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reports. >> president trump signing a wave of executive orders last night, starting with the controversial pardoning or commutation of all the january 6th offenders. >> contrary to promises that those who committed violence at the capitol would not be released, and that includes the leaders of the oath keepers and the proud boys, whose members marched in washington again yesterday. in other big moves, the president declaring a national emergency at the border, withdrawing from the paris climate agreement and touting the release of three israeli hostages from gaza. while standing at a rally last night, with the families of the american hostages still held by hamas. we'll talk to the parents of one of those hostages taken this hour, and marco rubio is sworn in as secretary of state, the first cabinet secretary to take the oath of office. good day, everyone. >> i'm andrea mitchell in washington. >> president trump is putting his stamp on government right away with an aggressive agenda

on his first full day back in the oval office. right now, he's attending a prayer service at the national cathedral after signing an exhaustive list of executive orders and actions, some more impactful than others. he'll be meeting with congressional republicans later today at the white house. on day one, the president fulfilling his campaign pledge, pardoning or commuting the january 6th defendants, including violent offenders. contrary to recent comments by top trump officials, including vice president j.d. vance. >> the president signed a range of dramatic immigration changes, including directing an end to birthright citizenship, which is guaranteed in the constitution, in the 14th amendment and declaring a national emergency at the southern border. >> he also said he would invoke the alien enemies act to round up and deport migrants, something that has not been used since the internment camps for japanese americans during world war two. president trump has also halted federal diversity efforts and mandated the government only recognized two genders male and female. the

president also declared a national energy emergency and opened up alaska for more drilling. despite the u.s. being at record oil and gas production levels, and he pulled the u.s. out of the paris climate accords and the world health organization. >> in his inaugural address at the rotunda, president trump saying that these actions will usher in america's golden age. >> but experts say many of yesterday's most controversial orders exceed the limit of mr. trump's or any president's power. we begin with nbc news chief white house correspondent peter alexander, washington post white house reporter tyler pager, former ohio republican governor john kasich, and former democratic congresswoman from pennsylvania. susan wild so, peter alexander, a busy day for all of our white house teams, all of our teams here in washington. talk about the packed agenda today. >> well, andrea, i think a lot of the president's allies said that there would be shock and awe in the first days. >> perhaps day one of the trump administration. >> and i think to a lot of his

critics, certainly they did feel shocked to witness as much as they saw yesterday, recognizing, though, that so many of the things he did yesterday, frankly, were things he committed to doing throughout the course of the campaign, not the least of which was those pardons to the nearly 1600 individuals, many of whom were convicted, some pleading guilty for their crimes on that day, january 6th. let's walk you through what we expect to see from the president today. still attending that faith service at the national cathedral. a little bit later this afternoon at 2:00, he will be hosting a meeting with the top republicans in both the house and senate. of course, john thune, now the leading republican, the majority leader there, mike johnson, the house speaker, will be joining the president here. then we'll have some other lawmakers expected to be all republicans joining him for a meeting that takes place before an event at about 4:00 today, where he's going to be speaking about infrastructure. we can't say specifically what he will be announcing then, but we do know that one of the points about which president biden had routinely mocked president trump

was that trump, throughout the course of his first go as president, you know, talked about infrastructure week. and then it was only president biden, with the help of republicans and democrats in congress, who succeeded in getting more than $1 trillion passed toward that effort here. >> but as you speak about the executive orders, clearly, he came in the oval office late yesterday, even signed some of them before he arrived here with a stack of these executive actions, some policy announcements as well. you've spoken about birthright citizenship, the renaming of the gulf of mexico, he says, to the gulf of america. >> many of these are already facing legal challenges, certainly as it relates to the topic of birthright citizenship. >> it is his desire, andrea, that the children born to undocumented immigrants would not be able to get citizenship, as the constitution guarantees right now. >> so that is certainly to face some serious challenges going forward. >> again, when we see him at 4:00 and i'll be in that room, whether the roosevelt or the east room, another chance to press the president on some of the decisions he made and

