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my terms. thanks. medical guardian, five foot nine men not included. >> good day. i'm chris jansing, live at msnbc headquarters in new york city. history on hold.
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israeli prime minister netanyahu blaming hamas for a last minute crisis that's delayed a vote on the gaza cease fire until friday. the latest on the incredibly high stakes and the scramble going on right now to keep that hard won deal on track. plus, farewell and fair warning after a half century in politics, joe biden uses his final oval office address to praise the magic of america, while cautioning that the country he loves is under threat from modern day oligarchs. >> one of biden's staunchest allies, congressman jim clyburn, joins me to break it down. >> and today, we learned that alongside other tech leaders, the ceo of tiktok will have a seat of honor at donald trump's inauguration, potentially just hours after his company is banned in the us. >> does that tell us anything about the company's future, or what's in store for the 170 million tiktok users nationwide? so much to get to on this thursday. >> but we begin with the fragile prospects for peace in gaza.
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>> israel claiming earlier today hamas had reneged on parts of the ceasefire and hostage agreement in an effort to extort last minute concessions. hamas denies those allegations and says it is committed. but whatever is happening behind the scenes, a source tells nbc news now that israeli security cabinet has delayed a vote on it until tomorrow. the hard fought deal, announced just yesterday, is supposed to start on sunday and could end 15 months of deadly fighting. but for now, the nightmare in gaza continues and we warn that this video you're going to see now is distressing. a little boy rescued from the rubble of a bombed building just hours after the cease fire agreement was announced. he had used his own hands to try to free himself. his mouth filled with dust and debris. his aunt, uncle and baby sister, who was born on the day of the hamas attack in israel, were all killed in that strike, according to gaza's civil
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defense, 83 people, including 23 children, have been killed in israeli strikes since the cease fire announcement. nbc's daniele hamamdjian is reporting from tel aviv's hostage square. also with us, nbc's chief white house correspondent peter alexander and aaron david miller is a former arab-israeli negotiator and senior fellow at the carnegie endowment for international peace. daniele. the announcement of this deal was met with jubilation and some cautious optimism as well, depending on whether you're in gaza or israel. but the truce is still not official. so what do we know about the hold up? >> of the story? well, you're right, it's absolutely fragile. this truce and what we know well, what one israeli official said was that there were a number of issues. among them were the identities, the names of the palestinians to be released. now, of course, in exchange for the hostages who will be returning to israel,
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israel will be releasing a number of palestinian prisoners, hundreds of them, and some of them are high profile palestinian convicts, murderers, people israel describes as having blood on their hands. so according to israelis, that was one of the issues. now, what we know and what you mentioned just a few seconds ago, is that this security cabinet is now going to go ahead tomorrow. it was scheduled for today, going to head for tomorrow, and then the government will then have to vote to ratify this deal. what happens next? there needs to be 48 hours given to israeli citizens, a chance to protest the release of certain palestinian prisoners, because a list will be made public of who exactly will be released, and so they'll have a chance to take it to the supreme court. things will be moving, as you can imagine, quite quickly. and now israeli media is reporting that on sunday it's all going to start just after 12:00 local
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time here. the first hostages to be released will be three women who they are. we don't yet know, but that will be the beginning of the ceasefire of stage one. after that, on day seven, we'll see four more hostages. and every week after that, we should see three more. up until week number six, we will see the rest of the hostages released during this time. as i mentioned, hundreds of palestinian detainees will be released. the israeli forces will gradually withdraw from the densely populated areas. gazans will be allowed to return to northern gaza, and very critically, hundreds of trucks filled with food, medicine, humanitarian aid will be allowed to go in. the tricky part here, chris will be negotiating stage two, and this is why this deal does not have unanimous support. there are families who are opposed to it because they believe that those who those hostages slated to be released in stage two, will
