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safety. danielle hegseth says she chose to come forward with the sworn statement because she fears for the military, and that she was assured that going on the record with her name would ensure certain undecided senators would vote against hegseth. a lawyer for pete hegseth dismissed the allegations, and the wife in question against samantha is dismissing them as well, telling nbc news in part, i do not believe your information to be accurate. in their divorce settlement, both pete hegseth and samantha signed a 2021 court document that said neither claimed to be the victim of domestic abuse. joining us now, nbc news correspondent covering national security and the pentagon, courtney colby, nbc news white house correspondent vaughn hillyard, nbc news chief capitol hill correspondent ryan nobles, and senior national political correspondent with the atlantic and msnbc political analyst ashley parker. courtney, i'm going to begin with you

because i'm curious about the reaction and the anticipation to peggy hegseth at the pentagon. and i do want to give a big shout out to our colleague julie sorkin on the hill, who spearheaded this incredible reporting. but but tell us, how is this landing at the pentagon, and what is the pentagon's feelings or feeling generally as the nomination moves forward, at least for now? >> yeah. and it's julie sirkin on the hill. and then also our colleague sarah fitzpatrick, who's one of our senior investigative producer. this has been a tremendous group effort getting to this reporting. now on this this affidavit. i'll get to your question about about how this is being received here so far. but the affidavit was submitted by, as you said, pete hegseth. former sister in law, danielle hegseth. and it's really telling katie she it is again, it is a sworn affidavit that she submitted to the senate armed services in response to a january 18th letter from the ranking member, senator jack reed, asking for more information about information that she has about the marriage

and the time that that pete hegseth and samantha hegseth were married. now, in it, she details times where she was told by samantha hegseth, his ex-wife, that she feared for her safety because of pete hegseth s behavior. now, as you said, and i want to read this because i want to give the entire statement here. we did reach out to samantha hegseth first. we heard back from her on monday. we reached out to her again today. and she she does deny that there was any physical abuse in her marriage. and she's asking and she does say that she doesn't want to speak anymore about her marriage to pete hegseth, as you mentioned. his attorney, tim parlatore, also denying this and pointing to a court order that they both signed in their marriage that denies any physical abuse. that being said, katie, this is in an affidavit signed by pete hegseth, former sister in law, that details real claims of fear that samantha had while the two of them were married. she also talks about indications that

that pete hegseth would drink too much on certain occasions. she lays those out and why this is so critical, why we're even talking about this, katie, is because this information now has gone to capitol hill to senators. of course, pete hegseth nomination did. he got voted out of the senate armed services committee last night, but he still faces a full vote on the senate, where he has to get a majority of the senators in order to actually become secretary of defense. that could come as early as this week. but the reaction that we're looking for now is could in fact, this affidavit again sworn a sworn and signed statement by his former sister in law with these allegations. how will that impact some senators? we have been hearing for weeks that some have been concerned about voting yes for him. some have since come out and said, like joni ernst, senator curtis from utah, saying that they would vote for him. but the reality is, not all republican senators have made clear how they will vote on this nomination. and then finally, on

the nomination in and of itself. you know, this has been a really interesting one to track, katie, because there is some concern about his policy pronouncements that he's made in his books, in writing, while he was on television as a host at fox and friends, some more senior officers have expressed concerns to me about that, particularly his comments about women in combat. but when i have asked some of the more junior members enlisted, there is some excitement about the notion of pete hegseth being the secretary of defense. they like the idea, as he said in his confirmation hearing, of someone who has dirt or sand on his boots, they like the idea of someone who knows what kind of ammunition goes in the rifle that they fire, that kind of thing. so there is a real difference of opinion here. the military is not a monolith, and we're definitely seeing that when it comes to opinion about pete hegseth as a potential secretary of defense. katie. >> that is a really good point. ryan, i want to ask you about some reaction on the hill, because what we're getting from danielle hegseth, from the sworn statement is that she was assured that there would be senators who were on the fence currently who are uneasy currently that would vote

