with code tv. i could have told you that. i could have told her that. >> it is good to be back with you on this second hour of chris jansing reports at this hour. what's the deal? an israeli government official just told nbc news that the security cabinet will meet tomorrow to vote on the cease fire and hostage deal with hamas. what we know ahead of that meeting, as hostage families anxiously await

as their loved ones may finally come home and farewell to the chief. president biden's farewell ceremony as commander in chief of the armed forces now underway. a look at his final days in the white house. also, garland's goodbye any minute now, attorney general merrick garland will give his parting address at d.o.j. final days on the job as well. what he wants the department to remember as they head into trump's second term. plus, from florida attorney general to a new gig in the senate, ron desantis tapping ashley moody to fill marco rubio's seat in washington. our nbc news reporters are following all of the latest developments. we begin in arlington, virginia, where right now the armed forces are holding their farewell to their commander in chief, president biden. nbc's aaron gilchrist is following this for us from washington, dc. what are we expecting at today's ceremony? >> well, chris, this is, as you said, an opportunity for the

united states military to gather its leaders. the president of the united states, the commander in chief, along with the first lady, the vice president and second gentleman will be in attendance as well. and this is a ceremony where they thank their commander in chief. but also, you'll see and hear president biden thank the military for the work that they have done in protecting this country and countries, quite frankly, around the world. that ceremony, as we understand it, did get underway a few minutes ago at joint base myer-henderson hall. this is actually the home of the ceremonial units. the old guard is one that we know well in the d.c. area. those are the men and women who guard the tomb of the unknown soldier, but also who are really responsible for a lot of the ceremonial functions that we typically would see at an inauguration, for example, and that we're seeing here at fort myer-henderson hall as well. when the president speaks today, we anticipate that we'll hear him talk about the work that his administration has done to further support members of the military and their families, as well as veterans and their

families. the president has referenced the fact that there have been pay raises for members of the armed services, that there have been efforts to make sure that health care is provided in a more significant way to in particular to women and veterans. we've heard so much talk from this administration about toxic exposure that members of the military have had to deal with over the years, and how the biden administration has worked to expand access to health care for people who've had to deal with some of those issues. and so i anticipate that you'll hear that today in the president's remarks. at the same time as as i said, this ceremony will be a last chance for this commander in chief to review the troops, if you will, as they gather here in this auditorium. and it will be an opportunity for him to thank them all for their service. we heard the president reference that. thank you. in his remarks, his farewell address from the oval office last night. i believe we have a little bit of that we can play for you. >> let me close by stating my

gratitude to so many people, to the members of my administration, as well as public service and first responders across the country and around the world. thank you for stepping up to serve to our service members and your families. it's been the highest honor of my life to lead you as commander in chief. >> and so i believe we'll hear from if past is prolog, we'll hear from secretary of defense lloyd austin, as well as the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, c.q. brown. and i think, chris, it's worth mentioning, too, that the first lady is here. doctor biden has made the joining forces initiative really a central tenet of her time in the white house. this is an effort to work with military families and children in particular. she held an event earlier today at the white house, sort of concluding that program that she's been spearheading during this time. and when she was in the vice president's residence as well. >> aaron gilchrist, thank you so much. and any moment now, attorney general merrick garland

will give his farewell address. nbc's ryan riley is following that for us. we know ryan. he's expected to talk about the justice department's obligation to follow long established norms. that's kind of an echo of what we heard thematically from president biden last night. what else are we expecting? >> yeah, i mean, i think we'll see a little bit of a pep talk from merrick garland towards the justice department's employees here, because obviously, i think there's a lot of employees who feel as though they're about to enter into a dark era in the justice department's history, figuring out whether they can survive for the next four years. >> and i think that merrick garland is going to, you know, defend his record. i expect we might see him get emotional at points during during this speech, because, you know, this is someone who's dedicated his entire career to law enforcement starting back, you know, way, way back. but in the 1990s, when he led the charge in the oklahoma city bombing, and then, lo and behold, on the, you know, the very day or the day after he was named the attorney general nominee, when joe biden named him that pick. then he took hold

of the largest investigation in fbi and justice department history that has involved hundreds of january 6th defendants. and there's a big question right now what is going to happen to all that work? and i think he's going to cast justice department employees as patriots who have done their job and hung in there and upheld american democracy over these past four years, and probably give somewhat of a little bit of a pep talk and a little bit of encouragement to those employees who might be feeling discouraged right now. so i think we will see a pretty sweeping defense of the justice department's work over these past four years. chris. >> ryan, riley, thank you. some tense moments in the middle east today as israel delayed a vote on the gaza ceasefire and hostage deal. nbc's daniele hamamdjian is reporting from tel aviv's hostage square. what's going on, danielle? >> reporter well, an israeli official has now confirmed to nbc news that the israeli cabinet meeting that was expected to take place today is now going ahead tomorrow. this is the process to ratify the

