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to seat the president's cabinet. >> after a late night unanimous vote to confirm marco rubio as secretary of state. good morning. >> it's ten eastern, 7 a.m. pacific. great to have you with us. >> i'm ana cabrera reporting from washington on president trump's first full day back in the oval office. he's not taking his foot off the gas. a few hours from now, he'll meet with republican house and senate leaders. he's also expected to deliver remarks at the white house today. and this follows dozens of day one executive orders and actions, many of them controversial, ranging from energy policy to gender to tiktok pulling the u.s. out of international agreements and renaming international waters and ending constitutionally mandated birthright citizenship. but one of trump's most controversial day one actions was a blanket pardon of january

6th capitol rioters. >> he wiped the slate clean for approximately 1500 people, including hundreds who face charges for violent crimes that day, and the leaders of far right groups who were convicted of sedition. nbc's kelly o'donnell joins us from the white house. also with us, msnbc contributor paola ramos. >> politico white house correspondent eugene daniels and washington bureau chief for black press usa april ryan. >> it's great to have you all with us. >> kelly. >> first, what's on this agenda for the president's first meeting with congressional leaders? >> well, certainly, the president wants to talk about moving some of his policy ideas into legislation now. >> and we've seen already in the initial sort of celebratory responses related to the inauguration, a lot of support from republicans. >> now it's about the work. and he's got speaker johnson, who, of course, has been an ally leader thune in the senate, who has also said they will work

together to get the agenda done. >> so it has to do with a whole range of issues, keeping the tax cuts that he passed originally that are set to expire, working on that, trying to get what the president likes to call one big, beautiful bill that would launch a lot of his early agenda items. also, we'll be looking to see just some of the initial reactions of this. >> moving from the campaign phase is now long over. the transition is over now. >> it is actually the second term of this president, separated by a period of years, but a chance to try to get some things accomplished that he promised voters he would do, and a limited window of time to do it. >> the honeymoon for a new president is always a time of intense activity, when there's political will to support his agenda, and then at some point, the realities of washington and the politics certainly can get in the way. so this is about trying to get a quick start, and we expect the president to continue this blizzard of

activity. >> kelly, let's turn to this decision the president made to pardon all january 6th offenders. >> was there even consideration about potentially excluding those who committed violence against police? >> well, we are still going through the specifics to find out the area where the president has said he has commuted some sentences to time served and then broad pardons and trying to get an understanding of how that decision was made, because the president himself had talked about wanting to pardon these defendants, he called them hostages. there's a lot of dispute about the use of that term. but did he do any reflection on the specific cases? and that's part of what we want to hear more from him. we notably heard from people in his administration, vice president vance, saying that he expected that donald trump would not want to support those who committed dangerous, violent acts against police officers, for example. and so clearly, that is included in some of

those who've been pardoned. also, pam bondi, who is in the process to become the next attorney general, had also separated that there could be some who could receive pardon forgiveness for these crimes and others who would have to be viewed really more carefully based on the nature of what they were convicted of. this was such a sweeping investigation for the department of justice, and trying to understand more about what the president has said. and today on on the today program, new secretary of state marco rubio was asked about this. and now, of course, as a senator, he would frequently talk about domestic politics. now he is the chief diplomat of this administration, and he wanted to draw a line. when pressed on this issue of the impact of these pardons, i'm not going to engage in domestic political debates. >> i can't at the in the role at the state department, my job is to focus on the president's foreign policy. i think it's unfortunate. you know, our first engagement, as i agree to come on this morning with you, i'm

going to be working on foreign policy issues, and you want to revisit these issues that are going on in domestic politics. i'm just it's not going to happen. >> one of the questions, though, is how does the world judge the action of the president giving these sweeping pardons to people who were attacking democracy, attacking the seat of american power at a time when an election was at stake, and they were trying to overturn that. and that can have implications around the world. >> ana kelly, thanks. and so, paula, you were at a january 6th watch party yesterday and you spoke to proud boys leader enrique tarrio. >> mother. just a reminder for our viewers that tarrio was convicted of sedition. >> he had been sentenced to the longest sentence of all 22 years, compared to others who had been convicted. >> tell us about that conversation and what else happened at this this watch party? >> yes. so to give you some context, i'm talking to you right now from versailles. so

