tv The Beat With Ari Melber MSNBC January 13, 2025 3:00pm-4:00pm PST
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then at 10 a.m, rachel maddow and team will bring you key moments of the day, followed by analysis from our prime time anchors as the new term begins next monday, beginning at six on msnbc. >> what we do is try to cut right to the bone of what we're seeing in washington that day. thank you so much for letting us into your homes during these extraordinary times. we are grateful. the beat with ari melber on this monday starts right now. hi, ari. >> hi, nicole. thank you. >> welcome to the beat. i'm ari melber, and we begin with the story that continues to grip the nation. >> these worsening, ongoing fire conditions in california, crews continuing to struggle to contain what are devastating flames. >> these have been tearing through the l.a. area for, if you're counting now six straight days, the strong winds fueled deadly fires last week, and those types of winds are now expected to pick up again tonight, which brings with it the possibility of not only the rapid spread of current fires, but even more fire zones.
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officials have confirmed now 24 people have died. dozens are missing. when you count this all up, it is very hard to give people outside of l.a. a full approximation. but here's one way to think about the area covered. >> these fires have now already scorched 40,000 acres, and while la is vast, we've been covering the damage of so many homes and communities in this city, it has damaged or destroyed over 12,000 buildings, including many homes, residential areas. >> there's a video that was obtained here by the new york times using a nest camera outside a palisades home that captures how this works, how these flames grow and quickly approach these homes. the homeowners were watching in shock. >> watching that. >> that footage is devastating to us. this is the worst case scenario, playing out in front of our eyes right now.
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>> that's what people are dealing with. >> the fire crews made progress in containing what has been the largest blaze. >> the palisades fire is more contained at 14%. while they continue working long, punishing hours battling to contain these blazes before, as mentioned, those expected high winds may return. >> we showed up here yesterday morning about 5 a.m. >> you haven't slept? not really, but you're going to go as long as it takes. >> yeah. yeah, yeah. >> how tough has it been? >> fighting the winds. >> yeah. >> you can't really beat the winds. >> we come to win and you can see one house is standing. >> but our goal is for all of them to be standing. so this is hard to see for sure. >> this has been a rolling story in real time with people sharing information, videos. social media has provided information, but many families have to simply return still to their own neighborhoods to try to identify the damage of their particular home. many finding homes reduced to rubble. >> it was like our dream come
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true that we worked so hard to get here, and now to see it this way. >> it's so. and i never thought i would live through something like this. >> there is shock, pain, loss, much of the devastation. >> heartbreaking and often an equal opportunity disaster affects so many. we are also seeing and we want to report this alongside our coverage of the very latest in the damage and the danger. >> what you see on your screen, people coming forward with acts of kindness, volunteering, humanitarian work. >> these are hundreds of volunteers who basically came together to donate clothing and food to fire victims at a santa anita racetrack, even as the fires continue to blaze. this is happening in real time as well. people trying to help each other. however they can. also, here was a reunion of a man and his dog who was missing for five
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days. oh honey, oh honey. >> oh my god, you're alive! you're alive. oh, honey. oh! whoa whoa oh, thank you god. >> nbc, where's nbc? where are you? liz? thank you. oh, honey. thank you. >> every house, every neighborhood has its own stories. nbc's ellison barber live for us in altadena. what are you seeing today and what are they worried about tonight? >> i mean, ali, you know, in the coming days, it really is concern about those winds. forecasters have said the gusts could be between 50 and 70mph. let me show you where we are, because this is a command center for search and recovery efforts. with the eaton fire, there are still people missing. and these teams have been going in and out of the impacted areas, searching for people who are missing and trying to recover remains. we're
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going to not go too far in that area just out of respect for the work that they are doing. but this is one of many reasons fire officials say people cannot come back into a lot of these mandatory evacuation zones in the places that were hit the hardest because they say, and this was a quote from an official this morning, we are literally searching for the remains of your neighbors. there are at least 24 people reported missing. what the teams here have told us they are doing. they are on day three of a grid search, trying to find remains of people in this community. they expect that they will be here for at least seven more days based on just where they are right now. as of this morning, they say they're prioritizing their search on going into areas where they had what they call incomplete 911 calls, where someone called when the fires were at its height and there w that phone call disconnected. they're also going to areas where there were reports or they can't get in touch with them. the death toll officials have said,
