tv Chris Jansing Reports MSNBC January 13, 2025 10:00am-11:01am PST
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>> good day. i'm chris jansing, live at msnbc headquarters in new york city. new wind warnings that more of the santa ana winds could return and further feed the apocalyptic wildfires out west. the serious concerns now about those high winds returning tonight, and with them potentially explosive fire growth, putting thousands more homes and businesses at risk. how fire crews are bracing for this latest fight. plus, thousands of californians who fled their homes just ahead of the flames, now desperate to get back into their neighborhoods. some families waiting up to six hours just to see if there's anything left. and breaking news, a move that could get us closer to the release of jack smith's long awaited report on donald trump's election interference investigation. what a judge just announced. a lot to get to. but we start in california, where those powerful santa ana winds are back, gusting as high as 70mph and threatening to again supercharge
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wildfires that have left at least 24 people dead and reduced more than 12,000 homes and businesses to ashes. 23 more people are still unaccounted for in and around the city of los angeles. and for those left in the disaster's wake, there is the agony of uncertainty. today is my home still standing? where will my kids go to school? will my friends and neighbors rebuild or leave? and how long before i even know what my future holds? that answer will require patience, because this unprecedented disaster is still very much ongoing. the national weather service says the combination of strong winds, very low humidity and extremely dry conditions have prompted a rare and ominous red flag warning that is known as apds, or a particularly dangerous situation. it will start overnight tonight and it is forecast to last through wednesday. now to combat that, the governor says fire crews have been pre-deployed around
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the palisades fire area and throughout los angeles. they're clearing dry brush away from surviving structures and staging resources in areas where new fires could ignite. the goal is to hold the line against the two largest fires still out there. the palisades fire, currently 14% contained, and the eaton fire more than 30% contained. but it won't be easy. >> we've not only augmented the ground resources, but also the air resources. i think that we're very well prepared for the next event, but that's never going to be we're never sure that we're going to be able to catch the next fire. they said 70 mile an hour winds. it's going to be very difficult to contain that fire. >> i want to bring in nbc's liz creutz, who is in pacific palisades. liz, what's the latest there? well, hey, chris. >> i mean, the good news right now is that the winds have subsided for the moment. and
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yesterday there was a lot of progress made on these fires. we didn't see as active of a firefight on sunday as we've seen in the previous days. even on saturday, when the palisades fire began to encroach into brentwood. so because of that, firefighters were able to make good progress. and today is going to be absolutely critical given what you're talking about, that we have these new red flag warnings, which often in california we get red flag warnings, these pdfs, warnings. that is extraordinarily rare. we hardly ever see them. now, we've had two in just the last week. these are the same. it's a particularly dangerous situation. winds. that's what we had a week ago which ignited both of these two fires. so there's a lot of concern about that. but today is going to be critical. and then of course the humanitarian human aspect of this i mean the entire neighborhoods look like this house behind me here. it's very eerie right now because there's really nobody in this neighborhood. sometimes you see people that have been able to get back in and going through things. officials have locked it down. there's a police, multiple police roadblocks, national
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guard, nobody's getting in or out except for media and first responders at this point, because of the fact that there's been so many reports of looting and also some active fire areas around here as well. but officials are cracking down on looting, and they are also addressing issues. you mentioned about housing of price gouging, as so many thousands of people now are trying to find a new place to live in a state that has one of the worst housing crises in the country. >> chris, liz kreutz, thank you so much. right now i'm joined by rami sadri, the new chairman of the malibu pacific palisades chamber of commerce. rami, i know you've got to be steeling yourself for what's going to be a very long process of rebuilding. but tell us right now, first of all, how are you doing and what's the situation on the ground? >> good morning chris. >> thank you for having me and letting me share my story today. it's been about a week now that i've had my disabled parents with me. i was able to pull them out of their house before it
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burned down. it's so surreal. let me i i'm a computer consultant and ai technology consultant, and i help my clients in pacific palisades door to door with their technology. and i was at a client's actually outside of the palisades in westwood, where my in the morning. and then my next client was in the palisades, and she called me and said, you know, you're not coming over. we're evacuating right now. and that's the first time i got news of anything. right after that, i basically rushed to the palisades, learning of what could be a disaster evacuation orders. we've had them in the past i was at ucla 30 years ago when there were evacuation orders, but they were they were only voluntary, but this time it
