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dictionary, an oligarchy is a government in which a small group of exercises control, especially for corrupt and selfish purposes. the daily beast reports that google searches for the word skyrocketed after president biden delivered this warning. during his farewell address. >> an oligarchy is taking shape in america of extreme wealth, power and influence that literally threatens our entire democracy, our basic rights and freedoms, and a fair shot for everyone to get ahead. >> meanwhile, major tech corporations boosted their donations to donald trump's inaugural fund in recent weeks, and the world's three richest men tech billionaires elon musk, jeff bezos and mark zuckerberg are all expected to attend the inauguration. joining us now is msnbc political analyst juanita tolliver. she's the author of the new book, a more perfect party the night shirley chisholm

and diahann carroll reshaped politics, and msnbc political analyst and new york times investigative reporter susanne craig, welcome to you both. >> welcome, welcome, welcome. we put the books on the table, by the way. we just. okay, suzanne, you get us suzanne, you get a new book. we will put your book on the table as well. okay. we love people's books. >> i feel left out here. come on. >> we got you. we got you. okay. thank you, thank you. i want to know. hands raised. this is what they do in their debates. they get people in trouble. raise your hand if you are surprised that joe biden called out all of the oligarchs in his speech. and the ultra rich and the technical techno industrial complex in his final oval office address, because i was and i was frankly happy to hear it, him naming the thing. now, i don't think most people know what oligarchy means. and so we have to be very specific. but this is a, a threat. i think, suzanne. and

but i don't know if the american people are wrapping their minds around it in the way that you would if there was like, you know, a bomb outside, right? or. some something, something that they can feel, see and touch that they think of as danger. >> well, you know, i'm glad you guys defined it at the top because i think when people hear the word, they think of russia, they think of a bond movie or something, right? >> i mean, they don't a lot of people don't really understand what it is. and the definition is somebody of great wealth who has huge political influence. and i think that's what we are seeing right in front of us. and i don't think people really do have a good grasp on. i don't think that that's what they voted for. and we're seeing it unfold in real time. and it's really since the election, you've seen these tech guys, they've come down to mar-a-lago to bend the knee. they are giving huge amounts of money at this point to the inauguration. they're going to be on the dais. and these are people who have a

lot to gain by doing this. and also if they don't cozy up, there's, you know, potential of retribution. there's a lot going on. but, you know, these are men who have their companies, have contracts with the government. you know, they some of them are under investigation by the government. i mean, that could be easy. there's a lot going on when we see these guys coming to trump and opening up their wallets and writing checks. >> can i just add one more thing to that, though? because in addition to writing the checks, they control things that people in this country and across the world use. and that is the rub. and hourly, how we consume news, what access we have to information, also how we shop online. right. that is something that affects every single person. and i appreciate president biden emphasizing that the threat is not confined to donald trump. it's the people he surrounds himself with that have a vested interest. as suzanne said, in policy, specifically tax policy, which we know trump is fixated on, and trade policy.

this is all an effort to coordinately line their pockets, which we know donald trump is drawn to. he's drawn to power. he's drawn to control, he's drawn to money. and that's what this represents. >> you know, also they also, i think importantly, control in some cases, not just the news we consume, but exactly how we see it because they control the outcomes. >> so i think this entire point was driven home by senator bernie sanders. in exchange, he had with trump's treasury secretary pick. take a listen. >> i'm just asking you, with so few people have so much wealth and power, but do you think that that is an oligarchic form of society? >> senator? i think it depends on the ability to move up and down the income. >> no, that's not really the answer. i mean, even if you had that mobility, no matter who those individuals might be. >> i think, michael, it is critical for democrats to be able to articulate what it is

that this means for average american people, right? it's not it's not about the fact that these guys are wealthy. it's about the amount of control and influence that they have and what that means for all of us. >> well, it is, but look, they couldn't they couldn't communicate the fact that they had an infrastructure. michael. i past the country, they couldn't communicate what they did on inflation. so i damn sure know they're not going to be able to communicate and define a word that people have to rush to, you know, to google to find out what it is. but i think what they can illustrate is hardened examples of everything we're talking about, suzanne. and that is what the new york times is reporting. elon musk expected to use office space in the white house complex. the spacex anticipated for musk. mr. musk use is in the eisenhower executive office building, which

