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of the middle east, where the long awaited ceasefire in gaza is officially in effect. the first phase of the ceasefire calls for the staggered release of 33 israeli and foreign hostages, and the release of the first round of those hostages could come at any moment. hamas says those hostages, all women, will be 24 year old rami golan. 28 year old emily damari and 31 year old doron steinbrecher. for more live for more living. hostages are expected to be released in seven days, according to israeli officials. joining us now live from israel nbc news correspondent daniele hamamdjian. >> daniele, good morning to you. just bring us up to date on the latest. >> well, just in the past ten minutes we have started to see social media posts circulating, showing the red cross on its way to pick up those three hostages.

were not expecting to hear any official comment from the red cross. they've said they will not be commenting on operations, but things seem to be going according to schedule, which i can tell you. in the past week, nothing has gone according to schedule. things have been changing every hour. it's been so fluid. but israeli officials have said that the israeli hostages would not be released before 4 p.m. local time. it is just now past 4 p.m. local time and we are seeing now, according to social media, the red cross on its way to pick up those three hostages. it's a moment so many thought would just never come. after 15 months. it was supposed to start at six 830 local time here this morning. but israeli officials said that they had not received the name of those three hostages that michael just mentioned and that according to the agreement, according to the terms of the agreement, they are supposed to get the names 24 hours beforehand. hamas responded by

saying that they were technical field operation issues, whether that meant that they had issues or trouble communicating. relaying the names of the hostages is unclear, but what we know is that the cease fire went into effect at 1115 during those three hours, according to the civil defense, more than 19 people were killed. imagine they survived 470 days, only to die in the last three hours. it just goes to show how every minute, every hour, every day here matters. now, what do we know about the hostages being released? rami gonin, 24 years old. she was abducted from the nova music festival. doron steinbrecher, 31 years old. she was abducted from kibbutz elazar. and emily damari, 28 years old. she is a british citizen and she was kidnaped from that same kibbutz along with some friends. in exchange for those hostages. israel will be releasing 90 or so palestinian prisoners today. men and women. we understand that

the female prisoners have now started to be bused in into the west bank, and we are expecting to see them released later today. but over the course of the next six weeks, hundreds of palestinian prisoners will be exchanged in will be released in exchange for 33 hostages based on humanitarian grounds. michael. >> nbc's daniele hamamdjian, thank you very much. joining us now by phone is nbc's chief foreign affairs correspondent, andrea mitchell. also with us is the former chief of staff at the cia and the department of defense, jeremy bash. andrea, can we just start with you? the red cross has been just critical in the efforts that we're going to see over the next couple, has been in the efforts leading up to in terms of understanding how the state of the hostages they have been allowed access into, into see them. this is how we know that there are people that are actually alive. what can you tell us about how what we're going to see choreographed over

the next just minutes, frankly, and then in the days and weeks to come. >> come on. it's going to be on and off and very difficult to assess as it was overnight when there was a brief halt in all of this, around 1 a.m. eastern time. >> one thing we do know is that these three women are being released, three israeli women, because officials in both countries and the negotiators have said they are in very bad shape. >> so the good news is that they're coming out, the bad news and what is going to become apparent to israelis, to their families, is that they have suffered grievously. >> we've been told by officials that they have been attacked in every possible way. >> that is why they are the three first to be released. >> and that is the sequence that we're going to see the injured, the last to be released will be healthy military, especially healthy military americans. >> and that is unfortunate for some of the american families as well. >> the american families, the hostage families in general have

been very supportive, although distressed. >> ruby hassan in particular, and some of the others have been really supportive of their their colleagues. >> they're a big family, these hostage families, all of them together, especially the americans who have bonded as well as the israelis. >> but they realize that they are not going to get their hostages, their family members, their sons and daughters back. >> in this case, all sons. there are no american women still held. >> they're not going to get them back alive or dead. >> equally important to them until later in this whole process and the process, the second phase of which does not start until six weeks from now, hasn't even begun to be negotiated. so it's very perilous. >> i should also point out the red cross to your initial question has been critical, and one of the things that's been horrific for everyone involved in this on the israeli side and international hostages as well, is that the red cross was not

