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resume. any minute now, the president elect will speak to a rally of his supporters at the capital one arena in washington, d.c, ahead of his inauguration inside the capitol rotunda tomorrow. his swearing in will take place on the federal holiday honoring doctor martin luther king jr at noon tomorrow. both men's dreams of american greatness will be on full display on opposite ends of the national mall. trump's dream is lost in the fog of the past, a forgotten paradise only one man can restore. king's dream is a vision for the future, an ideal whose that we must build together by seizing the urgency of the moment. in the coming four years, it will be up to all of us to decide which which version of the country we wish
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to live in. we have a big show on this historic night. late in the hour, we'll be joined by house minority leader hakeem jeffries, congressman from brooklyn. and in just a few minutes, we'll talk with martin luther king, the third, and his wife, andrea waters king, about the dream. we start the show with congresswoman ayanna pressley, democrat of massachusetts. i want to start tonight with the breaking news, congresswoman, that we've been following on tiktok. the app has apparently restored service to some users in the united states. after shutting down last night. they restored with a statement they would be working with trump on a solution. trump has posted this afternoon he will issue an executive order tomorrow, delaying the ban passed by congress and signed by president biden as he pushes for a deal that would give the united
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states 50% ownership. you oppose the tiktok ban. can you give us your reaction to what we are watching unfold right now? >> well, i was opposed to the tiktok ban, and that remains my approach. certainly, there are credible concerns there relative to foreign governments having access to our data, but that bill was not the right approach. we need a holistic, comprehensive approach. >> we need oversight. >> we need, you know, standards and regulations. but for everyone, for google, for x, for meta. so we need a comprehensive holistic bill. and then, you know, i think some people would make tiktok just about, you know, trendy dances. >> but tiktok is where many people consume their news. >> it is where people organize, build community. and it is also where many, many people make a living. so i'm glad that it is
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back up and i look forward to us doing the work towards a comprehensive, holistic bill about all, all of them, not just tiktok. >> now, it's been a busy weekend in our nation's capital. saturday, demonstrators turned out for the people's march, braving the chilly weather to speak out in favor of reproductive rights, racial justice and lgbtq rights. tomorrow, as trump is being sworn in, i will be holding a celebration for martin luther king jr, and we'll be talking about that a little later with his son about other things. but we'll be saying that we're going to take an oath to keep the dream alive, that that a little more in a few minutes we'll deal with. but can you describe the mood this evening in washington, d.c? >> well, you know, rev, i'm not
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attending the inauguration. i think it is a painful contradiction to all that the reverend doctor martin luther king jr. represented, and i want to include coretta in that as well. my district, the massachusetts seventh. this is where martin and coretta met. before there was montgomery, there was boston. he is doctor king because he received his phd at boston university. and when she was a student at new england conservatory conservatory, that's where this is where their relationship was forged. and it ultimately birthed the movement. so i will be in community in roxbury. i think we are at that inflection point. doctor king posed that urgent question where do we go from here, chaos or community? and, reverend, it's important that we choose community and that we are intentional about it. now, i can tell you what the climate is in my district. and it is it is that of fear. people recognize that there is a line of demarcation. i have constituents calling my office saying,
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whatever you can do for me on immigration, passport, social security, irs, whatever their need is, please do it by january 20th because they they're fearful of what will happen after that. so that's another reason why we're doing this beloved community event in my district is to empower people and give them that agency to mitigate the harm. as we brace for the impact of what is to come. >> and we are here in fear, that's why we are going to metropolitan a.m.e. tomorrow to have the rally to deal with right there in washington. the alternative. but the trump administration you touched on it is reportedly reconsidering a massive immigration raid in chicago meant to take place in the first days of his new presidency, according to the washington post. trump's border czar is claiming leaks have compromised the operation, even though, according to the wall street journal, homan himself has been heard discussing the raids himself. lost in all of
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this back and forth is how the raids would impact the communities being targeted. what are your thoughts? >> you know, rev, i represent a district that was hardest impacted but hardest impacted by trump's first presidency. i have every reason to believe that will be true. again. i'm hearing from community members and neighbors and constituents that are making contingency plans in the face of these threats of mass deportation and detention, all outlined in project 2025, which was a playbook. so it is trump's agenda. i have parents that are telling their children what to do if they come home and they're not there. i have elders that are worried about what will they do if they don't have their medications on them? you know, rev, there is no linear path to immigration status in this country. and so what what we will be bearing witness to and what we are bracing for, is the impact of just the devastation and separation of families.