is adjacent to the white house. the location would allow mr. musk, who owns companies with billions of dollars in contracts, to your very point with the federal government to continue to have significant access to president elect donald j. trump when he takes office this month. so to bernie sanders, question to his question. yes, this is an example of the very thing in front of us that this oligarchy is being built in front of us. it is now well positioned on the white house complex, right literally next door to the white house. and elon musk will have access every day in and out of that complex, given the billions of dollars of contracts that he has running doge, not examining his own contracts, but doing the bidding of donald trump and himself, what are we to make of this, suzanne? how how do you explain that to the american people? >> well, that's a big question.

>> you know, you just it's just another level of access. i mean, when you think about where he is going to be positioned, i mean, unfettered access. he is the rich on most lists in america. he's the richest man in america since the election. you know, his his net worth has only gone up. and now all these other people have come to the forefront in one way or another. not only is he going to have that office, they are all going to be on the dias on monday. all of many of the tech billionaires are people in the top on those top lists. and then you just think of trump himself. you know, the other piece of this is, you know, how he's going to enrich himself. and i think a lot about that. and, you know, with my colleague russ buettner, we've written a book on his wealth and it just sort of seems quaint. russ. russ always used to say when we were writing the book, you know, trump one of the ways that, you know, just there's so many potential ways to get him money. and, you know,

we spend so much time thinking about it and fretting about it. but one easy way, you know, you know, even now, just book a hotel, you know, room, a room of hotel suites. and it's, you know, when one of his resorts and they don't show up to get him money and, and now you sort of look at all the ways that people can get him money, and it's just seemingly like it's increased. like that idea is almost quaint compared to now with all these licensing deals that he has that he's doing, you know, live. the saudis are hosting golf tournaments at his at his golf courses. there's so many ways seemingly now to be able to get him money as a piece of this discussion just about, you know, billionaire class. >> let's can we pull up the numbers of what amazon, google and microsoft have given in past, in past inaugurations in past years? because i think it helps sort of give you some context of, of where you're seeing huge jumps. so for example, in 2017 and 2021, they either wasn't listed or they

didn't give in 2025, they, they give now $1 million to trump. i want you to talk about those numbers, but also in the context of your book, want you to talk about how shirley chisholm saw all of this. oh, 100%. she understood that democrats needed to radically first reimagine their own party so that then they could radically reimagine this nation, reimagine this nation around class as a unifying component. >> because one of the things that she she was well ahead of her time on was getting corporate money out of politics. she proposed this in the 70s. no one listened. they rejected the messenger. and here we are today. i think the real issue when it comes to class, though, is that democrats have to understand the frame of they not like us. listen to kendrick paint that picture for the american public, because literally any of these billionaires saying like, oh, you can have what i have. absolutely not. they're not worried about eggs. they probably haven't been grocery shopping in decades. they aren't worried about insurance claims being denied. they're not

worried about keeping a roof over their head or rebuilding their homes that were lost to a wildfire. connecting to the people, listening to their needs, understanding how everyone should be heard. that was the core of shirley chisholm's work, and that's why her policy ideas were so ahead of their time. poverty alleviation work like a basic family income. she proposed again in the 60s and 70s localities are just now testing this out. this is a defining opportunity for democrats to pick up that mantle and make sure they are connecting with the people in tangible ways and defining, defining these billionaires as people who have nothing in touch with your reality. >> my favorite part of a more perfect party is it begins with a literal party with diahann carroll shirley chisholm. >> love it. >> so cinematic. congratulations again. the book is a more perfect party. it is new. it is out now. go pick up your copy. suzanne craig, it is always wonderful to see you. thank you. and next, the man who says he would be the first to sue if donald trump does, in fact come donald trump does, in fact come after states on