announcements from yesterday. >> yeah. and peter, as jeh johnson, the former homeland security secretary, was pointing out, the 14th amendment was passed specifically so that people who were taken here in slave ships, like his ancestors, could have citizenship taken involuntarily into the united states. >> that was a reconstruction era, post-civil war 14th amendment. >> no, andrew, you're exactly right. >> and that's not alone in terms of policies, law that has existed in this country for years, that the president effectively was sort of brushing aside. yesterday, i just returned to the pardons, which is where we started. >> in this conversation, you think of some of those who were pardoned, among them a man by the name of d.o.j. rodriguez. >> this is someone who was sentenced to 12.5 years, who used a stun gun, drove it into the neck of a washington, dc police officer on january 6th. that officer had been taken hostage and in fact had been taken, had been kidnaped by the mob on that day. this individual, rodriguez, he was on

tape on video confessing to the fbi for his crimes and was convicted of the actions then as well. >> the president effectively brushing that aside so as it relates to birthright citizenship, relates to pardons. >> clearly, the president is sort of working by his own playbook. >> and tyler, marco rubio unanimously confirmed as secretary of state, very popular among his colleagues, has worked across the aisle many years on the intelligence committee for having worked on foreign policy even before that. he's trump's first cabinet confirmation. he granted provisional security clearances to his staff, and nbc news can confirm the president did rather, which is his power. nbc news can confirm that the first known senior military officer to be fired under the new administration is the commandant of the coast guard. >> the first woman, admiral linda fagan. how is the administration coming together? >> yeah, it's very clear that the trump administration was well prepared to come into office and had their eye on

certain officials that they no longer wanted to be serving in government. we expected marco rubio to sail through his confirmation. it is often the courtesy that senators give to their fellow colleagues as they head into the administration. and we're seeing that the trump administration is having wide success with all of their nominees. none of them have have yet been confirmed. but but sailing through senate confirmation hearings without much backlash from from republicans. and i think that's important to note here, obviously, as we look at this cabinet coming together, trump has a, you know, a wide margin of support among republicans in the senate. so making it much easier for him to get the people in place that he wanted to. i think that's the big difference between the first term and the second term here is that trump and his allies and his staff have been here before. they have a better understanding of how government works. and so they're instituting loyalty tests for people serving in the administration, not just loyalty to trump, but excluding anyone who worked for some of trump's

most fierce critics, even if they are republicans. i think we're seeing that across the administration, and it's not just in the senior most positions, but it's, you know, way down the list of people in bureaucratic jobs. we're seeing the trump administration implement the plans that they said they would over the last few years, and that is no more important to them than personnel. and these loyalty tests across the government. >> and tyler, also, there are several senior senior ambassadors, senior officials, not just the ambassadors, but other senior foreign service officers have been asked to resign. so these are not loyalty tests so much, but we're also seeing what they announced regarding, you know, this regulation f changing the civil service. there are plans afoot. and they they've drill down on how to eliminate what they call the deep state, what other people consider the career people who've been in government for years and actually are the people who do make things work.

>> yeah, absolutely. i mean, that is the key message that trump is sending to people throughout the government that this does not just stop at political appointees, but career officials who they view skeptically. they are going to be removed from their posts as well, whether by asking for their resignation or replacing them with other career officials that they are more comfortable with. and i think that is a key change from the first administration, and it's something that trump allies have been working on for years in think tanks around washington, the america first policy institute, the heritage foundation. after trump left office the first time his allies spread out throughout the washington ecosystem, preparing for him to potentially return to office. and we're seeing that they are able to act much quicker on some of these personnel matters the second time around, because they understood how the government worked and prepared to do so. >> congressman, you were inside the capitol on january 6th. during the attack, we saw the proud boys again marching in

d.c. what is your message? >> what message? i should say. >> do you think the president sends by pardoning or commuting all of these people and not doing it? as pam bondi had testified at her confirmation hearing for attorney general? case by case, doing it all in one fell swoop last night and also not separating the violent, you know, offenders from the nonviolent, as jd vance had suggested. andrea, i have to say yesterday was probably the most alarming day that i've experienced since january 6th of 2021. yes, i was inside the capitol. i was actually up in the gallery. i was trapped there with about a dozen of my colleagues for an extended period of time. and what the message that i think that president trump is, and yes, that's me in the red jacket in that photograph that you just showed the message president

