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i fought tooth and nail. we searched that entire summer, day and night. i even got hypnotized once to try to communicate with my mom to have her tell me where she was. i did everything i could possibly do. craig: rachael anderson had one great passion. she would have had a challenge every year if she could have. she just loved being a mom so much. craig: and with kids at home, it was extra scary when someone started stalking her. we were talking late at night. and she got real panicked, and she said, i think there's somebody outside. craig: watching her every move. knowing where she's at in her house, which lights were on. craig: making disturbing calls with a disguised voice. suddenly, rachael disappeared, and a desperate search began. jackie: you can see the vastness and all the various places that you could conceal a body. craig: months went by. the case stalled. then investigators learned that the plot
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might be bigger and darker than they ever could have guessed. this is very tantalizing thread that comes together. absolutely. whispers that rachel was the victim of something out of a hitchcock movie, a moment of pure evil. he had a look on his face that i had described as satan. craig: and just maybe a second woman in the crosshairs. dennis: if the stories were true, then you had married a stranger. exactly. hello, and welcome to dateline. the story you're about to hear begins with an all-too-familiar tragedy. a vivacious woman disappears, and police put the men in her life under a microscope. that's how this mystery started. but as detectives followed the clues, the case took a turn so diabolical it
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could have been ripped from the script of a hollywood thriller. and just maybe it was. here's dennis murphy with secrets of the snake river. dennis: in country so beautiful as the palouse, the wheat and bean fields running up and down the bumps and hollows of eastern washington as far as the eye can see, it's hard to imagine anything bad happening out here. but gaze and listen closely, and sometimes you'll uncover secrets in the shadows, murder and betrayal as close as the stranger sleeping beside you. here in the city of clarkston, a 40-year-old single mom was raising her two young sons. she also had two older daughters. [inaudible] dennis: rachael anderson was her name, just five-foot-and-a-bit. and how susie jeppson enjoyed her company. we were just friends from the get-go. she was spunky and fun, and she just loved to laugh.
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dennis: her grown daughters were out of the house. amber-- she was my hero. she was my everything. she just had a really fun spirit about her. dennis: ashley-- she raised us, gave us everything we needed, taught us everything we need to know. dennis: rachael had been married and divorced three times when, by the spring of 2009, a new man had entered the picture. she told me that she'd met somebody, they'd gone out on a date, and that she was very impressed because he wanted to have a blessing over the food that he'd eat. and she thought that was just wonderful. dennis: a publicly christian man with a notorious gangster's last name, charles capone. i asked her out for dinner, and we went to dinner. and we found each other attractive. what made you laugh about her? how she looked at life. everything is to be absorbed. everybody should have a good time. nobody should fight. dennis: rachael told her daughters about charles, how devout, kind, and handsome he was, and successful.
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he owned a busy auto repair shop up the road a ways in moscow, idaho. he did services on people's cars for no charge to help people that had the money in the community. dennis: the new couple were soon regulars at sunday worship. and charles found himself with a new business partner. she started helping me with the shop. she had that office totally changed around and working more efficiently and saving me money in just a matter of two months. dennis: rachael and charles dove headlong into a whirlwind romance. introduced in may, they eloped in november. the newlyweds made their home at rachael's place about 30 miles south of charles's auto shop. rachael's sons, six-year-old gavin and 10-year-old aiden, lived with them. we took the kids fishing. they had never been fishing before. she'd throw on camo and go hunting with you guys. dennis: but the thrill was gone not more than a month after the wedding. the couple went their separate ways. a lonely charles moved into his shop for a while until a friend offered him a place to stay.