cease fire deal. once that's done, the government will vote and it is expected to pass. once that's done, a list of palestinian prisoners will be made public. those are the prisoners who will be released in exchange for the hostages. the israeli public will have 48 hours to take their case to the supreme court to protest, to appeal their release. and once that is done, then, according to israeli media, it is all going to happen at 12:00 at noon on sunday. that's when the cease fire begins. that afternoon we will see the first hostages released. we're told israeli media reporting that three women will be released that day. after that, on day seven, another four hostages, and every week after that, for 42 days, the hostages will be released in exchange for the palestinian detainees. now, during this time, the idf will be withdrawing from densely populated areas. gazans will be be able to return to northern

gaza, and very critically, aid will be able to flow in medicine, humanitarian aid, food, badly needed. but we're not there yet. and many of the family members of the hostages say they do not believe this deal is real until they see the hostages back in israel. daniele hamamdjian, nbc news, tel aviv. >> danielle, thank you for that. and florida governor ron desantis just picked his attorney general to fill marco rubio's coveted senate seat. let me bring in nbc senior politics, national politics reporter matt dixon. what do we know about ashley moody? it's not a name that's probably familiar to many of our viewers. >> chris. well, the top line is she said she's going to be a vote for the america first agenda. so she's going to washington to be a trump vote. >> and that was a key messaging today when they rolled her out. she's been attorney general here in florida since 2018. she won her first race in her second reelection race overwhelmingly.

she was very popular here. >> and during her time as attorney general, she's really sort of been ron desantis legal sort of attack dog. >> the offices are technically separate, unlike the federal government. >> the attorney general here in florida is elected, but she has taken on the federal government and the biden administration on things like immigration, things like the covid issues, things like transgender issues. >> so she has really, really sort of made a name for herself here, is going after the biden administration, which has endeared her to governor desantis and really made her kind of a top ally of his. >> there had been several names floated over the past six weeks or so, but ashley moody had long been sort of seen as the favorite. she doesn't necessarily speak the language of maga as fluently as some other trump supporters. she is a trump supporter, but i would anticipate seeing her trying to more endear herself to president trump and sort of get into that mold now that she's going to the senate. so i would anticipate, even though she's not a

household name nationally, she is going to attempt to do that moving forward. and there's a big reason for that. she will be an incumbent when she has to run in 2026. but there are already republicans lining up to run against her, so she's likely going to have a republican primary. >> matt dixon, thank you. and coming up in 90s, what the future of congressional power looks like after a republican congressman showed a backbone and got put on the back bench. and got put on the back bench. that's the best moments deserve the best eggs. especially when they're eggland's best. taste so deliciously fresh. with better nutrition, too. we love our eggs any style. as long as they're the best. eggland's best. >> try rye's mushroom coffee with six functional mushrooms with six functional mushrooms that heal your gut, i our floors don't stay clean very long. that's why i love my swiffer wet.

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you'll feel all better. >> new questions today about what happens if a republican shows some independence from donald trump. speaker mike johnson has removed the top member of the house intelligence committee, a critical piece of our national security apparatus. and congressman mike turner tells cbs that johnson cited concerns from mar-a-lago, that threat of what happens if there isn't total allegiance to trump has become a centerpiece of democrats questioning. during confirmation hearings across the hill. >> president elect trump issues a directive or order to you or to the fbi director that is outside the boundaries of ethics or law. what will you do? >> senator, i will never speak on a hypothetical, especially one saying that the president would do something illegal. >> would you consider an individual's personal political preferences to include loyalty to the president in making a

decision to hire, fire, or promote an individual? >> no. >> if the president elect were to propose a policy that you believe will increase prices, would you advise against it? >> i would advise i would speak to president trump about it. it is his decision. >> let's bring in nbc news chief capitol hill correspondent ryan nobles and nbc news white house correspondent vaughn hillyard, who has been covering the trump transition. eugene robinson is a washington post columnist and msnbc political analyst. okay, ryan, have we heard from speaker johnson about his decision to replace mike turner on intel? >> we have, as a matter of fact, chris. and he's been very insistent that this was his decision and his decision alone, and that it involved no influence whatsoever from the president elect or his advisers at mar-a-lago. listen to what johnson told us earlier today. >> it's a new congress. >> we're just need fresh horses. and in some of these places

