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they're still asking what the hell happened? >> it is good to be back with you on this second hour of chris jansing reports at this hour. the art of the deal. this time, donald trump is face to face with top republican congressional leaders at the white house for the big plans for his second term. the razor thin margins they're up against. cases closed with a single signature. donald trump abruptly ends the biggest investigation in justice department history, pardoning nearly all of the almost 1600 january 6th criminal defendants. the reaction from inside the doj plus waiting game, the scene outside the dc jail as families and supporters of those defendants gather for their release. also, the case already against trump. 19 democratic attorneys general
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banding together to challenge the president's executive order on birthright citizenship. our nbc news reporters are following all of the latest developments. we begin with president trump's meeting with top congressional republicans today. nbc's garrett haake is at the white house for us. are there signs, garrett, of a plan taking shape to implement the president's agenda? >> well, chris, the challenge for the president is that there are essentially two plans, and they are still in conflict about whether to try to attack his congressional agenda, his legislative agenda with one major bill or with two smaller bills. and the two men, he'll be meeting with, john thune and mike johnson, don't necessarily fully agree on which way is best. do you get a quick win, quick sort of a relative term here by trying to do two bills and perhaps back up the president on border security early, leave the tax question for later. or do you try to do it all at once? neither of these things will be easy, as the house majority for republicans is now smaller even than it was
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at about this time yesterday, with mike waltz having finally resigned his seat to take over as trump's national security adviser. and so this is a decision that will be perhaps made in the oval office today. but if the biden administration's challenges with these so-called reconciliation, one party only bills is any illustration, it's a decision that might be made and made again along the way, as the legislative speed bumps come into closer focus, the more they actually get to work. >> all right. thank you so much for that, garrett. let's go to some breaking news now, because we've just learned that senators have received an affidavit containing new allegations against defense secretary nominee pete hegseth. nbc's julie sirkin helped break this story. she joins us now. what more can you tell us? >> well, chris, this is significant because for the first time, we are hearing on the record of somebody who spoke directly with samantha hegseth during the time in which she was married to pete hegseth, who shared concerns, fearing for her safety. i'm talking about danielle hicks. she's the former
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sister in law to both samantha and pete hegseth. she says in this copy of this affidavit, a redacted version. quote, i have chosen to come forward publicly as significant personal sacrifice because i am deeply concerned by what hicks says confirmation would mean for our military and our country. she adds that part of her reason, and this is so significant, chris, for coming forward, is because i have been assured that making this public statement will ensure that certain senators who are still on the fence will vote against hicks. that's confirmation. but for that insurance, i would not subject myself or others referred to in this statement to the public scrutiny. this statement is likely to cause. this has been the culmination of days of work from committee staffers on the armed services committee, who have been first in touch with somebody with secondhand knowledge of these allegations. then they were directly in touch with danielle hicks. this was a work in progress to get her to come forward. reid, who is the top democrat on the panel that was considering this nomination, he actually sent danielle hegseth a
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letter over the weekend that we have obtained asking her to detail any examples of abuse or threatening conduct conduct from pete hegseth toward any of his ex-wives. and now we have this result, which is this affidavit, which is currently being viewed by some senators. this is just started to happen after we've obtained the redacted version of this affidavit. and i'll tell you, chris, that yesterday hegseth was reported out of the committee on a party line vote, 14 to 13. that vote was swift. it sets up a full senate vote, potentially as early as thursday. that is significant because once the full senate votes and approves his nomination, he only needs a simple majority, which means 51 need to vote for him. and of course, there's a 53 threshold of republicans in the senate. that means he would be confirmed as secretary of defense unless something happens to tank his nomination. in this affidavit, danielle hicks makes a reference of having confirmation that there will be enough senators, meaning at least four republicans that will side with
