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>> is that a joke? oh, president biden rightly taking credit for a major achievement in the closing days of his administration. >> an historic ceasefire and hostage deal in gaza. >> also tonight, more of trump's picks face questioning on capitol hill, including pam bondi, who still can't bring herself to tell the truth about the 2020 election. >> plus, as we stand by for president biden's farewell address to the nation tonight, a look back at his legacy. >> i'll be joined by rachel maddow, chris hayes, jen psaki and alex wagner. but we begin tonight with big news out of the middle east. hamas and israel have finalized a cease fire deal that will release the remaining hostages and ensure the departure of israeli forces from gaza. the news was greeted with jubilation and tears from tel aviv to khan younis, because it's the first time there is
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real hope in the region. the announcement comes just days before the transfer of power from president biden to donald trump. now this feels like historical deja vu. it's probably because a similar situation happened in 1981, when american hostages being held at the u.s. embassy in tehran were freed just as ronald reagan took over from jimmy carter. >> good evening. >> on the 444th and final day of the hostage crisis, which is also the first day of the new reagan presidency. >> here is how nbc's correspondent explained that deal. >> on the plane coming over, the carter party told reporters that iran will wind up with only $3 billion after withholdings for claims and repayments of loans that carter was close to agreement three times and almost had one just before the election. >> that the final deal was sealed at 9:00 yesterday
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morning, washington time, but the takeoff was probably held off just to embarrass carter one more time. >> a prominent democratic politician at the time told the new york times that he was a witness to republican efforts to prevent the hostages from being freed before election day. president biden is trying to avoid a repeat of what happened to carter and make clear that this deal was the fruit of his administration's labor. >> more than 15 months of conflict that began with hezbollah's brutal massacre on october the 7th, more than 15 months of terror for the hostages, their families, the israeli people. more than 15 months of suffering by the innocent people of gaza fighting in gaza will stop. and soon the hostages will return home to their families. the elements of this deal were what i laid out in detail this past may, which was embraced by countries around
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the world and endorsed overwhelmingly by the un security council. >> president biden and his national security team have been working for over a year to get israel and hamas to sign off on a deal. secretary of state antony blinken has taken 12 trips to the region since hamas attacked israel on october 7th, 2023. national security adviser jake sullivan and cia director william burns have made frequent trips to the region as well. and president biden is correct that this deal appears to be the exact same proposal that he announced last may. what changed? trump, who will assume office on monday at noon, and prime minister benjamin netanyahu has made it no secret that he prefers trump and wanted to deliver him a win. the washington post reported that israel would gift something to trump, but it was believed to be a deal on lebanon. according to reports, netanyahu has been speaking with trump for months. while trump was campaigning for
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reelection. trump previously told axios that netanyahu never wanted peace with the palestinians, but trump told him to do what he had to do with hamas. additionally, some of the parents of hostages and israeli soldiers have been livid at prime minister netanyahu, accusing him of being deceitful and of intentionally extending and expanding the war for his own political benefit, given how he was blamed for the security failures that led up to the october 7th attack. president biden acknowledged that these are waning days of the waning days of his administration, but it was in the interest of the world for his administration to work with trump's incoming administration to get the deal done. >> i'd also note this deal was developed and negotiated under my administration, but its terms will be implemented for the most part by the next administration. in these past few days, we've
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been speaking as one team. i told my team to coordinate closely with the incoming team to make sure we're all speaking with the same voice, because that's what american presidents do. >> lacking the same sense of courtesy and decency, trump immediately took credit for the deal. yet another example of trump putting his name on something someone else built. this deal, which netanyahu delayed for as long as humanly possible, has hung over biden's head for more than a year and was arguably a key factor in vice president harris losing the election as parts of the democratic base peeled off and either stayed home or even voted for trump as the so-called peace candidate. what's past is past, and this deal is the present. it will include two phases. the first will last six weeks and includes a complete ceasefire, withdrawal of israeli forces from populated areas of gaza, and the release of a number of hostages. the exact number to be released was not specified, but