where trump has anything to do, urge you to not this is this is not a president trump decision. >> this is a house decision. >> and this is no slight whatsoever to our our outgoing chairman. >> he did a great job. >> but we just the intelligence community and everything related to gypsy, it needs a fresh start. and that's what this is about nothing else. >> and we know that chairman turner or former chairman turner has a bit of a different view about it. he seems concerned about the way that this decision process was made. and there is every reason to believe that donald trump wouldn't want someone like mike turner as the chair of the intel committee. he was very pro funding for ukraine. he has a different foreign policy worldview than donald trump may have. and so that raises some questions as to just how much influence the current or the incoming president may have had in this decision making process, especially because mike johnson remains close to donald trump.

and there's every reason to believe that mike johnson is still the speaker, because donald trump came in and endorsed him right before the speaker vote, when there were several skeptical republicans wanting to cast a ballot for the speaker. so this is something that we're going to continue to watch. and then the other part of this that we still don't know yet, chris, is who johnson will ultimately pick to take mike turner's job. will that be someone who is thought of as a loyalist to donald trump, especially in a committee that's as important as the intel committee and also a committee that, despite all of the political polarization over the past eight years, has had demonstrated a level of bipartisanship at different points. there's been some scuffles here and there, especially throughout the course of the russia investigation. but, you know, at least during the period of time where ukraine was involved, demonstrated a great degree of bipartisanship. >> so, vaughn, let's go specifically into some of the details of where mike turner and donald trump are not on the same page. i mean, turner did vote to certify joe biden's 2020 election victory. he pushed back hard against trump's claims that

haitian immigrants were eating pets in springfield, ohio. some people may have forgotten that one. notably, though, he has been a leading proponent for ukraine funding. so i wonder what you're hearing from trump world about this. >> we're actually hearing very little, chris, from trump world and the president elect himself there. >> but i think it's important when you're looking at the role that mike turner would play as chair of the intel committee and understanding that he would work directly with this trump administration, particularly in the months ahead, in which there is a high likelihood that there is going to be a potential disagreements over intelligence that is gathered by the united states, particularly when it comes to russia. >> it was mike turner. >> let's be very clear, just this last spring, who openly suggested that some members of his own party were uttering russian propaganda on the house floor, suggesting that the conversation over the justification that russia has

used for its invasion of ukraine in 2022 was precipitated around this idea that nato was going to add ukraine as a member nation, and that that justified their attack on ukraine. let's be very clear. there were no steps that were being taken in real time at the time of the invasion. and yet it was donald trump just ten days ago at that mar-a-lago press conference who suggested that that was in fact the case and that he could understand the emotions around russia and for their decision to invade. and it was sergey lavrov, the foreign minister of russia just days ago, who publicly lauded donald trump, the president elect, for those statements. >> it was mike turner again this last spring who was very clear when he said that, quote, members of congress today who still incorrectly say that this conflict between russia and ukraine is over nato, which of course it is not. >> this is an authoritarian versus democracy battle. and it was those statements last spring that undoubtedly have continued

to ring down in mar-a-lago at this present time. >> eugene, the top democrat on the intel committee, congressman jim himes, put out a statement and said, among other things, the removal of chairman turner makes our nation less secure and is a terrible portent for what's to come. the constitution demands that congress function as a check and balance to the executive branch, not cater to its demands, and nbc news has reported that lawmakers in both parties were actually stunned at johnson's decision. given how well respected turner is on both sides of the aisle. so what do you think this tells us about the future and about trump's power? just days ahead of his inauguration? >> it doesn't tell us anything good about the future. mike turner was respected on both sides of the aisle. he happened to have a rather more traditional view of our foreign policy and of russian aggression than then. president elect trump

has clearly. and so president donald trump did not have to tell speaker johnson to do this, right. speaker johnson would would know that that trump does not want to have someone like mike turner heading the intelligence committee, speaking his mind, being openly critical, disagreeing with foreign policy steps that that the president might take. and so he can he gets rid of mike turner. it it's something he can do. you know, laterally really. and this is as opposed to other things that donald trump will want the house to do that speaker johnson can't do by himself, that he can't do with his fractious republican caucus and that he he frankly needs, needs help from democrats to do basic things, passing a