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will likely rise in the coming.e this, when they come back into these communities, what they're seeing and you can look right here across the street as some fire teams move through, is just absolute devastation. another thing that we see that continues to happen and is a concern tonight and really every day as they're still trying to get these fires contained, are the safety hazards that are still around. there are power lines that are down live wires that could hurt people. there are trees that have been burnt. the roots are gone that could collapse and fall on people. on top of that, in a lot of these buildings, they have multiple levels and many of them have basements. and what happens? and we can walk across here together so you can see a little more. what happens is when these buildings collapse and pancake on each other, heat gets trapped underneath, particularly in like those basement areas. and brick and concrete really holds that heat. and so when it collapses in the heat gets trapped underneath it. then you can see hotspots, fires, reigniting. we've seen in one building in
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this area two different days. when we've been here, it has looked like that building is not an active fire. there's no smoldering, there's no smoke. but then a couple of hours later, we see fire teams coming back to it because flames have reignited inside of that building and they once again have to come over with a water tanker, because a lot of the fire hydrants in this area are marked off with like what looks like crime tape. but it's not crime tape, it's from the fire department. but saying that that fire hydrant is not working. and so they're coming in with tinker's tanks of water connecting their hose to that, and then fighting these fires that way. but the destruction, the devastation. and i know we keep saying it, but we keep saying it and showing it because everywhere you look, every neighborhood you go to, it seems like you find new buildings that look like this. these are family businesses, a lot of them. this is the heart of altadena, the downtown area and most of the buildings, a lot of them just look like this. there is nothing left, nothing to salvage. and this is true of homes as well. we've spoken to so many
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residents who are frustrated that they can't get back home, but officials say it is for their own safety. and right now, in this area where we are, they are actively searching for the remains of people who are missing. and at times, they say their efforts have to be focused on checking for people in bathtubs where people often go to seek shelter when fires get closer, and also in pools because they say, as the fires were encroaching, that oftentimes that is where people run because there's a source of water and they think maybe they will be safe. the question and the worry here is how high can that death toll rise again? at least 24 people are said to be missing right now, and the efforts to recover remains and find those people. it is ongoing, both here in the eaton fire area and also in the palisades. ari. >> allison, barbara walking us through, quite literally some of the devastation behind you. thank you. and i wish you and your team stay safe throughout all of this. let me tell folks what's coming up, the fires leading our broadcast as they have throughout the week. as everyone goes through that out there and we wish them the best.
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things, and welcome to this new era, i can tell you officially, inauguration is one week from today. >> that's when the incoming president is, as always, sworn in. it's a moment of true living history. you saw it there in the obama era. a nation watches the new president walk up there and take the oath. of course, this will be trump's second time. the latest new yorker magazine cover has a political satire imagining the coming moment a week away with trump edged out of the frame. >> that's just a little bit of his face and tuft of hair you see there, and look who's doing the edging. >> it is elon musk pushing him out of the frame as the main character. you could call this political cartoon satire kind of
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commander of the chief. and it is a joke. political cartoons have a long history, but the joke plays on some real concerns about this unelected billionaire wielding so much power. and the blowback for musk right now is not only coming from liberals or nonpartisan good government experts. it's coming from all over the place. take maga firebrand steve bannon, using his conservative influence to try to push musk out of what has been his big trump access lately. bannon declaring the billionaire evil and announcing a mission to take him down and push him out of trump's inner circle. so he's going to get musk kicked out, bannon says, as soon as next week. and he got specific. he vows to block him from those coveted blue passes, which have the access, quite literally, through security protocols to the white house. all of this building on attacks that bannon has launched at elon musk since last year.