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talking about. so you don't want to take the test. and the test is the job, and you failed already. i don't understand. >> well, i mean, i would just note that unlike others, pam bondi has been an attorney general before, so she is actually very i think her job she is she could be very dangerous. and for communities such as people who adhere to the rule of law, folks who believe in, you know, having folks that need to stand up to donald trump because pam bondi actually knows the rules and the contours of the law. when you know what's happening, you can bend it towards your will. i there's birthright citizenship. there is what is happening. as you know, we have all said on day one, donald trump has promised it, and you should believe it. juanita, i am, i am i am wondering if democratic officials across the country are truly prepared for what is happening, right? it's not a surprise to me that the new york times is reporting chicago is

first on the list, right? the they thrown out these things over the course of different of months. right. and so what are municipalities doing to gird themselves? i think the first and foremost thing that we're seeing, not just from state and local leaders, but also from advocates on the ground, is educating people in their local communities, educating teachers that, yes, you cannot disclose a student's documentation status or their immigration status. yes, there are farm workers who can delegate rights to someone else to be able to take care of their children, should they be deported, or for their children to be able to travel internationally if that's something they're faced with. i think the reality here is that what you said in the intro, alicia, is important. when people were like, oh, it's hyperbole. trump doesn't mean mass deportations on day one, even though republicans at the convention were waving mass deportation signs. yes, they said, now take them at their word. and with that in mind, it is going to be on state and local officials and how they respond to this. and one example

that comes to mind, in addition to chicago, is new york city. eric adams was just down in mar-a-lago two days ago. he and i will be surprised if immigration raids did not come up. and i think people are right to be alarmed. across the country. this is not a red state thing or a blue state thing. i do think the response will be different in new york state versus somewhere like texas, which has gone toe to toe repeatedly in courts with the biden administration over some of the tactics they were using at the border buoys in the waters, barbed wire. and that is something that we can expect, maybe a more extreme response in red states. but blue states are not safe in this situation at all. i always say f afo mess around. oh, come on ma f o mess around and find out. >> i know look the i think the bottom line for me is on on this immigration issue is this has been told to us now for a long time, and it still amazes me

that people run around and act and pretend like what we're what we're going to see isn't going to happen. there will be well over 150 close to 200 executive orders that will be executed on monday. and you mean to tell me that immigration is not part of part and parcel of those of those orders that that the you know, from what i'm hearing, one of those orders called for the immediate shutdown of the border, right. one of those orders calls for the use of our our military to enforce the shutdown of that border. and what is stunning to me is that level of questioning was not put on pam bondi. and the moment, to me, what made the hearing a real sort of slack jawed, whacked out moment was the exchange with, with, you know, the senators

around donald trump in his in his election results, you know, she and ted cruz having this, finishing each other's sentences moment where they're talking about, you know, the election. and she's like, oh yes, 77 million people. you know, it's like really i mean, i know you're concerned about the one and not the 330 million. so this is i don't know, i think you said it right, simone. you know, going to find out. y'all going to find out a whole lot of stuff and people going to be running around looking for help for people who aren't there. and that's going to be a big problem. >> you want to talk about another hearing is it. no, no. >> yes. >> he apparently doesn't know what her job is. maybe talk about it because the people literally watching this. so homeland security is now being shifted under trump's border czar thomas homan, who has committed to possibilities of, hey, if these are families with mixed immigration status, we can send everybody back. we can

deport everybody. we can reopen those detention centers, we can lift bars on ice raids at places like schools and churches that were protected spaces. that is alarming. and the fact that kristi noem sat up there and couldn't answer a single question about what her responsibilities are in this role, or limited her scope of work exclusively to immigration was deeply alarming for the future of this country. kristi noem is supposed to have oversight of our immigration and whatnot. that is her purview. if she is confirmed as dhs secretary, tim homan is a made up role. he has a made up job that donald trump gave him. and i think it's to skirt oversight. he's a staffer. >> he's a white house staffer and hasn't been a white house staffer. >> let me tell you, you ain't really in charge of nothing, but you are not subject to oversigh, because now the white house can say they can say, oh, you know, executive privilege or this is this is the way to skirt oversight. and that did come out