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all democrats to tank that nomination. at this point, of course, we don't know if that's going to happen since this is freshly developing. i will also point out we did hear back from a texas attorney. we heard back from his spokesperson as well, and they are denying any of these allegations and saying that danielle hicks is somebody that has not gotten along with pete hegseth. so rapid fire developments here. but this is what we can bring you, chris. >> well, julie, just last night, one of our producers on the hill, frank thorp, spoke with republican senator roger wicker, asking him about this. exactly. and i want to play that for you. >> are you worried that more allegations might come out? >> i'm not worried, but i certainly wouldn't be surprised. we're going to have those sorts of things, and if anything concrete comes out, certainly our democrat friends will be free to voice those. >> we're going to leave it there. >> it's one thing to say, democrat friends, but of course, we're also looking at the republican side. are there particular republican senators
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who you'll be watching closely? and even if you vote for him in the initial round, that gets it out of committee. can you change your vote? >> well, his nomination is already reported out of committee, meaning somebody like joni ernst, who, of course, is a combat veteran, a sexual assault survivor. she already voted, along with every other republican on that panel, to bring that process out of committee and on to the full senate floor. so it is now in the hands of the full senate to consider this. and that statement by wicker is so important here, because yesterday he was talking about whispers of anonymous allegations. chris, we have been reporting this story for weeks, and we have asked questions to both his office, to the transition to the attorney for mr. hegseth, to samantha hegseth herself, before knowledge of this affidavit even came to light. and all we heard back from all parties is this notion of anonymous smears, this notion that you heard in texas,
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confirmation hearing of anonymous names from that monterey memo accusing him of sexual assault, which he had denied to any of these new allegations of potential threats or abuse that he may or may not have made to his ex-wives. i will just tell you very clearly here that he's said so far is denying all of it. samantha hegseth, importantly telling us today, telling my colleague courtney colby today that she said that she was not physically abused in the marriage. she also signed a divorce document, which was entered into the record by roger wicker, the top republican on the committee, during the confirmation hearing, saying that she and pete hegseth, both parties, were not victims of domestic abuse. they signed that document. we have not gotten a response, though. we have asked why samantha heck said, signed that document. chris. >> julie sirkin, thank you for bringing us that breaking news now to president trump's sweeping pardons. of the roughly 1500 january 6th defendants. so what happens now? nbc's ryan riley has been looking into
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that. and what did you find out, ryan? >> yeah, i mean, so these pardons are going to are, you know, inactive and they're going to start to roll out. i think that that's what we've seen already. you know, i've seen a number of filings from the from the dc, u.s. attorney, the interim dc, u.s. attorney motioning to dismiss these cases. so this process is going to play out in the in the pending cases. you know, obviously, people who are already serving their sentence, that's more of something that plays out on the bop side. but there's all these pending cases, you know, normally on a daily basis, if the court is open for business, there's at least 1 or 2 or 3 or 4 january 6th cases making their way through, whether that's for a status conference, whether that's for a sentencing. so we did see some cases today where the charges were just were dismissed against individuals, even though there were these cases pending. so we're going to continue to see that that motion going forward. and it's all being headed by the interim dc, u.s. attorney, who, of course, is someone named ed martin who has spread conspiracy theories about january 6th itself and was on the board of an organization called patriots
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freedom project, which had a close relationship with with the trump campaign and actually held fundraisers at trump's properties and advocated for a lot of these, these january 6th defendants. and, you know, we've seen a lot of reaction already rolling in from as these january 6th defendants are being released from prison. >> chris ryan riley, thank you so much. and all that brings me to the dc jail, where supporters are waiting for more of those january 6th defendants to be released. nbc's gary grumbach is there for us. what's the scene like? >> hey there kristie, it has been about 18 hours since president trump signed the pardons of 1500 folks that were involved in the january 6th attack on the capitol. and folks have been since then sitting out here, standing out here, they've been singing at times, they've been chanting. at times they've been talking to each other. a lot of live streamers here as well, and enjoying and enjoying each other's company, but also really hoping for their friends and families to come out here.