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would include women and the elderly. israel released hundreds of palestinian prisoners, and palestinians can return to their neighborhoods in all areas of gaza. or what remains of those neighborhoods. during those six weeks, they will continue to work on phase two, which will include discussion of rebuilding gaza. while both biden and trump are taking credit for this deal, israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu says the cease fire agreement with hamas is not complete, and that final details are still being worked out. netanyahu has not explicitly said whether he accepts the deal. joining me now is ayman mohyeldin, host of ayman on msnbc, and former cia director john brennan, msnbc senior national security and intelligence analyst. ayman, i do want to start with you, because that later news that we just got not too long ago, it was a bit confusing. we saw the leader of qatar come out and give a very lengthy statement. this deal seemed quite complete. you had president biden come out
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and give a statement, and you saw secretary of state blinken and vice president harris standing behind him. it all seemed very complete. what is your reporting on netanyahu seeming to somewhat walk it back? >> well, our colleagues at nbc have been reporting that, for all intents and purposes, the netanyahu as a person, if you will, as the prime minister has accepted it. but, of course, now it has to work through a mechanism internally within both the israeli security cabinet, the smaller cabinet of key decision makers pertaining to security matters, and then perhaps to a full fledged cabinet vote within the next couple of days. but look, at the end of the day, there are people inside the israeli cabinet that we know of who do not support this deal, who just within the last 48 hours were boasting about how they had blocked previous deals. so there is going to be some internal politics within israel and certainly within the cabinet of trying to posture this deal as saying, look, we just are focusing on phase one. phase two gives us an out. we can
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manipulate this. we can kind of deal with this in different phases and in different ways. but for all intents and purposes, when you have the president of the united states and you have the prime minister of qatar and the egyptian government come out and say that a deal has been reached, you can rest assured that they have gotten an assurance from the israeli prime minister that he is committed to this deal. otherwise they would not have done it. look, i've been in touch with many of these leaders over the last 15 months, and i can assure you there were times when people were reporting a deal is imminent. a deal is imminent. and these negotiators were saying to me, no, they do not have the official. yes, from the key parties. and so as a result, it never materialized except today. so you can expect that in the next couple of days and even in the weeks, there will be political posturing inside israel, some will spin it in different ways. we've already seen some saying this is a bad deal. it should not be accepted. but you can rest assured that as of this evening, there is at least a commitment from the israelis to the americans, to the egyptians and to the qataris that they want to begin this
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phase of the deal. >> john. john brennan, let me bring you in here, because the reality is, is we've gotten to know the names of some israeli officials itamar ben-gvir, mr. smotrich, who are far right members of benjamin netanyahu's coalition. they keep him in power by being part of his coalition. they've been very much opposed to the deal and, as eamon has said, bragging openly that they blocked this exact same deal which has been on the table multiple times, given that this is the exact same deal, nothing other than nothing else has changed. am i wrong to sort of make the illusion that this was delayed and delayed and delayed in part to have the same deal come closer to trump's taking power so that trump could take credit for it? does that ring true to you? >> i think that may be part of it, joy. but i also think that bibi netanyahu could have struck this deal eight months ago when it was first offered by the americans, but i think he wanted to further destroy hamas and in the process, further destroy gaza. and if you look at what
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happened over the last eight months, the thousands of people have been killed in just the destruction, turning gaza really into just a pile of rubble. this is something that i think netanyahu wanted to do. so yes, he does have his right wing cabinet members that he has to, you know, take into account. but i do think he holds sway within that cabinet. and he could have forged this deal earlier. but again, i think he had an agenda, not just in gaza, but i think at that time also, he was anticipating that lebanon and hezbollah was going to also be in his target list. and so therefore that's why he waited. but he gets a benefit. now with trump coming in, he can offer a gift to the incoming administration, but also as a way to, i think, recognize the tremendous efforts that the biden administration made over the past, you know, year plus. >> yeah, i think biden was right to come out and say, this is his deal. it's a deal that he already had put on the table. eamon, let's talk about the bigger regional sort of picture here, because you do have, as director brennan mentioned, you have lebanon, you have syria, which has seen the bashar al assad regime fall. you still
