000 structures that have been destroyed in these fires in pasadena and altadena. and altadena in particular was very, very hard hit. we took tours of the areas and altadena is apocalyptic. i mean, there there are blocks upon blocks where

homes have been reduced to rubble and where the main business center on lake avenue is totally destroyed. the main buildings there have been destroyed, such as the altadena senior center and the altadena country club, as well as the pasadena jewish temple, altadena community church and altadena mosque. so the whole area has been devastated, and i can't walk even a few feet without running into somebody who has lost their home. that's how bad this is, because i'm getting a lot of calls from ministers and people around the country on what they can do. >> altadena is a large black community there. there's a synagogue in pasadena. what kind of assistance is most needed in your communities right now? >> well, i have to tell you, i've been also visiting the

donation distribution sites, and they have just popped up everywhere. and people have been so generous by donating goods. water is a particular issue because there is a drinking alert that is in pasadena and altadena. people are told not to drink out of the tap because of possible contamination. so water bottles are going up. but actually so many people just ran out of their house with nothing, just with the clothes on their back. so they have absolutely nothing. so toiletries, clothes, food, all of those items are very, very necessary for people to survive in these days. >> now, as we've been saying, the devastation from the l.a. fires has been indiscriminate, hitting some of the city's

wealthiest areas and some of its most diverse. take a listen to what some residents have to say. >> it's all gone. all gone. i mean, the kids were born here, raised them here 20 something years built this, and it's completely gone. >> there's nothing left. >> and i've been here for about an hour and a half, and i don't want to leave. >> it's home. >> everything that we know and love is gone. >> not just this house. my whole city gone, man. the whole thing. like everything. my whole neighborhood, everything that i grew up to love and know is burnt up. i have to ask. overall, do you think all of la's communities are getting the same level of support? >> well, we are governed by l.a. county and the city of pasadena, so we are a different entity than the city of los angeles. >> so whatever you hear about

conditions in the city of los angeles are different than what we're experiencing. we feel that we've gotten excellent response from the first responders. we have 3,001st responders who come from all over the country, and even canada and mexico to combat this fire. and now we are 27% contained. so it is helping so much to have this level of first responder help. fema has come out immediately and are setting up local assistance centers. and also, of course, we have this huge amount of donations that are coming in. we have also some shelters for people who would not be able to get into hotels, airbnbs, and who do not have family and friends to stay with. so yes, i feel that there is a tremendous response to our

situation. >> now, before i let you go, i want to get political for a moment. president elect trump was once again posting overnight, blaming the fires on democrats. so far, he has not announced plans to visit the region, though they reportedly are in the works. and he certainly has not offered any ideas to help the city recover. what would you like to see and hear from trump when he takes office in just eight days? >> well, i am concerned because of statements he's made about california, but what i want to say to trump is wildfires have no political affiliation. they have no political party. so many lives have been devastated by this wildfire. and he needs to be a representative for all the

people of america. and we are extending the invitation to him. i know that the governor has extended it as well as our county supervisor. i'm going to extend it as well, and i'm going to extend the invitation to speaker mike johnson, because i know that we will need disaster aid in the rebuilding process. and i truly hope that trump responds and makes sure that this community can thrive. again. >> thank you so much, congresswoman judy chu. and please stay safe. joining me now is california's attorney general, rob bonta. thank you for being with us tonight. attorney general bonta, to start, your state is certainly no stranger to natural disasters, from fires to earthquakes. but these wildfires, wildfires have

devastated los angeles in unprecedented ways. what have been your thoughts as this disaster has unfolded? >> you're absolutely right, reverend. >> unprecedented natural disaster. and a disaster is happening throughout la county. >> and my thoughts are with the victims, those who have been displaced, whose lives have been turned upside down, those who've lost family members have my deepest sympathies. >> those who have lost their homes, their belongings, who are trying to rebuild and heal and recover. >> they have my condolences and my thoughts and also my official 1,000% support. >> it's a time to come together, to lock arms, to unify, to lift up those who've been harmed, to be one california strong, resilient and immovable. >> this has knocked us down, but it has not knocked us out. and we will come back strong. we'll get services and resources to those who need them.