involved, as is required under international law. >> they were not permitted to see the hostages to assess their condition from day one. that is what is supposed to be done under international rules of law, rules of war, i should say, and that has not been done. so we don't know very much about the condition of some of the other hostages. the americans are not to be released. two american men, one keith siegel, who is 65 years old. >> the other is jessica chen. until several weeks into this process, it's a six week process, and one of the critical things that has happened also, which is really unprecedented, is that a big push to get this done came from donald trump, from his post on social media, from what he said in a radio program just the last few days, from what he said, and most memorably on tuesday, a week ago, tuesday or two weeks ago this coming tuesday in a news conference and dispatching steve

witkoff, his. >> potential u.s. media, middle east negotiator, his envoy, but already taking, taking that role, dispatching him, going to jerusalem last week weekend and basically laying the hammer down in some very tough conversations, telling netanyahu that he had to expect that donald trump wanted this to happen before the inaugural. and now it is apparently, you know, with every minute we wait to see with bated breath whether this transfer actually takes place. but we understand from danielle that the 35 prisoners from the west bank are beginning to be released. and that was one of the last details that had to be worked out. >> what were their names? >> what have they done? where would they be going? would they be allowed to stay in the west bank? would they be? told to, you know, export to other countries, to other countries, and whether or not these three women would get out?

>> andrea mitchell. >> andrea mitchell the queen. thank you. >> thank you. >> appreciate you very much. andrea. we've got jeremy bash here with us. and it's very interesting. one of the points that andrea made, jeremy, about, you know, donald trump sending his envoy, he's a private citizen, sending an envoy. yes, president elect and all of that. but this deal is something that has been worked by the biden administration for quite some time. in fact, let's listen to john kirby explaining how this cease fire deal got together in the first place. >> this is the deal that the president put on the table back in may, was endorsed by the international community. and time and time again, hamas just kept throwing up obstacles and wasn't willing to negotiate in good faith. what changed was they're weaker now, they're more isolated now, they're in more trouble. and so they're willing to make a deal, speak, speak to that aspect of this, that, this, this, this was a process that is that requires a lot of pieces to

come together. >> but a central part of that is the weakening of hamas along the way. and it's not just the hot rhetoric of, you know, there will be hell to pay if you don't do what we say. you still have to put in place the building blocks of a deal in order for it to hold. and to andrea's point, in order for that process to unfold over what will take likely six weeks, eight weeks or more. >> well, the israeli defense forces, michael, decimated hamas leadership and they took out yahya sinwar, the leader of hamas. and from that perspective, hamas has been badly damaged, debilitated, and they don't have a command and control system. they also lost a major ally in hezbollah, the terrorist army that lives on israel's northern border inside lebanon. that's one of the key proxies for iran. in addition, after iran attacked israel with ballistic missiles, drones and cruise missiles back in april and then again in october, the united states, israel and a coalition of countries took out

those missiles. and then israel conducted operations inside iran, deep inside iran, taking out not only iran's air defenses but their ballistic missile production capability. so iran was left without hezbollah, without their ballistic missiles, without their air defenses. and then the regime in syria, the assad regime, which had long been an ally of tehran, collapsed. and so you've got the remnants of hamas badly weakened without regional allies, and they had to make a deal. this all happened, michael, really over the last few months, since the fall, since israel went on the offensive against hezbollah in lebanon. so, you know, again, i'm happy to give credit to any group of people. the reality is, is that the reality is we can't celebrate, we can't rejoice, we can't take credit until all of the hostages are home. and as andrea was describing, the americans are not coming home today. there are seven americans in captivity. we should talk about them. they won't be coming home today. >> can i just note for we as

again, news is happening in real time. president biden is in south carolina today. he had no publicly scheduled events on his on his schedule. but now the president is going to deliver remarks on the ceasefire and hostage deal at 10:30 a.m. eastern from charleston, south carolina. and msnbc will bring those to folks when we have that. but the president now going to speak on again, what is a historic day, but still very much in flux. >> jeremy, as you were speaking, we were watching images from hostage square in tel aviv. obviously, this is an incredibly emotional day, not only for the families of these hostages, but for nation states that have have watched and waited for their own people to be returned. talk to me about the american hostages that are yet to be released, especially given that we know that phase one of this deal was the most solid. phase two. phase three. that is where things become more dicey. >> well, let's go over the story of the american hostages. >> 12 american hostages were taken on october 7th. 45