budget. just even getting organized. and so this is a freebie he can give to donald trump. and maybe, you know, if you feed the beast and maybe it will be satisfied for a while. >> well, yeah. the question is for how long? i guess because we know, gene, during trump's first term, we saw several high profile examples. cabinet secretaries, for example, who defied them, defied him and found themselves out of a job. i'm thinking of, like jeff sessions, right? the attorney general, defense secretary mark esper. so do you think the ouster of turner sends a message to other republicans? and will they listen to that message? >> it definitely sends a message. other republicans will have to check their own consciences. and we'll have to wait for events and see what they do. you know, this this parade of cabinet nominees, pam

bondi saying there's not going to be an enemies list. et cetera. they're saying the right things in these hearings. but what will they really do if they are in fact pressed by trump to agree to a policy or to take an action that they know is wrong, that they know is counter to either either law or or propriety or is just wrong. and yet to see, you know, jeff sessions followed his conscience in many instances and he and he was out. and i think if these cabinet officials and republicans in congress follow their consciences, i think there will be consequences for them as well. >> so meantime, vaughn, nbc news is reporting that the fake ramaswamy is emerging as a surprise prospect to fill j.d. vance's old senate seat. how involved is donald trump in

pushing ramaswamy's name and why him? >> right. i actually just got off the phone before we came on air, chris, with somebody who was telling me that effectively, donald trump is wholly responsible for vivek ramaswamy potentially being the next u.s. senator out of ohio to replace jd vance. it's going to be ultimately a decision of governor dewine, who's lieutenant governor, has is also a potential senate consideration yet would like to run for governor. vivek ramaswamy, actually several months ago took his name out of the running to be j.d. vance's appointment because he wanted to run for governor, though. so the source was telling me that, of course, vivek ramaswamy has been helping lead this d.o.j. effort of government efficiency to find places where they can cut and restructure the executive branch of the federal government. and it was suggested to me that inside of the senate, he would more effectively on the outset of conversations around like the continuing resolution that we saw play out just before the holidays, instead of elon musk and donald trump stepping in and

going on x and putting out a social media post saying they're not behind this, and then everybody running to try to fix the continuing resolution or the budget on the back end of it. essentially, if they have vivek ramaswamy in the congress in real time, able to actively try to do doge from inside of the halls of the capitol while working in conjunction with russ vote over at the office of office of management and budget, then they would potentially be able to more effectively have doge happen in real time. and that is why for donald trump specifically having vivek ramaswamy in that u.s. senate capacity of such keen interest, ryan nobles, vaughn hillyard and eugene robinson, thank you so much, gentlemen. >> appreciate it. and up next on chris jansing reports for children in los angeles. the fires didn't just burn their homes. they destroyed in some cases, really the only lives they knew. we'll speak with one of the county leaders who is creating a space for kids to get back to some semblance of normalcy. that's next on msnbc.

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bring in the director of the county of los angeles department of parks and recreation, norma garcia gonzalez. thank you so much, norma. so what are kids doing? what do they expect from a day at this camp? >> well, i'll tell you, i was there greeting children the first day. and children were scared, were nervous. >> there were a lot of tears. >> and then within about a couple of hours, it was beautiful chaos, the joy, the sounds of laughter, children playing and what they can expect is nurturing and caring. l.a. county park staff, mental health staff, many partners which are providing lots of program childn in this really difficult time. >> i read that you had 600 kids and come to one of your camp locations this week. i wonder what you're hearing both from the kids, but also their parents. >> what we're hearing from parents is they need a little bit of relief. many of our

parents have lost their homes that have been displaced, and they're figuring out fema. they're figuring out where they're going to live. they're figuring out the next day. and so making sure that their children have a supportive and nurturing environment with caring adults so that they can figure out their next step, is what's really important for parents. >> there are a lot of hugs to our staff, a lot of gratitude, and a lot of community building because parents need the support. in addition to children also needing our camps are many of them folks who who are from schools that were together. >> i was just imagining maybe some reunions of kids who normally would have seen each other every day in class and now aren't. >> what's so great about this community of altadena that parents have texted the schools have gotten out the information, schools are still out. and so parents who have been relocated to other parts of the county are even driving long distances so that their children can be

together with their peers. like i mentioned, they've lost their neighborhoods. their parks have burned down. and so that social connection is part of the healing for children and families. >> there are so many people out there who, you know, their hearts go out to these kids. so is there something that you can tell people they can do to help? >> absolutely. first, i want to make sure that we have set up a donation site so they can email l.a. county park staff care camps every day. parents are telling us what they need most for their youth. today we are having a drive for clothes and even for electronics. parents left with nothing in there, and so making sure that children have the support, the clothing, the electronics, the toys is really important so they can go to care camps@parks.la county.gov if they'd like to support and we are touching base with everyone that reaches out to support norma garcia