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have issues in yemen. it's a bigger is a bigger picture. and israel is involved in much of that. what does this deal for those of you, those folks that you've spoken with in the region, what do you think? if this deal holds, it means for that bigger picture, you almost have to kind of look at them in different silos, if you will. >> the palestinian-israeli file is one, but i think the one that is going to preoccupy israel and certainly the incoming trump administration, perhaps in the short term, is going to be the iran file. the iran file right now is front and center for a variety of reasons. one, as director brennan was mentioning iran over the last 15 months, and certainly when it came into direct confrontation with israel, has been weakened. its so-called axis of resistance has been shattered. it doesn't command the same kind of operational grip, if you will, across the region. and so there are those who are coming into this new administration, and certainly within israeli politics, who see this is the best and most opportune time to carry out some kind of operation on the iran nuclear program, or
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to perhaps even go for those that have been advocating for regime change in iran. it's the holy grail of regime changes, if you will, in the region for the past 40 years. this may be an opportunity that some see as like, hey, the regime is weakened, what can we do to possibly accelerate it or even weaken it further? there's also the, from trump's perspective, the much sought after extension of the abraham accords, which is to try to get a peace deal between saudi arabia and israel. the saudis have made very clear that will not happen without some kind of movement and acknowledgment of a palestinian state, and that could begin the path to rebuilding gaza, trying to bring gaza in the west bank back into some kind of cohesive political structure. personally speaking, somebody who has covered the region. i just don't see that happening. not the not the saudi agreement, but i just don't see this particular israeli government willing to create the conditions on the ground for a contiguous palestinian state on both the west bank border, west bank and gaza on the 1967 borders, which is what the united states has
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sought for years. >> right. it seems that that is not any closer. director brennan, i mean, you do have that coalition that's made it very clear. what they want is to annex the west bank and annex gaza, and that's part of the coalition that netanyahu is dealing with. can you talk a little bit about what the politics look like with an incoming trump administration that is more transactional, that would like to have an abraham accords, would like to have some sort of normalization to take credit for it. but you've got now the global situation for israel has changed. hamas still exists. it was not eradicated. yahya sinwar is dead. a lot of the leadership is dead, but it isn't gone. so that war aim wasn't achieved. and on the international front, you've seen broad condemnation of the way that israel has conducted this war and charges of genocide, etc, coming from the icc and the international community. what position is israel in with this new administration coming in, in your view? >> well, i think unfortunately,
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it's not just israeli right wing types who are calling for the annexation of west bank. the person who's been named to be the u.s. ambassador to israel, mike huckabee, also has called for that annexation. so i think there are a lot of hard line views. i don't think bibi netanyahu was ever interested in pursuing any type of peace process that would give the palestinians self-determination in their own state, and until those palestinian aspirations are addressed in a meaningful way, i think we're going to continue to have this cycle of violence. yes. i'm so glad that there's a respite in the bloodshed that is going been going on in gaza and for the next 42 days or so. i'm pretty confident that they can manage this in a way that's going to allow those hostages and prisoners to be exchanged. but the phase two and phase three aspirations of this deal are really a reach because there are so many security and governance and economic and reconstruction issues that need to be addressed. and there's really been no foundation laid for that. so yes, i am so happy that we've gotten to this point. but there is a broader regional
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challenge. as ayman pointed out, there's the iran iran issue and whether or not the israelis and the trump administration are going to try to carry out some type of operation against israeli nuclear facilities, either overtly or covertly. so i think there's still a lot to be learned in the coming months. but i am again hopeful that at least this first phase is going to bring at least some relief to the palestinian people of gaza, who have suffered far too long. the most recent estimate that has just come out, i think, today, is that the numbers could be far higher than what we thought it could be 70, 80,000 or so palestinians who have been killed over the last 15 months, a horrendous toll. so we need to be able to address israelis, israel's legitimate security concerns, but also palestinian quest for statehood. >> yeah, we will still be talking about those horrors as time goes on, and we'll see how this deal rolls out. ayman mohyeldin, thank you so much. john brennan is staying with me to discuss day two of trump's cabinet hearings, this time featuring the people who will deliver megas extreme policies