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in terms of the types of folks that are out here, this is not the typical folks that you would see at any other trump rally. these are some proud boys, members of the proud boys, the militia organization. these are some of the real, real far right folks that are true believers of president trump and have friends and family that are inside the dc jail here. as you can see, the metropolitan police department has fully come out in force here around the dc jail. just keeping things safe here. we do believe there are at least 20 or so folks that are still in the dc jail that have been pardoned. they're certainly a part of processing that needs to go forward here. but this morning, our local nbc affiliate here in washington, wrc, talked to stuart rhodes, the head of the proud boys. he was in federal prison in pennsylvania. and here's what he had to say. >> i think it's a good day for america that this is being all the wrongs are being undone. so none of these people should have been here in the first place. none of them were ever tried in a fair and fair trial. i think trump did the right thing. president trump did the right thing by letting these guys out
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and partying them, because they did not get a fair trial. that's not on him. that's on the doj. >> now, there's many family members that are here as well of folks that are inside the dc jail. they're very excited to see their sons and daughters come out. and i asked one of them what the first thing you're going to do? and they said, tell them i love them. chris. >> gary grumbach, thank you for that. now, to the at least 19 democratic attorneys general who are suing to block president trump's attempt to end birthright citizenship, msnbc lisa rubin is following this for us. walk us through the lawsuit and what we think might come of it. well, chris, let me. >> first flag for you that as our lawrence hurley has just let us know, there are four other states that have filed their own separate lawsuit, bringing the total to 23. but this lawsuit essentially says that birthright citizenship is enshrined in the constitution, that there is no authority for the action that president trump took yesterday, and that this decision would impact nearly 150,000 children born in america every year,
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including in the plaintiff states. they also say that they're not just bringing this lawsuit as sort of the custodians of all of the residents who live in their state, but rather because they have a financial interest in their citizens and residents entitlement to services from the federal government. if the federal government is no longer going to provide services for non-citizens, and if they don't include within the definition of citizens people who are born within the u.s. to non-citizen parents, then it means that these states will have to provide those services themselves to great cost, including health care, nutrition, special education services, foster care, and more. they're asking the court for a declaration that this action is unconstitutional and for a preliminary and permanent injunction of the executive order preventing the president from taking these actions and presenting all federal agencies from doing anything in pursuit of ending birthright citizenship to those born after february 18th, 2025. as the executive
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order says. chris. >> lisa, ruben, thank you from the legal fight over donald trump's border policy to what's happening right now on the ground that's in 90s. plus, the message directed to the president on this very issue, as he was attending the national prayer service this morning. >> the vast majority of immigrants are not criminals. they pay taxes. and are good neighbors. they are faithful members of our churches and members of our churches and mosques, synagogues. ever feel like a spectator in your own life with chronic migraine? 15 or more headache days a month, each lasting 4 hours or more. botox® prevents headaches in adults with chronic migraine. in a survey, 91% of users wish they'd started sooner. so why wait? talk to your doctor. botox® effects may spread hours to weeks after injection, causing serious symptoms. alert your doctor right away as trouble swallowing, speaking, breathing, eye problems, or muscle weakness can be signs of a life-threatening condition.
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ice is back doing their job effective today. >> let's bring in nbc news homeland security correspondent julia ainsley. veronica cardenas is a former assistant chief counsel for ice and founder of human migration and msnbc political analyst, and former republican congressman carlos curbelo joins us as well. julia, i want to start with this state of emergency and how we're going to see it manifest itself. >> right. well, of course, trump has issued a state of emergency so that he can use the military at the border. he was pretty clear, though, in the executive order, that the military would only be used for to build deportation space and to do transportation at the border. they would not violate the constitution by going and arresting migrants. of course, that could change if they do any kind of operations in mexico. now that he's designated some of the cartels and gangs there as foreign terrorist organizations. but this national emergency could also allow him to use his alien invasion act, where he's going to be able to vastly expand the way dod works with ice to expand detention. but i wanted to zero in for a second
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there on what homan said, because i actually had a chance just to speak to homan shortly after he made those remarks right down here in our lobby. and i said, look, the way you're asking your you're talking we're trying to figure out if something here has actually changed. are these just day to day operations? because, believe it or not, arrests and deportations happened all the time under the biden administration. i was just on a flight last week that took 100 people back to honduras. and so he said the change here is that they've assigned more people. but he declined to say how many people, i said, now assigned to these operations, what we could see is kind of a compression, anything that we're going to be doing over the next month, they'll now try to do in a three week or three day or week long span. chris, i think that's something to watch for what is actually changing on the ground, because as we saw in the last administration, there can be big, broad swaths of executive order that's actually pretty hard to carry out in practice. >> well, veronica, from a real world day to day perspective, how do these orders change the
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situation for people following the letter of our immigration law? for those who may not be following the law, how do you read what we just heard? reported by julia? >> i think that one of the things i do want to point out is the way this is going to change. i think the investigations, the targeted approach that homan had talked about that has always been done. but i think what's going to change in this administration is the arrest of collaterals and collaterals is anyone who is in the vicinity, who's in the area of these targeted investigations. and we have heard him say this before, that everyone should fear immigration, everyone should fear this. and so what i believe they're going to do is make the conditions so harsh, so unjust that migrants are just going to throw their hands up and voluntarily go home. >> all right, congressman, i also want to talk about what has gotten a lot of attention. more than 20 state attorneys general