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>> musk is a total and complete phony. >> this guy lives on government contracts and taxpayer subsidies. all you are is a globalist now. >> many new administrations have been fighting over access. this one is starting out louder and harsher than most in recent history. and because trump will be a one term lame duck president, his team is facing extra pressure to be fast, to be united, and certainly not to waste a lot of time or energy on this kind of public infighting among top people. i mean, bannon chaired the first trump campaign that won. musk is sort of a co-chair co-president style person, depending on who you ask. these are big folks to be fighting in public. now. musk's spending advisory group has started talking to government staff. they're the ones inside the government who actually will shape the spending decision. >> musk is using his group's name to promote crypto he owns. >> we did a special fact check on that. he's also signaling some of those big claims about
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cuts that he made were overstated. he also juggles conflicts of interest because his companies have so many of their own contracts with government agencies as he demands spending cuts, but not for his own many government contracts. meanwhile, billionaires and tech leaders are jostling to appease a brash leader who demands loyalty over truth. there are some comparisons here to george orwell's 1984, the infamous book and movie later, and its depiction of an oppressive, overly powerful government. so if you say, gosh, is it a little early to be going orwell or a week out of inauguration? well, i can tell you one of the orwell comparisons is actually coming from a trump ally, facebook founder mark zuckerberg. but he was describing in a new interview the federal guidelines against medical and vaccine misinformation. something out of like, you know, 1984, one of
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these books where it's just like it really is a slippery slope. that is zuckerberg's idea of an orwellian attack. he was talking about mostly biden era covid policy and his new interview with very trump friendly podcaster joe rogan. although when it comes to government overreach, while zuckerberg is playing the orwell card on the outgoing administration, it was donald trump who embarrassed zuckerberg by announcing quite recently that he, the president elect, thinks the facebook founder bowed to him, bowed to trump because of his past threats. >> do you think he's directly responding to the threats that you have made to him in the past with these proposals? >> yeah, probably. >> probably. yeah, that's serious stuff. it would be up to mark zuckerberg to publicly rebut that claim. if it is not true. trump had threatened to literally jail zuckerberg. and
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as with so many other trump claims, vows and threats, we have to deal in evidence. you don't have to overreact to every post on truth social, but you have to deal seriously with someone who is a week away from becoming the commander in chief. and i can tell you this if you haven't seen it, there are reports facebook took it seriously after those comments, meta's security teams analyzed how trump could weaponize d.o.j. and intelligence against zuckerberg. that's according to a person who anonymously spoke to cnbc with knowledge of the situation. so zuckerberg's team took it seriously. zuckerberg also now adding a trump ally to his company board, and he has cited trump's win directly as his reason to end fact checking online, which had reduced the belief of facebook users in certain lies. and it also affected their spread. here was that unusual announcement. >> first, we're going to get rid
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of fact checkers and replace them with community notes similar to x starting in the us. we're going to work with president trump. >> we're going to catch less bad stuff, but we'll also reduce the number of innocent people's posts and accounts that we accidentally take down. we won't catch as much bad stuff. we're going to end fact checking and all. why not? not because of some independent reason or even a business reason, which of course, businesses make business decisions about profits all the time. in fact, we've aggressively covered the facts around zuckerberg and facebook's conduct on that score around the world for years. but he didn't give a business reason. he just said because of the election. now zuckerberg is making a big show of turning towards maga and this trump alliance. we can report that he met with trump on friday. you could see his private jet. this has been identified. credit to the new york post there as zuckerberg's jet that he was using that day. next to what you see there,
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trump's. and here's a little more from that new zuckerberg joe rogan interview. it was it was just never accepted by by people broadly. i think people just felt like the fact checkers were too biased, not necessarily even so much in what they ruled, although sometimes i think people would disagree with that. a lot of the time it was just what types of things they chose to even go and fact check in the first in the first place. so i, i kind of think like after having gone through that whole exercise, it i don't know, it's something out of like, you know, 1984, one of these books where it's just like it really is a slippery slope, and it just got to a point where it's just, okay, this is destroying so much trust, especially in the united states. so there you have it. if you're keeping track of the dystopian name calling, well, zuckerberg got in, started the year early, saying the other people are orwellian. now, as