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never come back because they consider this to be a death sentence. stage one will go ahead and then things they fear will fall apart after that. >> chris daniele hamamdjian, thank you for that. so, peter, i wonder what we're hearing from the biden administration. is there any level of concern that you're sensing about this delay in the security cabinet of israel? >> yeah, we heard from the secretary of state, antony blinken, within the last two hours or so, saying that he remains confident that the implementation of this cease fire agreement will go ahead. >> on sunday. he acknowledged that in a situation like this, with a negotiation that has been so complex and has lasted for so long, that it's not surprising that there would be challenges like the ones we are seeing right now. >> and he says he has been on the phone in one form or another for most of this day with the qataris, who, of course, are brokering this deal on the ground there in the region right now, alongside, of course, the us, israel and hamas. >> we also heard earlier today from the national security
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council's communications advisor, john kirby, detailing that level of confidence and the sense that this will not, in his words, be derailed. listen to kirby. >> we do believe that we're going to be able to close those remaining gaps. this is not an issue that is going to derail the whole implementation of the deal. and as secretary blinken rightly said, we fully expect and we're confident that we're going to be able to get this deal in place by by sunday. >> john kirby, also indicating that it was president biden's own message that both the incoming and outgoing administrations would be working, as he said, as one team, recognizing that it is the trump administration when it arrives here in only a matter of days, ultimately that will be responsible for the implementation of this cease fire agreement. >> there was much discussion in the last 24 hours about who deserves credit at a time like this. >> john kirby said there is plenty of credit to go around saying that the hostages and those who have lost loved ones in gaza don't care about credit.
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they just want to see the war end. >> chris, thank you so much. peter alexander at the white house for us. so, erin, you just heard john kirby say he is confident that this deal will indeed be in place, that things will start moving on sunday. are you confident? >> i am, i think that it's an extraordinary accomplishment whether you actually get to phase two and in the war in gaza and see all the hostages returned according to this schedule. the 4242 weeks, 342 week periods is unclear right now. but the picture you showed chris of this little boy literally clawing his way out of the rubble on one hand, and the fate, the dire fate of hostages. and remember, for the israelis, this will be a time not just of celebration for those hostage families who will be getting live hostages back, but there will be hostages, the bodies of hostages who are no longer alive return. it will be a time of
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mourning as well, but it really does. the boy in gaza, the hostage situation reflects the essential human human aspect of this conflict. and there's a long way to go. but i and i'm usually not terribly upbeat on these matters when it comes to israeli-palestinian negotiations. but this offer is something that we have not seen in 15 months, and we can't dismiss it. return of hostages a partial deal, to be sure. six weeks of a cease fire, of quiet, something gazans have not experienced since october 7th and eight. the surging of humanitarian assistance and the prospects, perhaps, of additional exchanges of hostages for palestinian prisoners. it's a break in a in a in a terrible conflict, a terrible year and a half of horrors. we need to pocket it, but also be very sober and realistic about what's to come. it's going to be very
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difficult for hamas or the current israeli government to implement the second phase of this agreement. and one last point. donald trump, the president elect, may have thought that this agenda item was now off of his to do list. quite the contrary. donald trump now owns this agreement and how they how the new administration comports itself, the time it spends, the focus that it brings to this problem is going to be critically important to its success, or alternatively, to its failure and understanding. >> we don't know what approach donald trump will take. let me ask you, aaron, as a as a former arab-israeli negotiator, once things get in place on sunday, assuming that they do, and the acknowledgment that phases two and three are going to be very complicated, what do negotiators do in the interim, and what do the key governments do in the interim to try to make two and three even possible? >> yeah, it's a fascinating