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was mandatory. so it took me about an hour to get to my parents because streets were closed. i was able to find a side street. i know the streets of the palisades pretty well. got to them, pulled very few things, saw the neighbor across the street who helped. has been helping my dad. he's disabled from a stroke and every time he falls, my mom would call this neighbor to help us and then rushed out. but when i say rushed out, we rushed out into a gridlock of traffic. it was crazy. we were. we were on sunset boulevard and there were fires on the street on both sides of us. we could feel the heat in the car and we were in that traffic for an hour, just standing still, watching the fireworks. the firemen try to do whatever they could. and then luckily, the people behind me had turned around. the police started turning around, going
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the opposite direction of what we were told to do, and i was able to find another side street to get to safety to pacific coast highway, which was a road to get us away from pacific palisades. it was unbelievable and an unbelievable experience. and then we were just standing by to see if my parent's house burned down. we've got word. so that neighbor that i was telling you about, his name is mark. he's helped my parents in the past. he's a lovely man. he chose to stick around in the in the in the neighborhood, in his home. and he was giving me a text of updates saying, what is happening. i got an update at 9 p.m. that evening saying that they shut off the water. then he texted me again at 11 and said, i'm sorry to report that the house to the left of your
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neighbors is to the left of your mother's is burning, is on fire. and i texted him saying, is this enough reason for you to leave? he didn't respond to me, which then i called 911 and i said, there is a neighbor of my parents that is refusing to leave his house, and it's now the fires across the street from him. well, i got a call back 4.5 hours later from that dispatcher saying is 1038 glen haven. your parent's address or mark's address? and i said, mark. so clearly they hadn't done anything for 4.5 hours. >> and, you know, he's okay now. >> no. they found remains on his on his property. they're going to identify it, but it's obvious that it's him and it's a heart breaker. i mean, everything about this is a nightmare that we cannot wake up from it. it's
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unbelievable. and i wear multiple hats in the community. i am the incoming chair of the chamber of commerce. we are a merged chamber of commerce. initially, it was only a pacific palisades chamber of commerce, but the pandemic hurt the chamber, the pacific palisades chamber. so we merged with malibu and now we got another pandemic or just crisis on our hands that is going to affect the chamber, because the businesses i rely on the residents of the palisades to help them with their technology. and there is no pacific palisades. it's been wiped off the map. and i'm not the only one. there have been many restaurants and business owners that don't know what to do. fortunately, we've got good people like the santa monica chamber of commerce, which is a neighboring community that hasn't been affected by the fires, that will be holding a seminar tomorrow to talk about
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what we can do as business owners, how we can get financial aid, et cetera. so it's and i've been getting an outreach of multiple calls from friends that i haven't been in touch with. so i mean, this the human touch is what's helping us through this. but it's every time i turn on the tv, i am i feel like i'm watching a movie, seeing my entire hometown that i grew up in for all my life. it's just completely gone. i mean, right in front of me, the, the pictures, my bank that i used to work at when i, when i went to ucla, i, i went to all the schools that are all burned in the pacific palisades and i, i just can't believe it. i'm sitting here looking at these pictures and it's just it's like i said, it's a nightmare that i can't wake up from. >> ramis. i'm so sorry about your parents, neighbor. i am
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glad that they are safe and they are able to be with you. and i can only imagine the job you have ahead, ahead of you with the chamber. thank you so much for taking the time to tell your story. and we'd love to check in with you in the future as more and more folks figure out what the future looks like for them. thank you again for being with us. and as the fires burn, hundreds of families are trapped in limbo, not knowing whether their homes were wiped out, not able to get back into their neighborhoods to see for themselves. nbc's ellison barber is in altadena for us. what's the situation where you are, ellison. >> hey, chris, let me show you what we're seeing right now, because this explains in some ways why people aren't able to get back into these evacuated areas. so this team right here, they are fighting a hotspot that has popped back up in this building. this is a problem that keeps happening in communities like this one. we're near the eaton fire because when these buildings collapse, some of them have basements, they have stairwells. and when the