trump sent yesterday was that blue lives don't matter, especially if they are guarding the capitol and they're part of the united states capitol police. it is a flagrant disregard of the fact that five officers lost their lives, that countless officers were badly injured. a number of them are still out on long term disability. and it's just it's mind boggling that we are just going to witness this departure from law and order. and i think that nobody should be surprised. we were. when they give you their playbook in advance, i guess the message is pay attention to it. but this is very, very alarming. >> these wholesale pardons to violent offenders and not on a case by case basis, as pam bondi had promised in her hearing, is just about as destructive a

message as i can think of. >> governor. >> also, the president delayed the tiktok ban, which was a law passed by congress, and he was surrounded by tech billionaires. >> yesterday, sitting in the front row in front of some of his own cabinet respected cabinet appointees. when you looked at the rotunda, they were right there behind him, elon musk, you know, tim cook, also big donors. let's talk about that and what message that is sending. >> well, you know, andrea, i think that collaboration or coming together of power of some of the wealthiest people is cause for concern. >> the question is, is this self-interest or is it something that is designed to do something good for our country? we have to we have to see. i mean, look, part of the issue here is it's a it's a restoring of the

pendulum. >> frankly, the democrats moved the pendulum too far to the left. the american people said, we've had enough. >> and now you have the republicans bringing the pendulum back. >> the question is, do they bring the pendulum so far back that they lose touch with the american people? >> it's too early to say that at this point. but that accumulation of power those people put in front of the cabinet and some of the elected officials, it's very interesting. and it wasn't done accidentally. it was done on purpose, which is to say we've got a lot of power. let's see what they do with that power. if it's power for good, the positive if it's if it allows a runaway ai system, that's very bad. if it means we don't try to check on what what things are being said or are the truth or not, then we have a real problem. >> andrea, at the end of the day, for everybody who's watching, i think it's important to note that america is strongest from the bottom up, not the top down. we can get very concerned about what's

happening at the top, and we should be, no matter who's in. but the strength of our country is from the bottom up. and as one wise person once said, who would you miss more if they went on vacation? >> the secretary of state or your trash man? and the fact is, is that we are a good country. as long as our people are good and we can bring change and hold people accountable from the bottom up. >> the top down hasn't worked for republicans. it hasn't worked for democrats. we'll see where we're going here. it's too early to render any sort of a judgment. >> in my view. >> no. fair. fair points all. and we really appreciate you, governor kasich. and, of course, susan wild, from your deep experience in tyler page, from your great reporting. >> thank you all so much. >> and in 90s, a deeper dive into the president's executive orders on immigration, including the lawsuits already filed. you're watching andrea mitchell reports on msnbc.

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south of the border without consulting mexico. the new president there, some migrants waiting in mexico were left in tears yesterday after cbp won an app used by migrants to apply for entry to the us was shut down abruptly and existing appointments were canceled. >> all illegal entry will immediately be halted and we will begin the process of returning millions and millions of criminal aliens back to the places from which they came. >> nbc news homeland security correspondent julia ainsley joins me now. so, julia, what are the real life implications of this? >> well, look, for those people. they didn't think they were crossing the border illegally. >> they followed the legal pathway that was set out for them by the biden administration. >> and they might have thought the door could be closing for future people. they thought an appointment given to them by the united states was something that would stay, that would be granted to them. so that's why you can see the anguish for these people here. >> and they've come a long way. a lot of them through

treacherous journeys through the darien gap. >> and so the one thing we do know is that there's a legal challenge. >> the aclu and other immigrant rights groups filed for an emergency hearing right here in federal court in d.c, saying that when this is shut down, what the administration has done is they've ended asylum for anyone because this is the one pathway left open. >> it's important to remember, biden did a huge asylum restriction executive action in june. >> this was the one window left open to make an appointment on this app that is now closed. and so what these groups are going to argue is that asylum is an international right for people who are fleeing persecution and fear in their countries. they have a right to make those claims at the us border. and so that could be one route if not into reopening cbp one, then at least having some pathway for people who are fleeing violence to be able to come to the united states. >> and on another front, the refugees from afghanistan, from the taliban, we'd arranged military flights to bring, you know, more than a thousand