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i've mentioned, there are things people don't like about all kinds of companies and what they do. this is not the government directly, although clearly zuckerberg is trying to curry favor with the incoming government, but he is saying that he will reshape facebook and instagram basically towards what trump wants. elon musk already did that when he took over twitter, and that means a majority of social media users in america are going to now see a different stream of information tilted towards those goals. if you care about the truth, if you are interested in why and how people are learning things, then whatever you use to get the truth and facts and information say possibly multiple news sources or accredited journalists, it's good to keep track of the fact that a lot of other people are going to be getting this, and a heck of a lot of people don't read a lot of news directly. they go on the internet and see what comes to them. now. then the other most popular social site, and this is important, i've just talked to you about a couple of them. now i'm turning to another one. is a site you've
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heard of that has not yet, at least not announced the kind of political change that we've heard from musk and zuckerberg. and that's tick tock. and there are many fair concerns about that site. we've covered that, too. but tiktok has been a big platform for people across the spectrum left, right and in between in america to share views on the presidential debates on politics, civil rights, abortion rights, all kinds of issues. in fact, we've often aired clips from the robust political activity on that site in our coverage because we have pulled the videos and shown you what people are talking about and oftentimes what americans are saying back and forth. but that remaining non musk, non zuckerberg non maga platform is now facing its own deadline to completely shut down u.s. operations if its chinese parent company does not sell its us part. the chinese company bytedance is saying it will just shut down to comply with the new us law by next
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week. so this is a huge deal. it's probably gotten less attention than other things. it will be a really big deal if it happens. a last ditch appeal to keep tiktok open has just hit the supreme court, and the justices had a bunch of questions, which led many to think that this court will allow the tiktok ban. in other words, they will not step in and save tiktok next week. now, here's a quick key moment where the chief justice suggests the court may view this as more of a national security priority, where the united states can and has every right to step in and use its power to block what it believes are basically chinese intelligence operations. so it's not really about, according to the question, american speech. >> bytedance, subject to chinese laws that require it to assist or cooperate with the chinese government's intelligence work. so are we supposed to ignore the fact that the ultimate parent is, in fact, subject to doing
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intelligence work for the chinese government? >> that is a big question, stated clearly as the chief justice of the united states saying, you've got an adversarial intelligence operation, and it's on tens of millions, hundreds of millions of americans phones potentially. and the congress wants to stop that. and you're asking us to say they can't legally. the point is simple. if this app is gathering intel for an adversary, the us government can block that period. that's what the congress argued in its powers. and that's what the chief justice right there seemed to be sympathetic to. now, let me play for you the answer in part. i'm keeping it pretty simple, although we've got jumped around through a bunch of social sites right now that are going to define how your neighbors and maybe you see the world in the coming years in the trump era. here's tiktok's lawyers saying, no, wait a minute. has congress ever shut down an entire speech platform? >> this is a pretty unprecedented case. >> i'm not aware of any time in
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american history where the congress has tried to shut down a major speech platform. >> that's a decent answer. and the times they are a-changin. so just because congress never did it, or even had the technological know how to do it, because now you can block app stores and other things from serving up the app, serving up tiktok doesn't mean they can't do it to meet new threats. and that's how the congress originally viewed tiktok as a chinese backed intelligence threat. yes, there's a lot of speech on it, but they argued, well, the back door was for an adversary. and yet, if this were a movie, as with so many other stories in the last few years, you might say, gosh, we're jamming a lot in. so you're telling me there's basically three big social media platforms, two go mega, and the other one is about to shut down on the eve of the swearing in of the new president that i showed you at the beginning of this introduction. it's not all a conspiracy. it's not all coordinated. some of these laws, as i mentioned, were written
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long before anyone knew the outcome of the election. but it is all coming at us fast, and it is a heck of a lot of billionaire tax cutting, pro maga pressure to change. whether you get information and whether other people have any kind of fact checking. so given our interest in the politics here and the facts. guess who's bizzack as they say? michael steele on facts and politics in steele on facts and politics in this big story. when we come everywhere but the seat. the seat is leather. alan, we get it. you love your bike. we do, too. that's why we're america's number-one motorcycle insurer. but do you have to wedge it into everything? what? i don't do that. this reminds me of my bike. the wolf was about the size of my new motorcycle. have you seen it, by the way? happy birthday, grandma! really? look how the brushstrokes follow the line of the gas tank. -hey! -hey! brought my plus-one. jamie?