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>> you said on the financial services committee. so i want to take your take on a story that has been a bit lost in the hype around the inauguration on friday, just 72 hours before being sworn in as president for a second time, donald trump launched a meme, a meme coin that reportedly made more than five than $50 billion on paypal for himself and his companies in just days, the crypto world has cozied up to trump as they seek to avoid more federal regulation, which is an important issue for black americans, who are nearly twice as likely to invest in crypto than whites, even as they lag behind in other types of banking and investing. do you have any concerns about trump's cryptocurrency activities, and is there anything that can be
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done about it? >> rev donald trump is nothing if not predictable and consistent. this is not surprising from someone who was selling bibles. he is self interested, self promoting and about building wealth for himself. if he was really about the everyman, then he would come before the financial services committee and testify. because we do need to, we need to, we need to regulate crypto and protect consumers. >> before i let you go, president biden this morning announced five more pardons, including the posthumous pardon of for civil rights leader marcus garvey. biden has now issued more pardons and commutations than any other president, many of them going to nonviolent drug offenders. you've been very vocal in calling on the president to make full use of his clemency authority. can you talk about why that's so important?
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>> rev, when you have the power, you have to use it, and the authority and the power rests with the president alone. and i'm so grateful that president biden has used it. i want to encourage him to continue to do it. it is life changing. it is transformative. it is about second chances. it is about redemption. it is about addressing systemic injustices in our carceral system. i make an appeal to him to continue to be bold, because it is also a matter of legacy. and there are people whose lives hang in the balance, like marilyn mosby, in the same way that hunter biden was targeted, so was marilyn mosby for the work that she was doing. when it comes to progressive criminal legal reform, she is sentenced for using her own retirement money to purchase a home. people like ishmael lira, a young man who has a life sentence for a nonviolent cannabis conviction. people like charles ellis from my district. marilyn mosby was also raised in my district. charles ellis had ineffective counsel at the age of 19 and is still incarcerated. we have 800
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incarcerated men who have been fighting wildfires, and at the end of that day, they returned to a work camp, and there may be getting $5 a day. listen, people need to be reunited with their families and afforded an opportunity to make a positive contribution. so joe biden must continue to act, must continue to act boldly, and suddenly he has a few hours left to do it. >> and i hope marilyn mosby and jesse jackson junior is on his list. we've been urging him that for some time as well, as we're glad about marcus garvey and the others that he has done in historic numbers. thank you. congresswoman ayanna pressley, democrat of massachusetts. tomorrow, the country will celebrate doctor martin luther king day. joining me now is martin luther king, the third global human rights activist, and andrea walters king, president of the drum major institute, both coauthors of a new book, what is my legacy? for
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the second time, donald trump will be inaugurated tomorrow as president of the united states on the same day of remembrance, to honor the life and legacy of doctor martin luther king, jr. in my capacity as president of the national action network, i will lead a rally in washington, dc tomorrow to affirm the dream of doctor king. and you all have been all over the country with the dream institute and the beloved community. so i want to ask you, as my first question to both of you is, can you speak to the contrast between trump's inauguration falling on the holiday of doctor martin luther king? first, you, martin, as his oldest living child and bearer of the legacy, and you, andrea, who has come in the spirit of coretta and has really championed the beloved community concept. >> so, rev, thank you for the opportunity. >> and when we think about the comparing and contrasting, you
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know, dad was about building coalitions, was about lifting people up. you know, if we go on the past of what president elect right now trump has done, it really has been creating a lot of division. we have to challenge him, though, to really do what he said he was going to do, which is represent all americans. that means he first needs to have some dialog with those who did not support him. i think that's critically important. >> i don't know if i expect it, but we're going to continue to challenge him to do that, which is good, just and right for all americans in a very, very difficult time of circumstances. >> with fires going on in la, we really need to be focused on lifting up the people of la with with so many other things. but, you know, it's interesting because there's that good that's looming out there that dad represents. and then there's the