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are challenging president trump's executive order, ending birthright citizenship. is this most likely, do you think, to be decided in the courts by congress? neither. what happens with birthright citizenship. >> chris. this will very likely end up being decided by the u.s. supreme court. and this has been a point of emphasis from donald trump back since 2018. i remember right before those midterm elections, the first of his first term, he was talking about this issue and a lot of republicans running at the time, myself included, were worried that that was going to be hurtful in in swing districts. and republicans did suffer a pretty big defeat in the 2018 election. but this is something that there's a lot of consensus that this is firmly grounded in the constitution, in the 14th amendment. so definitely this will go to the courts. maybe you'll get some kind of nuanced decision by the supreme court. but it's important to note that the order only affects people
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being born as of the next, you know, after the next 30 days in the country. so it's not retroactive. that should really calm a lot of people's fears. and secondly, i do believe that ultimately the courts will sustain what has been just commonly held over a long time. now that this is firmly ingrained in the constitution. >> and, veronica, so many things going on. president trump also reinstated the remain in mexico policy that requires asylum seekers to wait there for their court hearings. but former homeland security secretary jeh johnson predicted that that move could backfire. i want to play what he said. >> mexico has to agree to the program. right. and i suspect what this administration does not appreciate is a large reason why the numbers have gone down so significantly is because the mexican government is doing more on their southern border with central america to turn these people around. if you all of a
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sudden unilaterally say to mexico, you're keeping these people, it makes it less likely that they're going to cooperate with us, and the numbers are going to go up. >> and mexican president claudia sheinbaum said that it's important to always keep a cool head regarding trump's immigration orders. but what impact would a reinstated remain in mexico policy have on asylum seekers? >> essentially, i think what this move is doing is really taking away asylum as we know it. it is the beginning of the end, and that's because having people stay in mexico to go through their asylum or their asylum case just brings so many legal hurdles. number one, the access to counsel. it is very difficult for immigration attorneys right now to deal with and to contact clients that are detained in louisiana that are detained in calexico. i can't imagine the difficulty that it's going to be to speak to clients who are detained in mexico because of a large array of
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issues. and then there's the issues of going across the border to physically meet with them, because attorneys do need to physically meet with their clients. and then the issues of, of crime, a lot of these asylum seekers, they're so vulnerable and they're being pushed into more vulnerable situations where they will be preyed by mexican cartels, that the women, the children, they will be sexually abused. and essentially, the u.s. government is just taking a step back from that and letting mexico handle this. so i do agree with with the statement that more people are going to try to come in and seek asylum from a safe place. >> these very complicated issues that maybe cannot be resolved by the stroke of a pen. i want to go on to something else if i can, congressman, as a final look, because included in this blitz of executive orders is a promise to withdraw the u.s. from the world health organization and the proclamation that there are only two genders, male and female. do
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you think these kinds of things are they for show? are they to placate his base? do they present a real concern? >> look, chris, of course they're concerns of the united states starts withdrawing from international organizations. that means that we no longer have a voice at those organizations. now, i will say these are wins for donald trump that i don't think have a very high cost here at home. i don't think there are a lot of people worried about whether or not we're in the world health organization, and i do think republicans, and especially trump, perceive that they are on offense when it comes to culture war issues. republicans believe that this last election result confirms that most americans are with them on culture issues. so i think they're going to keep pushing on this front. the question is how far they push. right. and we'll see in the 2026 elections if they have gone too far or not. but for right now, republicans are very confident that most americans support this
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push on the cultural front and this withdrawal from international organizations. >> julia ainsley, veronica cardona and congressman carlos curbelo. more conversations to come. thank you very much. we have a brand new msnbc newsletter to tell you about, because there is a lot to follow. as president donald trump's white house agenda takes shape. you can follow the coverage of trump's first 100 days just by scanning the qr code on your screen. to sign up now, just go to msnbc.com/trump 100. if you don't want to use the qr code, you'll receive weekly updates, expert insight on the key issues and figures defining the second term all straight to your inbox. the first edition comes from brendan buck comparing how trump enters the white house this time compared to eight years ago, so make sure to check it out. well, the winter blast freezing much of the country is slamming the gulf coast. if you want to get an idea of how much snow is falling, that's actually the superdome. you can almost see
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front triggered the first ever blizzard warning for areas of southern texas and louisiana, where conditions are already deadly. texas officials say there were multiple fatalities that one at 1 a.m. after a massive accident an hour west of san antonio, the heavy snow preventing medical helicopters from being able to respond, and energy demand has been soaring in parts of southern texas not accustomed to the bitter cold, texas power officials sent out an emergency alert warning of freezing precipitation, disrupting the power there. and winter storms are so rare in louisiana that a local radio network reports there are no snow plows stored anywhere in the state. zero. so emergency teams had to bring in plows from arkansas. nbc's george solace is in baton rouge, and nbc meteorologist bill karins is here with me. george, i spent some time in baton rouge. where you're standing does not look like the city i've been to.