gonzalez. >> what a fantastic program and thank you so much for telling us about it. we appreciate it. i also want to bring in public health analyst doctor irwin redlener, founding director at the national center for disaster preparedness. always good to see you, irwin. i mean, for kids who may have lost schools, they lost their homes, places that were critical to their everyday routines. how do you go about trying to restore some sense of normalcy? and can a camp like this help with that? >> yeah, absolutely. >> chris and i was really happy to hear norma talk about that program, and it is really important to support children in the immediate aftermath of a massive disaster like this. >> and there's a couple of points that we've learned from disasters in the past, including children who are being displaced now in ukraine, for example, that this disruption, acute disruption because of the fear of violence and danger all around them, can have not only

short term impact on children, but can affect them in the long run as well. >> so staying in touch with these kids, trying to reestablish a sense of normalcy as soon as we can is absolutely critical. >> but it's doable. >> we just have to pay attention to what those needs are and make sure that the children who are not necessarily responding so well to things like those wonderful camps, that they they are followed and may need professional help as well. this is a whole family impact from this really terrible disaster in los angeles now. >> so how do parents and frankly, parents who are anxious and dealing with their own trauma, right, even begin to talk to kids about this because many of these children will have experienced the fear of, you know, an evacuation, having to get out, in some cases running for their lives. >> yeah, absolutely. >> and this is look, i think the

advice for parents right now is this, first of all, stay close to your children, sit next to them, establish routines or reestablish routines for mealtime and bedtime as soon as you can. even if you're in a temporary shelter. and the other thing is, i would really try as a parent to reduce or eliminate television watching. >> i hate to say this on television, but watching scenes of the fire repeated over and over again is not necessarily a good idea for children. >> and the other thing is that the way we talk to children about disasters varies according to the age and the personality of a kid. so you know what you tell a four year old and how you reassure a four year old or a six year old is different than how we talk to and reassure a teenager, for example. so be available. try to support your kids as possible. get them back

to some semblance of normalcy and help them get through this crisis. even though we totally recognize that the parents are just as traumatized, having lost so much in these fires in la. >> yeah, and have so many big decisions to make. let me give you one example that i bring, courtesy of the washington post. irwin, who talked to an 11 year old girl. her name is emery. she lost both her home and her elementary school in the fires and started a new school just yesterday. and here's what she told the post. quote, it doesn't feel the same. our school was next to the ocean, but i'm glad i can see my friends again. she told her friend that she hadn't done her homework because her backpack, which she thought was fireproof, had burned. she hoped that was okay. you know, for kids, their worries and fears might be different than their parents or other adults in their lives. but those fears are real. like, am i going to get in

trouble? my homework was in that backpack. so how do you talk to kids to allow them to get those fears out, to get those emotions out? >> sure. well, well, first of all, chris, you know, acknowledging that the loss has been horrendous and understanding that there may be things that children are missing that adults might not think about, like in that case of a child's backpack, or maybe their favorite stuffed animal or some other particular, even small item that was lost, or small memory of something important to them that was that was destroyed in the fire. so allowing kids the space psychologically to talk about what's been bothering them and then reassuring them that everything is replaceable. and the other thing, unfortunately, is that there's going to be some children who may have lost a loved one or a loved pet family pet that will

cause a serious amount of grieving for children in the long haul. and in those cases, it may not be so easy for a parent to reassure and manage grieving in their children. in which case, you know, it's really important that they seek seek appropriate professional help early on. >> let me ask you about parents grieving, because i know you have a lot of experience with this, but but also, i'm sure there must be a ton of research on it. do your show your kids your own emotion. is it okay to cry in front of them, or is it better to be stoic, to be strong, to at least present a face of, we're going to get through this? how do you balance those things as a parent? >> yeah, that's a great question. so here's here's the advice for parents about that. every parent, every human that was involved in this fire is going to be traumatized 21 degrees or another. it is

perfectly fine for children to see an appropriate emotional response to a loss like this. but on the other hand, it's also important for parents not to actually panic. you can be grieving and mourning and upset without panicking. children need to see a level of stability in their caretakers, specifically their parents. at a time of tragedy like this. so for parents who have the appropriate and normal reactions to this major disaster, yes, you can be upset. you can share it with your children. they'll be upset too, but they need to see if possible you being in control and in control and ready to establish some level of normalcy. that's why even if you're in a shelter situation or temporary residence, get going and reestablish the regular meal time, regular bedtime and