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contrast of what president elect trump will represent to some in our nation. >> andrea. >> i certainly agree with everything that martin just said. and. hi, honey. we're in the, i think, the same state, two different cities. we've been working separately this last few days. i think it in some ways is very poetic. if anything, that we will be on tomorrow. looking at the two legacies, if you will, of these men and, and in some ways there can't be any greater contrast. you know, it's, you know, legacy that thus far has represented for far too many fear, as a congresswoman just talked about earlier, division, if we look at what happened on january 6th, just a couple of years ago, violence, you know, fear mongering. so you have you have that. and then you
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also can contrast that with our higher angels, with the best of who we were when you, who we are, who we can be. when you think of martin luther king jr and coretta scott king, when you think of peace and justice and equity and the nobleness and ultimately of love, and when we're talking about love, we're not talking about the sentimental type of love. we're talking about the highest form of love, which is an acknowledgment of us linked together, each one of us being brothers and sisters and all of us being children of god. >> now, earlier today, the first three hostages, the israeli hostages released by hamas, arrived in israel as the long awaited ceasefire in gaza took effect. andrea, since the beginning of the war, you've been calling for a humanitarian ceasefire and for emergency release relief to gaza in a call for peace. what are your thoughts on this development
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today? >> i am like so many others. i am extremely hopeful. you know, this has been an extremely when you think about the fact of the devastation on both sides. and but certainly when you think about the fact that women and children have been impacted the most, it was encouraging that the news of this even happened to come out on january 15th. martin luther king jr's actual birthday. and so we'll as i think all of us are holding our breath, waiting and seeing, and hopefully we will see a lasting ceasefire there in the beginning of sowing the seeds of true, true peace. >> this morning, president joe biden, as we said, announced a pardon for marcus garvey, who influenced many civil rights leaders and was convicted of mail fraud in 1920. in the 1920s, martin, your father, said garvey was the first black american to lead a mass
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political movement. or what is the historical significance in your judgment of this pardon? >> well, when we made mistakes in history, the pardon as a law gives the opportunity to correct that mistake. >> so it's a correct a course correction. i mean, all the things that that marcus garvey did and personified really are still needed today. so it gives us an opportunity to go back to a time to reengage in history, a people that do not remember their history are doomed to repeat the mistakes. and when someone is pardoned, that is the president lifting them back up, hopefully to a stature and status of where they should be. so that is absolutely amazing. >> martin luther king the third and andrea walters king, let me ask you this. lastly, as you go
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forward around the country with the beloved community and your daughter, doctor king's only grandchild, do you hope that as people advocate in his name, as they're doing all over the country tomorrow, as will be doing the national action network in washington tomorrow, do you hope they get the essence of what doctor king was about? not just the symbol, but the substance of his work? me or you? start with you, martin. okay, absolutely. >> i mean, look, we can every i'm asked, have we achieved the dream? the question is no, we're probably not even near where we need to be. so every year in january, we start anew to rededicate ourselves to fulfilling the work. as you remember, rev mom said, this is a day on, not a day off. let's continue to do the work. lift up that message, embrace and engage in that message. >> andre, i agree and i think
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that now more than ever, we all have to be about our father's business. so tomorrow, after you, you go to the rally that you all are having there in dc, or you go to what's going on in your communities. i'm in san antonio, texas, which has the largest mlk king march in the nation. well, we also are hoping i've seen the text going around that's telling everybody to turn off their their tvs at 12 noon. what we're hoping is that everybody goes into their communities and do something of service. we have a realized the dream initiative, realize the dream.org, where we are completing 100,000,000 hours of service by 2029, the 100th birthday of doctor king. we already have 200,000 teachers that have signed up and have activated their classes, so we want everybody to get out and be a part of creating the world in which you want to live and be a part of eliminating racism and poverty and bigotry and violence. >> all right. martin luther king the third, and andrea walters
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king, thank you, as always, for being with us. now, i want to take you out to washington, dc, where president elect donald trump is taking the stage at his make america great again victory rally. this, of course, is just one of the many live scheduled events celebrating trump's inauguration tomorrow. let's listen in for a minute. >> hello, america. >> we're all over america. >> i'm thrilled to be back with so many friends, supporters, and true american patriots on the eve of taking back our country. >> that's what we're going to do. take back our country tomorrow at noon, the curtain closes on four long years of american decline, and we begin a brand new day of american strength and prosperity. >> dignity and pride, bringing it all back once and for all.