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building the concrete and cement and the layers collapse, it traps pockets of heat underneath it and embers that can reignite. and that's what we mean when we're talking about hotspots. >> and so fire officials and police, they've been saying, look, we know you're frustrated and you want to come home, but this right here is one of the reasons why you can't and why it's still not safe to do that. >> this is a building that when we were here 2 or 3 days ago, the fire was entirely out. two days ago, we saw this exact same thing happening again in the evening hours, where a hotspot had reignited inside of the building and firefighters were having to come back to get it under control, particularly as the santa ana winds are expected to pick up in the coming days. you can have situations like this right, where hotspots, fires have reignited, they've restarted, and then if those winds pick up, it can send embers back into other areas where they already had the fire under control. so there's a constant inch by inch fight. again, this is a building. and we've been here and we've seen it for the last couple of days.
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this morning nothing was burning here. changed in just a couple of hours. and now they have a significant hotspot in the middle of this building. this is a building that a firefighter told me the other day, has a basement and a stairwell, and concrete like this holds so much heat that once the levels collapse down, you can get these hotspots reigniting and restarting the fires and creating more problems as they're still trying to deal with the primary containment. in addition to safety issues like this being why residents aren't able to get back into many of these mandatory evacuated zones, la police la fire saying at a press conference this morning. in this area, they are also on day three of a grid search where they are searching for the remains of missing people. they are telling residents, look, we know you're frustrated. we know you want to go home, but we are literally trying to recover the remains of your neighbors right now. and they need people to be patient and wait as they work through this process. but this right here is one small example of the concerns in the days ahead. how quickly a hotspot can
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start again in a building where things had already been controlled, and then you have to have teams coming in like this. they have a tanker that was on the other side, pumping water to them so that they could try and get this back under control for this particular area. at least there's a fire hydrant right across the road. but that fire hydrant is in the last three days that we have been in and out of this area, that fire hydrant has not been working for whatever reason. and so when fire crews come to deal with a hotspot like this, they have to come with a water tanker so they can hook up to that and then get these fires back under control. it's a big fight and it is still very much ongoing here in altadena. >> chris ellison, barbara, thanks for your reporting. stay safe out there. coming up in 90s, the two other battles being fought right now in california, combating crime and misinformation. >> buying a car is kind of a big deal. there's like a million
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here to tell you that this is not an opportunity. >> you will be arrested, you will be prosecuted, and you will be punished to the full extent of the law. >> nbc's dana griffin is on the ground for us in los angeles. so the da, i understand, is set to announce new charges this afternoon in connection to the looting in the palisades. what more are you hearing and what is it like on the ground there today? >> yeah, chris. so we're hearing that this is going to be the first arrest for looting and an arson arrest. >> now, this is not involving the major fires that are burning, but it sounds like it's a smaller fire. and they're essentially doing this to set an example for anyone ahead of this next major wind event that if you want to loot or you want to try to set fires, you will be caught and will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. i want to show you here on the ground, this is the mandeville canyon area and got the california national guard plus a checkpoint here over the weekend. they were allowing people to come in to their
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homes. they have since stopped that and say that they will not resume those escorts until this next fire threat is over. very frustrating for a lot of residents who still want to get to their homes, but we're also seeing what's happening right behind us. these are the fire crews that are being deployed to areas across the county, because this is going to be the firefighting tool to make sure that they can respond when those winds pick up and those fires out, they're going position departments or pre-positioned teams. and i want to come back around here because you see over here you've got some firefighters down there. it's not that they're not doing their job, doing their job, being ready to deploy at a moment's notice. >> chris, dana griffin, thank you so much. well, as california officials battle the flames, they're also fighting misinformation. governor gavin newsom blasting president elect donald trump's response to the wildfires, which has included a series of truth social posts. here's one of them. quote. the fires are still raging in l.a.
