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celebrate their release after president trump issued sweeping pardons, even to violent offenders. >> the reaction coming in, including from the officers who were beaten by the mob and now fear for their safety yet again. >> plus, visual evidence of the presidential purge happening across the federal government right now. this is where a portrait of former joint chiefs chairman mark milley used to hang, and the head of the coast guard sent packing. >> as trump teases, another thousand biden appointees are being shown the door. and after a starring role at the inauguration, elon musk gets a crash course in washington politics. what we're learning about the multiple lawsuits already filed against his new cost cutting department. >> a lot to get to on this tuesday. we start with the first wave of roughly 1500. january 6th, rioters released from prison all over the country pardoned by president trump, who described them as victims of a grave national injustice. let's

go. >> keep it down. let's go. gilbert. brother. oh, yeah. let's go. yeah! welcome home. heroes. welcome home. let's go. >> in florida and in washington, d.c, supporters gathered outside the facilities, holding those j6 defendants, waiting for the next prisoners to be released. it's a culmination of president trump's efforts to rewrite the history of one of america's darkest days and fulfill his promise that the people he called hostages and patriots would be rewarded even if they broke the law. that message received loud and clear by allies who were clearly emboldened by trump's return to the white house. from the proud boys marching through d.c. for the first time since 2021 to this january 6th. defendant gabriel garcia, who cut off his own ankle monitor after hearing about the pardons. >> do you have any regrets at all? >> no regrets at all.

>> no regrets. zero. the last time i ever again. >> and we should note the president's actions ran the gamut. not only did he pardon hundreds of january 6th defendants, he also commuted the sentences of top militia leaders, including, according to the white house. oath keepers founder stewart rhodes, and the family of proud boys leader enrique tarrio says he was released last night. >> i want to bring in nbc's ryan riley in washington. paola ramos is in miami, where she spent inauguration day at a j. >> six pardon watch party. >> frank figliuzzi is former assistant director for counterintelligence at the fbi and an msnbc senior national security analyst. with me here in studio, anthony coley, former senior adviser to attorney general merrick garland. >> welcome, all. >> ryan, help us get our arms around this, because it's a ton of people, including violent offenders, as i said, all being released, i guess, essentially at the same time. >> yeah. i mean, it's really sweeping and full. it's a full, complete sweeping pardon. and i think that that's, you know, really something that i think a lot of republicans on capitol

hill are going to have to be grappling with in the next few days because a few of them put themselves out there and said that, you know, j.d. vance, for example, is that obviously that pardoning january 6th rioters who committed violent attacks on police officers was was not a good idea and that yet that's exactly what happened. you know, you're going to show video after video of these offenders. and i can tell you what that person's been part of everyone who has been pardoned. the only question is who of these defendants hasn't been charged yet and who will still be left sitting? because remember, the online sleuths have identified, you know, more than 200 people who assaulted law enforcement officers that day who were never arrested. and now, you know, almost certainly will not be you know, they haven't said definitively, but that pardon would theoretically would apply to any of these future cases. so it's almost certain that, you know, this is the end of the road. this is it. these cases aren't going to be continuing forward. and people who committed really violent offenses against members of law enforcement are being pardoned. in fact, you know, i spoke earlier today with with sergeant gonell, and he showed me some of

the notifications that he was getting of all of these people as they were coming out of prison. he would get this notification, you see them on the screen there. so he got these emails. he also got calls from them and saying, you know, so imagine just like overnight, all of these people who attacked you, who you testified in court against, and then, you know, you went there for their sentencing hearing and told the judge, you know, how awful the attack on you was. and then, lo and behold, all in one fell swoop, all of these people are getting out. even though they were sentenced to several years behind bars in most cases. and sergeant gonell took a beating more, i think, than many most other officers that day, he had one of the worst experiences of the day. there's just so much video of him being assaulted again and again and again and again by january 6th. rioters. >> chris, i see the concern on your face. anthony. and you were nodding as he was speaking. >> what do you make of this? >> so this whole thing, chris, is quite disturbing. it's also not surprising, right? >> donald trump told us that he was going to do it, and he's been aligned with these folks for years. >> when i first realized he was