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separated, but their lives remained curiously entwined. we're talking all the time. and we're either getting along or we're not getting along. we could have one phone call that was just enjoyable, talking about things that need to be taken care of. and then we'd have one phone call where we're just brrr, just going at each other. dennis: as winter turned to spring in 2010, rachael and charles did have something to talk about. strange, unsettling things were happening to rachael. she told her friends someone was stalking her. we were talking late at night, and she got real panicked. and she said, i think there's somebody outside. dennis: and then came a rash of disturbing phone calls, no caller id, disguised voices. she gave her friend jennifer norberg the lowdown. what kinds of things were going on with her? phone calls, distorted voices. creepy movie kind of stuff? knowing where she's at in her house, which lights were on. dennis: not just i know where you are. i know you're in the bedroom right now. mm-hm, i know what time you came home last night
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and what time you left today, and just watching her every move. dennis: charles, meanwhile, told rachael he was getting the same kind of disturbing calls. and in april, it got worse. rachael's vehicle was vandalized more than once, tires slashed, windows broken. charles volunteered to fix her car even though they were living apart. he gave her a loaner suv to drive. rachael was pretty sure who was behind all the scary nonsense-- a guy she'd gone out with a few times and had developed, she thought, an unhealthy thing about her. rachael went to the county sheriff's office and told her story to then-captain dan hally. she was extremely frightened. she believed an individual that she had dated for a couple weeks by the name of william slemp, he was the one stalking and harassing her. so when rachael left that day, what was the plan? she was going to essentially put together the information that she had.
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and then we we're going to meet again that friday. did you see her again, captain? i talked to her on the phone, but i never saw her again. dennis: not long after leaving the sheriff's office, rachael applied for a restraining order against william slemp. it was the weekend. the two boys had visitation with their dads. it wasn't until mid-morning the following monday that people began to realize that something had gone very wrong. rachael's daughter amber got a message that her mom hadn't shown up for work as a medical technician. totally unlike her. yeah, i knew immediately that it was bad. dennis: amber got word to sister ashley, and they raced to their mom's home. when there was no answer at the door, they called the police. captain hally dispatched his lead detective jackie nichols. there was several people in the front yard, rachel's daughters, and they were frantic. i searched the house looking for any types of evidence. dennis: nothing, huh? jackie: no. the last time i seen her, she said that i think
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this will end in my death. where was rachael anderson? an all-out search uncovers an ominous clue. coming up-- the vehicle was left unlocked with her purse in plain sight with the keys sitting in plain sight. dennis: what woman leaves her purse behind? it was a bad sign. craig: --when dateline continues. (vo) you were diagnosed with thyroid eye disease a long time ago. and year after year, you weathered the storm and just lived with the damage that was left behind. but even after all this time your thyroid eye disease could still change. restoration is still possible. learn how you could give your eyes a fresh start at tedhelp.com. gold bond believes touch says everything. it says... i see you.
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when she failed to turn up for her job as a medical technician that monday morning in 2010. she would have never left her children. she would not have left her sons, not for a minute, not for a day. dennis: investigators had a few bare facts to work with. they knew rachael had canceled that friday meeting with asotin county sheriff's captain dan hally about the stalking incidents. detectives could find no atm or cell phone activity since a voicemail rachel left at 8:09 friday night. that meant rachel had been off the grid nearly three days. i knew there was something very, very wrong. you'd swung into action. i had about 1,000 flyers printed at staples. dennis: monday afternoon, law enforcement pinged rachael's cell phone and got a weak echo just across the snake river from her home. we got a lot of people out into that field that night, also used a bloodhound to do a live search.
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dennis: the search was futile. early the next day, tuesday, captain hally formed a regional missing person task force. so what's on your whiteboard? what's on your agenda? is this william slemp? the former boyfriend. we went down that avenue. --other ex-boyfriends, ex-husband. --family. there had been a neighbor that lived across the street from rachael that had some suspicious behaviors. he'd asked rachel out on a date and she'd turned him down. and then he left town very abruptly. i mean, that's certainly suspect. is he involved? well, and we're checking hospitals and travel information. we tracked every bus ticket that was sold that weekend. dennis: an early lead may have come when rachael talked to sheriff's captain dan hally the week before. she told him that day she was terrified of the slemp guy messing with her. but the captain had a different stalking suspect in mind after rachel told him she was divorcing charles. so an early stop for investigators was charles's shop. so who's the guy you met? easygoing, he was very cordial.