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california. her constituents include the residents of altadena, a community severely impacted by the wildfires. >> congresswoman, welcome. 27 dead. possibly more to come. unfortunately, 12,000 homes burned. i'd like you to listen to an exchange between congressman padilla and energy secretary chris trump's pick for energy secretary, chris wright. with senator padilla. you've written that the hype over wildfires is just hype to justify more impoverishment from bad government policies. end quote. given the devastation that we're currently experiencing in los angeles, do you still believe that wildfires are just hype? >> i sir, it is with great sorrow and fear that i watch

what's happening in your city of la. >> do you think it's just hype or not? >> climate change is a real and global phenomenon. >> is it hype or not? >> i stand by my past comments. >> so you believe it's hype? you know, congresswoman, how how do we how do we solve a problem when you have individuals who come to that part problem with views that are not aligned with solution, but with the politics of one man? >> well, i invite this republican to come to my district and look, these victims in the eye when he says that wildfires are hype. i had thousands of my residents flee the area with nothing on their

back, and 8700 structures were destroyed. it all happened within a day. these wildfires were during a time when we had the santa ana winds, which blew 80 to 100mph. >> there were embers that were flying 2 to 3 miles, and that's how the wildfire spread. >> this is real. this is not a hype. and 16 lives in my district were taken from us. these are things that we must be able to address. and in fact, we have to have disaster aid for these areas. never in our history has the federal government placed conditions on emergency, disaster, and on our own citizens. and yet there are

republicans such as president elect trump and speaker johnson that have suggested this. it's truly unprecedented. and let me say that we should be able to provide disaster aid for these victims, just like we did just in december. we're talking about four weeks ago for the victims of hurricanes milton and helene from georgia, the carolinas and tennessee. >> congresswoman, you sent a letter on monday to incoming president trump to speaker johnson asking them to visit this, these devastated communities, because it is fundamentally different should be when you see the devastation with your own eyes. have you heard from either of them? >> we have not heard from them, no. >> so we will continue to press on this. and in fact, i am just thankful for my california colleagues who have spoken on

the floor and in public on the need for this. i can tell you that our democratic leadership is very strong on this issue, that this disaster aid should not come with conditions, these wildfires, and really any disaster does not have a political affiliation, nor does it have a political party. and in all my years in congress, i have always voted for disaster aid. whether the state is red or blue. people are devastated right now. everything that they have has been taken from them. their home has been reduced to rubble, and this one is particularly devastating because when they left, there was nothing to come back to. no memento, nothing at all. burned in the fire and all their memories just went up in flames. but now we get to the point of recovery. and that's what's paramount.

>> the point about recovery is so important, congresswoman. and continuing to center the people at the heart of this. you know, one of the communities you represent, altadena folks, may not realize that they do not have a they don't have a local city council. there's not a mayor of altadena. they are an incorporated township. and so they are, you know, the supervisors, if you will, if you will the l.a. county board of supervisors, that is really kind of their governing body. but but you are really the advocate for this community that has been devastated. and this is a working class community. i know people here in los angeles and the palisades and they think celebrities. but altadena. the folks in that community are people in our own, like people in our own neighborhoods who have who get up every single day, who have worked hard for what they have. and now it is gone. talk about the people in that community. >> well, thank you for bringing that up. altadena is a very, very special place. we have many

individuals who came there, loved the fact that it was in a area close to the mountains, and they started their lives there. they are very creative. they are very community minded. let me also say that there's a very large black population. they came here from the jim crow south in the 1900s, in the early 1900s, and altadena was a place where they were not redlined, where they could actually afford a home and build a community. so we have people who've lived there for 20, 30 years, and they have been so active there. but yes, it's a very working class community that love to work for one another and help one another. >> congresswoman, could you speak to there's been a lot of conversation about insurance,

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non renewals and they did it in a way in which they said, well, you have to do. and they listed many conditions. clear this tree, take off this particular structure that you have. and so it made it unaffordable. and so californians had no choice but to either go with no insurance or else go on the california fair plan, which is more expensive and provides less insurance. that's why this bill that has been put forth is so important, because we have to shine a light on this, but also we cannot have a situation where californians cannot even get the insurance that they need in order to protect themselves. >> all right. congresswoman judy chu of california, thank you so much for being with us. monday's inauguration will coincide with another important day. martin luther king, jr. day. looking