aligned with these these individuals, it was during the first presidential debate against joe biden. >> he was asked by moderator donald trump if he would condemn the proud boys and violent right wing extremist extremist groups. he declined to do that. >> and he said, proud boys stand back and stand by. >> and they did that. chris, we didn't hear anything more from the proud boys through that election. fast forward to december of that year. donald trump tweets out to the world and to these individuals come to dc will be wild. and they show up on january 6th with their zip ties, with their tactical vests, with their axes and their bear spray. and they march down to the capitol, and they do exactly what donald trump tells them to do. they fight like hell. he told them to fight like hell, or they wouldn't have a country to fight for. >> and that is what they did until donald trump told them to stop. >> and so the message that he is

sending with these pardons is that it is okay to commit crimes, so long as you do it in my name, i will have your back. and that's chilling. >> michael fanone is outside the manassas, virginia courthouse right now. let's listen in. >> really, the only recourse that i have at this point was to seek protective orders. >> you know, ordering that these individuals stay away from me and my members of my family and do not attempt to contact us. >> you called last night. >> you know, i know you gave your your you gave your comments about the pardons, but you called it a betrayal. can you just talk a little bit more about how that felt when that happened? >> yeah. >> i mean, you know, i chose a profession of law enforcement and ultimately, you know, my job was was to serve the american people. >> and the american people chose this. the american people

elected donald trump knowing full well that he would pardon my attackers. and so it is the ultimate betrayal. >> yeah. >> so, you know, last night, after you heard the news, did you decide like basically, you know, when you came today, was this like something that you said, okay, this needs to be urgent. >> i need to i need to get down here today. i guess you mentioned the threats. what are your what were your fears? if, you know, maybe you delayed this. maybe you didn't have these protective orders right away. what would. what was the fear there? >> well, i mean, there is a timeliness component to applying for a protective order. >> i know that, you know, from my time spent as a police officer and, you know, a great deal of time has elapsed since january 6th, 2021. that being said, you know, i think that the anticipation was that these individuals would serve these lengthy sentences that they were given for the violent assault

that they carried out against me. >> and now they're free. >> yeah. >> and so my thoughts are on protecting myself and members of my family and nothing else right now. >> yeah. >> and, you know, let me go back if i can. >> ryan, obviously, he's worried for his safety. is he one of many people who have been vocal about what happened on january 6th? tell us about his decision to go down there if you know about it. >> yeah. mike actually texted me and told me this was going to happen, and we sent a crew out there to meet him because, you know, he was expecting a lot of this. i've been talking to mike for the past several days, and actually i talked with him on the last day. what will now be the last day of any of these january 6th hearings? it was his sixth and final january 6th sentencing hearing. so we actually have some tape from that from friday of him speaking to me outside the courthouse. so. if we don't have. yeah, i

spoke with him outside the courthouse and he was i think we do have it. >> i think they're just taking a second to cue it up. >> let's see. >> no, we don't have it now. okay. go ahead. tell us about your conversation. >> yeah. so i had this conversation with him outside the courthouse, and then i actually led him in afterwards. i spoke with him afterwards, and we interviewed. but one of the moments that i was really just will stick with me for a while is that we were standing outside the courthouse and judge chutkan, who oversaw all of these january or oversaw january 6th cases and also oversaw donald trump's case, was actually coming out of the courthouse as i was speaking. >> okay, wait a minute. >> i don't i don't know if this is part of the tape we have, but i'd love to see it if we do. so we have that tape cued up now. >> can you play it for our. >> after testifying before congress, like i got to see america's true character. i got to know the american people real well. politicians too. well. and i just realized that, you know,