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thoughts on what we just laid out above? >> look, you connected some pretty big dots here that run the gamut of the ultimate suppression of information, the elevation of conspiracy and mis and disinformation, and more importantly, mainstreaming it in such a way that, as you noted, at various points in in your lead, it's hard to tell. people can't tell necessarily what the storyline is, what the truth is. and zuckerberg himself, you know, was fancifully talking about, you know, you know, we're sitting here, we're looking at this and we're seeing that people can't necessarily see or hear or understand this, this a certain way or a different way. so we're just going to take out the guardrails and just let them interpret for themselves. let's let's redefine what facts are. so yeah this is this is a setup for the second term. it has been part of a series of narratives
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and storylines along the way. steve bannon has largely been orchestrating. it is a little bit laughable to kind of watch the dance between him and elon musk right now, which has been going on for quite some time. because steve, you know, game recognizes game baby, right. he knows he knows exactly what elon was up to. he's like wait a minute. you try to you're going to move in on my turf. you're going to move on on my ground. that's why he's suddenly such an evil person. now, if he just stayed in his lane and just, you know, continue to use his money and authority that he has to benefit donald trump while all the other, you know, players got to do their thing, that's a different story. but yeah, these three pieces do connect in a way that i think is very telling about how this incoming second term for trump is likely to play out. it's not just the bending of the knee by bezos and musk
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and others, and it's about what they do once they bend the knee. and that's the part that comes next. >> yeah, i think that's well put. and the difference between journalism, which has plenty of criticism and some of it's valid and these businesses, is that the business is never said they were trying to do fact checking anyway. i mean, take even an outlet that people might not like. think of your outlet you don't like. if it's a reputable outlet, it would never announce we're not fact checking anymore. it wouldn't even make sense. whereas some of these businesses can do that. while i have you to start the week, and i remind our viewers, michael, that inauguration is now one week away and everyone can kind of shake off a few things and cobwebs and begin anew. hopefully people got some some rest and replenishment. we like to look at it big, and i wanted to get your view on the larger picture of how america looks in the mirror, and where we go in
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the weeks ahead, teeing off the culture where we heard from jeff daniels, whom people know from all kinds of work. but he's been in a bunch of political films and some folks might know, and we just heard from him. i just had him on the program on one of my series, and he said something really interesting. i want to play for your reaction on the other side. >> yeah, they've won for now. i mean, i've always said in november 5th was, we're going to find out who we are, and we did. >> but maybe it's and if you want to have some hope, maybe it's who we are now. >> michael, i agree with that. i've been saying it for two cycles. three cycles now we are who we are. we are where we are because this is where we want to be. america doesn't move itself into the throes of maga and trumpism unless it wants to be there. you don't excuse make yourself into that space unless there's an underlying thread
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that you are pulling that pulls you closer or more into it. so i think jeff is exactly right about that analysis. i'm a little bit skeptical about the other side of it that, you know, for now, the question is how long is for now? and we'll see. i can tell you this one week from this hour, america will already begin to look and feel very differently, because the executive orders that will be implemented at 12:01 p.m. that day will begin to set in motion a different reality for a lot of people who think this is where they want to be. and that's that will then answer both my and jeff's point about where we are and who we are, because our response to those, those executive actions, our response to this, this leveling up of authoritarianism in whatever
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form, meek and mild it may 1st appear, will tell us a lot about what america looks like two mondays from now. >> i got about a minute left. what do you say to people who are back from break? but looking at everything, including what people are going through in california and feeling like exhausted, maybe they'll sit it out for a couple of years. what do you say to them? >> you can't, you can't. that wildfire in california is representative of so much right now. it's representative of the fire that's burning in our culture, the fire that's burning in our politics, the fire that's burning within our families. there's so much about the destruction that we're seeing there and our response to it. very similar to our response to covid throwing up conspiracies, going after the political leadership because you don't like them politically. donald trump, you know, berating the governor of california because