cafe versailles is this place is in the heart of miami dade county, in a neighborhood called little havana. now, this neighborhood is exactly where enrique tarrio grew up. not too far from where i'm talking to you. and in just a couple of hours, according to his family, at 6:30 p.m, enrique tarrio will be taking a flight, a southwest flight, and will be landing right here in miami. i think in a couple of hours you can expect to see some type of party right here in versailles. but less than 24 hours ago, as you mentioned, ana, i was at a january 6th party and watch party. that party was organized by gabriel garcia. gabriel garcia is one of enrique dario's friends, and he is also the son of cuban immigrants. he's a veteran. he's a proud boy. he. gabriel garcia is someone that was sentenced to one year in prison due to his actions on january 6th and at 7:30 p.m. yesterday, we saw him in cutting off his court ordered ankle bracelet that he was having there. it was a sort of a celebration of the moment. and at that watch party that you can see right there, that's where i

had the opportunity to talk to enrique dario's mom, and this is what she told me. he also knew that president trump is going to do the correct thing. >> so he has a lot of faith, and he still believes in our justice system and in our constitution. >> i think president trump told people to go to the capitol peacefully and manifest peacefully. >> what happened after that, between one point a and point b is a whole different issue. >> so you don't blame i don't. >> absolutely not. i think we're we're responsible for our own actions. >> enrique dario's mom doesn't blame him. no one here that is with the proud boys blames him. president trump. and so the question is, what does all of this mean in a place like miami-dade county that saw the very vivid rise of the proud boys, that saw the rise of someone like enrique tarrio, going from just an ordinary cuban-american person that was in the streets into one of the most powerful and dangerous people in american politics. >> well, i have to wonder, what

could these pardons do for recruiting for organizations like the proud boys or other far right groups? >> i think that is the question, but but perhaps this may give us some insight. right after that watch party that we saw on our screen, gabriel garcia, who was cutting off that ankle bracelet, drove over four hours to the coleman and federal prison, and there he was waiting for the release of over 12th january, six rioters. and in that video, when you can see him now, what we're seeing on the screen. but there's a video that he showed us this morning where he calls his january 6th, his fellow january 6th rioters. he says, these are heroes. now. let them out. there you go. we can hear them there. let's go. >> yeah. >> so interesting to see those reactions will obviously have a lot to follow today in terms of what is next for some of these

january 6th convicted rioters now pardoned, and obviously what it means for the department of justice moving forward. paolo di ramos, thank you so much for your reporting. really appreciate it. april, i spoke to a number of trump supporters yesterday. i was at capital one arena during the inauguration, and i asked them ahead of trump actually issuing this broad 1500 plus pardon if they thought people who had been convicted of violent crimes for their actions that day should be pardoned. and here's what they said. >> here's the deal. >> if you did violence on january 6th, then you should be held accountable for doing violence. >> but if the police invited you into the capitol and you followed the police into the capitol, and you were peaceful and you went to jail, you should be pardoned. you should be freed, and the government should be held accountable for what they did. >> no, if you did, if you were violent, i don't care whether or

not you were republican or democrat or independent, whoever. >> we should all have one justice system. >> no one is above the law. >> even the recent polling shows solid majorities disapprove of january 6th pardons. >> we heard jd vance, vice president vance, a few days ago saying violent january 6th offenders shouldn't be pardoned. >> so, april, are you surprised president trump went this far? what's the calculation? >> well, the answer is simple, and i'm not surprised because this was a campaign promise that he fulfilled. and one thing that i've learned about donald trump and all of us have learned, and some of us haven't taken it in and engaged with it and embraced it. but when he says something, he means it. it was heartening to see those that you talked to yesterday say that, you know, no one is above the law, that if there was violence, you should pay. but this president, he did what he did.

>> and at the end of the day, we saw just blocks from where we're sitting right now, people with bear spray, ax picks, i mean maps, even to find the spaces and places where james clyburn's office was, nancy pelosi's office and others, if they would have touched a hair on any of the congressional leaders head, we would not be sitting here today. >> and that's the end of the story. >> but donald trump fulfilled a campaign promise. >> and what he's saying is, again, the election was stolen from me. >> then he can't let that go. >> now he's talking about 2020 even in these first 24 hours. as he returns to the white house, he also trump pulled out of the paris climate agreement. he pulled out of the world health organization. >> he pushed back the tiktok ban. >> he's been making a blatant play to override the constitution by ending birthright citizenship. eugene, what do you make of all these actions he prioritized for day one?