indifference, cowardice. >> selfishness or real, you know, that's the real american way. >> and so this is when you saw tanya chutkan. >> yeah. so that's right before she actually walked by and she walked out with her security detail. and that's something that, you know, not every judge has necessarily a security detail with them all the time, especially, you know, inside the courthouse, accompanying them everywhere. and so she walked out with her security detail. this was in the morning. and then at the end of the day, as i came out of the last january 6th hearing that i'll ever go to was was i ran into judge chutkan in the hallway and we, you know, exchanged pleasantries and then she actually called and asked, you know, how's mr. fanone doing? i think that there's this shared sort of sense of concern for, you know, other individuals because she's seen people. she's seen officers lay their hearts out. and, you know, it's not only these people that we see on tv all the time. and i think that that's something that really should get through to folks is like, there are just

average officers who will walk into that courtroom and talk about one of the worst days in their life and testify about how awful this was. and they're not somebody you see on television because they don't want to deal with the threats that, you know, someone like mike fanone has to deal with. so, you know, we don't necessarily see those people on tv all the time because they realize that, hey, if i throw myself out there on tv, i'm probably going to get a lot of backlash for it. so people are making these assessments about their personal safety and feeling as though they can't freely speak out because they're worried about these online mobs going after them. and that's really just the situation that we are we are in here today in america. >> anthony, i've known you for a bit, right? i've known that i've ever seen this angry or this emotional as i as i see you now, what do you say to michael fanone? what do you say to the folks who, you know, who prosecuted these cases? >> so here's my message to donald trump. what happened to back the blue? what happened to back the blue? so while while they were talking just now, i went back and i wanted to just refresh my memory. i knew that

michael fanone had been targeted on january 6th, five seconds, he was dragged down the capitol steps. he was beaten with pipes. he was stunned with a taser. he was sprayed with chemical irritants and threatened with his own body. that's what happened to michael fanone in this. president pardoned the folks that did that to him. i think. i think he owes the country an apology, and i think he owes michael fanone and the 140 officers who were also on the wrong end of a baton of these january 6th, six defendants. he owes them an apology. and it's a sad day in american politics. >> paula, you were at a j. >> six watch party the other side of this story. >> you spoke to one of the defendants. you also spoke to enrique tarrio's mother. >> so tell us about that.

>> yeah. chris. so you actually started this block showing footage of some of these january 6th defendants that were being released from a prison in north florida. and i want to give you some context about what you were seeing, the person that shot this video that's on screen right now is actually. his name is gabriel garcia. gabriel garcia is a proud boy. he's a january 6th rider from right here in miami where i'm talking to you. and last night, he drove over four hours from miami to see all of his friends being released. you can hear that video. one of the things that he says is he calls them heroes. and i think that kind of captures the moment we're in. but before gabriel garcia was taking that video, chris, he was right here in miami, and he was hosting a january 6th pardon watch party. and gabriel garcia was sentenced to one year in prison for the actions that he committed on january 6th. and yesterday, by 7:30 p.m, we could see him cutting off his court ordered ankle bracelet. he was celebrating. but i think what you're about to see right now,

chris, is someone that shows absolutely no remorse. take a listen to what he told me. >> as a new president and i'm going to speak. i have zero regrets for what happened that day and what especially my actions. i can't speak for everybody else. >> the last time you and i talked was exactly almost two years ago. and you specifically said. you said, i regret going that day. and you said, if i could have, i would have never gone to washington, d.c. those were your words? >> yeah. no. >> did you mean that? >> no, i didn't mean it. >> you didn't mean it? absolutely not. >> i had to say it because the way this government has been treating me and these corrupt judges. >> absolutely not. i'll go again, 100%. >> i think that says it all, chris. gabriel garcia has no regrets, no remorse. if he could do it again, he would. and so the question is, what is that tone exemplify? what does that mean? the question is even more urgent when we understand that enrique tarrio is going to be arriving right here in miami tomorrow. enrique tarrio, the leader of the proud boys. and so will we see a proud boys that reemerges in miami-dade county with more force. i was actually