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question, chris. and what what i haven't seen or even seen speculated about in all of the tiktok surrounding this deal is who is going to observe, monitor and facilitate implementation. we don't know that. i mean, presumably the qataris and the egyptians will work on hamas. it's going to be left largely to the united states, i think, to facilitate. and ensure that the israelis are are fulfilling their obligations. and that, i think, is critically important. you know, after the signing ceremony, there haven't been few that i participated in. but there was that morning after when you actually realized that. now the question was how to turn things on paper and oral commitments and assurances into productive changes on the ground. and that is going to be the challenge here. and i must
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say, again, i'm tending toward optimism. if, in fact, you do get six weeks of ceasefire, if in fact, hamas keeps its pledges with respect to returning hostages, if, in fact, the israelis withdraw from the areas where they have been designated to withdraw from, and you get a surge of humanitarian assistance, it may well be possible to build on this to create a measure of confidence between two parties who are actually seeking one another's mutual destruction, but nonetheless, to use this framework to broaden it and try to create a better pathway for israelis and palestinians. but first things first. let's hope, and i suspect you'll see, hostages returned, three female prisoners, idf soldiers, i'm told on sunday. >> aaron david miller, thank you so much. it's always good to have you on the program. and coming up in 90s, president biden's stark new warning for the future of democracy ahead of donald trump's return. we'll get
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made clear the dangers he sees taking shape in the country that he'll lead for just four more days. >> i want to warn the country of some things that give me great concern. this is a dangerous country, and that's a dangerous concentration of power in the hands of a very few ultra wealthy people. the dangerous consequences if their abuse of power is left unchecked. today, an oligarchy is taking shape in america of extreme wealth, power and influence that literally threatens our entire democracy. our basic rights and freedoms, and a fair shot for everyone to get ahead. >> nbc's aaron gilchrist is reporting from washington, d.c. aaron, that was arguably the most telling moment. just the use of the word oligarchy, warning of a weakening democracy, a corrupt government. that's what those. that word sort of means to so many people. so talk more about that and the
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message that he wanted to send. >> yeah, that warning definitely caught people's attention. chris, this was something that the president said without naming donald trump at any point during his speech, but seemingly pointing the finger at him. obviously, we know that the incoming president is a billionaire, and he has surrounded himself with the likes of elon musk, a billionaire, a tech giant. >> we know that he's had conversations with folks like mark zuckerberg, the head of meta, facebook, instagram and others who are extremely wealthy. and so this comment from the president seemed to be pointed at those people. there were other parts of the president's speech last night where he also seemed to be talking about the president elect. i want you to hear what the president said about changing the constitution. >> we need to amend the constitution to make clear that no president, no president is immune from crimes that he or she commits while in office. the president's power is not limited. it's not absolute, and it shouldn't be in a democracy.
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there's another danger that the concentration of power and wealth. it erodes the sense of unity and common purpose. it causes distrust and division, participating in our democracy becomes exhausting and even disillusioning, and people don't feel like they have a fair shot. >> now, the president did go on to talk about some of the work that he's done over the last four years, his accomplishments, he believes, as it relates to the economy, as it relates to protecting the environment, the work that he's done around the world with other countries and shoring up american relationships in the indo-pacific and in europe, for example. >> chris, the president did, though, wish the incoming administration well, success, he said, because he believes that that means success for america. chris. >> aaron gilchrist, thank you. and joining us now is democratic congressman of south carolina, james clyburn, widely credited as the man who helped joe biden win the presidency in 2020.