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he was being cooperative. i didn't have anything to hide. what was i going to hide? here he comes, driving up. i was like, come on in. charles assured police he had nothing to do with the stalking or damaging of her car. you're not vandalizing the vehicle? you're not scary walking her house? absolutely not. did you slash her tires? no, absolutely not. did you break out the back windshield? no, absolutely not. dennis: in fact, charles told the cops he was helping rachel get to the bottom of the harassment. he said the estranged couple together went out looking for the obsessed ex-boyfriend to sort him out. and she tells me about him. and then we go driving over to his house, because there's a pay phone right near his house that's one of the pay phones that was making phone calls to her. you thought slemp was the stalker. i just thought he was still involved with her, because he had this huge crush on rachael. dennis: charles went on to tell the investigators he hadn't seen rachael since friday night when she'd stopped by the garage to pick up her car. it wasn't ready. investigator: he described how she was upset because he's
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working on her car. dennis: charles said rachael then left to buy a computer. she couldn't find what she wanted but returned with a six pack. he drank a few of the beers, he said, and she left. what's the picture that's coming together for you? i'm trying to keep all options open, because i was concerned that she might have been impaired that evening and could have driven off the road. a benign kind of explanation for why she's gone missing. right. dennis: but a few hours later, that theory was doused when they located rachael's loaner suv at a convenience store that doubled as a bus station not far from her house. the vehicle was left unlocked with her purse in plain sight with the keys sitting in plain sight. dennis: what woman leaves her purse behind? it was a bad sign. dennis: and the detectives had to consider another scenario. had pretty 5-foot-4-inch rachel, 120 pounds soaking wet, offered an easy target for an abduction by a stranger unknown? while detectives were doing their official thing, rachael's loved ones were widening
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their increasingly desperate search all across the palouse. we were handing out flyers from here to colfax-- east, west, north, south. we were out every available minute. dennis: it was as though the palouse had just swallowed her up. craig: coming up-- finally, a break. police learned there was somebody else with charles capone the night rachel disappeared. but something doesn't add up. he provided a timeline for that evening, and it was different than charles capone's timeline. craig: when dateline continues-- can your pad absorb everything and stay fresh? always flexfoam can. it's the only pad made with a flexible foam core that locks in blood and sweat while the top stays dry. keeping you up to 100% leak and odor free. see what foam can do for you. dexcom g7 sends your glucose numbers to your phone and watch, so you can always see where you're heading without fingersticks.
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guests who help me take a big picture look at the issues like representative jasmine crockett, late night host seth meyers, former attorney general eric holder, and many more. why is holder, and many more. why is this happeni dennis: rachael anderson, a mother of four, had vanished. and it was the job of captain dan hally and the missing person task force to find out what had happened to her. rachael has not hopped a bus. nope. she's not in anybody's emergency room. no. that's correct. dennis: you suspect foul play. - right. absolutely. dennis: the investigators started working their way through a list of suspects, starting with the men who wanted to be in rachael's life. there was the neighbor who tried to take her out and been turned down. he had an alibi. that left the old boyfriend named slemp, the one rachael said she was afraid of. but he could account for whereabouts when rachael went missing. the former boyfriend was not playing out. correct, yeah. you had to follow all those threads. absolutely, yeah. as this threads started, we would follow them as we could.
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but charles capone was the one that never was a dead end. dennis: captain dan hally had been suspicious of charles ever since rachael stopped by to make a stalking complaint about the ex-boyfriend. but that same day, rachael had also told the captain she was in the midst of divorcing charles capone. the grounds? she said he tried to choke her. well, that was a huge red flag. captain hally advised her to get a restraining order right away against her estranged husband. rachael didn't want to hear that. she was agitated because i'm telling her, it's your soon-to-be ex. it's charles doing this, not slemp. dennis: two days later, on the friday she vanished, the captain's phone rang. she called me and she told me that she was going to see charles that night. she was going up to tell him that they were done. what did you tell her? i told her don't go. i said, he's dangerous. do not go up there. dennis: charles's account of that night was looking sketchy. and the cops' suspicions grew after charles
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decided to stop cooperating. they suggest maybe you should go downtown and have a more formal conversation. - on the 21st, that's correct. you don't do that. you don't go to the cops. no, i talked to my attorney. and he told me, he says, you know what? have them contact me if they got any more questions. you don't have to go down there. dennis: the car mechanic had a secret he knew the police would uncover. it turned out that the publicly pious pray-over-his-pancakes christian had a past rachael and her family knew nothing about, a backstory that included prison time for bank robbery and assault. but the onetime felon had apparently changed. i'm going and doing everything that a normal person does. because i always feel like, ok, i paid my debt. let me go and move on and do something good and constructive. dennis: the cops weren't so sure and were now chasing down his friends, including his good pal david stone, a married high school baseball coach and employee at the moscow, idaho maintenance department. to the investigators' astonishment, david volunteered that he'd been hanging out with charles and rachael at the garage the friday