able to talk to enrique tarrio's mom yesterday, who was also present at gabriel garcia's watch party, and here's what she told me. do you think that enrique would rejoin the proud boys? like, do you think that he would be active again? i don't know, i think that's a question for enrique. >> i don't know how that would play out. >> you know, i think a proud boy is always a proud boy to a certain extent. >> and a j6 defendant is going to be always with j6 defendant. >> a proud boy is always a proud boy. let's remember that political violence in this country is being normalized by the time at least a quarter of republicans believe that january 6th was justified. and so, again, what will happen when enrique tarrio and gabriel garcia, with all of the january 6th defendants that we just saw on your screen, what is going to happen when they come back together and they look at the future with now a sense of liberation? >> thank you for that, frank. i want to read part of what the new york times wrote, because it speaks, i think, directly to the divide, speaks directly to donald trump's attempts to

rewrite the story of january 6th. >> quoting here, many americans now view the events of january 6th as a choose your own reality narrative. depending on one's politics, heroes and villains have become interchangeable. >> those who investigated the attack could be either truth tellers or corrupt partizans. those who attacked the capitol and were jailed could be either criminals or hostages. now each side has its own set of pardons to bolster its case. what do you think this means for the country going forward? and will we never have a shared understanding of the narrative surrounding january 6th? >> yeah, we can now say with certainty that we will not come to agreement as a nation on what january 6th was about. and really, there's no perhaps greater example of this than the fact that the back, the blue people, the maga movement that have those blue lives matter flags on the back of their bumpers seem to be wholly

inconsistent with the back of the blue here. but let's understand something. those folks and trump are transactional. they will back the blue only if the blue backs them. >> and i think one of the troubling spots here for me is the lack of outrage. >> excuse me? the lack of outrage amongst police organizations. every police organization in this country should be speaking out right now, saying it is wrong to pardon people who assault our police officers. the other thing that's notable here is the bait and switch. the people around trump, as is usually the case, were telling us, calm down, you've got trump derangement syndrome. it's not going to be this bad. he's going to look at case by case scenarios here. and the violent people, they won't get pardoned. >> that's a lie. >> and they knew that. >> and that's what we're going to be facing for the next four years is calm down, it'll be fine. >> but in reality, trump will do the thing that's wrong for this country and for the rule of law. >> that is exactly what any number of his allies said, that he would distinguish between

peaceful protesters and people who beat police officers with baseball bats and two by fours. he was asked about that. >> let's listen. >> this is going to be punishment for the people who assaulted law enforcement officers that day. >> well, i will say this. they've been in jail for a long time already. i see murderers in this country get two years, one year, and maybe no time. so they've already been in jail for a long time. these people have been destroyed. what they've done to these people is outrageous. there's rarely been anything like it in history. in the history of our country, and even people that were aggressive and in many cases, i believe they happen to be outside agitators. but, you know, what do i know, right? >> i won't even ask you, anthony, to fact check that. but i will ask you this. you don't become a federal prosecutor or frankly, state local da to get rich. there are ways of being a lawyer to get rich. that's not

one of them. do you worry about the chilling effect this has onl talent, to do the extremely hard work that is done by the justice department? >> i do, i've over the last 16 hours or so, chris, i've talked to some of my former colleagues at the doj, and there is one common denominator. there is a lot of shock that this actually happened, right, because people believe pam bondi, when she said that there would be a case by case review. but on the other end of the spectrum, there are people who are still at the justice department, still in the u.s. attorney's office for the district of columbia, who are saying, you know what? we know what we did was the right thing. we know that it was based on the facts and the law, and we're going to stay and fight for this department that we love. >> ryan riley, paola ramos, frank figliuzzi, and anthony coley. >> a really important