>> we will help those who are trying to recover. >> we will contain and put out these fires and we will rebuild. >> so my thoughts are with the victims and 1,000% committed to the recovery and working together. and we're seeing the help from president biden to our incredible governor and state leaders, our legislature, our supervisors, our city leaders, all working together as we should at this time for the benefit of those who've been impacted by the fires. >> but i have to bring up, unfortunately, disasters like this can bring out the best in people, but also the worst. you held a news conference this weekend where you warned your office will be cracking down on looters and price gouging. we've heard reports from lapd about burglars dressed as firefighters. what are you seeing so far in regards to criminality connected with these fires? >> reverend. it's terrible. >> i have to tell you, it's hard to see. >> it's unimaginable that people could see these victims who have

lost everything, whose lives have been turned upside, upside down and see a target. someone to prey on, someone to exploit, someone to victimize again through price gouging or through looting or through scams and frauds. i will say, i think that spirit of togetherness, helping our neighbors, lifting each other up, being focused on us and we instead of i and me is prevailing. but as in other disasters, this disaster is not unique in the sense that we're seeing some of the worst in people coming out to and to them. we're saying the rule of law will be strictly enforced. we are cracking down on these practices of scams and looting and price gouging, and we will hold you accountable. we're seeing some prices getting reports of prices over the 10% increase that that is the maximum the ceiling that a price can be increased on essential goods under penal code 386, in california. and to those who are raising those prices contrary to

the law, you will be held accountable. these are crimes, and you don't want to be committing crimes and being held liable for that. we're also seeing lots of different scams. unfortunately, when people are vulnerable and seeking services, they are often willing to listen to promises, even if they're false promises about services that they can get, housing they can get. so beware of folks who are promising you housing, or a contractor who is telling you they will help you rebuild, or someone who will provide to you government services that are free, who are asking for an upfront payment. that is a huge red flag. when they want an upfront payment, they might take your payment and you'll never see any of the services that you promised to those who have good hearts and want to help give to a charity, go to my website to make sure it's a charity in good standing that can that will actually do provide the services that you're hoping it will provide. so there's a lot of ways to protect ourselves. but yes, unfortunately we are seeing some bad misconduct in in some of the bright lights of hope and

optimism that we see as well. >> now, let me bring this up. the fbi says they are investigating a double digit number of unauthorized drone flights over wildfire or wildfire areas, including one that hit a super scooper, a firefighting plane. the bureau has released photos of the fist sized hole in its the left side of the aircraft, putting it out of commission for three days. law enforcement officials say these flights fall mostly into three categories clueless, criminal or careless. what's your message to drone operators in southern california right now? >> take your drones down out of the impacted areas, out of the disaster areas. let the firefighters, the first responders, these are heroes who are risking their lives and their health to save our lives, our health, our property. let them do their job. get out of

the way. do not interfere. take your drones down. there will be a time and a place where you can put them up. that is not in the disaster areas right now. so this is a time when we can help each other, sometimes by getting out of the way, sometimes by giving a helping hand, donating to charities. there's a lot of ways to help. so find the one that works for you, but do not prey on those who are hurt and are reeling and have already been victims of a natural disaster, and don't interfere with those who are trying to address the disaster. our first responders and others who are heroes. >> now, before i let you go, the incoming president has promised mass deportations on day one of his administration, including workplace raids and family separations. trump and his border czar, tom homan, have also threatened to go after any state or local officials that don't cooperate sufficiently with their efforts. are you concerned about what will happen

if the new administration tries to implement its immigration crackdown in a devastated area like los angeles, and just a matter of days or weeks? >> we're very concerned. we've been monitoring and planning and preparing for the possibilities. we've been listening closely to trump and his inner circle project 2025 about what they intend to do when it comes to mass deportations. they're unimaginable. they're inhumane. they are not who we are, and we take them at their word. so of course, we will always follow the law. that's our north star. and we have 10th amendment state rights to focus our resources on actual state crimes and holding those accountable who have committed state crimes and not be involved in immigration enforcement activities. and that is what the state of california's law requires. so this would be going after those in the disaster area, the trump administration with immigration