against him. and i keep remembering this moment during his confirmation hearing from senator tim kaine. and i apologize. we don't have it to play for you, but i can read it. but he went back and forth with pete hegseth on non-disclosure agreements from his first and second wives confidentiality agreements. hegseth said it was not something he was aware of. he asked him, would you release them from those if they exist? and hegseth said, that's not my responsibility. and then there was this moment which is telling now, did you ever engage in any acts of physical violence against any of your wives? hague says said absolutely not. kaine goes on to say, but you would agree with me that if somebody had committed physical violence against their spouse, that would be disqualifying to serve as secretary of defense, correct? hegseth said. senator, absolutely not. i have never done that. kaine then presses him again. but you would say it would be disqualifying as an offense if that happened, would

you not if somebody were to do that, a hypothetical senator, you're talking about a hypothetical. he was very he didn't answer that directly. he didn't just say no, of course it would. it would disqualify them. and that caught my attention because i was wondering if senator kaine had any knowledge of an allegation that could be to come. and it seems like, yes, there were some senators who were aware of what danielle hegseth is now claiming. >> so. >> katie, that's a lot to unpack. first, let me say. that his ex-wife, samantha. >> hegseth. >> has said. >> on the record in a statement to us that she was not the victim of physical abuse and that she believes that some of the information that her ex sister in law provided is inaccurate. that being said, though, we've not seen the full contents of this affidavit, i should say that not all the senators have seen the full contents of this affidavit and what exactly his ex sister in law is accusing him of or saying was relayed to her about what

led her to believe that her sister in law was the victim and was that was living in a state of fear is how she described it. now, whether or not members of the committee were completely aware of this, and at what stage they became aware of it, i think has a lot to do with this vetting process. what i've heard over and over again from democrats on the panel, in fact, i just spoke with senator tammy duckworth, who has been very involved in this vetting process. there were real concerns from democrats that the fbi background check that the questionnaires that were submitted to hegseth were not being completely and fully investigatory of his entire background, meaning that there were people that they should have interviewed that they did not interview. there was even some question as to whether or not the ex-wives would be a part of this interview process, if their experience with him as a spouse would be detailed in this vetting process. so i think that there were there's always been concerns from that initial round of reporting that there would

continue to be a drip, drip, drip of information about hegseth and his background that would come to light during different periods of time. i think what is significantly different about this and the reporting that julie, courtney and sarah have done, is that we are now looking at a sworn affidavit from someone who has put their name on the record to detail their experience in relation to this nominee. that's in a much different universe than unnamed sources who make claims behind closed doors that are difficult to thoroughly vet and actually put a little bit of meat behind those accusations. and the question, katie. and it always comes back to this when it comes to this confirmation process, we know that democrats are already opposed to the nomination. he may not get one vote from a democrat. it comes down to whether or not that impacts that small group of republicans who have been skeptical from the very beginning and may continue to be skeptical. do they read this report and say, as she said, she

said, this is what the sister in law said. this is what the wife is saying. now, we just believe that this is an effort to try and kill this nomination. or do they put some validity behind it? do they want to ask more questions of maybe his ex-wife, maybe the former sister in law? all of those things could play a big role in whether or not this confirmation moves forward. remember, this is a nominee that donald trump has put his full weight behind. he has been willing to withstand all the arrows that have come in his direction and allowed the confirmation process to move forward. this is another challenge for the nomination, there's no doubt, but we're not going to really know the impact until we hear from republican senators who we believe are reviewing the report as we as we speak. katie. >> we're going to watch out for that. again, this is we're going to watch out for then that again, this is a woman who has now put her name on the record. but you also have denial from the person she's talking about. samantha hegseth, pete hegseth, second wife. so we'll see what those senators end up saying. yvonne, there's a lot of other things happening today.