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congressman, it is always a pleasure to have you on the program. it is notable, i think, that president biden spent so much of his address with warnings, knowing the influence of elon musk and moving the movement to trump from mark zuckerberg. you know him well, what does it say to you that he spent so much time in this farewell speech as a warning, as much as a victory lap? >> well, thank you very much for having me. >> you know, i always say, in fact, it was the title of my memoirs, blessed experiences. >> and i said in that book that all of us can be no more nor no less than what our experiences allow us to be. >> joe biden has had a set of experiences that allowed him to understand what it's like to grow up on hardscrabble road, to get an opportunity, get a public
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education, and go on to give public service and to give back in a very public way. he knows from his experiences that this society that we have, this great country that we live in, thrives on people having opportunities. he talked about that all the time. and if we are not careful, we will allow the elite, the be the only ones educated. we will allow the wealthy to be the only ones who can make a decent living, or yet be the affordability of a home ownership. this is what he is talking about. an opportunity society that allows everybody, irrespective of what zip code you may have been born in, to
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have an opportunity to make it in america. that is what this is all about. and so i applaud joe biden for sounding that warning. as much like eisenhower did when he left the presidency and saw that we were threatening to be overcome by the military industrial complex. the country responded then i hope we will respond now and make sure that this country stays the kind of country of opportunity for everybody. >> i'm sure you know that. there is a new poll that shows joe biden's final approval rating matches the lowest of his presidency. it's at 36%, and i want to play what president biden said last night about how he feels his accomplishments will be received. >> it will take time to feel the full impact of all we've done together. but the seeds are planted and they'll grow and
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they'll bloom for decades to come. >> given everything that was in place when he took office, covid the economic challenges, do you think that this was in some ways inevitable? and how do you think history will judge this presidency? >> i think that he will go down as one of the greatest presidents we ever had. i think the same thing about jimmy carter, who we just funeralized. jimmy carter left the presidency with very, very low ratings. harry truman, the same thing. people who do big things, people who break with the status quo. these people do not get judged well in the currency. but when history gets a chance to look back to read the things he said and did, rather than to respond
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to the way he said them. i heard people this morning or last night talking about him not being a great communicator. well, some people are good speakers, other people are great doers, and some people just know how to write. and that is what is all about. we are judging people on substance when we look back on them, not on style. if you're looking for style, joe biden is not your guy on substance. he's everybody's person. >> we are now learning that nancy pelosi, your colleague, will not be attending donald trump's inauguration. so i'm wondering, congressman, will you be there? >> i plan to be there. i'll be with joe biden in charleston, south carolina, all day sunday. i will be here with joe biden and whoever else may be in attendance on monday, and i will
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be wearing my south carolina state garnet hat. >> whoever else will be in attendance leads me to the question of, are you hearing of other democrats who have decided to sit it out? >> well, i'm sure there will be others who will. there may be even some republicans who will. i just hope the weather will cooperate. as you see, i'm bundled up today and from what i hear, i may need to be even more so on monday. and there are some people who are not going to attend because of the weather, but people will make something out of it, and there may be a few people who won't attend for other political reasons as well. but that's the way it is. we are a free country. people do not are not forced to participate in the political process. they do so by choice. and if they make the choice not to attend, that's fine. i plan to be there because i plan to represent my constituents in every way that i possibly can. and being at the
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inauguration is one way for me to do that. >> you may need to layer that south carolina swag, though there is no doubt about the forecast. congressman jim clyburn i'll be there as well. i'll be layered as well. thank you so much. we always appreciate having you on the show. >> thank you very much for having me. >> and be sure to tune in tonight when president biden sits down with my colleague lawrence o'donnell in the final exclusive oval office interview of his presidency. that's tonight on the last word. 10 p.m. eastern, right here on msnbc. and coming up, the democrat who just went before the senate to vouch for pam bondi joins us live. why he believes she is the right pick to serve as donald trump's attorney general. that's next. >> i'm sick of women having to do everything. >> i'm sick of animal cruelty. >> sick of the addiction that i have. >> i'm sick of mom guilt. >> i'm sick of our health care system. >> i'm sick of greed.