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(800) 378-9643. call now. the first 100 days. it's a critical time for our country. and rachel maddow is on five nights a week. >> now is the time. so we're going to do it. >> settle in the rachel maddow show five nights a week, beginning monday. >> donald trump plans to reshape the u.s. government. >> democrats have wasted no time in laying the groundwork to fight the incoming trump administration. >> donald trump wants a presidential cabinet full of loyalists. >> don't miss the weekend, saturday and sunday mornings at 8:00 on msnbc. >> today was the day that two of confirmation hearings on capitol hill took place. this was the day you saw the people who will deliver maga with a smile. six of donald trump's cabinet picks took a barrage of questions, though not necessarily providing real answers. case in point one of trump's favorite trained tv
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presenters, pam bondi, trump's second pick for attorney general. she is a prime example of a person who fit the two key criteria to get nominated to trump's clown car of a cabinet. first, you have to be someone he likes watching on television. bondi, the former two term attorney general of florida, has been a staple on conservative media, including fox, for years. and the second criteria having complete loyalty to him. and that was on full display today when bondi still would not admit that trump lost the 2020 election. >> are you prepared to say today, under oath, without reservation, that donald trump lost the presidential contest to joe biden in 2020, ranking member durbin president biden is the president of the united states. >> he was duly sworn in, and he is the president of the united states who won the 2020 presidential election. joe biden is the president of the united states. >> you cannot say who won the 2020 presidential election.
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>> i mean, it really shouldn't be that hard to say. yes. trump lost the 2020 election to joe biden. biden bondi also appeared to have a hard time when it came to responding to what trump and his colleagues have said in the past that have been pretty publicly covered. >> would you have hired someone into the florida attorney general's office who you knew had an enemies list? >> senator, to cut to the chase, you're clearly talking about kash patel. i don't believe he has an enemies list. he made a quote on tv which i have not heard. >> have you heard the recording of president trump on january 2nd, 2021, when he urged the secretary of state of georgia to, quote, find 11,780 votes and declare him the winner of that state. >> no, i've heard about it through clips, but no, no, senator, i've not heard it. >> are the felons convicted of breaking into the capitol on january 6th? hostages or patriots? quoting the trump?
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>> i am not familiar with that statement, senator. >> joining me now is dave aronberg, former palm beach county state attorney, who will be a witness tomorrow on day two of the bondi confirmation hearing. and back with me is former cia director john brennan. i mean, she goes into robot mode, but they all have to do it, right? they pretend they don't. they don't know that that donald trump lost the election because that is a requirement. let me play you, senator alex padilla, trying to make her actually answer the question. if she has evidence that there was some sort of fraud in the election. >> listen, i'm glad you asked the question about pennsylvania. >> yes or no question, i was hoping. do you have evidence, yes or no? >> senator, i was hoping you'd ask the question. do you have evidence? yes or no? i traveled to pennsylvania. >> do you have the evidence? >> i traveled to pennsylvania. >> okay. >> you're not answering my question. if you have no evidence to offer, let me ask you this. will you now retract your previous statements that trump won pennsylvania in the 2020 election? yes or no? >> oh, senator, i traveled to pennsylvania. and let me tell you what i saw first. yes or no?
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i didn't talk about california because i was not in california. i talked about yes or no. i talked about i talked about pennsylvania because i was there. >> i'm going to move. >> dave. she's an intelligent person. you worked with her. that's why you're testifying. you know her. you know she's intelligent enough to know that donald trump lost the election. why do they do that? donald trump would never appoint an attorney general who would contradict him on his bogus election fraud claims. >> now, pam bondi, i thought, went as far as anyone would because she said she would accept the results. she accepted the results of 2020. she never used the f word there. fraud. she said she saw things. so what does that tell? >> but what does that tell you about what she'd be willing to do? she's not willing to say the truth about the election. she was also asked if she's going to investigate and prosecute jack smith and the press. let's listen to that. >> the president has said jack smith should go to jail. will you investigate jack smith?