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night she went missing. it's absolutely huge. now you've got another guy, someone with information. somebody with information that immediately raises the question, why didn't charles capone ever mention david stone to me during the entire time i interviewed him? dennis: three days after rachel was reported missing, the task force detective sat david stone down and grilled him. he provided a timeline for that evening, and it was different than charles capone's timeline. dennis: the husband's friend told the cops rachael came by the shop about 5:00 pm and waited for charles to finish her car. david stone says he then left to get some food at an a&w. and when he got back to the garage around 8:00, rachael was gone. stone said he drove charles to a local bar, swung by his home for a while, then went out later to pick up charles at the bar. many of the investigators knew david stone and his wife alisa. she worked in moscow city hall as a grants writer. who was your dave, personality, character? yeah, someone that was very caring,
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was a really good stepdad. he was on the volunteer fire department. charles capone, were they friends? yes, yes. did you know rachael? i knew her only from church. dennis: alisa knew her husband was at the garage that friday night and said nothing seemed amiss. what did he say was going on there? he said he dropped charles off at mingles and that there had been some interaction with rachael that wasn't happy. and charles said he wanted to have a drink. and so he dropped him off. and he was going to go back and pick him up, and he'd be home. dennis: intriguing, perhaps. but the two friends' mismatched stories did nothing to advance the cops' case. dispatcher: 357-- dennis: with rachael still missing, there was no evidence an actual crime had even occurred. all they had were their suspicions about david stone and charles capone. so now you've got two different versions of friday night. different versions, they were supposedly together, but they're telling two different stories. dennis: tangled somewhere in the differing accounts, the cops thought, there must be a buried clue about what had happened to rachael. meantime, her heartbroken daughters
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did what they could to fill the awful hours, organizing searches, building a web page, and pressuring the police. their mom meant so much to them. and they did not want this to just become another cold case. dennis: the investigation was heading that way until the detectives revisited an early lead, a nefarious scheme if true. hard to believe that something as evil as that could happen in the palouse. this is a very tantalizing thread that comes together. this is the stuff of the movies. absolutely. craig: coming up, police realize another woman may also be a target. we wanted her to know that she was potentially in danger herself. when dateline continues. with dupixent, stay ahead of moderate-to-severe eczema. as you welcome the feeling of touch with clearer skin and less itch. the #1 prescribed biologic by dermatologists and allergists, helps heal your skin from within. severe allergic reactions can occur.
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mr. trump is expected to begin his second term by signing more than 50 executive orders on a wide range of issues. the events will be held inside due to poor weather in washington. in fact, the nation's capital just one of many cities across the country threatened by cold and snow. monday, up to eight inches of snow estimated for many parts of snow estimated for many parts of the northeast welcome back to dateline. i'm craig melvin. rachael anderson was missing. her husband charles capone and his friend david stone told police they were with her the night she vanished. but the timelines they provided did not match, making investigators suspicious. now, a third man was about to start talking. and what he had to say was explosive. here again is dennis murphy with secrets of the snake river. the high and low search across the eerily beautiful palouse
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country for any trace of rachael anderson was turning up nothing. months after her disappearance, detectives were convinced they had identified their prime persons of interest, rachel's estranged husband charles and his churchgoing buddy david stone. but the investigation had stalled and was at an apparent dead end. no secret what the biggest obstacle was for lead investigators captain dan hally and detective jackie nichols. it's an axiom in law enforcement-- no body, no crime. that's the challenge. at this point, we don't even know for sure that we have a death. we believe that in our gut. dennis: as the cops dug deeper into the background of the husband's friend david stone, the case suddenly became way more complex. a mind blowing theory-- maybe this wasn't just about one wife, rachael. maybe it was about two. the investigation had led them to the city maintenance yard where stone worked. a fellow employee there had related a conversation he'd had
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with david stone a while back. it surfaces that there had been some conversations between david stone and this individual about a plan to kill stone's wife for $10,000. dennis: then stone, the story went, came back some time later and told the maintenance yard guy to forget they talked. he'd arranged a plan b for murder. and later, that deal was canceled, because stone had reached an agreement with charles capone that they would kill each other's wives. i'll kill your wife if you will kill mine. this is the stuff of the movies. right. it is, absolutely. dennis: to be specific, a 1950 alfred hitchcock thriller titled strangers on a train. in the movie, two strangers each agreed to commit a murder for the other. did capone and stone each agree to do in the other's wife? could that be? do you believe it? i think there was something to it. yep, i definitely do. mrs. stone is alive and well and among us. did you talk to her?