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the incompetent pols have no idea how to put them out. what's wrong with them? and no water in the fire hydrants, no money in fema. this is what joe biden is leaving me. thanks, joe. newsom says he wrote a letter to trump asking him to come to california to tour the wildfire zone. >> you did invite him to come out here. have you had any response? no. >> nothing. >> multiple times, mr. trump has threatened to withhold aid for california wildfires, both as president and now again as president elect. are you worried that he might actually do that? i mean, he's done it. utah. he's done to michigan native puerto rico. he did it to california back before i was even governor in 2018, until he found out folks in orange county voted for him. and then he decided to give the money. so he's been at this for years and years and years. it transcends states. >> nbc's garrett haake is reporting from west palm beach, florida. also joining us, a michael steele. you don't look like you're in west palm beach, but okay. former rnc chairman and co-host of msnbc's the weekend. garrett, that's an
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interesting backdrop. looks a little more like very much like capitol hill. but the important thing is, look, i know you've got some new reporting because that was sunday. the what governor newsom had to say yesterday. and i know you have some new reporting on whether trump will take up his offer. what are you learning? >> well, chris, i can tell you he's actively considering it. j.d. vance said yesterday that donald trump wants to go to california. and my sources say that in the trump team, they are discussing if and how they can make that work. now, this is something that trump wants to do. he made a point during the presidential campaign to appear at disaster areas, often before president biden or vice president harris, sometimes before people would argue that it was prudent even to do so. when you're traveling with secret service protection, either as president elect or even more so as president, which he will be about a week from right now. it is very disruptive, but there is an active and ongoing conversation among donald trump's senior team to figure out how and when they could make this work, knowing that this is a huge national
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story and something, as he sort of alludes to in his truth social posts in a negative way, but is factually true, will be very much on his plate. day one, minute one when he takes over as president. >> and michael, the governor, has launched a website called california fire facts. he wants to address what he calls the mis and disinformation. there's an awful lot of it out there. but, you know, as the genie out of the bottle. and how do you see this dynamic between newsom and trump playing out? >> well, as we've seen with every national emergency, whether it's health or environmental emergencies. >> donald trump plays to the cheap seats. it is easy to sit back and beat his chest and blame others. and so that that's one level of fuel on the fire. and then the next is, of course, the lies and the disinformation and misinformation about the effort on the ground, whether it involves resources from fema
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during hurricane season or other national events, or in this case, you know what california is doing, what they have done, what they haven't done relative to putting the fires out. donald trump has not been helpful. that's the bottom line. let's just put that on the table and put an exclamation point on it. he has not been helpful. so the fact that he has now been extended an invitation as president to come and see firsthand what's on, what's happened and what's going on. maybe this will be a way to change some of the narratives around this. i doubt it, because, as you noted, the genie is out of the bottle. the lies and the abuse of information is already baked in. and so people are going to believe what they want to believe about what gavin newsom as governor has done or failed to do, what mayor bass has done or failed to do. and