obviously, there's a ton happening. one of the things is the republican leadership going to the white house. this is the majority leader, john thune, and the speaker of the house, mike johnson. what's that meeting going to entail? >> it's going to be. >> imperative for both of those men to not only have that direct line of communication with president trump, but also to get assurance from him as to the priorities that he has legislatively, the order in which those priorities are, you know, sought after and focused on up on capitol hill. because if you look back to just last month during the transition period, of course, donald trump was at the army-navy football game with john thune and with speaker johnson. and just two days later, elon musk and then president elect trump blew up the continuing resolution. that short term spending deal to keep the government budget ongoing. and you look, just in the last couple of weeks, there is also discrepancy over whether in 2025

up on capitol hill, republicans would seek to go forward with one major legislative package that was full of tax cut extensions and energy priorities and immigration. or go with the two bill option. and that's where donald trump is sort of wavered between both of those and left senate and house republicans on edge in questioning about the direction here to kick off this new session. and so for donald trump, this is the opportunity now that he is in office, to sit down with both of these men. just yesterday, he acknowledged there at the capitol with speaker johnson standing by his side, that the house republican leader has a very narrow margin. and as he joked, he said he only made it more difficult for him by nominating three house republicans and making this a razor thin majority for house republicans. so for donald trump, this is really key here, but also for those two men up on capitol hill to have an understanding of what the priorities coming out of the white house. >> i wonder, though, vaughn, is

it is it a two way street here? is this donald trump telling thune and johnson what he wants, or thune and johnson going to the president and saying, here's what we need? or is it just donald trump's agenda right now? >> i think that's a very good question. i think that donald trump potentially will be the best one to be able to answer that, because in the case of mike turner, who was the chair of the house intelligence committee, it was speaker mike johnson that made the move to push him off of the committee and suggested that it was his decision to do so. at the same time, we are well aware that the now president trump was not a fan of mike turner, who especially on ukraine funding and questioning of russian propaganda, was under deep scrutiny from the eyes of donald trump. and so this is a moment here where i think donald trump, both men have acknowledged, is going to be the one to set a really set the mission for capitol hill republicans. and they have left it in his hands to determine whether they go forward with one bill or two legislative packages. so right now, this is very much donald

trump's republican party and donald trump's washington. yet at the same time, clearly, both of these men want to work and cooperate with one another, but they need some direction here. from 1600 pennsylvania avenue. >> ashley, you surfaced something yesterday that i believe it was steve bannon that i thought was really interesting. and this was the fact that we saw those tech billionaires behind donald trump. and this is not the tech billionaires walking into washington with, you know, power at their hands. this is this was, in fact, donald trump showing that he's brought them to heel. they were like heads on a platter. and i wonder, is that what we're seeing with the republican party as well? i mean, in your you've been covering him for a long time as i have. there's definitely a different flavor to just the beginning of this second round, the way that donald trump has felt emboldened, what he's done, the fact that he he didn't pardon he didn't selectively pardon people for january 6th, he pardoned everybody, even the most violent ones, even the ones convicted of seditious

conspiracy. there is a certain sense of. bulletproof ness that that donald trump is operating with. like he can do no wrong whatsoever. and everybody has to bend to his will. is that how you saw yesterday's events, and if so, how do you anticipate the next 100 days are going to go? >> i mean, that's. >> exactly right, katie. >> you and i covered him. >> in 2016, and there was a sense when he won across the. >> nation. >> even from his own party, that it was a fluke, that it was an aberration, that. people who democrats or. >> people who didn't like trump, who stayed. >> home or. >> cast a protest vote. >> they did so because. >> they didn't think he could actually ever win. this time, it is very clear that it is not a fluke. it is not an aberration that people went to the polls for the first time in his three races, he won the popular vote. he won all of the swing states. so yes, he is behaving. and you just saw that yesterday. he did

not give. and to be clear, his american carnage inaugural address was not what you would call a traditional inaugural address. but i was struck even more. so this time. he's he's doing it the way he wants. he gave a sort of a mix between a rally rant and a state of the union, where, standing right next to outgoing president biden and vice president kamala harris, his opponent, he criticized their policies repeatedly. the america of theirs. under the last four years. and i think we are going to see that emboldened trump. i mean, you mentioned all of those pardons he gave. for what it's worth, it doesn't actually poll that well. a lot of americans, even republicans, don't love the idea of all of those j. six pardons, especially for the violent offenders. but at least on day one, that was clearly not a concern for trump. so yes, it was striking when i was doing that piece on all of these sort of tech bros, the tech oligarchy