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taking the oath of office, trump signed a blitz of executive orders, touching on everything from immigration to energy diversity initiatives and government hiring. sitting behind piles of orders in the oval office. and even before that, he was in front of a roaring crowd of supporters at the capital one arena, publicly rolling back 78 biden administration policies and taking shots at his predecessor along the way. >> could you imagine biden doing this? i don't think so. we're getting rid of all of the cancer. i call it cancer. the cancer caused by the biden administration, one of the worst administrations in history, maybe the not one of them the worst. >> even the new white house website declares america is back. you see the white house very small at the top there. nbc's garrett haake is reporting from that house, the white house. >> also joining us, michael steele, former rnc chair and co-host of msnbc's the weekend.

>> jeremy peters is new york times national reporter and an msnbc contributor. so, garrett, there are so many. but but whether those signings were about keeping promises or undoing what president biden did, what are the big takeaways here? >> yeah, chris, it's a little bit of both. look trump and his allies understand he is term limited. >> he has narrow majorities in congress and he needs to act fast if he wants to keep as many of his campaign promises as possible. he did so yesterday, particularly on the border, where he declared a national emergency, putting back in place things like his remain in mexico policy and clearing the way to eventually send national guard and perhaps even active duty troops to help secure the southern border. he also declared an energy emergency, which will increase his ability to try to goose domestic oil and gas production already at record high and freeze production of offshore wind. there's nothing in maybe nothing in this country that donald trump hates as much as windmills. those will be gone. >> he's also reworking the federal government itself and how it does business,

instituting a hiring freeze across all branches except the military and, with some exceptions, ordering federal workers back to work and even changing how some people talk about or are they recognized for who they are, saying that the federal government will recognize just two genders, male and female. >> chris, this is only the tip of the iceberg from what was an absolute blitz of executive orders yesterday, and which could still continue into this week. >> speaking of tip of the iceberg, i know that's exactly where you're standing, so i'll let you get back inside where it's warm. garrett, thank you for that. so let me talk about a couple of these things. and jeremy, i'm going to start with withdrawing the us from the paris climate agreement. it was one of multiple orders focusing on energy. here's what he said at the capital one arena. >> we have more oil and gas than any country in the world, and we're going to use it. we're not going to do the wind thing. wind. big, ugly windmills. they ruin your neighborhood. if you're into whales, you don't

want windmills either. and they kill your birds and they ruin your beautiful landscapes. >> i mean, is there any risk for him at all governing on half truths, untruths? >> and by the way, as he's preparing to go to north carolina and california, two places that have been devastated by natural disasters. >> right. and i think the paris climate accords, a lot of what trump did yesterday is kind of replay his greatest hits. >> so in terms of really exciting, you know, his voters, i don't know how far that is going to go. however, he not only reached back into his, you know, his political toolbox yesterday and pulled out the old favorites. he did things on immigration, for example, signaling that the federal government will no longer recognize the citizenship of people born in the united states to parents who were here illegally. and it's actions like that going forward that are really going to define this

administration and show us how effective and competent they really are. remember eight years ago when he got to office? >> i mean, they barely had nominees for the cabinet in place today. >> they have assistant secretaries of agriculture who are already nominated. so they are much further along here than they were. and they're showing a much greater competence and understanding of the levers of government and how to pull them to, to their liking. >> so, michael, we played at the top, donald trump suggesting he needs to fix what joe biden broke. and even when he found the traditional letter, you know, that's left by the outgoing president, he passed on the opportunity to say something nice. >> president trump, did president biden leave you a letter? >> he may have. don't they leave it in the desk? i don't know.