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>> senator, i haven't seen the file. i haven't seen the investigation. i haven't looked at anything. it would be irresponsible of me to make a commitment regarding anything. >> under what circumstances will you prosecute journalists for what they write? >> i believe in the freedom of speech only if anyone commits a crime. >> dave, that does not make me confident that she would not prosecute the press and not prosecute jack smith. are you confident that she would uphold the law and not prosecute people donald trump tells her to? >> i really do believe that she is tethered to the law. and joe, you and i know each other for a while. i've known pam bondi because i ran against her. i was running for attorney general in 2010. i didn't even get through the primary. i lost in the democratic primary to a friend of yours, dan gelber. i know him. and then pam bondi. even though i endorsed dan gelber in the general election, she appointed me her drug czar. so we together went after those pill mills. she talked a lot
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about the opioid epidemic in her comments. she does deserve credit for that. she reached across party lines to hire me as a democrat. she got a lot of grief for it. so my experience with her is that i do believe that if she is asked to do something knowingly illegal, she will say no. i do believe she's tethered to the law and then she'll get fired. very possibly. but she's no matt gaetz. she's not going to go in there to burn the house down. she is tethered to the law. she believes in the rule of law. she said. >> kash patel doesn't have an enemies list that doesn't even strike anyone as credible. he published it. >> well, yeah. yeah. right. right, right. well, she said there will not be an enemies list within the department of justice. look, i'm not a pollyanna. she's going to do things i disagree with. she's going to, i think, investigate the investigators. but do i believe she'll walk out? anthony fauci, adam schiff, liz cheney in handcuffs because they're political enemies? no way. i think she will push back against trump if he tells her to do something illegal, and she will follow the evidence and the law, she's she wouldn't. if i were president of united states, i would pick like a sally yates to be my attorney general. i wish biden had right. anyway, sorry,
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but our but our folks are not president. yeah, and so trump gets to pick his attorney general. and i think i think pam bondi is the best as we democrats could ask for in this situation. >> she's definitely better than the alternative, the original choice, for sure. let me let me go to you, director brennan. only, by the way, only 2 in 10 americans at this point, even republicans are not confident that the justice department will not be biased under the new administration. their confidence isn't high. let's talk about marco rubio, who is the other person, the other floridian? normie? somewhat normie. he's morphed himself into a tea partier, and now he's forced himself into maga. he originally despised donald trump. here he is talking about the ukraine russia war and his thoughts on that. >> the truth of the matter is that in this conflict, there is no way russia takes all of ukraine. the ukrainians are too brave and fight too hard, and the country is too big. that's not going to happen. it's also unrealistic to believe that somehow a nation the size of ukraine, no matter how incompetent and no matter how much damage the russian federation has suffered as a result of this invasion, there
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is no way ukraine is also going to push these people all the way back to where they were on the eve of the invasion. i think it's important that the ukrainians have leverage, but they also will have to make concessions to reach this agreement. it's going to be very difficult. >> director brennan, i feel like this will be the biggest adjustment. i mean, this man is a hawk on russia, and trump is a fan of russia, and he's going into an administration that is going to largely take russia's side in the ukraine war. how worried are you that marco rubio, who's, you know, whose morals are flexible, will give in and take russia's side because trump tells him to? >> well, i think he signaled today that the trump administration is going to be seeking some type of agreement that is going to allow russia to retain a portion of ukraine, eastern ukraine, because marco said, there's no way that the russians are going to take all of ukraine, which to me, i interpret that as well. they've taken part of ukraine. and so i do think that the trump administration aims to have some type of cease fire that's basically going to allow the
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current, the status quo to remain pro forma de facto, even de jure, for part of the eastern ukraine that russia has already annexed. so i do believe that the trump administration is going to scale back significantly and pretty quickly. the support that we have been providing to ukraine and is going to allow russia to retain a significant part of that country. >> it's going to be interesting also to see to see what his thoughts are on cuba. biden administration did remove cuba from the state sponsors of terrorist list. it's a big issue in florida, where i lived for a while, and it's where i got to know you. what do you think? >> and i never understood why joe biden didn't go back to obama's policy of opening up the flights to cuba. jetblue used to fly there directly, and then that was ended under trump and never restarted under biden. so now that biden did this on his way out, i was just wondering why he didn't do more before he was on his way out. >> yeah. let's talk about some of the other people. this is john ratcliffe, and this is he was asked about firing cia