coming to town. i sort of wondered if, you know, some of these executives were begging for a seat or what the dynamic was. but one thing we learned that i was struck by it was twofold. mark zuckerberg very much ingratiated himself with a group of republican donors he would not have been comfortable with eight years ago to ask to host a party, to ask to have a seat at that elite maga table. and the flip side is trump personally invited him and those other tech executives to be up on stage with him. and as steve bannon put it to me, and steve bannon knows trump quite well. it's also worth noting he is not a fan of the technology. but he said, look, it's like walking into teddy roosevelt's game lodge and looking at all the stuffed heads on display. it was a power move for trump. it was not necessarily a flex for all of these tech guys who have way more money than him, but are desperate for his approval. >> donald trump comes into

office this time around with a team who's been studying what they want to do and how to get it done. it's just a much different ball game in 2025 than it was in 2017. all right. ashley parker, ryan nobles, vaughn hillyard, thank you very much. and our thanks to courtney kube and also to julie sorkin for that. that great reporting. still ahead, january 6th. convicts are walking out of prison today. ashley and i were just talking about it. let me describe to you who exactly has been released and what they are saying about their release. plus, the lawsuits are being filed. what executive orders are likely to face injunctions? what power does donald trump actually have to overturn? something like a constitutional amendment, and what the world now thinks of donald trump's first day in office as the president took a rare and, frankly, quite surprising swipe at vladimir putin. we're back in 90s.

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officers in a capitol tunnel. prosecutors argued he fought like that for more than an hour. also, peter schwartz, who was serving 14 years, he snatched an officer's pepper spray and repeatedly used it on them. here he is reaching through other rioters to do it. he also joined the larger mob that crushed officer daniel hodges in a capitol doorway. you see it right there. there's also daniel rodriguez, who got 12.5 years for assaulting police officers, including officer michael fanone, who suffered a heart attack after rodriguez tased him, something rodriguez bragged about to his friends, saying, quote, tagged, tased, tased. excuse me, the f out of the blue. joining us now, nbc news justice reporter ryan riley, also msnbc contributor paola ramos, who is in miami. all right. ryan, so there were these really violent ones. there were also the ones that were convicted on the most serious crimes, seditious conspiracy.

it's everybody. >> yeah. it's everybody. i mean, it's just a full pardon for everyone. i mean, you know, so there are those ones specifically that they've carved out where they're going to, you know, where they've given them a commutation rather than a full pardon. but if you committed a crime at the capitol on january 6th, you got to get out of jail. free card here. and a lot of people are going to be able to cash that in before they were even arrested. because, you know, the online sleuths have identified more than 200 people who assaulted law enforcement officers that day who were never arrested. and i think that's one of the things that, you know, really doesn't necessarily break through more broadly, because, remember, there were 3000 people, more than 3000 people who entered the building that day. and when they originally started these prosecutions, they thought there were only 800 and that. so that sort of explains how this all played out, because, you know, they went in thinking, okay, we can handle 800 cases. lo and behold, they were off by a factor of several. i won't try to do math on the air, but they undercut it by they thought it was about a fourth of what it actually was, and they weren't going to be

able to reach all of those cases. and, you know, over the years, because of the i think some of these misdemeanor cases have been sort of weaponized against the government where, you know, they sort of make victims out of people who stormed the capitol. those cases have undercut and undermined this investigation. and we've seen a lot of work by republicans on capitol hill to sort of undermine the clear facts and evidence about what what happened that day, because, you know, you're seeing some of it on your screen there. it's not it's not that hard to figure out, you know, was it antifa? no, it was not. it was donald trump supporters again and again and again who will sit in court. and i've watched them walk up there before, and some of them still think that the 2020 election was stolen. and we'll tell you that to that day. and, you know, support what they did because they think that the 2020 election was stolen. and now we have a pardons. you know, we have the president of united states effectively saying this is all going away. this is this has disappeared. and i think that there was this battle behind the scenes to figure out where these pardons would, would fall. i think we're going to see a lot of that is going to continue to trickle out over the coming days and months and