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that's just something that everyone is going to have to live with as a the fires get put out and b restoration occurs. so donald trump now on january 20th at 1201, california is your problem too. you can't blame it on joe biden. you can't blame it on gavin newsom. you have to roll up your sleeves and decide whether or not you're going to help the most populous state in the country. >> well, he has, as, as we've pointed out, blamed it on gavin newsom, blamed it on joe biden. and you mentioned the l.a. mayor, karen bass. she's been criticized for being in ghana when the wildfires broke out in the new york times points out that prior to her election, she said, i'm not going to travel internationally. but the times says that pledge has been this is their word, spectacularly broken. but when you add all these things together, how big of a problem could this create politically for democrats? generally, the overall messaging right from donald trump and his
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supporters is they're incompetent. >> well, i mean, i that's just bogus. i'm not going to give license to that thinking. that's just bogus. that's a lie. i mean, you look at everything that has been put on the table, has been shown to be a lie, has been refuted, has been clarified. you know, the mayor's travel is the mayor's travel. she has to deal with that. i referred to it as the marion barry problem. you know, when we had a big winter storm here, marion barry was, as was, you know, wanted to go to the super bowl. and guess what? got to come back home and take care of business. and you pay a political price in those instances. and the political leadership will at some point. but this is not the time for that. and i think that's important for us to understand. this is not the time for political recriminations and retribution, and blaming the leadership on the ground have got to get this under control. everyone in this country, in
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political office, have an opportunity to help them, whether they're governors or president should step up. a lot of governors, a lot of states have. they're not sitting there blaming gavin newsom for the fire or the fact that fire hydrants, for a whole host of reasons don't have water in them. they're saying, how can i help? that's what donald trump needs to learn. that's what donald trump needs to do. shut the hell up on the on the conspiracies and the bull and ask gavin newsom, how can i help for once in your life, show leadership instead of petty politics. that's what the people of california expect. and just as importantly, chris, that's what the american people expect. we've done this movie before. we don't need a repeat of it. we live through covid. we know what that's like when you don't pay attention to the problem at hand and want to play politics with it, people die. things don't get solved. so i'm hoping this
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volumes of the report. but for what she did today. and that's what i want to explain to you and our viewers, she is saying she is not going to grant a further request from president trump's lawyers to extend that injunction as to volume one of the report, which concerns the federal election interference case. but as to the second volume about the mar-a-lago documents case, she is going to indefinitely extend an injunction that prevents attorney general merrick garland from releasing the report to the public or even to members of congress, what they suggested they wanted to do. and as for the suggestion that she didn't even have the authority to enter this order, judge cannon taking umbrage of that, saying the 11th circuit never said that she didn't have that authority, and that because this concerns the release of information that directly implicates the trial rights of walt noorda and carlos de oliveira, those are the two codefendants and the mar-a-lago case that she has an obligation. and i'm quoting from her order to preserve the integrity of this proceeding. should the 11th
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circuit find that her order dismissing the case outright was in error? of course, many of us think we'll never get to that point, because once president trump takes office again, he could either dismiss the appeal of her dismissal and or pardon both nauta and de oliveira, making it sort of an a moot point, right, that by the time he takes office again, this case may no longer exist. >> all right. we will see what happens between now and midnight. thank you so much, lisa rubin. as always, with that breaking news and coming up, we'll speak to the mayor of pasadena on the fight against the eaton fire, a fire that has the eaton fire, a fire that has already claimed 16 upset stomach iberogast indigestion iberogast bloating iberogast thanks to a unique combination of herbs, iberogast helps relieve six digestive symptoms to help you feel better. six digestive symptoms. the power of nature. iberogast. if you're frustrated with occasional bloating or gas, your body's giving you signs. it's time to try align.