>> oh, what's in there? >> it could have been years before we found it. wow. thank you. peter, thank you very much. i may not have seen this for months. >> happy to help with the passing of the torch i did. >> i left him one in the desk. just like this. >> could it, michael? benefit trump to show president biden a little grace. >> thank him for his service, his work on the gaza ceasefire and hostage release? or would that have been seen as a weakness by his supporters? >> what do you make of what we saw yesterday? he won. >> it wouldn't have been. >> yeah, it wouldn't have been seen as a weakness. >> it would have been off brand. his brand is exactly that. you know, it could have been months before i would have found this letter which says what his work habits are, that he would not have opened the desk drawer, the resolute desk drawer, for months. so, you know, this is all propping. donald trump is about the props. he says he

left, you know, a letter to the president, to president biden in that ill fated transition. i find that hard to believe, honestly, because you didn't go to the inauguration, so why the hell would you leave him a letter? so, you know, look, this is all props. everything's propped up at the cap center. it's prop, you know, capital one arena. >> it was props here. it's props. >> this is all part of the new reality that's being set up to the reporting before. yeah, they they know what they're doing now and they're very well prepared to do it. and they, they have, you know, a significant number of voters out there who wanted this. so all of the shock and awe right now that that's coming from people about i. but he said he was going to, you know, case by case really. you believe that? you believe that. so you're to the last segment, you know, you talk about where the police and their outrage to

watching what happened with january 6th, rioters and insurrectionists and. well, yeah, where are they? i mean, they're dealing with the fact that they got that infection inside their own membership. we have that infection inside our military. donald trump knows this. they know he knows where his base is. so, you know, you're not going to see the traditional institutions stand up against this right now. they're just not. we've watched the oligarch community grow in this in this country. they're bending the knee in other parts of the body to make donald trump happy, because they don't want the blowback and they want the grift, the gain that comes from this relationship. so, yeah. so now we just have to, i guess, deal with what happens next, report on it, talk about it, analyze it, but understand fundamentally, until the american people said, no, this is not what we want. or institutions stand up and say,

stop this. this progresses. it goes forward. i don't know who's going to stop it. republicans in the senate with the majority, republicans in the house with their majority, tell me where where it stops. >> i doubt it. >> you doubt it? >> i mean, look, the party has shown very little willingness to stand up to him, even. >> and he's filled his cabinet in many ways with republicans who did used to stand up to him, his vice president, i think being first among them, secretary of state marco rubio. >> remember, these are republicans who used to say that they abhorred what trump represented and his manipulation of public sentiment and the anger that he brought out in american politics, their political power, these these republicans, the rank and file members of congress, as long as they think that their political power is derived from donald trump and their proximity to him, their support, their, you know, admiration for him, they're not going to stand up to

him. >> and right now, he is the source of power, the center of gravity in the republican party, perhaps more so than any figure leading any political party in the united states for generations. >> i mean, his power is he is he is so thoroughly dominated this party. >> chris. >> yeah. and it's interesting, michael, because we've all talked to and i did certainly as recently as yesterday with people who used to work with folks who were very well known opponents of donald trump, who are now, as you put it, bending the knee, working for him, praising him. nbc news spoke yesterday to a couple of trump supporters around the national mall, and here's what they said about their hopes for a second term. >> i think he reassured the american people that we're going back to more conservative values, more like how he was four years ago when i listened to him. >> he seems more mild than he was four years ago. >> unity. >> i believe he will bring unity, i really do. >> i'm happy to see what he

really wants to do to help inflation help with the state of affairs. >> the everyday american just trying to put food in the on the table. >> i think that last one, a lot of people have expressed that, including a lot of people who flipped the idea that he's mild maybe up for interpretation, but i guess as i watched him yesterday, including on the train ride back, i watched the whole last ceremony he did when he was signing in the oval office. he's good at this, michael. he's good at making a show of things. he's good at talking to people in ways that connect with them. it was certainly connecting with the guy in the seat next to me who was clearly a trump supporter. so what? what do not just democrats, but what do people who oppose him do about it? he has an impressive skill set when it comes to communicating this