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we're going to end the reign of a failed and corrupt political establishment in washington. >> a failed administration. >> we're not going to take it anymore. >> we're going to stop the invasion of our borders. >> we're going to reclaim our wealth. >> we're going to unlock the liquid gold that's right under our feet. >> liquid gold. we're going to bring back law and order to our cities. >> we're going to restore patriotism to our schools, get radical left woke ideologies the hell out of our military and out of our government. and we are going to make america great
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again. >> i want to thank the tens of thousands of incredible men and women who have come from all over the nation to take part in this very special moment. >> and i just heard and watching some of the coverage, that there are rallies like this taking place all over the country. >> people are happy, people are happy. >> it's been a long time. none of this would have been possible without you and the millions of hardworking citizens who have joined our cause, you know, right over there just noticed a group of beautiful ladies, beautiful women from north carolina, from north carolina, right here to. >> i don't know how the hell they they've been to 167 rallies. you believe it? >> you think their husbands are
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happy about that? i don't know, but they look beautiful. >> they're incredible people, and they love our country. >> thank you very much. and up here, i see we have front row joes all over the place. uncle sam, mr. wall. >> oh, boy, oh, boy. >> but we've been through so much together. and for the next four years, i will fight for you every single day. >> we're going to be fighting for you. >> this is the greatest political movement in american history. >> and 75 days ago, we achieved the most epic political victory our country has ever seen. that's what they say. >> we won the popular vote for the first time of any republican in many, many years. we swept all seven swing states by big numbers. we won pennsylvania, we won georgia, we won north
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carolina, we won michigan, we won wisconsin, we won arizona, we won nevada. we won them all by historic margins. and we won the great state of florida by 13 points. nobody's done that ever. and a record that will never be broken. all 50 states shifted toward the republican party. >> the first time that that's ever happened. >> all 50 states. we won the largest number of african-american voters in republican party history. we won more hispanic american votes than any republican has ever gotten before by a lot. >> and we won latino men and women. >> and on top of that, youth, men, women, urban, suburban, rural and people from everywhere
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in between are joining us in record numbers. we've never had anything like this too big to rig. that's what i used to say. too big to rig. we made it too big. oh, and they tried. they tried. it was too big. >> around 902 they just said, let's get the hell out of here. this isn't working. >> they were swamped. to put it nicely. >> we also took back the u.s. senate. >> we had some great people running, and the house republicans won their largest popular vote majority in presidential years since 1928. >> we had a lot of people voting. >> so the senate, the house republicans, they got all three of them a little bit close on those two. senate is in great shape. house republicans, actually, they both have great leaders. they both have great people heading. john thune is fantastic. and if you look at
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mike johnson, he is he's got a pretty tight majority. but actually it's very tight. but it's very good because we vote unified. we're really voting unified. and so it doesn't make much difference in the election of 2024, which will be the most consequential election in american history. we not only want a mandate, but we built a new american majority that will lead our country to unparalleled success for generations to come. that's what we want to do. and someday, in 30 years from now, 40 years from now, 50 years from now, some of these young people are going to say, i remember donald trump. he did a good job. >> i am joined now by house minority leader hakeem jeffries on the eve of martin luther king day and the inauguration. he is the author of the abcs of democracy. thanks for joining us, leader jeffries. let's start
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with the breaking news we just heard from nbc's vaughn hillyard that president trump is planning more than 50 executive orders on inauguration day tomorrow. he's reportedly planning to sign several of these orders in front of a crowd at capital one arena tomorrow afternoon. instead of an inaugural parade. among the orders are to r change to federal workforce rules or repeal of biden era green energy funding and a declaration of emergency at the border. what are your thoughts on that? well, president elect trump is going to be aggressive. >> we expect in his first 100 days and try to do as much as he can in the context of executive orders, because he has a very narrow majority in the house of
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representatives, as he just acknowledged. and it's going to be extremely difficult legislatively for republicans to accomplish the type of extreme things that many in the house would like to visit upon the american people. >> and so it's my hope that the incoming president administration will keep their word and work hard to lower the high cost of living in the united states of america. >> we were promised by the incoming administration that they would lower the cost of groceries on day one. >> let's see what happens. now, i want to ask you about the incoming administration and the new legislative session. democrats are the minority in both the house and the senate, but the margins are extremely close, unlike with the president elect just said, i want to play you an exchange from this morning between speaker mike johnson and my colleague kristen