>> yeah, april's right that these are promises made, promises kept for donald trump. but these are things that he said he was going to do. he signaled or he said and was very explicit. >> also on the january 6th, the pardons and whether or not folks that you even you talked to yesterday will change their mind. what we've seen with donald trump and his supporters is that they are very much going to seem to follow him when he changes his mind on something. >> so even though there was a signal that the violent folks weren't going to get pardons, they did. >> and so now i would be very interested to see the polling over the next couple of weeks and few weeks to see how that has shifted and whether or not the people who said that those violent folks should not have gotten pardons have changed their tune because they have, because donald trump says they should have. >> but on the other executive orders, executive orders are also always kind of a political signal. right. i hear you. >> the things that i said i was going to do, i'm not waiting on congress to make these things happen. >> donald trump fully

understands the kind of marketing and pr and bully pulpit of the presidency in a way that others haven't. >> and i think some of these things birthright citizenship at the top of that list, he is daring folks to sue them. >> he is daring, you know, the supreme court to take it up, as they have in the past and kind of solidify that this is a constitutional right. >> he is daring that to happen. he is pushing and i you know, i've talked to folks who've been in touch with now d.o.j. trump officials, and they say that those folks are going in both these ios and other legal aspects about thinking of how to stretch the limits and go to the edges of where they can. >> that is something that has been been made very clear. i think this is a perfect example of them doing something like that. when you talk to folks who like donald trump, even if, you know, the supreme court says you can't get rid of birthright citizenship with an executive order, what they like about it is that he he tried and he's testing and pushing and sometimes like it came with the immunity that he received.

>> a lot of folks in the legal community said there's no way the supreme court would take this up and give the president some type of sweeping immunity that would end up not being true. >> so the testing of it sometimes gets him and his supporters exactly what they want. >> we're also seeing such a contrast already of what we saw on trump term one and trump term two here. april. i remember back on inauguration day in 2017, he signed one executive order that day. it had something to do with obamacare. yeah. yesterday, term two, he signed 26 executive orders. he had 20 executive actions as well. and some of the stuff he was signing in front of that big crowd at the arena. so he wanted to really highlight what he was doing for them. what does it tell you about his approach to this second term? >> he wants to look more presidential, and he's making it clear who his friends are and who his enemies are. his friends are those who supported him. he's giving them everything he promised and that they loved

those who he is against. he's against the prior democratic administrations, from obama to biden. but also think about this. he's also we're waiting to hear what he's going to do with those now american oligarchs, right. >> all of those who sat there. so let's see what those executive orders are. >> and lastly, on the executive orders and the signing, you're talking about the tech ceos. >> yeah, the tech ceos. yes. i'm sorry, but i can't help but watch senator amy klobuchar and her angst while donald trump was signing those executive orders that are now standing in america, job freezes. >> he has executive orders that are now allowing him to build a wall without anybody in the southern border, without anybody stopping him. >> he is doing what he said he would do and what he wants to do in this moment. >> but as eugene mentioned, there will be pushback and we're already seeing some legal pushback. let's see. eugene, i want to ask you also about how

he rescinded 78 executive orders from the biden administration. so that was one of the actions he took, some of the things he had reversed were things that president biden had issued, executive orders that were reversals of the trump actions from his first administration. so i think it just goes to show how, i guess, short term, some of these specific orders and actions can be how much of what he did in the last 24 hours can be reversed and is just going to continue to ping pong. >> yeah, you know, executive orders and actions, the reasons that some presidents don't like them is because they aren't law, right? they, they they can be, you know, they can happen with the pen and they can be taken away with the pen. >> we saw him do that yesterday. >> joe biden did that. barack obama did that. >> everyone has done that over and over again. and so whoever is the next president, if it's a democrat, a lot of these things and also others that we will see over the next four years will probably be rescinded as well.