americans, by the way, were killed on october 7th. this was an attack against the united states as much as it was an attack against all nations of the world and israel. so 12 were taken. early on. two american women were released, and then aviva siegel was released. she's the wife of current hostage keith siegel and then baby girl abigail marie dawn, the four year old young young toddler was taken, was released, and she's the one that president biden welcomed in the oval office. so that left eight american hostages on september 1st of last year, hersh goldberg-polin was murdered at point blank range by hamas terrorists. he was the 123 years old taken from the music festival. his parents, john and rachel, known to the world because of their amazing advocacy and their their advocacy for all hostages. and so that left seven hostages. we subsequently learned that several of them had been killed. on october 7th, omar neutra, itai khan, and gadi and judy hagai. and so there are three living american hostages. and you just showed them keith

siegel, 65 years old. sagi ken, 36 years old, a father of three from kibbutz nir. and edan alexander, a military age male. now keith siegel and sagi ken will likely be released in the first group of 33 over the coming 42 day period. we don't yet know the fate of edan alexander. the american edan alexander has not been listed in the first tranche because he's a military age male, and so we have to press continuously against hamas to fulfill their agreements here and ensure that this deal happens so that all americans can be reunited with their family. >> can i follow up on that point? you referenced what happens in the next phases of this is a very difficult challenge. what happens if that breaks down? where does that leave this process? and certainly where does that leave the remaining hostages? >> well, your point, michael, is exactly right, which is this is

incredibly fragile. and at any moment this process could break down. and that's what happened back last november when some americans came out, some hostages came out and others were left behind. this deal was put on the table eight months ago. president biden put this out there in may. it could have been signed. the documents that they signed in doha this week were dated back from last spring and last summer. and so if you talk to, for example, the parents of hersh goldberg-polin, as i have and as i know you have, you know, what they know is that hersh is the only american who we could have saved with this deal, who we did not. we left him behind. we failed him. and we can't fail the others. this is an absolutely critical moment. it's very fragile. and the trump administration, which is going to take office here tomorrow, is going to be responsible for pressing this deal forward. no spiking the football, no declaring mission accomplished until all the hostages are home. >> all right, jeremy bash, thank you so much for being at the table this morning. really appreciate it. much more to discuss on this coming up next. you're watching the weekend on msnbc.

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undersecretary of state for public diplomacy and public affairs. welcome to you both. >> good morning to you both. evelyn, i want to begin with you. this is, of course, a moment that we've waited a long time for. so i want you to, of course, have a moment to talk about that. but it also comes in the shadow of what we're told is a very fragile deal. help us understand the dynamics at play that are adding to that fragility. >> yeah. >> alicia, you know, this is amazing that we're at this point. >> of course, it came much too long. as you said, it's been 15 months. so we should pause and acknowledge that it's a it's a it's an achievement. you know, people are going to live and some of the, you know, the hostages of course, are being released and the palestinians are going back to their homes hoping to rebuild. so, you know, we're at a point now where there are glimmers of hope. >> but as you intimated with your question, there's a long road to go, because this is just the first phase. >> there are so many unanswered

questions about what comes next and how to build some kind of secure, stable peace agreement coming out of this process, which will last more than hopefully 40 the 42 days. but then beyond that, you know, evelyn, as you were chatting, our producer is telling us that we're going to have some we have live photos and we'll put them up. >> this what you're seeing right now is in israel. this is where we expect the hostages to come. this is the first images that we will see. the hostages live here in israel. so as you can see, emergency vehicles on the ground, police vehicles, people really just preparing. again, this is the first. this is the first hostages coming back. rick, talk to us about this. the first three are going to be released. andrea mitchell told us at the top of the hour that these three women were first to be released. because it's the understanding from everyone on