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welker, about the republican agenda. take a listen. >> but is there bottom line, one piece of legislation targeted at bringing down grocery prices? >> well, for the american consumer, it's a complex collection of legislation because we've got to unwind and fix everything. i was on the campaign trail all last year, traveling around the country. i logged enough miles to circle the globe five and a half times, and we kept the house majority. we won the senate majority for the republican party, and we won the white house. and we told the american people that we would do well by them. >> now, to me, that sounds like there's no plan to deal with inflation. what's your response, leader jeffries? house republicans spent the last four years complaining about the high cost of living and the inflationary pressure that the american people have been under as a result of the once in a century pandemic, and indicating to the american people that they were going to get to work to
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lower grocery costs, lower energy costs, lower housing costs, lower childcare costs, lower insurance costs and lower the expenses and the pressure that the american people have been under. we're willing to work on that endeavor with my republican colleagues. >> but as you indicated, they've produced no plan. they've got no ideas. >> there is no legislative agenda that house republicans have put forward to try to make the economy more affordable. >> it was all talk, and we've seen no action. >> now, speaker johnson also said he wouldn't rule out putting conditions on disaster aid for the los angeles wildfires, maybe even tying the assistance to a debt ceiling increase. what's your response to that? would democrats consider such a deal under any circumstances? members of the california delegation of the house have made clear, and i
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share this position, that there should be no conditions attached to providing residents whose lives have been turned upside down by these historic wildfires in the context of getting them the relief that they need in order to get things turned around. >> never in american history have disaster victims been held hostage in such a way. >> in order for a party to pass their extreme agenda. that's what house republicans are proposing at this given moment in time. >> and it's the height of irresponsibility. >> understand that what the house republicans want to do is pass massive tax breaks for billionaires and wealthy corporations, and then stick working families with the bill by cutting social security, cutting medicare, cutting medicaid, cutting the affordable care act, cutting nutritional assistance, and cutting veterans benefits. that is unacceptable,
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unconscionable. and house democrats will work hard to stop it from ever happening. now, republicans and trump have been talking about a big, beautiful reconciliation bill that would try to tackle taxes, immigration and energy policy in one shot, putting an extraordinary strain on speaker mike johnson's slim majority. do you think this president's and this presents an opportunity for democrats to force some concessions from republicans in order to get such a massive piece of legislation passed? and what might those compromises be? well, our view is that there's a season to campaign and a season to govern, and now is the season to govern and to try to get things done. >> as house democrats, we are willing to try to find bipartisan common ground with the incoming administration and
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our republican colleagues on any issue, whenever and wherever possible, as long as it will make life better for the american people, particularly as it relates to driving down the high cost of living. >> unfortunately, it appears that my republican colleagues in the house want to go it alone because they'd rather try to jam an extreme, far right agenda down the throats of the american people. >> we will use every tool available to us to make clear to the american people what is happening, and to stop bad things from occurring that will hurt working class folks throughout america, the middle class, the poor, the sick and the afflicted. >> now, in the days leading up to inauguration, speaker johnson radically transformed the intelligence committee, ousting the chairman, ohio congressman mike turner, apparently due to objections from mar-a-lago.
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turner was an outspoken supporter of ukraine, and his replacement voted against billions of dollars in ukraine aid. for our viewers who might not be familiar, can you explain why the intelligence committee is so important and why this switch is so troubling? we have a system of government where we have a house, a senate presidency, and an executive branch, and of course, an independent judiciary. and the purpose is there to exist a system of checks and balances. the intelligence committee is perhaps one of the most important vehicles to oversee the activities of the administration in the context of the intelligence committee, and to do so in a nonpartisan way that puts the american people and our national security interests first. >> that's why it was a
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challenging decision in the view of many on capitol hill, to make this change at the top of the house intelligence committee. >> and we are certainly hopeful that the house republicans are not going to play politics with america's national security interests moving forward. a lot of work that you and i have shared, you've worked with national action network for many years, even before you were in office, has been around criminal justice reform. and we saw today the president, president joe biden, commute or give pardons to 2500 people, the most any president has ever done, including a pardon for marcus garvey. and we're still holding for a couple of more, which i mentioned earlier. what is your reaction to president biden on his last 24 hours making record number of pardons? he's a very transformative step forward for the cause of justice here in the