>> this is one of the weirder parts of, of our democracy. >> and it's something that presidents nowadays use a lot more than they have in the past. and so the back and forth and kind of the uncertainty that certain industries have when looking at what they could do and now what they can't do, that changes the way that even businesses operate in this country. so it has long standing effects. >> when the ping pong ping happens. >> eugene daniels and april ryan, i appreciate you both. thank you very much for being part of the discussion. up next, president trump is already cracking down on the border, and he already is facing new legal battles over his moves. i'll talk to a former acting ice director. plus more hearings on capitol hill right now for president trump's cabinet picks. one just got confirmed with a unanimous vote. so how tight could the votes be for defense pick pete hegseth? and later, how do democrats now navigate the next four years? do they resist or find common ground? we'll talk to democratic

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citizenship, which is enshrined in the constitution. joining us now is nbc news homeland security correspondent julia ainsley and john sandwyk. he's a former acting director of immigration and customs enforcement. so okay, julia, a lot to talk about. walk us through the scope of these new executive orders and actions certainly goes further than what we saw at the beginning of the first trump administration. >> take a travel ban, for example, and the first travel ban, there were 5 to 7 countries that trump was looking at. now he's saying any country that doesn't supply the us with adequate information, those people can't come in. >> he's taking birthright citizenship, saying not only if you're born to parents who came into this country illegally, but if your mother was here temporarily and lawfully and your father is not a us citizen or here lawfully and permanently, you are no longer a us citizen in violation of the 14th amendment. >> it also requires all undocumented immigrants to be registered and to be fingerprinted, and it calls for the end of parole programs like the cbp one app. and this program that biden used to allow

people to apply legally from their home countries. we saw a lot of immigrants just yesterday crying at the border because they were told that these asylum appointments that they had waited months for were no longer valid. so it's going very far. he's also declaring a national emergency so that he can use the military at the border, that they were pretty clear that the military will not be doing the arrest. but if they just expand detention, continue building the wall and work with state and locals, he's going to be able to get closer toward that goal of deporting the millions he's been talking about. anna. john, your reaction to this sweeping action the president just took in the last 24 hours? >> yeah. >> you know, i think we expect that a lot of these things, right? >> we expected him to deploy the military to the border. we expect him to do something on birthright citizenship. >> but like julie, i'm surprised by how far they went. >> right? this isn't just using the military that president obama deployed the national guard. >> president trump did in his first administration, where we put him in a supportive role to provide additional surveillance capacity for the border patrol.

>> he's contemplating having tasked northcom with, you know, providing him with a plan to get operational control of the border to, quote, unquote, seal the border. he calls for the department of defense to provide the secretary of homeland security with sufficient detention space necessary to end catch and release. so we're talking about building probably detention camps inside military bases with tens of thousands of immigrants detained, even on birthright citizenship. >> he didn't just limit it to the children of undocumented immigrants, he says. anyone who's here temporarily. >> so that means the child of a parent working on an h-1b visa who historically for, you know, since the founding of this country, essentially was their child would have been a united states citizen, no longer will be conferred the benefits of citizenship. >> so, julia, you mentioned the app that people had been using to try to make appointments to come in across the border, to try to follow the rules and apply for asylum that way. we talked to one migrant who had arrived in tijuana with four small children, who said she was in shock and quote, i don't know what is going to happen to us. so what happens with this app

gone now? i mean, are people still coming across the border? is there a process in place that continues? it's the end of the road for those people as we know it. the path that the biden administration carved out allowed people to make an appointment through this app. >> it took a long time to figure out the kinks, but by and large, it had been working for the past year. >> and since they started those legal pathways, they saw a huge decrease in the number of people who were showing up and trying to cross the border illegally to claim asylum, because they only allowed people to claim asylum that way. but i have to say there is already a legal challenge. we saw the aclu just last night call for an emergency hearing here in a federal court in d.c, saying that they can no longer say that the biden the trump administration cannot argue that there's any way to claim asylum, because if you shut down this asylum, as you know, it becomes completely obliterated at the border, and they're going to challenge that as well as birthright citizenship. so even though right now we're looking at a lot, it's very big in scope, could radically change the way we do immigration in this

country. there are legal challenges and there are some extreme logistical challenges to carrying out these orders. also, if you look back at the first trump administration, those orders in the beginning promised a lot of things like ending catch and release that didn't materialize. so now it's our job to look at what actually happens and see what happens at the border and with people living in this country. yeah. and john, you mentioned some of those logistical challenges in order to scale up at such a large level, all of these things. that is in the plan and in the works. when we talk about mass deportations, which was probably promised numero uno from donald trump on the campaign trail, we haven't had reporting yet of a big raid taking place. although, julia, you are reporting that perhaps chicago could see something as soon as today. what are you watching for? >> you know, i have always been skeptical that they could pull off anything close to what they've described as it relates to mass deportations, there are two big logistical hurdles they need to overcome. >> one is the detention capacity, and two is the