all sides of these negotiations that these are the women that are in the most dire of states. they'll be released. we know there will be they'll be taken to a hospital. what is happening now on the back end, on the diplomatic side of things, because again, the deal is very, very fragile, as we all have discussed. >> yes. >> i think on the back end you have the trump administration trying to figure out how they're going to handle this. >> i mean it, you know, the passing, the football, handing it off to the trump administration. >> now, all of these folks in the biden administration who have worked for months and months, years trying to get a deal like this. >> i mean, they are history now. brett mcgurk, jon finer, all of these fantastic people who have been struggling to get hamas to the table, struggling to get bibi netanyahu to agree. now the trump administration, it's in their hands. you know, as evelyn said, this is a very, very, very long process. and we're at the

very, very beginning. >> i mean, how to have some kind of governance in gaza, how to try to empower the palestinian authority to actually govern in gaza, which i'm sure the trump administration will try to do. >> this is a very long and fraught process. and frankly, it's going to take years and years and years to have some kind of new dispensation. and i think, you know, the, the, the two state solution, which we've all supported for many years, is not something that the trump administration supports. part of the reason that bibi netanyahu did the deal is that he thinks the trump administration will support the israeli annexation of the west bank, which would put the kibosh on a two state solution. >> so i think it's the beginning of a very long, difficult process. >> evelyn, the you have a reaction coming out from palestinians in gaza who are asking the question, should we grieve, rejoice, or cry? as

reported by the guardian, major unresolved questions now loom over gaza's future reconstruction. if the cease fire reaches its final phase will take several years at least. it may take 30 to 50 years to rebuild. according to some estimates, there is still no agreement who will govern gaza after the war. so while we are very, very excited and very hopeful with the release of the hostages, there's still this this thread, this storyline about gaza. it's place in and relationship with israel. how do you see that narrative, that piece coming into clearer focus over the next few months as this ceasefire plan goes into effect? the thinking and the consideration of actually rebuilding gaza? >> yeah. i mean, michael, you raise a really important point. >> the future of gaza has a huge question mark hanging over it. the netanyahu government thought

that they had dealt with the with the challenge posed by hamas, by essentially cordoning off gaza. we know what the bloody attack that they launched into israel from gaza that that didn't work. so what's next? what's the alternative? you need to have someone governing gaza, palestinian authority, as you said. but the current palestinian authority is quite weak and doesn't have a lot of popular support among the palestinian people, including the palestinian people in gaza. the good news is that hamas doesn't have a lot of support now, either. among the regular palestinian people in gaza, but the international community really needs to figure out what should the governing authority be, and then who is going to provide security, because obviously, from the perspective of the israelis, also, they need to know that they're not going to be attacked again by hamas or any other fighters from gaza. and that requires the active involvement of the of the gulf states. they have been involved together with egypt. there's so many players here that that must

be pressured to do the right thing. and this is where i think the question of what president trump's administration is going to advocate is most important because, as richard said, you know, under the last trump administration, they seem to be posturing in favor of a of a one state solution that's been shown to be completely impossible. now with the attack from gaza. hopefully the trump folks understand that and they will work towards a two state solution, but that will require active diplomacy and pressure also on the israeli government, as we've seen them exert right now. >> rick, we are all absolutely glued to our screens watching and waiting for these three hostages to be released at 1030. we know we're going to hear from president biden some remarks on this deal. and in this moment, what are you watching and waiting for in the next 24 to 48 hours? >> you know, lisa, i think i don't even know who said that. >> they don't know whether to be

happy or sad or or or scattered disappointed. >> but i think one of the things that we have to watch for is just how damaged and brutalized the hostages are, and it will be a very, very sobering thing to see. as you all mentioned, the first three women are in extremis. supposedly. it's going to be very sobering. there'll be a lot of anger on the part of the israelis. >> there will be a lot of pressure to kind of go back to war. >> i mean, the three extreme right wing members of netanyahu's cabinet, including the security minister, resigned because they said the deal was a betrayal. it's making a deal with terrorism. there'll be a lot of pressure within israel about that. you know, there's a possibility that netanyahu's government can fall. and, you know, in the knesset, they have only a 2 or 3 seat margin. so i