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yes, we did. boy, what a table conversation, huh? yeah, we wanted her to-- cops are telling me that you're trying to kill me, and-- we wanted her to know that she was potentially in danger herself. you get some devastating news. but you continued to share a house with him, huh? i did. i remember many times when i would question david and say something's not right. dennis: david stone was able to convince alisa that the cops had dreamed up the murder plot story as a way to put pressure on him to turn against his friend. and putting pressure on that friend charles capone is what happened next. he'd been found in possession of a gun, a big no-no for a former felon. capone was placed in the county jail while awaiting federal charges on a firearm violation. in a cell, the visiting detectives had his full attention. and i get this interesting visit from dan hally and jackie nichols. and i essentially opened it up with, today, charles, you're going to tell me you killed rachael and where her body is. and his response was, well, you only got one of those right.
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but i didn't kill her. dennis: if charles didn't kill her, who did? the investigators landed hard on david stone, the only other person known to have been with rachael that night. and we confront him with, stone, we know you got blood on your hands. his response was he just sat back, and he said, oh, i need a drink of water. never denied it. but that's when then he wanted his attorney after that. dennis: with no reason to hold him, david stone was free to go home to wife alisa, the woman cops feared he wanted dead. but not charles, he was about to be put on ice. five months after rachel disappeared, he pleaded guilty to the federal firearms charge and was sentenced to almost three years. so capone wasn't going anywhere. but still, the task force investigation focused on him and stone appeared to be at a dead end. the missing woman's daughters were in limbo, too. it just went on for years, years of one nightmare. dennis: as happens, rachael became old news,
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and the case receded from the headlines. fresh cases demanded the attention of detective jackie nichols. no problem, she took to looking for rachael on her days off. as you look around here, you can see the vastness of the countryside here and all the various places that you could conceal a body. you've been going up in the mountains, [inaudible], and gorges. the mountains, ravines, we even did some searches based on psychic visions and dreams. oh, really? rachael's family, at as much of a dead end as the cops, also turned desperately to the supernatural. we did some pretty extreme things to find her. i even got hypnotized once to try to communicate with my mom not alive to have her to tell me where she was. dennis: the hunt for the slightest trace of rachael continued for years. meanwhile, david stone was on the street. and by 2013, his fellow suspect, buddy charles capone, was about to be released from jail. i said, now is the time. we have to charge these guys.
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we have to charge them both. this case wasn't going to get any better. the idaho latah county prosecutor agreed. and on may day 2013, three years after rachael vanished, david stone and charles capone were charged with her murder. they pleaded not guilty. judge: everyone please rise. dennis: in the preliminary hearing, prosecutors laid out their theory of the crime, producing that maintenance yard worker who told the story about charles and david's alleged "you kill my wife, i'll kill yours" plan. stone's wife alisa hung on every word. frightening connections were being made in her head. and with that came the sudden awful awareness that the sheriff's officers may have been right after all-- her husband did want her dead. she immediately filed for divorce. the pieces all came together for me. dennis: and there's this account of him going to a co-worker and saying, i'll give you $10,000 if you'll kill my wife, you.
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what do you think of that story, that he was soliciting someone to kill you? yeah, i'll never know. this is beyond marital deceit. oh, yeah. if the stories were true, then you had married a stranger. exactly. who is dave stone? it's a mystery to me at this point. some of the things that came up in that preliminary hearing, i look like a monster, and i'm not. craig: coming up-- david stone tells a chilling tale of what he says happened the night rachael disappeared. i said, what the [bleep] you doing? and he looked at me, had a look on his face that i had described as satan. craig: --when dateline continues. have you always had trouble with your weight? same. discover the power of wegovy®. with wegovy®, i lost 35 pounds. and some lost over 46 pounds. and i'm keeping the weight off.