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employees for their political views. this is for you, director brennan. >> what assurances can you provide to this committee and to the cia workforce that you will resist efforts to fire or force out career cia employees because of their perceived political views, or somehow their views of loyalty to the president? >> well, i think the best example of that, mr. vice chairman, is if you look at my record and my record as dni, that never took place, that is never something anyone has alleged, and it's something that i would never do. >> we did look at his record. john brennan, he was dni from 2020 to 2021, according to politico, he released russian disinformation on hillary clinton that had been rejected by the bipartisan senate panel. i think marco rubio served on. and the assessment claims that hillary clinton, then a democratic candidate for president, personally approved an effort to stir up a scandal against donald trump by tying
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him to putin and the russians, hacking the democratic national committee. so he already did do the things. so are you confident? and by the way, he'd be reporting, and this one is almost a joke, but it's not. he'd be reporting to tulsi gabbard. >> well, let's hope that tulsi gabbard is not going to get confirmed as director of national intelligence, because that really is an awful, awful choice. john ratcliffe does have background as the director of national intelligence. for at least a part of a year. he was on the intelligence committee of the house. so he does have that experience. his partizan stripes were showing a bit while he was dni. i don't think he fired anybody, though. while he was director for political reasons, but i think he did fall prey to some of trump's pressure on the eve of the 2020 election, when he very selectively declassified intelligence that tried to support trump. so again, he's he's better than many. but i do think the men and women of the cia probably are reassured that there's somebody like john
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ratcliffe, as opposed to a tulsi gabbard or a kash patel or whatever else. again, this election could have been much worse. >> i agree, today was the day when you could kind of breathe because the people were somewhat normal. i mean, those of us who lived in florida, you know, i mean, like you said, i don't agree politically with them, but they are normal people. like, what are you going to talk about tomorrow? what do you expect to be asked? and what will you say about pam bondi? >> i'm just going to tell the truth about my experience where she did put her neck out on the line to bring me on as the drug czar. when republicans were chastising her for it because they thought it would resurrect a political career that had just been shelved. and they were right. because then two years later, i was elected state attorney. that was for the past 12 years. so my experience with her has been positive. it really has. and i know that a lot of people are upset about some of the election stuff. but you know, sally yates playing the game. yeah. well sally yates and walked through the door. and so you have to say who are we going to get from donald trump. right. and she said today that she was serving as an advocate that sets
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visit us at gofundme.com. >> a house oversight committee hearing was briefly derailed yesterday after representative jasmine crockett criticism of nancy macy's fixation on anti-trans messaging led to this extraordinary moment. >> i can see that somebody's campaign coffers really are struggling right now. >> so she going to keep saying trans, trans, trans so that people will feel threatened and child, listen, i want you to know whether or not call me a child. >> i am no child. >> i don't even start out. >> i'm a grown. which of those emails i actually have german in
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my time. >> you will not do that. i am not a child in my time. >> if you want to take it outside, mr. chairman, republican chair james comer ultimately ruled that threatening another member is okay as long as it's in the form of a question or if you know, it's republicans doing it. >> also, if you needed any further confirmation that nancy mace lives a homogeneous lifestyle, representative crockett said child, not child. nancy mace is from south carolina. americas og slave market, which to this day is composed of one third black people. so, you know, you'd think she'd be passingly familiar with the term appoint congresswoman crockett, underscored by tweeting the loan word after the exchange. and congresswoman crockett joins me now. congresswoman, there's a thing that the young folks call clout chasing. oh, absolutely. let me show you the pin tweet on nancy mace's twitter right now. here's two tweets. one, i am no child. i'm going the f u c k
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off. so cussing threatening you. what is happening here? listen. >> i don't really know what to say. >> of donald trump's party because it's not the republican party. >> and for anyone who considers themselves to be a republican, then i ask you, if you are someone that believes in small government, if you are someone who believes in family values, if you are someone who believes in law and order, there is nothing about the people that still have a r in front of their name that lines up. with that, it is time to find a new home. i know that it can be easy to just say, well, let me select the r, but if we're going to get back to real standards, and if we're going to actually get back to conducting business in the house, then we need to get some serious people. and right now, people play on the fact that they can make money. i literally had my team look up her fec documents because i in my soul, i was like, you must be broke.