think that's the thing to look for. and i think what you'll hear from president biden today is just saying, look, this is what diplomacy can yield. people who have expertise in the region. and he will he will also suggest, i'm sure, as evelyn mentioned, that there needs to be a lot of help, a lot of help from the gulf states, a lot of help from the international community, from the un to try to kind of put gaza back on its feet. and again, the other very, very sobering thing, and the last thing i'll add is tony blinken yesterday said hamas has recruited as many people over the last six months as they lost in the war. that's a very sobering thing as well. >> and we're also getting a statement from the idf that says their helicopters are prepared for the process of receiving the hostages returning from gaza. evelyn farkas, rick stengel, thank you both so much for being with us on this big day of breaking news. we are keeping all eyes on israel, and we're going to go back to the region. going to go back to the region. the moment we have n when you're a small-business owner, your to-do list can be...a lot.

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you come into a job and they tell you, you better get yourself some liability insurance, you may need a lawyer later on, tells you all about the work that you're going to be engaged in with the team. you're going to be engaged in that work with. what is your assessment as you've watched, for example, the and i refer to them as the menagerie of misfits, the folks who've been paraded in front of the country with more to come. kash patel, for example, for these positions in the administration, give us a little bit of what you think that's going on here, that people should know why these folks are in these in these roles, and particularly what donald trump expects of them, because my sense is he's the guy who wants to be able to call secretary so-and-so or someone even below, down, down further in the bowels of the administration, pick up the phone and say, hey, i need you to do x, y, and z. >> yeah, i think i'll give credit where credit is due.

there have been a couple of good cabinet picks. i said a couple, though. i think when you look at the vast majority of them, i think that they were picked based on one thing only and that is loyalty to donald trump. i feel like these some of these people, like kash patel or pam bondi, these are folks who are going to be loyal to donald trump, and i worry about their ability to uphold the constitution and their ability to push back on donald trump. i mean, we saw even in pam bondi's hearings, she said that they wouldn't go after political prosecutions, but then she didn't rule out certain people that they would go after. and so it does concern me about some of these people that are going to be in these roles, because i do think while the senate has a duty to advise and consent, it appears like a lot of these senators who i was banking on, hoping that they would push back on some of these unqualified nominees that they are probably going to get by. i really think that almost all of them are probably going to be confirmed now. >> and we just so you know, sarah, we had senator kirsten

gillibrand on with us earlier and she said much the same. you namechecked pam bondi. and one exchange that she had during her hearing. i want you to take a listen to another exchange. and this is about the results of the 2020 election. >> who won the 2020 presidential election? >> joe biden is the president of the united states. do i accept the results? of course i do. do i agree with what happened? and i saw so much, you know, no one from either side of the aisle should want there to be any issues with election integrity. in our country, there was a peaceful transition of power. president trump left office and was overwhelmingly elected in 2024. >> not a peaceful trip. there was not a peaceful transfer of power. literally, literally january 6th. okay. and then and then he didn't even attend the

inauguration last time. i just wanted to point that out. >> well, nor was he overwhelmingly elected because he got he didn't get 50%. >> i will say that he didn't get 50%. >> yeah. >> as you know, sarah simone, michael, folks are prepped for these hearings, right? i mean, that is part of it. democrats, republicans doesn't matter. you sort of anticipate the questions that are going to be asked of you, especially the stickiest questions that are going to be asked. there's no way that the people who prepped her did not anticipate that this was going to come up. that was a carefully crafted answer to both not say the thing that she was saying, which was, i do believe that there were issues with this election, and i don't believe that joe biden won this election. it was all in the subtext. help explain, sarah, why that matters, right? why what the stakes are for having someone lead the department of justice who still relitigating the 2020 election. >> yeah, i mean, full stop. if you're not able to say that the