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and legacy of doctor martin luther king jr. bernice king, the daughter of the late civil rights leader, says americans need to pay attention to trump's words during his swearing in, while also celebrating her father's birthday, arguing, quote, this is not the time for ignorance, bernice. bernice king joins us now. she is the ceo of the martin luther king jr center for nonviolent social change. >> doctor king, thank you so much for being with us today. thank you. you know, for having me in your last. i've been i've been, you know, i've been seeing everything you're posting online and whatnot and the speeches you've been giving. and it made me think about something that your, your father said. one of the last interviews that he did in 1967, it was actually nbc interview. he did it at ebenezer down in atlanta, and he quoted frederick douglass. and as he has many times before, and he said that one thing we knew in the south is that freedom is not given. it's won. and he talked

about the fact that that justice is won by not just fighting the battles that you know you can win, but being willing to fight the battles that you know, you could even possibly lose. that's where justice really is, and that's where the fight is. and you have really, i think, been encouraging people to sit in that space, to not lean back and check out, but to lean forward and lean in and be vigilant and continue to do the work. do i have that right? >> you have it absolutely right. >> and part of my greatest encouragement is my mother's words. who said struggle is a never ending process? freedom is never really won. you earn it and win it in every generation, which indicates that we have to always remain vigilant, no matter who is in office, from the federal level to the state and the municipal level, we have a responsibility to the freedom struggle every generation does, and it's not going to be easy. there's going to be some very difficult days ahead. as daddy said, the last, his last words out of his mouth, the

mountaintop speech. it's going to be very challenging, but i think it's wonderful that this occurs on the king holiday, the inauguration, because it reminds us of king. it points us back to king. it says when we move forward, you all, we got to do it in the spirit of king. and that's why the king center has as its theme this year mission possible protecting freedom, justice and democracy and the spirit of nonviolence 365, which is kingian nonviolence is taught and demonstrated by my father. >> let's talk about what mission possible looks like. here is vice president harris talking about how we define a win. take a listen. >> our definition of the win is the definition that takes us over a period of time. >> we must be strong and that whatever the outcome of any particular moment, we can never be defeated. our spirit can

never be defeated. because when that happens, we won't win. >> doctor king, what do you say to those americans who do, in fact feel defeated going into monday? >> look, i say to all of us, we come from ancestors who face very dark, difficult, challenging, maybe very evil times, but they overcame. i think that's why the song of the movement was we shall overcome, because they were drawing strength from their, their ancestors, and they were also looking forward to a to a mission that they were determined to get to. and so, you know, we have to stay focused on the goal, the mission, not get sidelined by whatever the challenges are. but the greatest part of it is we have to strategize. we've been missing the strategy. we've been missing the spirit of doctor king. many people talk about doing the work of doctor king, but i always ask, are you doing it in the spirit of doctor king?

in the spirit of doctor king is nonviolence. and nonviolence is not just a posture. it's a mindset for us. we define it as a love centered way of thinking, speaking, acting, and engaging that leads to personal, cultural, and societal transformation. so it works on you. first, you have to be in the right frame of reference to fight these injustices so that you don't become like the unjust. >> you know, i think it's interesting and listening, listening to you, miss king, i'm i'm imagining a two, two views of this. one is a president elect, kamala harris, speaking to the nation on doctor king's birthday at her inauguration versus donald trump speaking to the nation on on doctor king's birthday. and i have that flashback to the last time donald trump spoke in such a,

such a way where he laid out this dystopian view of the country. and then i bring into this conversation the words of joe biden in his farewell to the nation, in which he talked about planting seeds. let's take a listen. >> it will take time to feel the full impact of all we've done together. but the seeds are planted and they'll grow, and they'll bloom for decades to come. >> so as a nation, we have an opportunity to plant seeds. we could have planted seeds with kamala harris. we could have planted seeds with donald trump. we had those choices to make. when that moment occurs. during this speech on monday with the president elect, what seeds do you want to see planted that that can grow in in that garden, in that space that doctor king