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ad free. subscribe on apple podcasts. stay up to date on the biggest issues of the day with the msnbc daily newsletter. sign the msnbc daily newsletter. sign up for msnbc dennis: almost four years after that weekend rachael anderson never came home, her family believed they might finally get some answers. police had arrested her estranged husband charles capone and his pal david stone in connection with her death. but in september 2014, it was only charles capone in the latah county courthouse facing a murder charge. we are convinced that you will find the only possible verdict, finding the defendant charles capone guilty of first degree murder. dennis: as the trial opened, the state's case had zigzagged another unpredicted turn. the maintenance yard worker had backpedaled on his murder-for-hire story and wouldn't testify to it. so now the jurors wouldn't hear of the juicy "you kill my wife,
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i'll kill yours" plot, but rather a straightforward and nonetheless terrifying story of a lousy marriage turned failing. county prosecuting attorney bill thompson and then-deputy prosecuting attorney mia vowels knew they had their work cut out for them. our approach was, convince the jury through the evidence not only that rachel was dead, but there's only one person in this world who could have been responsible for it, and that's charles capone. what was the biggest hill to climb in this? because we didn't have a body, it was mostly a circumstantial case. dennis: mia vowels took the lead and called a parade of witnesses to convince the jury that rachael was indeed dead. her ex-husband dennis plunkett had missed a call from her at 8:09 that friday night. and that was the last contact i ever had with her. dennis: rachael two sons testified they'd never seen their mother again after that friday. mia: have you seen your mom since? no. dennis: to show jurors just how nasty charles and rachael's
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divorce was, they played back some of those eerie stalking phone calls. i'm very concerned for her safety and well-being. dennis: captain dan hally testified that the defendant had been behind those head game calls all along. capone even admitted as much to him. he told me that he had been involved in the stalking and harassment. yeah, i know she is afraid because-- dennis: ashley and amber, the daughters, recounted the terror of their mom's ordeal. she had the feeling like her life was going to end, a dreadful feeling. dennis: the prosecutors zeroed in on charles's character. jennifer norberg recalled what her friend's neck looked like after charles allegedly attacked rachael four months before she disappeared. i observed that she had some red dark colored marks on her neck. dennis: then prosecutors produced a business neighbor, an actual eyewitness who saw charles arguing with a woman outside his auto shop that fatal night.
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she jumped out of the car flailing her arms right up into his face. judge: raise your right hand to be sworn, please. female voice: you do solemnly swear-- dennis: so far, the testimony was all appetizers before the prosecutor's main course, their head-snapping all-or-nothing star witness, none other than charles's good buddy david stone. no longer a codefendant for murder-- --david stone-- dennis: --now the man pointing the accusing finger. s-t-o-n-e. dennis: stone's journey to the witness stand began a year earlier during that preliminary hearing when capone whispered something to him. charles leaned over to me and said, you shouldn't even be here. and i thought, how right you are, you son of a bitch. dennis: a shaken stone listened to the state's mounting case against him and decided he wasn't going to take the fall for charles. the prosecution did a real good job in making me out to be a monster, and i'm not. they told you something like, we know there's
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blood on your hands here, huh? well, that was probably one of the thing that they said. in cop talk, they flipped you. they flipped you against him. they had nothing-- they were going to give you some consideration in exchange for story. the cops had nothing to do with me telling the story. dennis: stone says there was no deal with the cops. rather, his pastor convinced him to come clean. throughout numerous visits, we prayed in closing prayer that the truth would set me free. dennis: maybe so, but the prosecution counted on his testimony to put his former friend away for a long, long time. male voice: do you know the defendant, charles capone? i do. he's sitting next to mr. monson. dennis: once on the stand, stone set off on his tale about the events of friday, april 16, 2010. i was inside the shop and i had heard a noise. male voice: what kind of noise? kind of a thud or a bang or just something kind of loud. dennis: when he looked outside, a struggle. when i came around closer toward the back side
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of rachael's car, rachael was on her back and charles, he was on the top of her strangling her. was rachael moving? very little. male voice: what did you say? i said, what the [bleep] are you doing? and he turned around. he looked at me, had a look on his face that i had described as satan. and he told me to shut the [bleep] up, get a hold of myself. you're in this with me now. i know where your family's at. male voice: why didn't you intervene at this point? fear. male voice: what were you afraid of? i'm just-- i'm watching somebody kill his wife. i don't know what he's going to do to me. dennis: the two men moved rachael's body into the shop. david stone testified they ditched the loaner vehicle rachael was driving at the convenience store bus depot near her home and then returned to stone's garage.