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>> yeah, that's right chris. i mean, i've covered snowfalls in philadelphia, boston, all over new england. this looks more like that than what we're seeing here. this is remarkable. and about four inches on the ground here in baton rouge, about four inches in new orleans. and you're right, we actually spent some time with the department of transportation saying thank goodness for our neighbors in arkansas who have us some snowplows, because otherwise this could be very, very serious. and some of the roadways here that have been untreated very treacherous. we drove out earlier when it was still safe to do so, and it was tricky. there was definitely people that were not used to driving in this snow. that is saying a lot. we're seeing some people sliding out of control. of course, people are heeding the warnings. they are staying safe. they hunkered down, they got their supplies. but on that note, we were actually at some stores earlier, and we did see a shortage of some of the food, some of the water, some of the frozen food section that was all picked apart, people taking this storm very seriously. we heard from governor landrieu asking people to, of course, just stay indoors while this event passes.
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we heard again from one of those managers at one of those stores that we stopped at earlier today about the supplies. here's what he told us. supplies went quick. >> went quick. it's a big rush between yesterday and today. a lot of people trying to catch up, get everything ready for the storm and you can see by the drinks we're out of coke, sprites, everything right now. so it was a mostly canned goods. when you from where we're from, you don't really expect it to get this bad. you know, we don't have our belief in how bad it actually can get. but, yeah, we really was caught blindsided by it. >> yeah. chris, as you mentioned, of course, there have been some fatalities related to this storm, which is of course, tragic. some people here in the louisiana area that are hunkered down are still coming out, taking some photos with the snow. they're having some snowball fights. i mean, the snow. i can tell you again, pretty light and fluffy. so those that are able to come out and enjoy it are doing so. but again, they're being asked to do so safely. chris. >> yeah, stay in your own neighborhood. thank you so much for that. get warm george. bill
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i mean, come on, how long are they supposed to put up with this? >> yeah, i mean, this is novel. i mean, this is a in some cases, once in a lifetime snow. this is not something that happens very often. i've never in my 25 years of doing this had given a forecast like this for this far to the south, the last time new orleans and houston got a storm like this was like the late 1800s. so here's our totals. houston downtown measured about four inches. new orleans we're at four inches. plus, this was about an hour or two ago. it's still snowing hard. lake charles at six, one spot in louisiana, over ten inches of snow. it is snowing in the panhandle of florida. you are going to smash your state snowfall record the most it's ever snowed in florida from in one day from any snowstorm was four inches. we're going to crush that. someone's going to get over six, maybe eight here, especially the western portions of the panhandle. it is snowing in pensacola. montgomery. here's new orleans. the bright white shows you heavy snow. you notice where george is located here in baton rouge. a little lighter there in the blue. you're almost done. maybe another inch on top of the 6 to 8 you have. and look at this additional snow today.