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he's a democrat. i mean, we all know the story there. the last time in 2018, there was a crisis in california. what did he do? withheld resources. why? because they didn't vote for me until he realized the folks in san diego did. and then he gave them resources. those fires that are burning are painful on so many levels. so you can't sit out. you can't sit back and act like, well, we'll just wait till this is over. maybe there won't be anything left if you let the fire burn. that's why we're trying to put it out on so many levels, in so many ways, my friend. my heart goes to those good people in california. the stories that we're hearing are not just stories of an individual pain, but a bigger pain for all of us. >> yeah. and, you know, there's what happens and what you do about it. and what you're saying reminds people that facing it and what some of the and this should be i would hope a nonpartisan point. but facing it
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with resolve and community together, right, is part of what people have to do. because what's the alternative when you're when your neighbor has been savaged like that? and i think we all know people out there who are going through it, right? michael steele, thank you. let me tell folks where to find you. the weekend on amazon. >> go ahead. say it. that's going to say the weekend baby. just check us out saturday and sunday is 8 to 10 a.m. and simone and michael. there you go. >> there it is. no better way to start your day off, thanks to michael. let me tell folks, by the end of the hour, i will tell you exactly where you can find rachel maddow, because it's going to be a lot more than once a week. that's a programing announcement we have here later tonight. but first, the confirmation hearings begin confirmation hearings begin tomorrow. stay with us. strike ♪ music ♪ ♪ unnecessary action hero! ♪ ♪ unnecessary. ♪
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>> it all starts tomorrow. trump's cabinet picks will be vetted, and the senate confirmation hearings could bring a lot of questions tomorrow. pete hegseth, who is the pentagon chief pick by the president elect. then on wednesday, big names rubio at secretary of state noem and homeland security. and pam bondi, the attorney general nominee who replaced matt gaetz as the nominee, who was the quickest to drop. that's by the end of the week. these picks have been at times embattled, and everyone is watching to see how these first battles, tests and chapters of this administration begins.
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>> his choice to be defense secretary, already raising eyebrows for his comments about women in the military. >> hegseth said he believes women should not be in combat for the u.s. military. >> pete hegseth, continuing to draw the most scrutiny amid reports of excessive drinking and a sexual assault accusation. >> this newly revealed police report that offers graphic details into a sexual assault claim, reportedly a surprise to the trump transition team that after this allegation was made against hegseth, he paid off the woman. >> the army vet denies the 2017 allegations and wasn't charged. >> that's just some of the reporting that has come out and this will all be addressed, of course, under oath at the hearing. pam bondi has played multiple roles. i've told you before, she had the same type of job that kamala harris had as a state ag, and that typically is a good on ramp to taking up a big doj post. but in other times, outside of that role, more of a political advocacy or litigation. remarks on behalf of
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donald trump. she made statements that have been proven false. >> any general that was involved, general admiral, whatever that was involved in any of the die woke. she's got to go. >> these fake ballots that are coming in late. >> did you just say fake ballots? >> there could be. that's the problem. >> we should not have women in combat roles. >> the department of justice, the prosecutors will be prosecuted. >> i'm joined now by tyler pager, who is going to be all over these stories in these coming years. washington post white house reporter who, we should note is heading to the new york times in that post. welcome. >> thanks so much for having me. great to be with you. >> what are you watching for in the hearings this week? >> yeah, i think one of the most interesting developments about this second trump term, particularly as it relates to personnel, is how much more loyal these individuals are to trump. in the first term, when he came into office, there was a
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collection of individuals that were put to him by more mainstream establishment republicans. there is a clear loyalty test for these administration officials, and it's very clear across the board. and so as they head into the senate confirmation hearings, they're going to be pressed, particularly by democrats, about some of the positions they've staked out. and it will be interesting to see how they respond under pressure, under oath, in these key moments. i think that's one of the things i'm looking for. but the other thing that i think is really noteworthy, ari, is to just look at how trump has responded, his allies and the people around him to some of the attacks. they at first we saw some wavering, particularly around pete hegseth, but he has really doubled down on all of these nominees. despite the allegations of sexual assault or excessive drinking as it pertains to pete hegseth or some of the claims that you just played by pam bondi about the election, it is very clear that he sees these people as loyal to him and he and his, you know, universe of allies from outside