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after that, stone said he went to his job site and rounded up some old truck tire snow chains like these. they wrapped up rachael's body. once we placed rachael across the chain, we rolled her also in the chain. dennis: then he said the two put rachael's trussed-up, weighted-down body into his suv. with david stone at the wheel, they drove south and onto the red wolf bridge over the snake river. he just said, stop. i put the durango on park, got out, opened the hatch. we pulled rachael out, went to the side of the bridge, threw her over the side. dennis: prosecutors interrupted stone's narrative to play for jurors a recording made at the bridge. he was pulling the package out and i assisted him. and we proceeded to the side of the [inaudible] here and threw the package over the side. what was in the package? the body of rachael anderson. dennis: into the fast-moving river never to be seen again.
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what would the jury make of this man giving them such critical evidence, the play-by-play of the crime itself? you know they're going to hate this guy. that's the reality of the case. did it matter whether the jury sat in moral judgment on your star witness, mia? no. they won't like that he didn't intervene and that he helped dispose of her body. but that doesn't change the fact that he witnessed what he did. dennis: as the state rested, it looked ironically as though its star witness would prove to be the best thing the defense had going for it. him. david stone, would the jury believe a word he said? craig: coming up-- the other man at the center of this case, charles capone, takes the tough questions from us. this whole thread of this thing, i'll kill your wife if you'll kill mine, did that happen? craig: --when dateline continues. if you take or have taken humira
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is believed to have happened by the authorities on that friday night. his attorney's strategy was threefold-- discredit the buddy's damning eyewitness testimony, sow reasonable doubt about the state's evidence, and offer alternate suspects. right off the bat, they suggested to the jury that there was another person who just might have had a hand in rachael's disappearance, maybe that infatuated onetime boyfriend, william slemp. slemp died before the case came to trial. yes. dennis: so the defense attorney asked daughter amber what she knew about him. did you also in your conversations with your mother consider another person as being [inaudible]? yes. and is that william slemp? yes. dennis: and was the boyfriend perceived as a menace? the defense produced a request for a restraining order against slemp that rachael had filled out. during cross-examination, the defense got detective jackie nichols to concede another connection between rachael and slemp. --but i recall seeing letters from william slemp.
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dennis: after seeding the thought with jurors that maybe someone other than capone did it, the defense team turned its sights on the cops, all the things they hadn't found in their investigation. for starters, there was no physical evidence recovered at charles's garage. male voice: you didn't see any signs of a struggle outside? that's correct. dennis: and when cops recovered rachael's vehicle, there were fingerprints, but not capone's. they didn't match anybody that was in the system. dennis: but attacking the evidence wouldn't be enough. everyone may be seated-- dennis: justice for the prosecution, the defense case lived or died on the credibility of david stone. during a grueling day-long cross-examination, charles's lawyer attacked david stone's veracity and his motives. i do. dennis: david claimed he helped dispose of rachael's body and then kept quiet all those years because he was in fear of his life from charles. and yet they continued to pal around. male voice: why did you keep that contact everyday? well, i'd kind of like to know where someone's at if i'm concerned about my safety.
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dennis: capone's lawyer suggested that david stone was only out to save his own neck. male voice: and were you hoping for some leniency? --and still am. dennis: hour after hour, the lawyer hammered away at david, who'd easily admitted to lying his way through any number of police interviews. did you feel your words might not be real good? i mean, based on the fact that i've been lying for 3 and 1/2 years, wouldn't you? dennis: in the defense close, it came back again to a central question. could the jury believe david stone? at the end of the day, what stone is telling you, it can't be true. there's no physical evidence of any foul play anywhere at or near that shop. dennis: charles capone declined to testify in his own defense. male voice: and do you feel comfortable in that decision? yes, sir, i do. dennis: prosecutor bill thompson had the final word for the state. rachael's gone forever. be ensured that her body, her physical essence, is also gone forever.