backlogs in the immigration courts. >> i don't think most people understand that of the 11 million migrants living in this country, the majority of them cannot be removed from the country unless and until an immigration judge orders them, issues them a final order of removal. but trump did two things yesterday that make me think maybe, you know, to provide a subject to those legal challenges that julie is talking about. >> there's a chance here that he could pull something off that looks a lot like mass deportation. >> and one is, he says, clearly he's going to invoke the alien enemies act. >> he repeatedly calls the situation at the border an invasion, which is the, you know, in his mind, the legal predicate to invoke the alien enemies act, which would allow him to, without due process, without any court involvement, detain migrants unilaterally and then deport them from the united states if it is not enjoined by a federal court. >> and then the second thing is this detention camps and military bases. ice only has 40,000 detention beds to carry out mass deportation. he would need tens of thousands more. >> he doesn't have the money for it or the time for it, but potentially building detention camps in military bases would get them around it. >> so i got to tell you, despite my skepticism, he could pull it

off. i think that i see the plan that they're doing and if they can, if they can avoid getting enjoined by the courts, there's a chance that we're going to see something that looks a lot like mass deportations. >> okay. thank you so much, john sandweg and julia ainsley. good to see you. up next here, ana cabrera reports more on president trump's pardons for 1500 january 6th defendants. what it could mean for future doj cases and investigations. plus, president trump rode a wave of economic dissatisfaction to the white house, the promises he made and how they could inform his second term agenda. when it comes to your finances. at humana, we believe your healthcare should evolve with you, and part of that evolution means choosing the right medicare plan for you. humana can help. hi, my name is sam davis and i'm going to tell you about medicare advantage prescription drug plans that can provide more coverage than original medicare, including prescription drug coverage, all wrapped up into one convenient plan. with original

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granger for the ones who get it done. >> more now on president trump's pardons for roughly 1500 of his supporters charged in connection with the attack on the u.s. capitol. the events of january 6th, 2021, resulted in the largest fbi investigation ever, with criminal charges brought against more than 1500 people and criminal convictions against 1100 of them. trump's pardons, coming just hours after former president joe biden pardoned january 6th select committee members in one of his final acts, along with law enforcement officers who were there that day and testified in the panel's hearings. nbc's ryan riley is joining us now with more on this, along with former u.s. attorney and senior fbi official chuck rosenberg. ryan, what are you hearing from the prosecutors who were involved in these cases

as well as the victims? some of these police officers who were injured that day? >> yeah, there's definitely a lot of shock about the extent of them. i think, you know, it was sort of written in that there were already going to be pardons, probably hundreds of them for certainly misdemeanors. but there is this thought that at least maybe someone would prevail behind the scenes and that individuals who assaulted law enforcement officers on camera, on video, beyond a reasonable doubt, not in any reasonable dispute, would actually be pardoned. but everyone was pardoned. this was a massive pardon action against people who really viciously assaulted law enforcement officers that day. i actually talked with a sergeant gonell this morning, and he was one of the individuals who was assaulted, probably definitely in the top of the assaults that he suffered that day. >> and he needed surgery, right? yeah. his injuries. >> yeah. and just it's amazing. i watched so much of this video and it would be like, oh, there he is getting assaulted again. there he is getting assaulted again. again and again and again. and he had this screenshot that he sent me because it's a screenshot of a victim notifications of all of the people who are getting out of prison, who assaulted him,

because there's this system through d.o.j. where it's a victim service notification, and they say, hey, this person is getting out, they might be a threat to you. and so all he got all night long was those notifications. >> wow. what's your reaction to hearing that? and just as you look at this broad 1500 people now pardon. >> do i have to use television words? >> i'm afraid so, chuck. >> i found it deplorable. reprehensible. you know, as ryan said, there were some number of folks who committed lower level crimes, property crimes, disorderly conduct. you know, maybe i could see my way through that. but for those who assaulted officers and they did it before our eyes, it's hard for me to fathom. it's hard for me to reconcile what i saw that day with what just happened. and by the way, if we could just take a step back. pardons have always been for those who have shown remorse, acts of contrition, those who have served their time and come out of prison and turn their lives around, contributed to the community, supported their families, paid their taxes. it's