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united states of america. as president, biden has commuted sentences that were the result of the failed war on drugs. in many instances, thousands of folks who were nonviolent drug offenders whose lives were ruined, families having been ruined, communities having been ruined as a result of the mass incarceration epidemic in the united states of america. this is work that should continue to be bipartisan. as you know, reverend sharpton, during the first trump administration, we worked closely with the administration to pass the first step act, historic criminal justice reform, designed to address the overcriminalization problem in the united states of america. president biden, through these commutations, has built upon that legislation, and i'm hopeful that moving forward, we can continue to find bipartisan common ground to make
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sure that we have a right sized criminal justice system that focuses on felons who are violent, not breaking up families, particularly nonviolent drug offenders. you've talked about trying to find common ground, though there are some stark differences in how government is approached. you spoke wednesday at national action network's breakfast of martin luther king breakfast in washington. vice president harris was there. you were, in fact, honored by us. what do you hope to hear tomorrow in the inaugural address by donald trump? certainly tonight it sounded more like the donald trump we're used to. but what do you hope the tone will be and will what he will say? will you hope to see some unifying there, or will we see the kind of donald trump that we're seeing tonight? it's my hope that the incoming president will focus on the problems that matter, and an
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effort to actually try to solve those problems on behalf of hard working american taxpayers. housing costs are too high. in the united states of america. child care costs are too high. >> grocery costs are too high. as democrats, we want to work together with anyone who is interested in doing so in good faith in order to build an affordable economy here in the united states of america and drive down the high cost of living. there's far too many people in this country who are struggling to live paycheck to paycheck. >> that is not acceptable in the united states of america, the wealthiest country in the history of the world. and so it's my hope that the incoming administration will actually put working class americans, middle class americans, and the least the lost and the left behind first, as opposed to the wealthy, the well-off and the well-connected. all right. thank you. house minority leader hakeem jeffries joining me now from trump's maga victory rally
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in washington is nbc's vaughn hillyard. vaughn, you have some breaking news for us tonight. tell us what you have. >> right. reverend told that the president elect, upon being sworn in tomorrow, will come back here to the capital one arena, which is in downtown washington, d.c. and instead of having your traditional parade go down pennsylvania avenue because of the cold, they have moved those festivities that parade to inside of the arena. but what is notable tomorrow afternoon is that we're told that the president, then president trump, intends to sign several executive orders here publicly in front of the gathered crowd. and as the banner suggests, i'm told that more than 50 executive orders and potentially up to 100 will be signed over the course of tomorrow afternoon and evening, with potentially several other executive orders coming in the following days. this is notable inauguration day. we are typically used to the pomp and circumstance of it. and for
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donald trump. back in 2017, he signed one executive order on his first day in office. but he intends to have a significant show of his aggressive agenda. and i'm told that some of those executive orders, two of them particularly, could really push the envelope on presidential powers and potentially make their way to the supreme court. number one, he intends, in the coming days to declare a national emergency on the southern border. he tried to do this during his first administration in divert department of defense funds to go towards border wall construction. the federal court stepped in in just before it made its way to the supreme court, who would have potentially made a very impactful decision on presidential powers and the powers of the president to divert such funds. well, president biden came into office, and they ultimately rolled back that order. the second one, the second big decision that we are told that he intends to make is a is a challenge to the 1974 impoundment act. what is that? well, donald trump's team has
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suggested that he will sign an executive order essentially to block off already congressionally approved appropriated funds, particularly towards climate and environmental agenda that was signed under the ira by the biden administration. this could potentially hit the courts. the incoming omb director, russ vought, he acknowledged in his confirmation hearing this week that the courts have already ruled that constitutionally, the executive branch must appropriate congressionally approved funds, but suggesting that they could seek to take this to the courts. and, of course, there's a very conservative supreme court that could potentially roll back that that act. and so there are some executive orders that could have major policy repercussions come as early as just a couple hours after he is sworn into office tomorrow. >> wow. >> nbc's vaughn hilliard. thank you. coming up, donald trump will be sworn in as president in less than 24 hours. we'll have more on the big day he has planned, including those 50