enforcement would be, in my view, taking advantage of those who are who are reeling and struggling. but i don't put it past them and we'll be ready for any scenario, we immigrants have rights. californians have rights. the idea that us citizens will be deported, that due process rights will be violated, that the military will be placed on american soil. to be part of a mass deportation machine is something that's hard to imagine, but something. these are all things that they're talking about. so if they violate the law and the following, the law and the rule of law is our north star, we will take them to court and we will stop them. >> california attorney general rob bonta, thank you for being with us tonight. coming up, the wildfires we're seeing now in california are prompting questions about how the incoming administration handles extreme weather events. but before we go, a look inside the california

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democratic senator peter welch of vermont. senator welch, thank you for being with us. last summer, your state experienced devastating and historic flooding. what did you learn during that experience that may lend any assistance or advice to folks in california right now? >> well, i'd say a couple things. first of all, it's incredibly devastating in the aftermath. it's obviously incredibly devastating for the folks who lost their homes and their businesses. kids who lost their schools, five schools, i think have been burned. and that trauma continues. the initial shock, you start to get over it, but then you have a destroyed school, a destroyed home, a lost business. so that's one. and it really requires each of us who have been so lucky as not to have been directly impacted, to reach out and remember to keep reaching out. second, there's a real challenge with fema and

response. fema does a great job in the initial recovery. but then when you're trying to deal with the bureaucracy about getting if you're on the town select board, a culvert fix, or if you're trying to get your home money that you're entitled to or your small business. there's an incredible amount of paperwork. and what we found is that where we need some reform in fema is to push decision making down in authority for spending to the local level, because it's the folks in these communities, like in palisades, who are going to be most motivated to do every single thing, to make quick decisions and to get relief to folks. so that's something that i think republicans and democrats should work on empowering the local communities, because that's what's going to lead to the fastest recovery. you know, the third thing, the longer term is every single one of these events, we've had 27 multi-billion dollar events. they all are related to extreme weather in vermont. the hottest year we had on record was last year. the hottest year before

that was 2023. we had floods both times. and of course, what you're seeing in california, what you saw in north carolina, it's all related to extreme weather. so no matter how much we prepare the fire department or the first responders who do great jobs, if we don't change the trajectory of climate change, we're going to just be fighting an uphill battle with more and more suffering. >> now, you just touched upon it. the severity of both the vermont floods and the l.a. fires are largely being attributed to climate change. president elect trump is a known climate change denier, calling it a hoax, calling for rollbacks on green initiatives. can a bipartisan coalition be built to push back on that? after all, it's not just blue states that are facing these threats. >> well, in fact, we have to, because it's exactly right, al. you know, north carolina, my

colleague ted budd and thom tillis, i mean, they spoke eloquently on the floor about the suffering. in that event, there was a weather system that we haven't seen in a couple of hundred years. the weather just came up that valley, and it just parked and rained and rained and rained. so they had an event that they'd never had before. and it was because of extremely different weather and a pattern that's developed since we've had rising temperatures. now the tragedy here is that it's absurd for the president to be denying something that everybody knows exists with this extreme weather. what makes sense for us to do is try to figure out the path forward, where we're going to be able to take advantage of the necessity to harden our communities against extreme weather and to reduce carbon emissions, and in so doing, come up with technologies that are going to create jobs and make people not only stronger economically, but safer physically. >> senator, confirmation hearings get underway this week

for the incoming administration. as a member, as a member of the judiciary committee. what are your expectations, especially regarding trump's attorney general pick, pam bondi, and his choice for fbi director kash patel? >> well, first of all, my view is that the president got elected fair and square, and he's entitled to the benefit of the doubt on his nominees, but not a blank check. now, i've met with bondi, i'll meet with patel. and the bottom line for me, when it comes to law enforcement is that whoever the candidate is and whatever the administration is, they cannot use the awesome authority of the fbi or the justice department to go after people because they were your political opponent. and of course, donald trump has made very explicit statements about going after people who were his opponents. so my view is that trump should should

renounce those. but those, i think, will be the two big questions for nominee bondi and also nominee patel. i met with bondi. she's an impressive person with an impressive record. but that's the question i think many of us will have. will you stand up to protect people from abuse, of abuse of prosecution based on the president's demand that certain people he doesn't like be prosecuted? that's a line we cannot cross. >> now, before i let you go, i'm sure you've heard trump's comments about making canada the 51st state. i want to play you this exchange my colleague jen psaki had with outgoing canadian prime minister justin trudeau earlier this afternoon about his recent meeting with the president elect. >> i'm assuming he didn't bring up his intention to publicly say he was going to annex through economic means, your country.