people, apparently, who had been because of their connection to the us. some have been vulnerable, some of the many that we left behind, and that those flights apparently were canceled. is that, well, the entire refugee program has come to a halt. >> so if they were coming as refugees, all of that is on pause under taliban rule, as well as anyone who's trying to enter from a country that the trump administration doesn't think is providing enough information. >> so this is basically the first travel ban on steroids. it's not just five, seven, 13 countries, as we saw in those iterations. this is any country that they decide on a certain day isn't providing enough information. >> they can ban entry. >> and for refugees. and as you point out, afghanistan, that's something trump is very critical of biden for, for his withdrawal from afghanistan. >> these are people who have gone through a two year process. >> if you're under the un refugee program for vetting, it's one of the strictest, hardest ways to get into the united states, and they are now bringing that to a halt until the 90 day review, and until they can be satisfied that the program meets or aligns rather

with u.s. interests. so that's a very nebulous goal to try to meet. >> and we're going to follow up on the point about the lawsuits that were filed right now with the aclu. great. thank you. you've really set us up perfectly, julia. and joining us now is lee gelernt, an attorney with the aclu that has successfully challenged donald trump's immigration policies during his first term. and here you are. overnight, the aclu and other groups suing already over president trump's attempt to end birthright citizenship, a right guaranteed in the 14th amendment. the only way that that could be changed legally, doesn't it require a constitutional amendment to change the constitution? >> well, absolutely. >> that's that's exactly what we are saying in our court papers, that the 14th amendment clearly says that. and also the supreme court has said it, and that precedent has been there for a long, long time. and congress also has passed a statute which i think people forget back in 1940 and then recodified it again in the 50s, that says

someone born on u.s. soil is a citizen. and that's always been something the united states has taken pride in. and it doesn't matter who your parents were, you can come and be a citizen and achieve here. and so we are hopeful we'll prevail in that lawsuit. >> and so what does seeking asylum. julia was just pointing out, and she's been to the down to the border countless times and talked to people on both sides of the border. what does that now look like with cbp? one with the app scrapped immediately and thousands of appointments canceled. >> i'm glad you asked that. and julia did a great job setting it up. we actually now have an emergency hearing at 3 p.m. today that we just found out about. >> we alerted the judge yesterday to the fact that this cbp, one app that allowed you to make appointments has been has been terminated, not only prospectively, but people who had appointments. as you pointed out in your introduction. so we're going to be telling the judge that these people relied

on making an appointment, have used maybe all their life savings, have been waiting in mexico in real danger. and now all of a sudden the united states says, well, yeah, you've been waiting. you tried to do it correctly and it's going to be canceled. we think that asylum has to be available no matter how you enter. but this is really cynical that they're canceling these already scheduled appointments. you know, to put it simply, there is no more asylum in the united states. not only does canceling cbp one mean no asylum, but late last night, he issued another executive order that's going to seal the border. >> and he's saying that it's because there is an invasion. there will be no more asylum. >> so there's just law on top of law, sealing the border and ending asylum. >> and as you've pointed out many times on this show, asylum is a legal right. and it's something that we made a solemn commitment to have after world war two, that we would at least screen people for danger. there's no more screening for asylum now. >> there is absolutely no asylum

now in the united states. >> i can imagine a number of people, including i don't know the exact circumstances, but i think the new secretary of state's family from cuba, the outgoing homeland security secretary, alejandro mayorkas, born in havana. people from all over this hemisphere and other hemispheres who have come here seeking asylum as refugees. yeah, absolutely. >> and i think, you know, the president keeps talking about immigrants who are criminals invading. >> we know that anybody who stops and thinks about the immigrants they know knows that immigrants don't fit that pattern. >> are there some people with criminal convictions? some dangerous people, of course. >> but immigrants have been shown to commit crimes in less numbers. >> and the fact is that the people coming here are in real danger. >> they are not criminals. >> they don't fit that portrait of president trump. >> and this is this is not sort of some abstract academic issue.