and getting people on board with him. >> he is the p.t. barnum of american politics. there's no there's been no one else like him. and everything that goes with p.t. barnum, everything that we know about the attractiveness of what he was able to do, how he distracted people from the, you know, the ho hum ness of their lives by creating this grand circus, these great three rings that you could come and, you know, have this suspension of disbelief and watching people on the high wire and watching lions and tigers and bears. oh my right. there's this great distraction. but then what is this? >> eight years ago we saw this eight years ago. we know what absolutely what it is. the question is he w and he won again with, you know, winning. >> he won again because there was no every battleground state, just like he said. >> that's true. >> but there was nothing intervening to break that, that suspension of disbelief that

that would deal with the reality of the american people as they saw it. donald trump speaks to a reality as you see it. that's why you have people saying, i like him because he's just like me. you know, they don't have they don't live in a gilded apartment on fifth avenue. they don't have a mar-a-lago. they don't have gold golden toilet seats. but they do. they do have this connection to him that's real for them. and he talks to that. but then where do they derive the benefit? you know that in that video, what did you hear people still talking about hope, right. i hope he does this well. didn't he do that in the last four years? he had no he didn't. and he's not going to do it in this four years. so this all this remake of government is about a consolidation of power. i mean, look at how he set up the conversation yesterday. he had his family, right? but then he had the oligarchs, his

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four were fired just minutes after midnight via a truth social post that includes trump's former chairman of the joint chiefs, general mark milley, who had been serving on the national infrastructure advisory council. just hours earlier, milley's newly installed portrait at the pentagon was taken down. that was right after trump took his oath of office. nbc's courtney kube is reporting from the pentagon. and i think we've also learned that the coast guard commandant, linda fagan, has been fired. what's the mood inside the pentagon and what could all this mean? >> it's a little bit of surprise, even though i will say we have been talking for weeks about the possibility that donald trump and his and the people who he brings into this administration with him could fire some senior level military officers, many of whom are seen as being too, too much in favor of promoting diversity issues. >> well, now we know the first one that we are aware of anyway is the commandant of the coast guard, admiral linda fagan, as you mentioned. now, chris, she

is the first woman who made it to four stars in the coast guard. she's also the first woman to serve as the chief of a branch of the united states armed forces. so this is a significant person, a woman who was removed from this job. we learned she was actually told late last night by the acting secretary of the department of homeland security. but we only got confirmation of this decision earlier today. now, there are other women who are serving among the chiefs, but as i said, she was the first one to serve in this very critical position. in addition to admiral fagan's now departure, we also, as you mentioned, are seeing some very physical manifestations of people being removed. one of that, one of the in one way, that is the portrait of the former chairman of the joint chiefs, general mark milley. you see the picture there now, chris, that picture was only hung up and unveiled about two weeks ago in mid january, now gone. and i can tell you we walk past it every single day. and not only is the

photo gone, but crews came in at some point and removed those pegs that you can see on the wall. and now there's literally no evidence that there was ever, ever even a portrait there. chris. >> except a hole in the wall. courtney, qb, i know you'll keep us posted on any new developments. thank you. and still to come. parts of texas are dealing with a winter storm like it's never seen in its history. just how cold and disruptive it's getting there. but first, we'll go inside the new plans and possible new digs for one of president trump's right hand men, elon musk. you're watching chris jansing you're watching chris jansing reports only on t-mobile's 5g network connects a hundred thousand delta employees so they can make every customer feel like they've arrived before they've left the ground. this is how business goes further with t-mobile for business.