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fire zone. joining me now, victor gordo, the mayor of pasadena, a part of the area threatened by the eaton fire. thank you for being with us, mr. mayor. what updates can you tell us? and let's start with the search for those who are still missing. >> well, the search is of missing people is a primary concern. you know, we have over 3000, about 3400 firefighters and thousands more personnel here at the rose bowl. and we have a great number of them engaged in fire suppression, but also the search for those who may be missing. we're asking people to report missing relatives to give us their the address of their latest whereabouts, and we will get staff up there to assist with search for missing loved ones. >> i have to say that in the time that i lived in los angeles, pasadena was one of my
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favorite places to go. it's just beautiful. norton simon museum, great pie shop. i would always stop in to. and how's the community looking today? >> you know, the in pasadena. the fire is under control. we do have we are concerned about the winds gusting up and embers going up to two miles up. and so we are being vigilant assisting our neighbors in altadena, pasadena and altadena are really one community. we may have different names, we may be different governmental jurisdictions, but we're one community. in fact, in pasadena and altadena we call ourselves the dena. and, you know, altadena has been completely devastated in some of its neighborhoods. and so our efforts in pasadena are to continue to monitor the embers and the fire, continue the search for missing people, and, of course, join the many, many agencies and thousands of
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firefighters and other civilian personnel in assisting our neighbors in altadena. >> what are the questions you get most, mr. mayor? i mean, obviously there are very difficult decisions people are going to have to make about their lives and their businesses moving forward. what are the questions you're getting and what are you able to tell folks about the help that's available out there? >> well, you know, the immediate assistance that people are searching for is housing, shelter, food, clothes, and we are assisting with that. we turned our convention center into an evacuation center. you know, the rose bowl, if you're familiar with the rose bowl grounds, is the command center, and the rose bowl grounds are completely full with first responders. as i said, 3400 firefighters, i thousands and hundreds of other civilians and forest service and cal fire workers are also assisting. so it's taking care of the immediate needs of people. as we
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look to transition, we would invite the administration and future administration to come visit to see the, you know, the absolute destruction of an entire community in altadena and the pain that it's causing to individuals. these are real people, and it would be helpful if people would come as, as adam schiff did, as alex padilla did. and our congressional delegation, it would be helpful if the current administration, who i am in touch with and the future administration, come out and see for themselves the absolute devastation and offer the assistance that's going to be needed in the interim to house people. and then permanently to find housing and help rebuild not just the housing, but the business districts that have been lost as well. >> pasadena mayor victor gordo. it's an understatement to say you all have your work cut out for you. but also, i know that
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this is a strong community and i wish you all the luck in the world and thank you for your time today. appreciate it. >> we are a strong and resilient community. we do need help and but we i tell the people of pasadena and altadena we'll get through this. we'll get through this together. >> thank you, mr. mayor. appreciate it. and in this moment of crisis across los angeles, we have seen so many communities come together, including some that are partnering with chef jose andres, world central kitchen, his nonprofit has organized with locals across la to help feed thousands of firefighters, first responders and fire victims. joining me now is a chef who is working with world central kitchen, susan feniger. she is the owner of the zocalo restaurant in santa monica and the border grill zocalo truck in pasadena. thank you chef. i appreciate you taking the time to speak with us. i want to
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first start with how are you and your workers doing? >> well, we're thank you for being here and thank you for covering this. >> obviously, there's so much need for attention out here. you know, everybody is working their butts off. we're working long hours to try to take help. take care. a little bit of feeding the community. our border grill and zocalo truck have been out at the pasadena convention center for since the 7th of january. i think we've done over 13,000 meals, lunch and dinner. we're headed today to pch, where we're going to be feeding, i think, over 2000 meals, lunch and dinner for firefighters, responders, first responders, and mainly in pasadena. we've been doing evacuees and people that really need, you know, warm
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comfort food or at least food to take to go. so our workers are amazing. our staff has been incredible. everybody is working long, long hours, seven days a week to try to do whatever we can to get people, you know, warm or delicious food or just some comfort food. and obviously we've partnered with jose and world central kitchen many times, and this time is so spectacular how they help to organize the restaurants and all of our fellow restaurants around the city has been amazing. >> well, once upon a time i worked in restaurants, and one thing i know about folks who do is that they're used to working their butts off. so i have no doubt about your ability to deliver, but i wonder what the feedback has been. what are what are your folks hearing from the people who they're helping? >> people are so appreciative. i mean, it's really quite amazing people. they're they've lost
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their homes. they have nothing. and yet they come. they see a warm, smiling face and getting a hearty meal and something to just either take home or into the actual shelter itself. and people are just so thankful and grateful. i mean, it is truly amazing. i know you hear this about community coming together, but the hospitality business, you know, they have gone through. we've all gone through such intense times between covid and now to step back up in the way so many of our friends have called to see. how can they help? you know, our produce company donated another refrigerated truck. we've gotten a fisherman called me the other day, said they had 100 pounds of fish that they caught. they wanted to filet it and drop it off 300 pounds of fish. you know, fruit, vegetables, pallets. it's just been, you know, people come together even in the hardest of times. so the
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people that are getting this food are so appreciative. and in reality, i think our team feels so appreciative to be able to be there and help a little bit in this incredible, terrifying situation that we've all been in. >> chef susan feniger of zocalo restaurant and food truck. good luck to you and godspeed. the work you're doing is so important. thank you for coming on the show. appreciate it. >> thank you so much. >> and coming up next, major fireworks expected in d.c. this week, with the trump confirmation hearings kicking off tomorrow, all the nominees we expect to see on the hill and who might be facing the biggest who might be facing the biggest challenge after prilosec knows, for a fire... one fire extinguisher beats 10 buckets of water, and for zero heartburn 1 prilosec a day... beats taking up to 10 antacids a day. it's that simple, for 24 hour heartburn relief... one beats ten. prilosec otc. covid-19? i'm not waiting.