>> these are real people fleeing danger on, on and fleeing persecution. >> and we really need to have an asylum system in the united states. >> and not only has he ended asylum, but he also ended the family separation task force. now we have a consent decree that says they have to continue reuniting families. we hope immediately. >> today they replaced the task force with some other entity that's going to continue these reunifications, because we think there may be up to a thousand children still not with their parents this many years later. >> thank you, as always. thank you very much. and next, an update on president trump's january 6th pardons. what that means for the courts and of course, the prisoners being released. you're watching andrea released. you're watching andrea mitchell reports. this is “the darkness of bipolar depression made me feel like i was losing interest in the things i love. then i found a chance to let in the lyte.” discover caplyta. unlike some medicines that only treat bipolar i,

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sentences of 14 members of the proud boys and the oath keepers, most of whom were convicted of seditious conspiracy, including former proud boys leader enrique tarrio, who was sentenced to 22 years in federal prison. the president's move received mixed reactions from republican senators today. >> as i've said before, we're looking forward to the next four years, not the last four. >> it was surprising to me that it was a blanket pardon? now i'm going through the details. >> that was, of course, senator tillis from north carolina, who's been saying that the violent perpetrators should not be pardoned. joining us now, nbc news justice and intelligence correspondent ken dilanian and former u.s. attorney joyce vance. welcome, both. ken, how is this going to play out in the next few days? >> andrea, this is going to be a really tough thing, as you saw there for those republican lawmakers to defend, particularly because many of them have called for the prosecution of people who attacked police officers. and look, we knew donald trump was going to pardon some january 6th

defendants, but it is a shock that he pardoned people who are on video attacking law enforcement officers. and it is a real body blow to this building where i'm standing inside the justice department, because this was the single biggest criminal investigation in american history. nearly every field office, fbi field office and every u.s. attorney's office participated in trying to bring these january 6th attackers to justice. it was one of the highest priorities of the justice department. they put intensive resources into it, and they got long sentences for people who admitted to attacking police officers and to those organizers. you mentioned convicted of sedition, who got more than 20 years. they're all being released now. all but 14 were pardoned, 14 had their sentence commuted, and donald trump ordered the dismissal of hundreds of pending cases, which is also an unprecedented thing for a president to do. so this is it's hard to overstate what a monumental use of the pardon power this was. some scholars i'm talking to are calling it an abuse of the pardon power, and

it's going to have repercussions across the justice system that are really unprecedented. andrea. >> and, joyce, what does this mean for the justice system? because some lawyers who worked for donald trump's defense team are now going to be involved in overseeing these all these cases. well, the cases are now dismissed because they're pardoned, but they're going to be involved in these investigations. >> well, you're right, andrea, the cases are now dismissed. the acting united states attorney in the district of columbia is someone who has participated in stop the steal, someone who has joined the president in viewing these now former defendants as people who were improperly imprisoned. but there are real world impacts to their release. for one thing, if you've been convicted of a federal crime upon release, you can no longer possess a firearm or even ammunition. these folks are now free to do that, except for the

14 defendants who had their sentences commuted. everyone who's received a pardon can do that. and as a practical matter, you know, having worked closely with my former colleagues at the bureau of prisons, i can tell you that these spontaneous releases are very difficult. many of these people may not have a place prepared for them to go, may not have a plan for reentry into their community. that's not very sexy. commentary. in light of these pardons, which ken describes as being so shocking but as a pragmatic sense involving these people's return to their communities, it's unlikely to be a smooth and an easy transition, and these people will continue to be vulnerable to the sorts of conspiracy theories that landed them in prison in the first place. >> and ken, right now, as i was suggesting, we have emil bove as acting deputy attorney general, he was one of president trump's personal lawyers in the criminal cases. and now they do have to deal with, you know, those jack smith, you know, the