perhaps, you know, years. but right now, what's happened is it's the maximum option, which is, pardon, every single person who attacked the capitol, no matter how violent, no matter how captured, and no matter how over the top beyond a reasonable doubt their guilt was. >> yeah, there was no they didn't go through this and decide, you know, whether some maybe were not a good look. they decided just to do everybody. paola, you spent yesterday at a january 6th pardon watch party. people were anticipating this. did you did you get from this. what did you get from them. did do they believe that what donald trump did essentially was a message to them, that it was okay, that what they did on january 6th was fine because it was done in his name? >> absolutely. >> i think they feel emboldened. and let me tell you a little bit about what i saw yesterday. as you mentioned, i was at a january 6th pardon watch party, the specifically one that was organized here in miami by someone called gabriel garcia. now, gabriel garcia is friends with enrique tarrio and he's a

veteran. gabriel garcia is a proud boy. he's someone that was sentenced to one year in prison due to his actions on january 6th. on january 6th, the gabriel even live streamed himself storming the capitol. he livestreamed himself interfering with capitol officers entering the rotunda and calling for nancy pelosi. i think the point is, katie, to your question. four years after that, and gabriel is someone that shows absolutely no remorse at all. there's no regret. and i think what you're about to hear will tell you exactly what he means by that. take a listen. do you have any regrets at all? >> no regrets at all. >> no regrets. >> zero. the last time over again. >> are you still wearing your gps ankle. >> bracelet so you could pull. >> it up? no. it's okay. what do you. what do you plan on doing with that? >> cutting it off and taking it a shooting range. >> to a shooting range. i would love. >> to shoot it up. with everything. >> i got. >> what message do you think that would send to people that are actively scared? that people like you are being liberated and

pardoned? >> well, i'm sorry, there's. >> no more safe spaces. i'm not here. >> to my safe space. >> i'm not here to. >> provoke violence. >> so a couple of hours after that exact interview, katie, at around 7:30 p.m. last night, gabriel garcia did exactly that. he cut off his court ordered gps ankle monitor. and shortly after that, there you see, you can see him doing that. and as you can see, he after that he showed it to the cameras. it was sort of his symbolism not to celebrate the moment. and shortly after he did exactly that, when gabriel got in his car, he got inside of his car, he drove for hours north, and he then went to another federal prison to see the release of his other proud boy member, friends and other j6 defendants that were released yesterday. so i think that speaks to the moment that we're in. one more note. we know that tomorrow, enrique tarrio is scheduled to be here in miami. and so the question is, if we are about to see another reemergence of the proud boys with a lot more force.

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but the aclu, along with 15 attorneys general, are saying the president doesn't have the authority to overturn a constitutional amendment, so they're suing to block it. joining us now, nbc news homeland security correspondent julia ainsley and msnbc legal correspondent lisa rubin. i want to talk about this, but there's also a little bit of breaking news that i do want to get to. julian, this is right up your alley. dhs is officially rescinding the restrictions that kept ice agents from conducting arrests in sensitive locations such as schools, churches, and daycare centers. what does that mean? >> that's right. so this is something we reported on shortly after the election. deedee martinez and i were hearing that this was something in the works by the transition. they want to completely take the handcuffs off. ice agents, as they say, meaning allowed them to make arrests anywhere. previously, under the obama first trump

administration and biden administrations, ice had, by and large, left alone anyone who might be at a church or any house of worship of any faith, a hospital trying to get health care or any kind of educational facility, a daycare center, a school, a college, for example. that was not a place where ice was going to carry out arrest unless there was some reason, a law enforcement reason. there was someone who they thought would put the public in danger if they didn't arrest them right then. it also pertained to large gatherings, funerals, weddings, but also protests. if you think about people trying to come out for a large rally for a pathway to citizenship. by and large, that wouldn't be a place where ice would go and make arrests. but now that's rescinded a very early decision by this administration. also coming from border czar tom homan, who really wants ice to be able to make arrests anywhere they see fit. this also shows katie that even though this administration talks about how they want to go after the really bad guys, when they remove a policy like this that already had an exception to