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you can't. >> give voice to that fact. >> dave aronberg testified on bondi's behalf earlier today on capitol hill. he worked with her in florida. he is also a former state attorney for palm beach county and a democrat. and he joins me from washington. always good to see you, dave. you know, pam bondi, you worked with her. you support her for democrats who say those kinds of answers make them nervous about what kind of attorney general she would be. what do you say, chris? >> good to be with you. >> yeah. >> sally yates, doug jones, they're not walking through the door. pam bondi is going to be the best person that democrats could ask for. for donald trump to appoint to be attorney general, she's way better than matt gaetz. she is tethered to the law. and as far as election denialism, yes. when she was an attorney for donald trump, she was acting as an advocate. she talked about it yesterday, but she didn't go as far as others. she wasn't spreading lies like rudy giuliani and defamation actions. she has taken a step back from it. she says she
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accepts the election results. and look, donald trump was never going to appoint someone to be attorney general who was going to contradict him on his election fraud lies. the election was fair. it was secure. it was safe, and it's legitimate. and i don't think pam bondi, though, will do anything to knowingly violate the law, even if donald trump asks her to do so. >> well, let me play a little more of what pam bondi had to say when she was pressed on whether she would go after trump's political adversaries, the president has said jack smith should go to jail. >> will you investigate jack smith? >> senator, i haven't seen the file. i haven't seen the investigation. i haven't looked at anything. it would be irresponsible of me to make a commitment regarding anything. >> the president also wants to jail liz cheney sitting here today. are you aware of any factual basis to investigate liz cheney, yes or no? >> senator, that's a hypothetical, and i'm not going to answer that. >> no, it's not a hypothetical.
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>> i'm asking you sitting here today whether you are aware of a factual predicate to investigate liz cheney. >> senator, no one has asked you to investigate liz cheney, that is, the president has called for it publicly. >> you are aware of that, aren't you? >> no one has asked me to investigate. but the president is also worried about liz cheney. >> the president has called for this. >> be worried about miss bondi. please answer my questions right now. you are aware the roof. >> so that obviously wasn't the response congressman schiff was looking for. but do you think it was appropriate? i mean, it does seem, dave, to be honest, that the stock answer for many of trump's nominees is that's a hypothetical. but if you want to know how someone would act, if you're going to support them, isn't every question, to at least some extent hypothetical? >> sure. >> but this is a game that all nominees have played on both sides of the aisle. it's this. we don't want to say too much. it would jeopardize the nomination. so you say i'm not going to talk about hypotheticals. i can only talk about my experience with pam bondi. you know, chris, i ran
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against her in 2010 for attorney general. i lost, she won. she then hired me as her drug czar. so she has a history of working across party lines. that's why i was there today to talk about my experience with her. she's not a big partizan. running for attorney general was her first ever race she ever ran for, and she got a lot of grief for bringing on a democrat. so i just say that, you know, democrats, we should pick our battles. i think that tulsi gabbard is a clear and present danger to american national security. pam bondi is not i think she's as good as we can ask for in this role as attorney general. >> well, i wonder in that realm, your own personal experience showing she's willing to reach across the aisle and we know there's an exhausted public who's asking for more bipartisanship. do you sense that democrats are moving beyond the anguish of the election results to the realization that there may be may be a chance to build bridges to the other party? is it a pam bondi who can help make that happen? >> i hope so, i think she's going to focus on things that are going to get bipartisan support, like stopping the flow
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of fentanyl, the real killer, the number one killer within the opioid epidemic. i think she'll go after some of the blatant anti-semitism that you see growing across our country using federal resources. so i think there are things we can all agree on, like human trafficking, to be able to get tough on human trafficking. at the same time, have a kinder touch when it comes to the victims who need to stay in this country through t visas. and so i think she's going to be on the right side of a lot of these issues where it gets controversial, chris, is when it comes to when donald trump inevitably asks her to do something improper. and although i do think she's going to investigate the investigators like john durham did under bill barr's leadership, we've seen this before. it blew up in their face. i think even though she'll do that, i don't think she'll walk out anthony fauci or liz cheney or adam schiff in handcuffs. that's not who she is. she's a career prosecutor, not a political hack. >> is she the person who will say no to donald trump if that's what's needed? >> i think she will. and i think she has credibility with trump because she's in his inner circle. unlike jeff sessions,
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unlike bill barr, i think when she pushes back against donald trump, i think that he'll respect it because he trusts her. he knows that the two of them are close. she is loyal to him, which gives her extra credibility to say no. and i think as a prosecutor, she doesn't get immunity like donald trump does. the supreme court decision doesn't protect anyone but the president, so she's the one who could face jail time in the future, like mike nifong, the duke lacrosse prosecutor. so it means a lot to her to keep her reputation intact as well as her future freedom. so i think ultimately she'll do the right thing. >> dave aronberg, thanks so much. it's good to see you. >> thank you chris, good to see you. >> up next. signs of progress in california as some winds finally die down for crews who are battling those massive wildfires. a report from the ground live next. >> want the fastest working glp one for half the price? roam now offers fda approved weight loss injections cheaper with results.