investigation, january 6th investigation appeals. so how does he handle that conflict? >> look, i think the message has been sent very strongly from donald trump. they're going to do everything they can to get rid of all of these january 6th related cases. they may try to investigate what happened with jack smith. there's been very clear calls for that. investigate the investigators. and they're going to they're going to have access to every text message, every memo, every email that jack smith and his team sent over the course of their years trying to prosecute donald trump. look, this is about as epic a political sea change as you can imagine. and yet there are career officials, most of the people working over here at the justice department and the fbi are career public servants who are having to deal with this neck snapping transition, where one day they're being told to bring the january 6th attackers to justice, and the next day they're all pardoned and let out of prison. and the cases are dropped. so what i'm really trying to do some reporting over

here is and interested in is how are these career officials reacting to this? what are they going to do? there's been no plan that i've been able to discern for, for example, for mass resignations, people are pretty much keeping their heads down and trying to do their jobs. and in most cases they won't be affected. but around the margins of these cases that are tinged with politics, that's really where the rubber meets the road, and particularly around immigration and things like that. there's going to be some tough days ahead. >> andrea and joyce, you're an appeals court specialist. so judge cannon now, as anticipated, has decided that the justice department cannot even turn the classified documents case. that second part of jack smith's report over to members of congress for review. does that go to the 11th circuit? what happens next? >> so there would have to be someone to appeal that ruling. and since it was the government that was asking for permission to release those materials, i think it's a certainty that trump's justice department won't

continue that request. whether or not the 11th circuit might permit another party to come in and stand for the government remains to be seen. but there's some precedent for that. when the census cases were percolating during the first trump administration, intervenors were permitted to come into those cases after they convinced a court that the trump justice department would not take a position that that represented the dictates of the constitution. we could see a move like that here. congress could still try to receive these materials through the freedom of information act. it's not entirely a done deal yet on this ruling. >> thanks very much, ken dilanian, joyce vance. and next, the parents of an american-israeli hostage joining me. one day, after attending the president's post-inauguration rally on what they said to the president on stage, you're watching andrea mitchell reports on msnbc. >> want the fastest working glp1

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just saying off camera, we've been meeting too long. it's been more than 15 months of your agony. a number of days. we still can't, handsome son. and we know you know that your son is deceased. he is a hostage. and ruby, the sequence of this deal. and you've been you've been very open about celebrating the release of others as they are supposed to come out. but tell me when, to your knowledge, would it come home to you? >> well, at the moment he will come out in the second and a half phase, which means towards the end. i have to say, i think that the us people should be disappointed that the us citizens did not come out in this first phase, but it is what it is. and when we met president trump on stage yesterday, i urged him to guide his team to

finish the job. >> and let me play that tape, because i think we have the video. at the rally last night, you were both there and we have the video. i think if we could play that now of ruby, if he was coming down the row and you paused him and you talked to him for a moment, i think just before we. right there is where it is. and so what did you say to him? >> i told him, we are new yorkers, so we share something in common in my history. my dad, actually, he when he came to the states, he came, as you know, non-educated holocaust survivor. he was a construction worker. he actually was one of the people that built the trump tower many, many, many, many years ago. >> your father worked on the trump tower. >> yeah, he did, and i urged him to remember the number seven. number seven is the number of us citizens and that are being held hostage and urged them to guide

his team. >> did he say anything to you in return? >> well, we talked about, you know, the fact that my kid didn't come out yet and he had something to say about the previous administration that i'll keep private. but he gave me a pat on the back and he says, you know, i got it. so i hope that indeed is the type of reinforcement that we will be able to get with this new administration. >> does that encourage you? yes, but i'm still worried because i don't know yet when he is going to come back. >> and i still have my doubts if indeed he's coming back, not alive or alive. i know what i was told, but, you know, i feel him, i still, i feel him, i'm his mom, i still feel him. >> and i still hope you can always have hope. and. and you want him back in whatever. whichever it is. >> if he's not alive, i think he deserves, you know, not to finish his life.