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she's not exactly broke, but i have three times as much money on hand. she needs some more money. so this was about money and the idea that you would do it at the expense of children, or the idea that you would do it at the expense of one of your colleagues, is a problem. and the fact that you would go so far as to try to threaten violence and then hide behind the fact that they don't believe in law and order and then want to play with me because she knew that i was about to go in on her, and she thought that maybe she was going to end up with a b6 moment like her friend marjorie. and ultimately she kind of did, because people are asking for the t shirts and we got to help them out. >> i mean, the reality is, is to your point of trying to raise money, she's obviously looking for attention. this is somebody who said to her aides, allegedly, that she wanted during january 6th to get punched in the face so that she could go on fox with a bruised face. this is somebody who knows that her party spent more than $200 million, $215 million on tv ads, specifically attacking trans rights. she used to be pro
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trans. she used to be pro lgbtq. she shifted and now has decided this is her mission. it's her ministry. let me play the other thing that's on one of those pinned tweets on her. the video that's on it. >> coming from a party that can't define what a woman is and won't give women the right to privacy. you all want men with penises, chicks with in the bathroom with us. >> you want women to be forced to undress in front of men, in the locker room and in dressing rooms, and it's so hypocritical for you to sit here and say and be, you know, screaming from the rooftops about the right to privacy and civil rights when you don't respect women. >> there's a level of vulgarity there that i think is indecorous for a member of congress the whole b6 moment. and we've talked about this, came from you avoiding saying another a curse word that starts with b. and so
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the idea is that you went out of your way to not use a vulgarity with a member, a fellow member. yeah. and that's how that whole moment happened. the fact that she not only felt the need to attack you and threaten you, but that she literally used another vulgarity on camera. yeah. in the well of the house. yeah. do you believe she should be sanctioned? and what do you make of her ethics and her morals? >> okay, so there are no ethics. there are no morals. but we know that that's throughout the maga kind of establishment, right? we i mean, look at the guy that's about to swear in i mean, no, i mean, he is setting the standard and we know that that is very low. i do think, though, again, this goes back to if you really are a true red republican, is this what you think of when you think of family values, that the fact that your children cannot watch a committee hearing on c-span, correct. on c-span, because you never know if
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somebody like this is going to just randomly this was an organizational meeting. this was not a hearing about trans folk. i do want to be clear, but every single hearing she is going to talk about trans people. she did it today when we had a telework hearing. i don't know what trans folk got to do with telework, but she was going to make sure that she brought it in. so she's going to keep doing it because for some reason she's making money. but i'm telling you, she's not even making good money off of it. like you probably could find something else to do. maybe start serving your constituents, maybe actually come up with legislation that will help them so that they know that they will be safer when the next storm comes through on the east coast, maybe figure out how to bring some jobs to your constituents in south carolina. maybe figure out how you can have worker protections for the people that are working in factories in south carolina. i got i got a long list of stuff she could do. yeah, that would actually be helpful to not only her coffers, but also her constituents. >> yeah, she's introduced more than a half a dozen bills
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>> in just a few minutes. president joe biden will deliver a farewell speech from the oval office that is expected to focus on key achievements of his administration at this critical moment in our democracy. let's bring in our all star panel of msnbc hosts and trusted colleagues. rachel maddow, host of the eponymous rachel maddow show. chris hayes, host of all in. alex wagner, host of alex wagner tonight. and jen psaki, host of inside with jen psaki. all of the shows have our names in them. it's coincidental. let's go to you first, rachel. your thoughts? >> you know, i'm i'm really interested to see this. >> all presidents do a little bit of a farewell tour where they go to various agencies or various, you know, important settings, and they talk about what they've done, with the exception of donald trump, who kind of didn't do that. >> he just said, bye on the tarmac. we'll be back. but, you know, biden has been as a president, i would argue, very good at getting things done, not as good at taking credit for