something that comes at the end on a not at the beginning. and i am just bewildered by a president who can say on one hand that he supports the men and women of law enforcement, and on the other, with a stroke of a pen set free almost 400 people who assaulted officers. >> and so are we. just expecting now a wave of prison releases. ryan. yeah. >> this is going to continue to trickle in. i mean, i think a lot of people have already been let out. i think there are still going to be a couple of cases that play out in court. a few of her colleagues are over in federal court right now because they remember their ongoing trials. right. so you just had a jury sit down, for example, is there actually a former fbi? this is a little bit of an oddity, but there was a former fbi supervisory special agent who actually oversaw counterterrorism cases in new york, who was charged in connection with january 6th. he allegedly and video shows that he yelled, kill him, kill him, kill him at cops. that case had been had been ongoing. there's another trial involving some defendants. so these are recent developments that we're continuing to play out. and i'm curious to see, you know, when

judges have an opportunity to speak in court about this, i think we're probably going to see some pretty strong words. and that's from judges really across, you know, judges who were appointed by members of both parties have seen the evidence of this. and average people have gone in and watched the evidence. and i think that's like one of the things that really sticks with me is just the difference between people who know what they're talking about on these cases and the people who don't. and that was one thing that was very clear to me, you know, going into this when i was talking to people about donald trump's reaction to this and talking about the pardons is people from january 6th defendants to federal prosecutors to the online sleuths who have identified hundreds of these people, said it was very clear that donald trump didn't really know many of the details on these cases. he hadn't seen the videos of these. and, you know, obviously, i think he he knew that there was some violence there. i it's unclear how ready he was because when you watch these videos, it's just it's just overwhelming. >> it's hard to understand the thinking behind allowing some of those people to just go free and really get nothing more than a slap on the wrist. in fact, you could even say it's less than that at this point if their

record is cleared. what about the ongoing cases, chuck? are those just done now? >> effectively, yes. i mean, a pardon wipes out conviction. it doesn't sort of obviate the guilt. i mean, the people did what they did. the cameras recorded what they recorded. but that seems like an overly technical way to think about what mr. trump did. what he did essentially was he ended their cases and the punishment those who had been charged, those whose charges were pending, those who have yet to be charged. it's over. >> what tone does this set for trump's doj? >> well, you know, there's two narratives here. it depends on which side you're on. sadly, there isn't a single operative set of facts, it seems to me. i mean, if you're from my world, where the rule of law matters and you grew up believing it and abiding by it and holding people accountable for violating the law, that sends a terrible signal. it has to be incredibly discouraging, not just to

prosecutors and the agents who investigated these cases, but to the entire court family, to the judges, to the victim witness coordinators, and to the victims of these crimes. and let's call it what it is. these were crimes. if you're on the other side of the narrative, then mr. trump simply delivered what he promised he would deliver. we shouldn't be surprised by that. and i imagine that, you know, they see the people who were convicted as, you know, standing up for what they believed in and trying to restore government, you know, following mr. trump to this bitter end. so it depends on what side you're on. sadly, i wish there was a single set of operative facts, but there doesn't seem to be. >> i do want to ask you about some news we just got in about judge aileen cannon, who has now apparently enjoined the doj from sending the second part of the jack smith report to congress. that would be the classified documents portion of their final report that the special counsel had been doing that investigation. is that the end

of that then? is this put a put that to bed, not finally and firmly. >> there could be an appeal, there could be a reconsideration. but for now, we know that the second part of the report, the mar-a-lago part, the documents part, isn't going anywhere to be determined if we ever see it. but right now, according to judge cannon, nobody is seeing it. >> all right. thank you so much, chuck rosenberg. ryan riley, appreciate both of you very much. and we are keeping an eye on capitol hill, where confirmation hearings are underway right now for more of trump's cabinet nominees. as the senate unanimously confirmed his new secretary of state. but do others face headwinds? plus, we'll talk to democratic congressman robert garcia about a new direction for his party and potentially, if they can find common ground amped up. trump supporters have high hopes. >> i believe he will bring unity, i really do. >> the golden age is upon us.