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california. now that high winds are dying down at long last. but the danger is still real. still present with the palisades fire. only 22% contained. and we now have a fuller sense of the destruction. after drones were able to get in the sky above the iconic pacific coast highway drive are just pacific coast highway, showing it charred on all sides. nearby, one family that believed they were out of the woods after their home made it through the worst of that fire, experienced total devastation this morning when a sudden mudslide. look at this. it literally split their house
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in two. for those families who just lost everything, resource centers are now fully stocked for what is sure to be a long recovery. one volunteer shared this video of boxes brimming with essential supplies, including piles and piles of diapers. nbc's ellison barber is on the ground in pasadena. ellison what is the long term recovery shaping up to look like? >> i mean, chris, it's so much to get your head around. 38,000 acres burned, over 38,000 acres burned just between the eaton and palisades fire. we had a chance on tuesday to fly over parts of malibu and the pacific palisades with cal fire. and you could just see thousands and thousands of homes, businesses, schools just completely gone. entire communities essentially wiped off the map in terms of long term recovery efforts. the los angeles city council, they did adopt more than 20 fire related measures this week. that
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includes motions to speed up the arrival of federal emergency funds, as well as assess post-fire potential for post-fire mudslides and establishing new safeguards against price gouging as well as evictions. la's mayor, karen bass she issued an executive order on monday that's aimed at expediting rebuilding efforts, requiring the city to finish project reviews within 30 days and waiving discretionary hearings under some of the zoning rules. then you have california governor gavin newsom saying that california has organized what he describes as a marshall plan to help l.a. rebuild faster than it would. his office is proposing in that $2.5 billion in additional funding for ongoing emergency response effort, and to jumpstart recovery efforts for l.a. the governor's office saying that funding would support recovery and cleanup, as well as additional wildfire preparedness and reopening schools shuttered by the fires. then, of course, there's the federal help. we've seen fema on the ground here, but cleanup and
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rebuilding it will take time. a lot of time. and so many residents right now, their biggest question is just when can we go home? when can we look at what is left of our communities? the la fire chief saying today that the repopulation of residents in areas where there were mandatory evacuation orders that will not occur for at least one more week, he said, and it will only be for areas that are deemed safe. so ultimately, he said, when i say one more week, that does not include the entire evacuation order area, saying that safety is first and foremost going to be the primary focus before they allow residents in. but a lot of people just desperate still to get home and get a sense of what it looks like so they can try to wrap their head around the possibility of this really long road to rebuild and recover. chris. >> yeah, no one can blame them for that. ellison barber, thank you for your reporting. the wildfires in los angeles were front and center on capitol hill today at the senate confirmation hearing for donald trump's pick to run the environmental protection agency. lee zeldin it
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came just days after the business insider reported on a financial disclosure that said zeldin made tens of thousands of dollars in recent years to write op eds criticizing climate policies. nbc's julie sirkin is on capitol hill for us today. and i know julie, multiple senators questioned him about that, his commitment to fighting climate change in the wake of these fires. what did he say? >> well, chris, i don't think any democrat expects lee zeldin epa under president trump to look anything like the biden administration's epa, they don't expect his epa to make climate change a focus, though, of course, especially coming off the heels of these wildfires. >> that was certainly a focus of the questioning today. i think, by and large, though, democrats are pretty satisfied with zeldin's replies. >> and i want you to take a listen to a little exchange he's had with the progressive senator bernie sanders on this. >> watch. >> do you agree with president elect trump that climate change is a hoax? >> i believe that climate change is real. >> some of us have used the word