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the official white house are doing all that it takes to ensure that republicans stay in line and with the, you know, majority that they have, it's very clear that they do not need any democratic votes. so despite the pressure they are going to feel from democratic senators in these hearings, ultimately they could sail through without their support. and it's very clear the trump allies know that and are exerting that pressure on republicans. >> we hear that, and we hear a lot about how the senate republicans are mostly there to help trump get his people through. how do you contrast that with the fact that two people have already dropped, including at the big post of ag? it would seem that there is there has been some pressure already exerted. >> yeah. i think it's quite interesting to see how the fortunes have changed for some of these nominees. in those early days when trump started rolling out some of these nominees, we saw republicans, at least privately, we had reporting that republicans privately had started to raise
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some concerns. i think matt gaetz is in a case of his own. it's very clear from reporting that that was a pick made quite hastily, without the full process of how these nominees are usually selected. but i think after gaetz withdrew from the i'll jump in and i'll let you i'll jump in and then i'll let you finish. >> factually, how different is that from other picks? because there's been a somewhat hasty or if we want to be diplomatic, untraditional process for more than just former nominee gaetz. >> yeah, i think that one was particularly hasty. it sort of played out over the course of an air force one ride to washington. and i think, you know, we have seen that there's been debates, you know, for the treasury secretary position, that one was one that trump really labored over. i think the one thing that has become clear, though, is in the weeks since these picks have been rolled out, trump is now viewing support for his nominees as a new version of a law loyalty test. so whereas in earlier iterations of this process,
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trump may have been more, you know, less immune to some of the outside pressures, it is now very clear that he and his allies view any sort of criticism or lack of support for his nominees as a as a loyalty test. and so we saw with joni ernst, the senator from iowa, who initially was expressing some reservations or hesitancy as it relates to his nomination. very quickly, the pressure started to close in on her, and she has now come out in support of it. so i think there was a period there where it seemed like there may be some opportunity for republicans to express, at least in quiet, some dissent as it relates to some of these picks. but very clearly that that that window of opportunity, it seems, may have disappeared now, with the caveat being we don't know what's going to happen in these hearings and what sort of information we may learn. >> yeah. white house correspondent tyler pager walking us through the facts and the reporting, heading into a big hearing day tomorrow. thank you sir. >> thanks so much. >> yeah. appreciate it. as promised, when we come back, rachel maddow, can you see her
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and how the country responds. which brings us to an announcement as we cover what's happening in the government and the country. rachel maddow is returning five nights a week for these first 100 days of trump's presidency. as usa today put it. maddow returns to nightly msnbc show. for those first hundred days, she'll bring her analysis and her thoughts and reporting evidence based. always interesting to what is obviously an inflection point in our history, and she has spoken out about it. this news broke today with rachel discussing it with usa today. >> you can't ever lose sight of what? that chaos is concealed, the actual actions of the president, the actions of the administration are often much more consequential than whatever crazy thing he's recently said. >> now, that's just a little bit of the backstage discussion about the work that she and her team does here at msnbc. here's what the work looks like.
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>> elections have consequences. >> elections are not just the end of a campaign. >> digging in for another year ahead in america's longest war ever. >> this was russian intelligence at its most ambitious. how's things? >> yeah, a little busy. >> united states supreme court has voted to overturn abortion rights. >> this is the first former president to president to ever be criminally indicted. >> i've been doing this show for ten years. i still have the same haircut. i wear the same $10 blazers. don't worry. don't stress. it'll be okay. >> cheers. >> cheers. and related. our colleague alex wagner is heading into the field for part of this 100 days process. so she'll be recording. reporting from around the country. we also have an official word from her. she was talking to variety because this story today made news in a lot of places saying, quote, the idea is to give msnbc viewers a full 360 degree view of what's
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controlled house of representatives, in an effort to alleviate the effects of the anyone, anyone. >> the great depression passed. >> the. anyone. anyone. the tariff bill, the hawley-smoot tariff act, which anyone raised or lowered, raised tariffs in an effort to collect more revenue for the federal government. did it work? anyone? anyone know the effects? it did not work. >> and the united states sank deeper into the great depression. do tariffs work? anyone? anyone? the script is fiction. the historical reference is true. it came to our mind as we all get ready for these tariff debates. thanks for spending time with us. the reidout starts now.
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