>> it actually, it actually sort of came up at one point. and then we started musing back and forth about this. and when i started to suggest, well, maybe there could be a trade for vermont or california or from for, for certain parts. he immediately decided that it was not not that funny anymore. >> your reaction, senator? >> we in vermont love canada, but not that much. okay. we like being right in the united states. but the real question here are the tariff policies that the president is talking about pursuing. that's really going to be that's going to be it's going to hammer us here in vermont. there our biggest trading partner, we have $160 million in trade from our manufacturers, chip makers. that goes up to canada, canada. and we import about $360 million from canada. we have our kids in high school playing hockey in canada and the canadians playing here. we're very close to canada, both emotionally, culturally, but also

economically. so the trump tariffs could be a body blow to our fragile economy. and i'm extremely concerned that the president doesn't take into account how these tariffs can really hurt jobs, manufacturers and the economy here in vermont and in our country. >> all right, vermont senator peter welch, thank you for being with us. coming up, where there's smoke, there's fire. this week's rise up. i'll tell you what you can do to combat climate change, because we don't have four years to wait. be right back. yoo hoo! >> no, no, no. >> that is against the hoa bylaws. >> bylaws? >> bylaws. >> we're showing we're consumer cellular gets great coverage. >> you're making everything orange. >> i know, right? >> we use the same towers as big wireless, so you get the same coverage. difference is, our

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nation. it has been a history making year for black football coaches. notre dame's marcus freeman has a chance to become the first african-american coach to win an. ncaa ncaa football championship, more than 40 years after that milestone was achieved in college hoops, and there were a record nine coaches of color in the nfl this year. although that number is already dwindling after a few were fired this past week. it's america's favorite pastime, and the players are over 50% black. joining me now to talk about that and other topics is jemele hill, a contributing writer for the atlantic and the host of the i heart radio podcast, sports politics. am i saying that right, jamil? i think i got it right. jamil. >> you did.

>> jamil. before we talk sports, i have to ask you about the wildfires raging near your hometown of los angeles. you've been very engaged in social media about this tragedy. one fire broke out less than five miles from your house before firefighters contained it first. how are you doing? i got to ask about your mom. and how is the community holding up? >> well, you know, my mother loves you, reverend al. >> and right now, she's actually. i just got word of this, unfortunately, like, an hour ago. she's actually in the hospital dealing with a medical issue that we're still waiting to figure out what's going on, and i will very much pass on what i'm sure will be your prayers and warm wishes to her. >> absolutely. >> but in terms of like what things have been like here, i mean, the best way to describe it is that everybody has been on edge. >> i mean, i'm lucky enough to live in a neighborhood that's probably about 30, 35 minutes from the pacific palisades and the malibu area. but the way

these fires are moving, they're just very unpredictable. and i live next to a state recreation area that also is surrounded by oil fields. and so when the residents over here heard about that fire as these other fires were raging naturally, we were all deeply concerned. in addition to receiving these evacuation warnings, both of which that turned out to be false. so it's just a very harrowing time. but i'm encouraged by the fact that the city of los angeles has pulled together, and i just want to take this opportunity to remind people. listen, the, the celebrities that lost their homes in malibu and also in the pacific palisades that have that have been that those have been the headlines. but i want people to understand that everybody in l.a. isn't a millionaire. everybody isn't a celebrity. and there have been some other neighborhoods, other cities, altadena, pasadena, especially altadena, which has one of the historically black communities, a thriving community where over 1000 structures have been

burned. and what saddens me is that because people have focused so much on the celebrity and their losses, that that's allowed a lot of people to not have empathy for what's happening to people here in los angeles. >> but there are. >> and that's not to say that the celebrities don't deserve empathy. just because you're rich doesn't mean that you won't. you know that you deserve your home being burned down. >> and so there's just been this general attitude that, oh, you guys are rich, you can recover. and that couldn't be further from the truth. >> a lot of very hardworking people have lost their homes, and many of them will not get them back. that's what people have to understand. >> and the area you wanted, the areas you talked about was the historic black area passed down from generations of families. but while we're talking about wildfires, you came to the defense of la mayor karen bass and the comments of a blog posted involving a cole kardashian on instagram called bash khloe. khloe bashed. bass.