allow them to go in. if there was someone who was a danger to public safety when they remove something like this, it shows that they have no problem with those collateral arrests. people who have committed no other crime besides living in this country without documentation from being arrested, that there's really no protections for those people when it comes to the scale with which they want to bring deportations. >> to make you a little bit more on that, are they looking for people that have just come in here recently, or are they looking for anybody who's come in here in the last, you know, 40, 50 years? are they going to say to somebody who's been living here and working and paying taxes and has a life here and a family here, maybe some of whom are illegal? there's mixed status. they've done nothing wrong. are they going to say to that person, you got to go? >> well, the recency doesn't seem to be anything that would keep someone from being deported or not deported. the longer they've been here doesn't seem to matter. now. their priorities are people who are have known criminal histories and also people who have deportation

orders already done. that way. they don't have to wait for them to go before an immigration judge. they see those people as the low hanging fruit. but because you see orders like this rescinding previous memos that protected certain people, certain people gathering, people going to school, it shows that. yeah. katie. to answer your question, they they don't have a problem if someone who's been living here for 50 years with no criminal record paying their taxes gets deported, they would say, well, that person was living here illegally, and they would use that to boost these numbers, to get closer and closer to the millions that trump's been talking about. >> all right. let's talk about trying to overturn a constitutional amendment. birthright citizenship. does donald trump have the authority to just write an executive order, executive order overturning it? no. >> but he'll say that he does. and it's all contingent on what certain words in the 14th amendment mean. 14th amendment confers birthright citizenship on somebody who is born here and is also. and these are the key words subject to the jurisdiction of the united states. and it's the

interpretation of that phrase that donald trump and his allies are using to promulgate yesterday's executive order. katie, you noted that 15 states have sued over this executive order. that number is now up to 22. i believe there are 18 states plus san francisco, that were a party to the same lawsuit that you were talking about earlier, plus a new suit by four other states. this shows us sort of a level of organization and coordination among state attorneys general that really we didn't see in the very earliest days of trump, 1.0. clearly, states were anticipating that in the complaints that we've seen, they're complaining. not only do we need to act on behalf of our residents, but we have to act on our own behalf, too. we have a financial interest here. if the federal government isn't, for example, going to give us medicaid dollars for people we assumed were citizens, who's going to have to make that up in terms of health care? who's going to provide nutrition services, special education services, foster care, us, these states? and on that basis, they're asking the court to permanently enjoin the executive order and prevent it from taking

effect. >> can you help explain that that clause in the 14th amendment and why donald trump is hanging this argument on it? >> well, i will tell you, there's an 1898 supreme court decision that says flatly his interpretation is wrong, that somebody who was born to aliens, but born in the united states is in fact a citizen of the united states. but the trump argument is that somebody who is born to people who are citizens of other countries is not themselves subject to the jurisdiction of the us. that's not historically what the definition has been. so, for example, native americans don't have birthright citizenship because they are subject to tribal laws. they get their citizenship in another way. also, children of diplomats who are born in the united states because they are subject to sovereign law. they are also not included within birthright citizenship, but with limited exceptions. people born within the united states, historically and pursuant to supreme court precedent, have been interpreted to be citizens for time immemorial. >> this is going to go to the