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existential threat. >> what we're seeing in la right now is apocalyptic. >> would you describe climate change as an existential threat, meaning that there must be an urgency to get our act together, to get our act together, to address it? >> senator, we must, with urgency, be addressing these issues. >> look, i think that's notable, right? zeldin's tone here is markedly different than trump's tone. who called climate change a hoax? who vowed to kill any initiatives or progress that the biden administration has made in tackling some of these issues, like greenhouse gas emissions and all of these focus areas that democrats have made for themselves. >> i will tell you, though, there's still a question of whether he's qualified to lead an agency like the epa. this is a former congressman of new york. >> this is somebody who unsuccessfully ran for governor. >> if you ask zeldin about this, he would say he is because he
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amazon's jeff bezos, meta's mark zuckerberg, apple's tim cook and google's sundar pichai in place of honor that normally is dedicated to close friends and family. the new york times also reports that on inauguration night, zuckerberg will host a black tie party. that's according to a copy of an invitation that the paper reviewed. joining me now is nbc's garrett haake on capitol hill and nbc's savannah sellers. so, garrett, this seems to be exactly what joe biden warned about just last night. the rising influence of the rich, but clearly not something donald trump or his inaugural committee seems to be worried about. >> no, certainly not chris. i don't think that's how they'd characterize it at all. i think they would point to those people who you just mentioned, with the exception of the ceo of tiktok, argue that these are american job creators and leaders of key american businesses. amazon alone employs something like 1.5 million people all around the country. and the idea that the president of the united states shouldn't be close with the
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people who are leading the firms that essentially set america apart, is just not the way that they want to operate. i think the questions that the trump administration will have to continue to answer as they go forward will be about conflicts of interest, particularly with someone like elon musk, who has his finger in so many different pies that, you know, are part of the federal government. are these people close to the administration in a way that is good for the country, or are these people getting close to the administration in a way that is good for them and their bottom line and their investors? and that's something we're all going to have to watch quite closely together. >> and savannah, you're also reporting that the biden administration, you guys broke this story last night. the biden administration is now considering ways to keep tiktok available despite the ban. >> that's right. >> this is a major reversal and was pretty big news last night because, of course, he's the one who signed the law in the first place. it also means that it's putting biden and trump on parallel tracks in terms of what they want here, which is for the law to not go into effect on sunday. that ban would mean that
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170 million americans don't have the tiktok that they know at this point. >> tiktok is saying, for their part, going completely dark would be their last resort. right now. they want to make it such that content is still available, and essentially you no longer get updates. however, here's what's kind of murky about this. and also kind of fascinating is not implementing the law basically means that a president, whether that's still biden on sunday or whether it's trump on monday, is telling their department of justice, don't punish the companies what that says, what that means in the law is the service providers to tiktok. >> it's not tiktok itself, it's apple. >> if you've got tiktok in your app store, it's oracle. if you continue hosting data for tiktok, it's google for chrome because you can go to tiktok. >> com it would be the administration telling its department of justice do not actually fine those service providers. the law states that they would be fined $5,000 per user, and there's 170 million of them. if both departments of justice essentially say, we're not going to go after that, this law sits on a shelf, basically
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null and void. >> yeah. no teeth. garrett trump also just announced he is making jon voight, mel gibson and sylvester stallone special ambassadors to hollywood, which is a place that he disparaged in his announcement. what's happening there? >> well, practically speaking, chris, not much. i mean, these are three celebrities, three movie stars who have been publicly supportive of donald trump, who appear with some regularity at mar-a-lago and who have not been shy about expressing their support for him at a time where most of their industry has not. i think this is something of a reward for from donald trump to these men, and also a signal that he wants to kind of get back in the fight culturally here, including in hollywood, a place that has long been dominated by the other party. >> he says, these people will be my eyes and ears. okay. garrett hake, savannah sellers, thank you both. some sad news for movie fans. david lynch, the oscar nominated filmmaker known
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