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don't have to overpay. >> way better. >> popcorn? >> definitely no fear. just fox. say show me a carfax. >> com breaking news a fast moving disaster in california. breaking news. >> former president jimmy carter has died at the age of 100. >> israel and hamas will enter a cease fire, potentially ending 15 months of fighting in gaza. multiple new developments about that terror attack on bourbon street. justin trudeau announcing he intends to step down. >> donald trump is now officially a convicted felon, reporting from the nation's capital, philadelphia, el paso, the palisades from msnbc world headquarters. >> welcome back to politics nation. let's bring in my political panel to discuss today's top news stories. joining me now is former democratic senator doug jones, democrat of alabama, and david jolly, former republican congressman from florida. thanks for joining us, doug. let's
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start with the breaking news from nbc's vaughn hillyard. president trump is planning a more than 50 executive orders on inauguration day. he is reportedly planning to sign several of those orders in front of a crowd at capital one arena tomorrow afternoon. instead of an inaugural parade. among the orders are a change to federal workforce laws or workforce rules, a repeal of biden's era, the biden era green energy funding and a declaration of emergency at the border. how effective do you expect these to be? given what we know about how trump used executive actions in his first term? >> well, you know, there's a couple of things about this. first of all, this is a lot of show. donald trump, you give him credit for being a showman. >> he has said he was going to do these things. >> he's going to make a big
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splash out of it. people are going to talk about it, and they're going to talk about the sheer numbers 50. it's going to be a big deal. now, effectively, some of them can go into effect pretty soon, but count on the fact there's going to be immediate lawsuits filed by any number of different groups to try to block a lot of this. some of this is very, very has been in courts before. the impoundment issue has been in courts before. the immigration issue has been in courts before. it's interesting that he's trying to declare an emergency when the issues at the border are far less severe than they were even when he was president. so i think it remains to be seen how effective it's going to be. but the fact is, it's going to be effective for him from a political standpoint, because it's the show now. >> we will also see confirmation hearings continue on the hill for controversial picks like tulsi expected in the coming days. we've already seen pete headset, pam bondi and
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kristi noem clashing with senators during their moments in the hot seat. even with republicans 53 to 47 having the edge in the senate, they can only afford to lose a handful of votes to get these picks through. david, considering what we've seen so far, do you see any republicans taking a stand against any one of these nominees? >> i don't, and it's very unsettling to say that. i mean, there's really no mobilized opposition. there's not even people where watching, you know, we briefly watched joni ernst when it came to hegseth. but if you think of the kavanaugh hearing, there were 3 or 4 senators we were watching. >> that's not really the case here. i think with tulsi gabbard, we're watching mitch mcconnell with rfk jr. >> maybe there's a couple, but a 53 vote majority is sufficient. i think what's remarkable is we may see some party line votes for confirmations. and that is really a historic anomaly,
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particularly if pete hegseth were to have a party line vote for secdef. that that is very unsettling, and it should be unsettling for us. and i think that that brings up a very inauguration, with the ceremonies, with the balls, with the confirmation hearings. it feels familiar. it looks normal, but none of this is normal and we shouldn't treat it as normal. donald trump broke his oath to the american people. the oath he took in 2017, he broke it. he's an oath breaker. the people he nominated to these cabinet offices are unqualified. and while democrats have worked hard to kind of disqualify them, it's actually shown their qualifications. >> why is pete hegseth qualified to be secretary of defense? >> he's not. why is tulsi gabbard qualified? >> why is rfk jr qualified? nobody is trying to prove their qualifications, which is an indictment of senate republicans who have said, we're just going to give our vote to the incoming president. we don't care if his administration is qualified or not. >> now, trump's next big task
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for congress will be dealing with what he's calling his big, beautiful reconciliation bill. we're already getting reports that house republicans are considering completely eliminating state and local tax deductions, and maybe even deductions for mortgage interest. that won't sit well with republicans from high tax states like new jersey, new york, california, doug, are either trump or johnson in a position to get their party behind this? how do you expect the senate to respond as well? >> well, first of all, i think we really need to look at the house. you've got such a slim margin in the house. and it's you know, the last two years have proven that it's very, very difficult to get house republicans to really consolidate around anything. i think they will have a better opportunity with donald trump in the white house to do that. but still, we have seen so far a real lack of cohesiveness among
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everybody well enough to pass. so we'll see how that goes. but again, in the house, in the senate, if it's a reconciliation type bill, you only have to have a majority, which means that they can lose, can't lose four votes. i think the senate will be a lot easier to get exactly what they want, although there are going to be things like the mortgage interest and others. you know, senate republicans are are are pretty tough on some of those issues. so i don't think he's going to have the big, beautiful bill that he wants, at least not right off. he will claim it no matter what passes, something will pass, and it will extend the tax cuts from 2017 and other things that i think are going to hurt the middle class working class and help his billionaire buddies. >> david, we also got big news out of your home state this week with governor ron desantis tapping florida attorney ashley moody to fill senate senator