she blasted mayor bash for calling her a, quote, joke over her handling of the infernos. but you say she's, quote, ill informed. what exactly is she wrong about? or khloe kardashian? and what do you make of the reaction to the fires online, where the disaster is being blamed on everything from die to endangered fish? >> look, i understand part of this is natural human reaction. this is a catastrophe here in los angeles like no one has seen before. and automatically people want to find somebody to blame. >> it is what it is. but what i would encourage everybody who's watching this program right now to do google, khloe kardashian and the kardashians and water usage. you'll find some very interesting information because they're family alone. the amount of water they use is so excessive that it was a news story, a big news story here in los angeles. so i find that her comments to call out mayor bass,

and especially in a moment where people are just trying to survive, you know, and you are one of the most glamorous, privileged families in this city. and so for her to call mayor bass a joke, it's just not the time for that. you know, listen, we don't know the source of these fires. there's so much information that we don't have so much misinformation that has been allowed to really pollute this issue online. you know, between the back and forth between the fire department. but the fire chief herself said that even with however you want to frame these cuts, because the fire department did receive a raise. all right. i want everybody to understand that there were 17 million cut from the budget. then there was another 50 million that they received and raises and salary because they were in the process of negotiation. when this city budget happened, the police or the fire chief herself said, okay, on television, that that 17 million had nothing to do with why they were unable to fight these fires. the truth is sometimes very unsexy, and

that's what people don't like. the truth is, we have a we had a winds that were 100 miles an hour. the municipal water system that is not equipped to fight for 4 to 6 major fires at one time because people don't understand the same water the fire department gets is the same one the residents use. all right. so they they are not there was no there's no water system in the country that is equipped to handle this magnitude. and that is the facts. right. and so there will be time to assess. mayor karen bass performance. i don't know if now in real time as information is coming in and as we're trying to understand that information is now is the time that certainly, certainly we need to have people that's concerned. >> but let's have our priorities right. and let's also not come from a privileged perch and not deal with what is happening on the ground for everybody, as you said. but let's turn back to the nfl and its black coaches. i've

been vocal and calling for the league to diversify in the coaching ranks, and we've interviewed miami dolphins coach brian flores right after he was fired a few years back this yea, after the league set a record of coaches of color at the beginning of the season, three have already been fired by the end of the season. at the end of the season, some have argued they are being held to a higher standard than their counterparts. the rooney rule was put in place to diversify head coach hires. is it working as intended, jamil? >> listen, there's mixed success and there's a lot of people who feel uncomfortable with the rooney rule. and i get it because, you know, forcing these owners to have to interview a minority candidate. a lot of people feel like many of the interviews that happen are sham interviews. on the other hand, you have those that argue that just being in front of an nfl owner, being in front of an nfl team, allows a lot of black

coaches the experience of going through the process and understanding what that process looks like. but being black in america means constantly being in situations where the goalposts move. and when you look at the situations this year where you had black coaches hired after very little time to actually leave an imprint on the organization, it definitely feels like black coaches have a quicker hook than everybody else. and my thing is like when you look at these situations, what do people expect the measure of success to be? i mean, antonio pierce with the la, the las vegas, excuse me, raiders, you know, look at the situation this franchise is in. and it didn't just start with antonio pierce. they don't have a quarterback. we don't have a quarterback. you're probably not going to win a whole lot of games. >> yeah. and so i just think the time but a lot of this is a problem. this is a problem i'm glad you've been raising it. we're out of time. but i really, really want to keep an eye on this. and you've certainly been

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