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tallahassee 3 to 5in even jacksonville, florida will see some sleet or some snow. savannah, georgia. you've never had a snowstorm with more than 2.7in. we're predicting 3 to 6. so this is historic. there are not enough plows. there's not enough salt. so it's kind of fun and novel for the kids and the pets and everything else. there's a million social media videos of people out in the snow, but by the time we get to tomorrow and the day after that, when people are still stuck in their homes with their kids and their pets, it's not going to be as pretty. and that's where we start worrying about power outages, too. and as far as the cold goes, still 180 million people this morning was the peak. i mean, it was brutal this morning. i mean, it's still -21 in chicago. minneapolis is still -16. but tomorrow morning no picnic either. chris, we're going to be at 19 in pensacola tomorrow morning. so that snow, which typically you see in the south melts right away. chris not this time. it's going to take 2 or 3 days. that's why we're worried about people. yeah. they can't go on the roads. you know, there's not enough plows to even remotely clear the side streets. >> i gave one of my brothers for
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christmas a puzzle board with 1000 piece puzzles. and he's in cleveland. okay. actually, he's probably in a colder place. he's to the east of cleveland, right near the lake. so with the wind chill, wind chill of -23. david, get that puzzle. >> get the puzzle. we want to see a picture of it tomorrow. okay. thousand pieces challenge. >> all right, bill karins. thank you. well, today, southern california still isn't out of the woods after two weeks of deadly and destructive wildfires. even as some neighborhoods do begin their recovery. 13 million people today under active fire alerts at 63% containment. officials say the palisades fire still poses a risk because winds could ramp up to dangerous levels again tomorrow and overnight. hurricane force gusts of up to 100mph fanned three fires that popped up near san diego, forcing at least 86 people to evacuate. nbc's dana griffin is reporting from los angeles. dana, how serious do fire officials think this wind threat could be this week? >> well, it's very serious.
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those red flag warnings are in effect until later this afternoon, possibly this evening. and there's still a weather a fire weather watch through thursday. so although the winds are dying down compared to what we were seeing overnight, there is still a major threat out there because conditions are ripe. you've got dry conditions plus wind conditions. maybe not as powerful as those red flag warnings, but still powerful enough to spread fires. so this is video from the san diego region, where we had three new fires pop up overnight, which was a very concerning situation, because anytime you've got a wildfire in the middle of the night while evacuation orders are being issued, it's a challenge for people. some people are sleeping. also, you've got an issue for firefighters. we're seeing some ground crews here, but officials in that region say what really helped them get the lilac fire, this this large fire under control, was that they had these night vision helicopters that were able to pinpoint those spots where they were able to make air drops, and that was a
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huge success in that region, in that region. so two of those fires that popped up overnight have been extinguished. and the lilac fire, which is about 10% contained, has mostly been the flames in that fire has mostly been put out, but there's still some lasting impacts. the bosnia school district is closed for the day and several people remain without power. they shut off the power as a safety precaution because of those winds. chris. >> dana griffin, i know you'll keep us posted. thank you for that. and coming up on chris jansing reports putting donald trump's promises to the test. we'll break down the trump economic agenda and how it will economic agenda and how it will affect your bottom line. new projects means new project managers. you need to hire. i need indeed. indeed you do. when you sponsor a job on indeed, it's easier for talented candidates to find it. which makes it easier for you to hire them. visit indeed.com/hire (auctioneer) let's start the bidding at 5 million dollars. (man) robinhood gold members get a 3% ira match.s it easier for you to hire them. while the wealthy hoard their perks,
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left office. it's even bigger. the economy is strong. rolling along with that inflation number, something people would like to see lower prices. and he's trying to promise that he will lower prices. so among the things that he has said he will do aggressive tariffs, tax cuts, deportations, deregulation we've got some of that yesterday. he hasn't started the tariffs yet though. he started the clock ticking on tariffs and made a framework. now many mainstream economists will say it. tariffs especially big ones could mean more inflation could mean job cuts. so there's a lot of discussion about what would happen if he gets what is the cornerstone of his economic agenda through he needs he wants more tax cuts. he wants to make middle class tax cuts permanent. they expire at the end of the year. so expect chris a big fight over tax reform. but tax cuts, those costs money deportations. we know yesterday he declared a state of emergency at the border. a lot of business leaders and people watching the economy, watching deportations very carefully for what that will mean for the housing market, the labor shortage and potentially higher prices and deregulation. this is something he promised in the first term
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and business loved. and again, many people watching the stock market hope that deregulation will be good for overall investors. just to step back a second here, you can see that the first term for donald trump lost jobs overall because of covid, right? a good job recovery in the months and quarters since then with with joe biden. that's how we kind of end the end of the two, the two terms, if we look at them back to back and the stock market is up again here today, it rallied a lot under his first administration, kept going under joe biden and is up today many people watching to see if this aggressive agenda, chris will either help the stock market or maybe hurt it. chris. >> christine romans, i have a feeling we'll be talking a lot more about this in the future. thank you. still to come, what we know about the deadly shooting of a border patrol agent just a few miles from canada. you're watching chris canada. you're watching chris jansing reports only on molly leaving was one thing. but then i thought mom's osteoporosis might keep us stuck on the couch. no way.