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marco rubio's seat. president elect trump's daughter in law was briefly showing interest in the seat before dropping out of consideration. also this week, ohio's governor mike dewine, picked his lieutenant governor, jon husted, to fill j.d. vance's seat. even though trump had suggested vivek ramaswamy or seek the office. what's your take on the two picks, and what do you make of these republican governors choosing to make their own appointments rather than to further rather than to defer to trump? right. >> yeah. fascinating. >> first, on the candidates themselves or the new appointees, they are down the line. maga voters who will support donald trump and his agenda, and they'll also support their home state governor. so each of them kind of provide a perfect republican pick. i think the fascinating thing, if you if you pull back the layers here a little bit, is that donald trump is a lame duck. he's a lame
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duck. and so that that changes the amount of currency he has, and it changes the amount of catering you see from dewine and desantis, particularly ron desantis in florida, who despite failing miserably in his presidential run, he has now had the opportunity to appoint a united states senator. he will appoint a new attorney general, a new chief financial officer and a majority of the supreme court. he has reshaped florida politics. he's now won the state by double digits, which which nobody has done. and even though he failed his last run miserably, it is a blank slate in 28 for republicans. donald trump is a lame duck who will be 78, the oldest president being sworn in ever in our history. and so, you see, desantis and others think i can make decisions now for my own political future. i really don't have to bow to donald trump. i think that's a fascinating subtext here. i don't know that ron desantis can ever reach the white house, but he's got a second shot in 28. and i think what he showed us during this, this appointment process is he's willing to go against donald trump because donald trump
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himself is a lame duck. >> former lawmakers doug jones and dave jolly, thank you both for being with us. up next, i'm headed to washington, d.c. tomorrow, but not for the inauguration. my final thoughts inauguration. my final thoughts next. if you have wet amd, you never want to lose sight of the things you love. some things should stand the test of time. long-lasting eylea hd could significantly improve your vision. more people on eylea hd had no fluid in the retina compared to those on eylea at 4 months. eylea hd is the only wet amd therapy that helped 8 out of 10 people go up to 4 months between injections after 3 initial monthly treatments. if you have an eye infection, eye pain or redness, or allergies to eylea hd, don't use. eye injections like eylea hd may cause eye infection, separation of the retina, or rare but severe swelling of blood vessels in the eye. an increase in eye pressure has been seen.
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day, followed by analysis from our primetime anchors as the new term begins tomorrow, beginning at 6:00 on msnbc. when you need brutal honesty, when you need answers first thing in the morning, when you need to go deep inside washington and hear from someone who's been there, you need your morning joe weekdays at 6:00 only on msnbc. >> for the first hundred days of this new administration, i am going to be here on msnbc at 9 p.m. eastern five nights a week, monday through friday. we will watch what they do and not just what they say from now on. and for the first hundred days and for the duration. but what they are saying thus far, and what they are doing thus far, have both been utterly shambolic. and none of us should be afraid to say so. and none of us here are so for these first hundred days, you and i, we are going to spend a lot of time together. >> earlier today, in my capacity as founder and president of the
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national action network, i delivered a sermon at the historic abyssinian baptist church in harlem, new york. the church is full of memories for me. i used to go to services there as a teenager to hear adam clayton powell preach. the congressional legend became my personal hero while he served in the house of representatives as doctor, martin luther king junior advanced the civil rights act of 1964 and the voting rights act a year later. adam clayton powell inspired me from the pulpit to dedicate my life for the fight for civil rights. and so it's only fitting that while tomorrow, during the inauguration of a new president, we will be at a different part of washington, d.c, and will send a message that doctor king's dream is not gone. but it is far from realized. doctor king died fighting for economic justice, and it is therefore crucial in this moment. we focus our energy on using our dollars
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to protect diversity, equity and inclusion. our rally will take place at 11 a.m. at the historic metropolitan ame church in washington, dc. i hope you can join me. that does it for us. a quick reminder that tomorrow is a big day of coverage here at msnbc. with the inauguration of president elect donald trump and the martin luther king jr. holiday. morning joe kicks off with inauguration coverage starting at 6 a.m. eastern for all four hours. i'll be joining them starting at 9 a.m, then at 10 a.m, rachel maddow and team will bring you key moments of the day, followed by analysis from primetime anchors throughout the evening. and i'll be here next weekend at 5 p.m. eastern for more editions. live editions of politics nation the sunday show with jonathan cape starts
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