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after the senate unanimously confirmed marco rubio as secretary of state last night, and votes could come soon for other nominees who have already had their confirmation hearings, including trump's picks for defense, homeland security and the cia, among others. let's go to capitol hill and nbc news chief capitol hill correspondent ryan nobles. ryan, it's extremely rare to see bipartisanship, let alone a unanimous vote for anything this day and age. but rubio got it. how quickly can he get to work? >> immediately. >> he is already at the state department, already taking charge of the operation there. >> and you're right. rubio is a bit of a unicorn in these bitter partizan times, someone that is well liked by both republicans and democrats is thought to have the requisite amount of foreign policy expertise to step into the role of secretary of state and immediately get to work. but it is important to point out that rubio is definitely the exception, not the norm. there

are still a number of trump cabinet picks that have a much stiffer and uphill climb in order to seek confirmation, and some of them have yet to even have their confirmation hearings yet. >> so while rubio got through easily on day one, there's going to be a lot more work for trump and many of these cabinet secretaries before they get over the finish line. >> and where do the rest of trump's nominees stand at this point, especially the ones we mentioned like hegseth or gnome? et cetera. >> so many of them have passed a critical step. >> they've gotten through the committee process that includes pete hegseth and kristi noem, who you pointed out they were reported out of the committee. and so in the very near future, they could get a vote on the floor, could happen by the end of this week. also, just in the last few minutes, scott bessent, who is trump's pick to run the treasury department, was just reported out of the finance committee. >> so his next step will be a full confirmation vote on the house floor. >> there isn't much that senate democrats can do to stop this train from moving forward. >> they do not have the votes to prevent these confirmation picks

from getting settled. >> however, they can gum up the process a little bit, force an extended time period before they get voted on. but ultimately, most, if not all of these cabinet secretaries will ultimately be confirmed. anna. >> ryan nobles. thank you. keep us posted. so, as the senate works to confirm trump's cabinet, a new reality is setting in for democrats who are now in the minority in both chambers of congress and trying to navigate whether their strategy will be one of cooperation or resistance. that includes democratic congressman from california, robert garcia, who is joining us now. congressman, good to have you. here we are almost 24 hours into donald trump's second term as president. what's your reaction to what we've seen so far? >> i mean? >> well, i think first, we shouldn't be too surprised. i think we all knew what we were going to get in the second term. and donald trump on his first day is delivering. >> i think what many of us expected cruelty, pardoning people that were insurrectionists that try to overthrow our government, pulling us out of an important

climate accords with the rest of the world and showing us who he is, someone that is willing to push an extreme vision of what he views as the future of our country, one where he is literally proposing things that are unconstitutional, like removing birthright citizenship from people that have been born in this country. >> and so i think it's a sad day for the country. i think that we as democrats, have to be really clear to push back on every lie and attempt to try to destroy our institutions and attack the people in this country. >> let's dig into the immigration element here. you mentioned birthright citizenship. trump's efforts to end birthright citizenship, which of course is already enshrined in the constitution, the 14th amendment. but he's also declared a national emergency at the southern border, saying that allows him to then take military action down there. we talked about how he got rid of the app that people were using to try to book immigration appointments in order to apply for asylum in the u.s. he's also talking about remain in mexico, trying to

reinstate that. unclear if that can be legally doable, since it was supposed to be a public health emergency. that was the initial reason for it. how do democrats plan to approach this? what's the strategy at this point? >> i think a couple things are important. >> i mean, first, we already know that border crossings have been already down over the last year or so. >> i mean, that's just a fact. >> democrats also want border security and safety, and we want a humane process for immigration system. >> that's something we can all agree on, what we will not agree on, and what we have to push back on is these attempts to dehumanize people and to, i think, really try to damage the reputation of hard working immigrants in this country and what they contribute, who donald trump is actually talking about are the people and the cooks in our favorite restaurants. >> he's talking about the people that take care of our kids in our schools. it's the folks that are working in our small businesses. it's people that are contributing every single day to this country. people like me, by the way. i'm an immigrant myself. >> i'm from a family of immigrants, and we've done nothing but be good, patriotic

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and the misery and devastation that we have seen inflicted there because of these horrific wildfires? and so many people are just trying to find their way now, right? and we've heard both president trump, even speaker mike johnson talk about potentially conditioning disaster aid. how can you and other people from california, other congress members from california, work with the new president? >> i think it's important to recognize that disaster relief has always been bipartisan. >> disaster relief has never been conditioned on something else. and i would tell the speaker, we have look at what happened in louisiana. louisiana has suffered huge disasters as we know the south. other parts of the country. we just had an enormous disaster relief package for much of the east and the south. because of the hurricanes, we've never conditioned aid. people back in california are suffering. they have lost everything. and somehow we're going to condition their aid. that's never happened before. we shouldn't start now. >> congressman robert garcia, it's good to have you here.

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