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does appear to be holding for a second full day. but here's president trump's response when asked if he thinks that will remain the case. >> i'm not confident. >> it's not our war. it's their war. >> but i'm. >> not confident. but i think they're very weakened on the other side. >> do you support the gaza? >> i looked at a picture of gaza. gaza is like a massive demolition site that places. it's really a it's got to be rebuilt in a different way. >> nbc's raf sanchez is reporting for us from tel aviv. it's kind of a split screen, right? you have this fragile peace in gaza, a surge in violence in the west bank. what are the major players there saying about where this all goes from here? >> yeah. >> chris split screen is right. you saw president trump there sitting at the resolute desk signing executive orders. one of those executive orders was to revoke sanctions that the biden administration had imposed on israeli extremists in the west bank. at almost the same minute,
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the president trump was signing that executive order, some of those settlers were, as you said, on a rampage, setting fire to palestinian homes, attacking property. the israeli military says they even attacked israeli troops who tried to step in and intervene. and then earlier today, the israeli military, launching this new operation in jenin in the northern west bank, prime minister benjamin netanyahu saying that this is an operation called iron wall, that they are trying to root out terrorism in that city. but palestinian human rights groups say a number of palestinian civilians have already been killed by israeli fire during that operation. so that new instability in the west bank is the bad news. the good news is this relative calm in gaza, hundreds more aid trucks getting into gaza today. hamas saying it will release more israeli hostages on saturday. and chris, we got a chance to visit
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beilinson. schneider complex. it's one of the hospitals here in tel aviv that is preparing to receive that next batch of hostages. take a look. how do you feel when you think about the hostages coming back to rooms like this? >> oh, my god, i can't even. you just said that sentence and i'm all in goosebumps. i keep telling myself it's not about us, it's about them. but you just said that sentence, and i can't. i can't stop smiling just for the thought that they would enter a safe room. they will be able to sleep in a safe room. they will see their families. their families will get to see them to know what happened to them. and it's just very, very exciting. >> so four more hostages released on saturday. we expect they will all be women. and chris, at this point, no firm indication when any americans may come out of gaza. chris.
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>> what a beautiful interview. ralph sanchez, thank you for that. now to the fatal shooting of a u.s. border patrol agent in vermont just 12 miles south of the canadian border. according to federal officials, the agent was shot and killed in the line of duty, along with another unidentified person. a third person involved was wounded and is now in custody. nbc's tom winter is following this for us, and i know the fbi is investigating. what more can we know? >> that's exactly right, chris. and it's. >> actually the. >> fbi albany field office, which has this. >> part of the country. >> so it is in northern vermont, around newport, vermont, approximately 15 miles from the border. when this incident took place yesterday, there have been an uptick in crossings over the northern border, certainly nothing along the lines of what we've seen along the southern border. but it isn't clear yet because we haven't got a lot of details, both from the department of homeland security, which of course, oversees the customs and border protection agents. we haven't gotten an update from them as far as who this agent might have been. we also don't have information yet from the fbi, though i suspect
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we'll hear more information later today. as far as an update on this case and their investigation, who specifically? to your point, you alluded to this individual who might be in custody. any specific charges there, and who were these individuals? obviously, the customs and border protection is not trolling the i-91 in vermont looking for people going five over the speed limit. so what was it that draw this agent's attention? is there any sort of prior criminal history, any sort of prior immigration history here that could have led to this incident occurring? but we know it's been an area of focus for law enforcement along the northern border, as i said. and so we'll just wait and see if we can get some more details today. but obviously, of course, tragically, there's been a loss of life here involving this customs and border patrol agent. hopefully we'll have more. >> a reminder of the work they do for us to keep us safe every day. tom winter, thank you so much. and that is going to do it for us this hour. make sure to join us for chris jansing reports every weekday, 1 to 3 p.m. eastern right here on p.m. eastern right here on msnbc. our coverage con
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