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place. and now, notably last night in the oval office, when donald trump actually signed the executive order, it was worth noting that they are actually making doj's simply renaming an existing white house unit. that was the digital service unit in the executive office of the president, as a means of potentially avoiding some of that scrutiny over being an outside entity. now, as part of that executive order, there was notations that there would be an administrator of d.o.j. who would report to the chief of staff. siouxsie wiles and the white house. it is not clear whether elon musk will be that administrator or not, in the extent to which they will require him under federal law to provide, for example, financial disclosures. so there's still a lot of outstanding questions as to exactly the amount the public will be made aware of the internal conversations. and specifically on elon musk, the extent to which he is involved with at a federal government level, as much as one as an outside consulting type of a

situation. >> what we do know, michael, is that elon musk posted on x a photo of donald trump regaining the potus social media handle, and what he wrote was, quote, you see it there at the top. the return of the king. any concerns about the world's richest man? having the president's ear may be an office down the hall. and also, trump said that musk will be getting an office for 20 people. how do you see this working? >> i don't, it's just a hot mess. you know, i don't know what the lawsuits say. haven't had a chance to look at them yet, but they're legitimate and it's a legitimate concern. the world's richest man is sitting across the street from the from the oval office. he clearly has more power than the vice president of the united states. he clearly has more influence than any member of congress. he is going you know, they want to create this entity in which there's no ethical oversight, there's no governmental oversight. and, you know, he's

going to run roughshod and protect his little fiefdom. look, this is i've said it from the very beginning, from the very first day this man was announced for this job, that the goal that the deal he's cut with trump is to become the world's first trillionaire. he's a half $1 billion away from that. you don't think this man that we're looking at is going to make a half $1 billion over the next four years under donald trump? hell, yes. when you consider that his that trump's son in law walked away from the white house with a $2 billion saudi deal. so tell me that. tell me how this is not going to work for these folks. but here's the rub. no one in washington gives a damn. not on capitol hill, not on k street, because they're all trying to figure out how they get a piece of it or get protected. so their little fiefdom does not get exercised by by doge or whatever the hell is calling itself. so we're we're all bought in here onto

this. the american people signed on the dotted line, do more of this. and they think that they're going to benefit. look, you cannot you're not you're going to slash $2 trillion out of the nation's off the nation's book. where are you getting it from? they're not telling you where it's coming from. and you know who's going to ultimately pay for it. all the all the maga in places like alabama and mississippi who already rely on a lot of federal dollars to make their ends meet in those states. it's not going to hurt california. it's not going to hurt new york. they contribute massive amounts of dollars and get back very few federal dollars. where this comes home to roost is in the very center of maga land, and they seem to be okay with that. so cut away, my friend, and just let the squealing begin. >> so, vaughn, what happened to vivek ramaswamy? >> vivek ramaswamy is not going in to doge inside of this white

house here. he's going and intends to run for governor of ohio, which was a long planned effort. except we were initially told by sources that he intended to stick with doge and work with elon musk to go and do exactly what he said he was going to do during his own presidential campaign, which was this idea of cutting down on the administrative state and going and slashing not only the federal budget, but also going across departments and agencies and restructuring them. of course, the promise to do that was is very difficult when it comes to actually going about that, for example, to get rid of agencies that require congressional authorization under the presidential reorganization act. and there it's not clear that discussions had been had about seeking congressional approval. and of course, when you're cutting down agencies and departments, to michael's point, there's repercussions for that. and there was never a clear outline at all that was provided as to where they intended to cut from the federal budget. number one,

elon musk has already walked back his claim that he would be able to cut $2 trillion from the annual budget, and there has been a lack of specifics from vivek ramaswamy or elon musk, exactly how they would eliminate agencies or even departments under the trump administration, executive branch vaughn hillyard, michael steele, thank you both. >> gentlemen. good to see you. it's quick and it's coordinated. the legal pushback we're seeing a matter of hours after president trump announced his plans for the border. stay close. more chris jansing close. more chris jansing reportslet's get started. bill, where's your mask? i really tried sleeping with it, everybody. but i'm done struggling. now i sleep with inspire. inspire? inspire is a sleep apnea treatment that works inside my body with just the click of this button. a button? no mask? no hose? just sleep. yeah but you need the hose, you need the air, you need the whoooooosh... inspire. sleep apnea innovation.

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