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that may be an understatement, and the nominee seem to know it. some of the most controversial pete hegseth to head defense, tulsi gabbard, as the director of national intelligence. rfk jr for health and human services have arguably been softening some questionable positions, even as republicans are facing pressure to fast track these nominations, and democrats are gearing up for some fights, accusing the gop of cutting corners on background checks. it's going to be quite a week. let's bring in jake sherman, co-founder of punchbowl news and an msnbc contributor. hey there jake. so give us a sense of the atmosphere going into these hearings this week. >> well, there's, as you said, chris, there's two sides to this coin, right. >> there are a number of very well qualified, noncontroversial nominees. >> people like marco rubio, john ratcliffe, who are going to sail through the confirmation process without much without much opposition. i'd also put elise
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stefanik in that in that basket. and by the way, all three, either current or former members of congress. and then you have people like pete hegseth, who is up for defense secretary, who's probably going to get through the senate armed services committee on a party line vote. and this hearing, i don't know about all the other hearings being trainwrecks, but this hearing is going to be very contentious. there's going to be questions about his personal life, about his policy preferences. and, listen, this probably one of the least qualified, at least by traditional qualifications, to be defense secretary in recent memory. so that will be a very interesting hearing, to say the least. and what we're looking out for is who takes that, that pit bull of a role on the democratic side of the senate armed services committee, who goes after questions about his personal life, who goes after his qualifications and his policy preferences. he has said, for example, that women shouldn't serve in combat roles, something that has been
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unpopular even with some republicans. so just a host of lingering questions about pete hegseth. although, listen, i do expect that he will be confirmed based on our reporting. >> well, let me ask you about this. you know, the complaints, including from two key senators on armed services that they didn't even get. pete hegseth, fbi background check until friday night. democrats taking issue with what they say is cutting corners. listen to senator mark kelly. >> i think it's in the nominee, mister s best interests. >> if he wants to be confirmed for this job, for us to have all the information. you know, the information from these organizations, but also the fbi background check, it is bipartisan, like a bi, you know, across the aisle, folks want to see the fbi background check. i think we should get an opportunity to take a look at it. >> is it out of the norm to have a background check, take this
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long to come in this late? >> well, a few things to think about. number one, traditionally now there have been exceptions, but traditionally only the ranking member and chair of the committee get full access to the background check document. that's not a hard and fast rule. they could give it to whoever they want, but that is traditionally that is the case. there are instances in which they are dispersed more widely. they are distributed more widely to more people on the committee. and listen, the argument would be the argument here would be that that members of congress who are voting senators, who are voting to confirm somebody to a high ranking and sensitive position, should have a full 360 degree view of their past, of their past, rather, and any liabilities that they face. so it is not out of the ordinary, but it is also not crazy for members of the senate and especially the senate armed services committee, to say that they should have access to this document.
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