>> you know, in the hamas tunnels, not knowing where he is, not being able for us as his parents to know that we gave him the honor that he deserves. >> because on that day, october 7th, he saved many lives and is a hero, and he deserves to get, you know, the recognition for being a hero. >> ruby, you went to doha the week before, both of you. you both went, yeah, that was our 25th anniversary. >> so i said, i'll take us to some exotic place. so i said, you know, let's go to doha. >> that's quite a 25th anniversary exotic trip. and you met with, i think, sheikh mohammed with the qataris. you met with. we met you met with all of them? >> yeah. it was a discreet private visit, but i thought it was important for them to look me in the eye and ask them about my son. because, you know, when you negotiate, you see a piece of paper with names on them. you

don't see the individuals, you say hostages, you don't say italy, you don't say oml, you don't say sigi, you say hostages. and i think it makes a difference. and i also wanted to meet mr. mcgurk. that indeed needs a lot of recognition for what he did. and he camped out in doha for many, many weeks to be sure that this does come in place. and i wanted to ask him point blank, like i'm looking at you, what about italy? and again, i share my disappointment as i think the united states of america, the people of this fabulous country. how is it that the us citizens were not front loaded and at the beginning of this process? >> because phase two isn't even negotiated yet? no. and it's also so fragile it can be broken. you know, the only thing you could expect about the middle east is the unexpected. well, there's a headline today in israel that the prime minister is trying deliberately

to sabotage the deal. >> yeah. so i think that there's a lot of posturing. we know that president trump has a direct line to the prime minister. and i'd like to remind you that the special envoy, mr. steve witkoff, got on a plane and met the prime minister on a saturday, which is typical. and they had some things to say to one another. i think it was more of a one way conversation. and that's how we got to where we got to. >> and finally, how do you feel about president trump repeatedly last night on several occasions, calling the january 6th attackers convicted criminals, hostages, not prisoners? >> i think it's a domestic issue. you know, we're just a mom and dad that wants our kids out. like, you know, it's not for us to comment on that. i think the. summary of, you know, why we come into washington is for them to remember that it is

a human being. and if he died for his country, then there's what we say less than peace. and that is the expectation that we met mike waltz. he's an army guy, the national security advisor, national security. he gets it. and we hope to believe that this administration would be able to allow us to have closure with the other us citizens, as well as all of the 94 hostages that have been kept in gaza for such a long period of time. >> i can t going to let up. we thank you. we pray that on hostages back, and it wl continue until we see our son back. we'll be with you throughout this ordeal. thank you, thank you. there's no way to imagine what you're going through. thank you so much for your courage. thank you, thank you. >> god bless you. >> god bless. >> thank you again, ruby. thank you so much. we'll be right back. >> consumer cellular ranked

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>> i ask you to have mercy upon the people in our country who are scared now. >> there are gay, lesbian and transgender children in democratic, republican and independent families, some who fear for their lives. >> and the people, the people who pick our crops and clean our office buildings, who labor in poultry farms and meatpacking plants, who wash the dishes after we eat in restaurants and work the night shifts in hospitals, they they may not be citizens or have the proper documentation, but the vast majority of immigrants are not criminals. >> they pay taxes and are good neighbors. >> they are faithful members of our churches and mosques, synagogues, gadara and temples.

>> andrea. >> not many people get the president of the united states as a captive audience to deliver that kind of message. >> especially we will see in due time whether the president absorbs it. >> as we learn more about his mass deportation plans in the coming days and weeks. >> andrea garrett i have been to the national prayer service after inaugurations countless times and to many other, many other services in that cathedral. i've never seen anything like that. bishop a striking moment indeed. thank you so much, garrett. and among the many executive orders president trump signed on monday was one revoking the security clearances of 51 former intelligence officials who had signed a letter in 2020 to argue that the stories about hunter biden's laptop had, quote, all the classic earmarks of a russian information operation. joining me now is former cia director john brennan. you were a signatory to that letter. your name was also on the list. but it's not clear to me that you had a clearance, because i