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but we can't let that allow him to escape responsibility. dennis: after seven days of testimony, the case went to the jury. let me ask you that cut-to-the-chase question. on friday night at the garage, did you get her down on the ground? did you throttle your wife and kill her? i can tell you honestly no. it's a lie. it's been portrayed as stuff that absolutely didn't take place. i've done many things, you know, that i'm not proud of. you know, i paid my dues, moved on. you know, try to do-- try to be a better person. this whole thread of this thing-- i'll kill your wife if you'll kill mine-- did that happen? i can't answer that for you right now. you can't answer it. i can't. dennis: capone says he's made mistakes along the way but did not kill rachael. i don't have that in me. i don't have-- i want to care about people. i want to love on people. i don't want to-- i don't want to take somebody's life. you know, one officer, she says i'm a sociopath, and i have no heart, and i don't care, and i haven't suffered from this. yeah, ok. are you a sociopath? no, i don't believe so. i've seen my share of psychologists and stuff
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like that. and i think i'm pretty normal, i mean, i think, like most men. i just make poor decisions. charles was on top of rachael strangling her. why does he tell the story in court that he does? because he sinks you. because he's going to get charged with solicitation for murder. how much time was he going to do for trying to hire someone to kill his wife? you know, wouldn't you try to get out of that? dennis: it took the jurors nine hours to decide whether they believed david stone's story. there was a verdict. rachael's family and friends were called back to the courthouse. female voice: when the jury came in and we stood there, it seemed like for an eternity. male voice: and madam clerk, if you would read the verdict of the jury. you know, our hearts were pounding. is the defendant charles anthony capone guilty or not guilty of murder in the first degree? dennis: the court read the jury's verdict. female voice: guilty. it was like this weight just was lifted from everyone. dennis: rachael's daughters had waited 4 and 1/2 years for this day. so you hear the words, huh?
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it's just bittersweet. you're not getting your mom back-- no. dennis: --at the end of this. all of this is protecting other women and children from being harmed by him. dennis: charles capone was sentenced to life without parole in february 2015. david stone, who pleaded guilty solely to failure to notify authorities of a death, served three years behind bars. he was released july of 2016. i want to apologize to rachael's family. dennis: when we spoke with stone, he expressed remorse for what he had done. it's a day that i think about every day, and i will the rest of my life. if i could change it, i damn sure would. why didn't you go get your phone and call 9-1-1? you knew you had just witnessed a murder. i'm-- and all the way up to that point, i thought he was my friend. did you solicit a hit on your wife?
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never. dennis: did you want her dead in those days? no. so where does this story come from? that's a good question. dennis: david stone's former wife alisa still doesn't know for sure if he wanted her dead. i bet there are very few people on earth that could put themselves in your shoes and even understand what you've been through, alisa. you know, i've been through a lot, but nothing compared to what rachael's family's been through. i don't think my pain's comparable to what her daughters and sons have been through at all. dennis: ever since the day in november 2013 when david stone gave his horrific tale to the cops, there have been intensive searches made of the snake river below the red wolf bridge. captain dan hally enlisted multiple agencies, including the coast guard and volunteers with specialized sonar, to help. but the depths of the swift-moving snake have yet to surrender rachael's body. is she gone forever? i know we're not going to give up. hopefully we might still find her remains.
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dennis: for the justice system, it's case closed. but for those rachael left behind-- you know, there's no true justice. it doesn't bring her back. is there a new chapter opening up for you, amber? it's just begun. because when i found out my mom was missing, i fought tooth and nail. so did ashley. that's what we did. and so at this point, it feels like the fight is over. the grieving process for me has just begun because there's nothing left to fight for. that's all for this edition of dateline. i'm craig melvin. thank you for watching. . i'm craig melvin. and i'm natalie morales. and this is "dateline." we're all shells of people walking around.
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