election was free and fair and it was not stolen in 2020, then you don't deserve to have a cabinet position in my view. but obviously this is what she needs to say because she's catering to an audience of one, which is donald trump. she knows that this is what she needs to say in order to secure her position to be in his cabinet. and so she can't say what we all know to be true, which is that there is zero evidence of fraud that joe biden won fair and square, and that there wasn't a peaceful transfer of power because, as you guys noted, 140 police officers were brutally attacked on january 6th and there was only a peaceful transfer of power. i guess after that, if you can call that peaceful. but yes, he didn't even attend her joe biden's inauguration, which you guys noted as well, which i think is really striking considering there was so much pushback from the far right about michelle obama not attending the inauguration. but i really i find that just very ironic, then, that they weren't up in arms. then when donald

trump and melania trump did not attend joe biden's inauguration. so i think that it this shows, though, what he demands of these folks, that he is going to put in positions of power, which is that they are going to push his agenda at all costs and never push back on him. >> sarah. and, you know, let me know if you don't want to answer this, but i think we're on tv, so we're going to ask i, you know, you have been outspoken about what you have experienced and your experience working within the trump orbit in the first administration about you've been outspoken about this moment for republicans during the campaign, and you've you have not backed down since donald trump's reelection. i have to wonder, are you are you concerned that on this, you know, list that is not actually written down, but it is a verbal and a proverbial list that you you are on it and that you should be doing things to gird

yourself because the retribution that the president's allies and potential staff and potential department heads, right, have talked about is very real. >> no, it definitely is a very real concern. obviously, i knew when i resigned on january 6th, and then when i went to testify before the january 6th committee that this was a risk i was taking, was i was putting a target on my back and that donald trump could come after me if he were to be put back in power. and so now, obviously, that is a really very real scenario that i might be facing. but at the end of the day, i knew that my fears about any retribution that i might face, i think my guilt would have far outweighed that if i hadn't come forward and told the american people the truth and i hadn't spoken up. and so i feel very comfortable with my position that i made the right call. i know that even if it didn't pan out the way i wanted, that i think history will look upon what i did favorably, and those of my colleagues who also have spoken out. and i'll continue to

speak out and hold his administration accountable moving forward. i know that they want to silence folks like myself, and they want to try to scare us, but i'm not going to back down for any fears of that, because i know that i'm i know that i'm telling the truth and i have nothing to hide. i know i haven't done anything wrong. and so if they wanted to come after me, then that's something that they could do. but i do think that his administration would be best served to focus on the things that they were elected on. so people put him back into power because they were concerned about things like the cost of groceries, the state of the world, things like that. and so if he wants to be successful, his administration should focus on those things and not going after his, quote unquote, political enemies. but i it remains to be seen how that will all pan out. obviously, i really look forward to hearing the kash patel confirmation hearings and more on that. but we will see, in fact, just real quick, i know we're going to break it will also say a lot about us, us

american citizens. >> if someone like sara comes under retribution or receives retribution because she used her voice to tell the truth, her truth in the moment, in the job that she was in. so, you know, we as citizens should be looking at this very closely as well. >> and sara continues to have more courage than many of the men that she worked for. >> all of the men. >> sara matthews. thank you. much more to discuss ahead, folks. and we do want to quickly tell you about a new msnbc newsletter, trump's first 100 days. scan that qr code on your screen right now, put that phone up and you can sign up to receive weekly updates and expert insights on the crucial early days of donald trump's second term. scan that qr code and don't you go anywhere. >> did you know some liquid laundry detergents are designed to leave chemical residue on your clothes? >> try earth breeze laundry

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news today on the i guess on the last one that we discussed on tiktok and bytedance, there is a section of the law given that president, the president elect, has talked about giving an extension to the bipartisan law. bipartisan. it's important to note that, alicia, bipartisan law, there's a section of the law that says the president can grant a one time extension for the company. and there's three sets of criteria. the first set of criteria for that extension, they have first, the president has to certify, has to say this to congress, is that there's a clear divestiture plan for the company. and the first criteria ain't even been met here. so i do think that this will be a long conversation going forward for the between the now incoming president and this new congress. >> i don't think it's going to be as long as you think it is, really i think, donald, i think donald trump and bytedance go and cut their deal. they're going to find the workaround in the law and do what they want to do with it. i mean, look, this

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