thought that the president, president trump, tried to cancel your clearances back in 2018. if you want to clear that up. >> yeah. >> he said in 2018 that he was going to take my security clearance. my security clearances were never taken at that time. and the only reason why i still had a security clearance, as i have for the past number of years since i left government service, was for the benefit of the government, so that if the cia or another government agency wanted to call me in to discuss a classified matter, they could do that. and so it was really for the government's benefit. it was to facilitate those classified discussions with myself, as well as with former directors, as well as other former members of the intelligence community that had those clearances. so, again, yesterday's eo is a bizarre among many of the bizarre executive orders that he had signed out. and as you point out, he misrepresented the facts in that executive order because it said that we had suggested that the hunter biden laptop story was russian disinformation. no, we said it was for the hallmarks of russian information operations,

including the dumping of accurate information, which is what we said in that letter. so again, this was just, you know, his effort to try to get back at those individuals who have criticized him openly and publicly in the past. and i think very legitimately. >> well, speaking of getting back at people, the official portrait of former joint chiefs chairman, retired general mark milley, was removed from the walls of the pentagon yesterday. it had been unveiled just a few days ago after it was painted. so it was put up in january 12th. it was taken down sometime after 12:46 p.m. and you can see joint chiefs chairman dunford's portrait there is still there. we should point out that mark milley served in commanded troops in iraq and afghanistan. he was in korea. he was in somalia. he was in rotc in 1980 at princeton university. there's no question about his service. what's your comment about that? we don't know who's responsible for taking it down, but clearly it happened right after the swearing in.

>> well, maybe my official portrait at cia headquarters has been taken down as well. i don't know, but general mark milley is an american hero. he is somebody who served his country so selflessly over so many years in very trying and difficult situations. and so donald trump couldn't even get near general milley's record in terms of his patriotism, his dedication to this country. so, again, i think that most americans need to be appalled at what donald trump has done to general milley, as well as to others who have served this country so nobly for so many years. >> the senate armed services committee voted along party lines to send pete hegseth s nomination to be defense secretary to the senate floor. he faced allegations, as you know, of sexual assault, which he denies. alcohol abuse, financial mismanagement, all of which he's denied. do you believe that he's qualified to lead the pentagon? he seems to be headed towards confirmation. >> well, i think there certainly are very legitimate concerns about some of his past behavior, as well as his past performance

when he headed up some of these not for profit organizations. and i was disappointed that during the committee hearings, there wasn't more intense scrutiny of some of these activities of his in the past, but he's gone through the process. it's going to be now up to the full senate to vote on on his nomination. but of all the people that could be serving as secretary of defense in donald trump's cabinet, i don't think pete hegseth is anywhere near the top of that list. >> and tulsi gabbard to be director of national intelligence, she doesn't have a hearing scheduled. the reports of bipartisan, bipartisan criticism, we don't know the numbers, but she hasn't even had a hearing yet because her paperwork has not gone forward. >> they claim that there is some bureaucratic issue, a red tape issue. but it may be that the trump administration is now having second thoughts about submitting that nomination formally, because i don't think they'd want to go through a hearing and to have her nomination rejected by the senate. but clearly, tulsi gabbard also has a lot of things

from her past, including the parroting of russian propaganda, taking putin's talking points when she talks about ukraine and parroting some of these conspiracy theories that are out there about, you know, donald trump's victory in the 2020 election and then her visit to syria and meeting with assad. so there's a lot about that. and she doesn't have any intelligence, experience or credentials as far as executive authority. >> john brennan, as always, thank you so much. and that does it for us for this edition of andrea mitchell reports. remember, follow the show on social media at mitchell reports. and you can rewatch the best parts of our show anytime on youtube. just go to msnbc.com on youtube. just go to msnbc.com slash. andrea. (auctioneer) let's start the bidding at 5 million dollars. thank you, sir. (man) these people of privilege... hoarding the financial advantages for far too long. (auctioneer) 7.5 at the back. (man) look at them — unaware that robinhood gold members now enjoy the vip treatment — a 3% ira match on retirement contributions. (auctioneer) 11 million sir. (man) once they discover their privileges

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