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giuliani owned and had been ordered in the course of this proceeding to turn over to the women, including his new york apartment and yankees memorabilia, bank accounts, things of that nature. >> the second thing that we know is that rudy giuliani has put out a statement in his lawyer, said this in court that this settlement allows him to retain his personal property as well as both of his apartments, and that is not being disputed by the women themselves, who have put out a statement saying that they have agreed to a settlement that allows mr. giuliani to retain his property in exchange for a settlement. >> that must mean that the settlement here is one of a monetary nature. >> but given that giuliani tried to file for bankruptcy last year, it's unclear to me how much money they've settled for and more importantly, where that money is coming from. >> well, he said he didn't even have money for a cab. so, i mean, all right, so what does this mean for ruby freeman and shaye moss? that's that's the bottom line here. these women's lives have been upended. and that's an understatement. >> that's correct. and my guess is that ruby freeman and shamos

agreed to a reduction in the total value of the settlement. >> remember, they are owed $146 million by rudy giuliani, but an amount that he has on appeal right now. they may have agreed to get a monetary settlement of some fraction of that in order for it to be over completely and fully, and to be compensated for the harm that giuliani's defamatory statements did to their lives. ruby freeman, as you remember, testified before the january 6th committee, she can no longer go out in public. she was the person who took great joy in socializing. she was known in her community as lady ruby, she said. now she keeps the blinds drawn. they've had death threats against them. as a result of the allegations that giuliani made against them, where he said they were involved in throwing the georgia election for joe biden unlawfully and unfairly. now they get some money to move on and rebuild their lives. chris. >> so we know that rudy giuliani has been in and out of court over just the last couple of weeks for hearings connected to them. what can you tell us about those? >> well, one of the proceedings that he's been in and out of court for is a contempt

proceeding in new york. the judge in the new york case has not decided what the penalty was going to be for that contempt through this settlement. it appears that that contempt proceeding is wiped clean. he won't be punished for the contempt in at least the new york court. but there's also a separate contempt proceeding in d.c, because rudy had agreed in writing that he wouldn't further defame the women. last week, a judge in the d.c. federal court, judge beryl howell, entered a complicated order that basically says for a period of time that rudy doesn't comply with her order. he'll owe the women $200 per day. we'll have to see whether that will stick to or whether that's part of this global settlement that ruby freeman and shay moss have reached with rudy giuliani. >> so this morning and going really into the afternoon, we talked about high drama. it was that, where's rudy giuliani? he was supposed to be in court. clearly, they were working out the final details one would expect of this this agreement. yeah. >> lisa rubin, never a dull moment, chris. >> never a dull moment. after the break, we will go live to altadena, where even as fire

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restoring power in the area. but obviously there's still a lot of work to do. now, 55% containment on this fire, the eaton fire that is massive. that is huge for crews, especially with the window that we're now in. red flag winds are dead. they will not revive maybe until monday, maybe even tuesday. that will give firefighters a significant amount of time. but neighbors are frustrated. residents really want to come back to see what's left of their community, what's left of their home. unfortunately, we just got a press update not too long ago, maybe an hour and a half ago or so, to say that it will be at least another week before we can even entertain the idea of repopulation. there's just too much to do. firstly, the act of firefight at both fires there is still smoldering. we saw it this morning on a scene like this where you will see a little hotspot pop up that's dangerous for folks. there's also power lines down. as you mentioned, the epa now wants to work the scene going obviously sort of quadrant by quadrant to clear out any hazardous materials. all

of this has to be done before they can sort of unveil these massive evacuation zones that, you know, maybe about 100,000 people are under right now. and that's led to some frustration, obviously, for that frustration, the federal government has centers that they set up to help people with documents. there's the one time payment. there's obviously working with fema who is now on the ground as well. but until firefighters can do the major operation of building enough containment and then clearing out these zones, it's going to be a minute before people are allowed back. and unfortunately, that heartbreak sort of lingers here as they're still finding more people in the rubble. >> chris, it is still shocking to see the scene behind you, even though we've been looking at scenes just like that for more than a week now. steve patterson, thank you for your reporting. and that is going to do it for us this hour. but we have a quick programing note before we go tonight. president joe biden sits down exclusively with lawrence o'donnell for his final oval office interview of the presidency. watch the last word tonight, 10 p.m. eastern,

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