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them and explaining to the public what they were and why they were important. this is kind of his last chance to do that. >> and it's a capstone to what has been, you know, a half century long career in politics. i'm really interested to hear how he handles it. >> indeed. all right. if this was a clock, i'm just going to go around the dial. chris hayes, your thoughts? >> yeah. it's been interesting to be covering the state funeral for jimmy carter, because it's interesting to compare both the kind of long sweep of history, the, you know, the moment in which a president has a set of political conditions that they cannot control. and then the judgment of decades later. and i think there will be a really interesting interplay between those two things about the joe biden presidency. and this is his first attempt to kind of write his version of it on the way out the door. >> yeah, indeed. jen. >> i mean, this is a man who's been in public office for 50 years. >> he's a man who ran for president almost 40 years ago. you can't summarize that in a 15 minute speech. nobody can. but
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one of the things i think is a unique challenge for him, to rachel's point, presidents do this. >> they talk about what they've accomplished, but they also often talk about the road ahead and what the challenges are and what to be optimistic about and what to watch out for. for joe biden, one of the biggest challenges and threats is the guy who's about to take the seat that he is currently in. >> yeah, i don't expect him to mention his name, but how does he do that in a way that meets the moment for the country of people who are trying to make sense of it. >> and for democrats who still feel deeply disappointed and worried and concerned about the outcome. >> yeah, indeed. >> alex, i'm struck by something that both rachel and chris talked about, which is the disconnect between how i think history will look at the biden presidency and how it's being covered in real time or discussed in real time. >> you know, it's not just the economy. joe biden on his way out is like protecting millions of acres of wildlife from from developing and drilling. and he's, you know, he's forgiven so much student loan debt. >> he's he's removed medical debt from credit reports. i mean, he's done these systematic
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things to make life easier for the american working class and got no credit for them. he's leaving office with one of the strongest economies in presidential history, one of the lowest unemployment rates. >> and yet. >> right. he's leaving office because his his version of the white house didn't make it across the finish line. and donald trump is coming in. >> the other thing that i'm fascinated by, just as someone who's interested in the sort of cultural moment that attends the us presidency, is the role biden has played in you. >> and i have talked about this joy as the wingman to barack obama, the man who brought kamala harris in as the nation's first indian black female vice president, the man who has sort of bookended the or has been sandwiched between trump administrations. he has such a unique sort of zelig like figure in these american presidencies. he's made so much history just by being there. and i think this is the closing hour of his presidency. and we shouldn't forget that backdrop as we listen to what the man himself has to say.
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>> yeah. >> no, absolutely. and i mean, rachel, this is also coming on the same day as we had this, you know, monumental hostage deal announced, which is also part of biden's legacy. we talked about it earlier that, you know, there was almost this sort of carter, reagan, george herbert walker bush moment where donald trump tried to sort of steal his his thunder on that and tried to claim credit for it, but it really is his negotiation, you know, however long it took. but how does that even factor in to his legacy? >> yeah, it's fascinating. >> and the timing of it is important, i thought when he turned to the press corps today and he was asked as he was walking away from the podium, does donald trump deserve credit for this? >> and he turned around and said, are you joking? >> i thought, you know, showed a little spark there, which was which was helpful. >> listen, i mean, he has had a difficult presidency for all the things that he's accomplished. you know, he's you know, there was he had to deal with the israel-gaza conflict. he had to deal with the russia ukraine invasion. he had to deal with ending america's longest war in afghanistan. and how difficult
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the, the execution was of the pullout of u.s. troops from afghanistan. i mean, all those things are real. >> and i don't think we know the historical long term view on all of those things. >> but for him to be able to announce a cease fire and the release of the hostages today before he leaves office has to go down in gold letters in what he's done. >> and nobody, nobody will ever be able to take that away from him, even though donald trump will try. >> yeah, absolutely. and chris, i mean, he didn't start any new wars, but the one war that bedeviled him probably also bedeviled and took down his successor, his chosen successor. >> i think it had a huge impact, even if it didn't show up in the polling. but we'll see how much he talks about that tonight. >> indeed. and that is tonight's reidout. okay, we're just moments away from president biden's farewell address to the nation. we will bring that to you. handing off now to chris hayes. >> and thank you, joy. stay right with us. it is 8:00 on the east coast. in just a few moments, as we said, president united states joe biden will deliver his farewell address to th
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