envisioned for us? >> are you speaking from his speech or just period? >> yeah. i mean, just period, because we don't know what his speech is going to be about. >> we sure don't. >> right? no, no no no. understood. but i'm saying from not so we don't know what what what trump is going to say necessarily. but i'm just saying this idea of planting seeds, that's really going to be the mission in front of us, regardless of the words of the man, because it does come back to what we do. to your point, what we do? do we how do we live out that spirit of doctor king, the nonviolent spirit, but also the activist spirit? >> well, i think all of us have to continue on a daily basis to ask a fundamental question. and that is what is required of me in this season. and it changes per season depending on what

we're faced with. am i willing to make the necessary sacrifices? and that's really important to understand because they made sacrifices in my father's movement. they were willing to pay the price no matter what. no matter what came. my father said, i'm determined to create this. this just society. and we too have to decide whether we want to do whatever it takes. not in a violent way, but in a nonviolent way. and then we have to remember something. he charged us with in 1968. right. in that last speech, he said, maintain unity. and so it is important that we come out of our silos in this moment because things grow, because there are some people who are continuing to water those things. that's why we

can't sit out, sow the seeds that have already been planted for freedom, justice and democracy. the sacrifices of some people previously, even in this generation who have planted seeds, have to be watered. because, as my father said, one of the tragedies of human history is the children of darkness are often more determined than the children of light. and i'm on a mission to prove the opposite, that it's the children of light that are more determined and zealous than the children of darkness. and so we have to continue with that zeal and that determination, no matter what that last part. >> doctor bernice king, thank you so much for joining us. lots more to discuss ahead, folks. more to discuss ahead, folks. this is the weekend. -honey... -but the gains are pumping! dad, is mommy a "finance bro?" she switched careers to make money for your weddings. oooh the asian market is blowing up! hey who wants shots, huh?! -shots?? -of milk. the right money moves aren't as aggressive as you think.

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those seeds do grow into something. and as we know, not all seeds are good seeds. and, you know, weeds come from someplace. so, you know that that for me is was a very stark image of, of this moment that, you know, we're talking about what will happen on monday, but we may lose sight of the fact that how we got to monday in the first place, because we planted that seed that allowed this moment to grow. and it had two ways to grow. and so i just i just, you know, i thought that was a very interesting and profoundly introspective, at least for me, conversation in that regard. >> no, i loved it. i would like to know, i think i can speak for all black women in america when i say we did not plant the seed people are going to see on monday. okay. we i, i think i think i can i think i'm comfortable speaking for black women writ large when i say that

i don't usually like to do that, but i think my sisters will appreciate that piece. for me, as i think about reverend doctor martin luther king jr, i think about the fact that the movement, the civil rights movement specifically, and doctor king's work for he died was a work of economic working for trying to combat economic inequality. he was talking about bringing people together across race and class. that the his dream wasn't just to be able to sit at the lunch counter, but that people could own the lunch counter and doctor king and the movement had to continue regardless of who was in office. and i do think that that's something people need to take to heart. and i think we talk a lot about defense of our institutions, but if we really drill down on it, at least for me, i think that what's most important is defense of the hard fought gang's defense of the gains of the work. and the work is what is important here. the hard fought gains, the rights, the rights. >> i also thought the part that

the argument she made and that touched me personally, was this idea that we have to be leading from a place of love and we have to center love. because yes, as marc elias often says, there's not just going to be a resistance. there needs to be an opposition, but to center oneself from a place of why? because i love my community and i love my neighbor, and i love this country, and that is the reason that i'm continuing to fight. that is fundamentally different than i don't like this guy. and the guy is the problem. it's about knowing what you are for, who you are, for who you stand with, and if you are centered in that, you are a much more powerful than. if not. >> preach on it. preach now. >> preach that seed baby, planting that seed, planting the seed, the rights, the people. >> more, more of the weekend is straight ahead. and then next to ali velshi, because y'all don't go anywhere. ali is going to be joined by journalist and nobel peace prize recipient maria ressa, and they're going to discuss the future of journalism under trump's second term. so stay with us, folks.

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