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living illegally within the united states. sources familiar tell bloomberg that 18,000 people have already been identified as part of a proactive step to avoid a trade war down the line, and india is just one of many countries adjusting to the next four years of america. first in france, president emmanuel macron said in a speech that trump's return means europe and nato need to, quote, wake up and get less dependent on washington for defense. in canada. the calgary sun, the newspaper there, called trump's inauguration a taxing situation in spain. another newspaper, ora, published a front page editorial in english under the title god save the world, and in the uk, the daily star warned readers to strap in for the orange man baby, so help us god. the star is a tabloid, by the way, in the uk. joining us now the new york times diplomatic correspondent michael crowley. i just want to make sure that everyone knows it's not like the times of london is

saying that on their front page. michael, it's good to have you. >> thanks. >> the world was certainly preparing for this. i know joe biden went on a tour saying america is back. but there was anxiety and hesitation among world leaders that his return was temporary and that we could go back to donald trump or something like it here. that has now happened. so what is the reaction? what's the most notable reaction you're seeing? >> katie, thanks for having me. and you're right. >> in fact, i think that there. >> was more. >> of a. >> conviction overseas. >> that trump was going. >> to. >> return as president than. >> there was. >> in much of the united. >> states, certainly in much of washington. i think world leaders for years. >> have been. >> preparing for this. possibility to them. >> in many. >> cases likelihood, and have been formulating strategies and. >> contingency plans for this. so i think it's not a. shock to most world leaders. and. >> you know, part of what's notable. >> to me is.

>> the degree. >> to which, you know, you do see some commentary, particularly. >> editorial commentary. >> not from governments. saying this is a crisis. trump is here. everybody panic. >> and emmanuel. >> macron is obviously reacting. >> to the reality. >> of trump's rhetoric. in which he insists that europe must do more to carry its. >> own load. >> in its collective defense, trump believes that america is relied on too much by the europeans. but in general, i think what you're seeing around the. world is a strategy of. really flattering trump and adapting to the idea that you're, you know, as as much of the case within the united states among parts of what used to be called the resistance, that is not as vigorous among business and even some members of congress, business leaders and members of congress who say, we have to work with this guy. you're seeing foreign leaders basically flatter trump and say that they're prepared to do business with him, because i think they realize that fighting

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trying to say was that he wants this war to end, and it doesn't make sense for russia to keep fighting against ukraine, because it's putting such a such an incredible drain on russia's economy. you know, tens of thousands of russians are being killed. so i think he's kind of priming the table for the argument that there needs to be a peace deal between ukraine and russia. and, of course, that end goal that trump has set, many analysts argue, is inherently favorable to russia because russia currently occupies about 20% of ukraine. if there's a peace deal any time soon, russia is probably going to keep most or all of that land. >> all right. michael crowley, really good to have you. thank you very much. and coming up next, donald trump didn't follow through on his tariffs yesterday, at least not yet. how that has impacted the markets today. also, what it could mean for our neighbors to the north my name's dan and i live here in san antonio, texas. for our neighbors to the north and the south.

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of 25% on mexico and canada because they're allowing vast numbers of people. canada is a very bad abuser. also vast numbers of people to come in and fentanyl to come in. >> when do you think you would enact those? >> i think february 1st. >> i mean, giving notice of. >> that. >> i think i think we'll do it february 1st. >> 25% on both. >> sir. >> sir on each. >> joining us now nbc news senior business correspondent christine romans february 1st. christine. >> i mean, it could happen. i was talking to a member of the trade team earlier today who said, basically, it's not it's not if, it's when and how much, and they have a framework in place to look at the causes of america's trade deficits and figure out how they're going to impose them, pointing out also that they imposed them in the first administration, and the biden administration kept them even added some on strategic imports from from china. and team trump, i think, is for sure going to be put on putting on tariffs later on. >> are they going to be watching the markets though, because the markets reacted really

positively today? >> you know, it's interesting because you know that donald trump loves to take credit for record highs and take credit for economic numbers. but he has been steadfast that the cornerstone of his economic policy is going to be tariffs. he thinks america is ripped off and are treated like suckers around the rest of the world. and for him, tariffs are high. >> is it your sense that it's going to be 25%? >> i don't know, that's what i don't know. he's also a negotiator you know. and part of the thing is fentanyl. they want to stop fentanyl. so that's part of it. part of it is they want to bring manufacturing back to the united states. i don't know what mix of that there is. there is this external revenue service instead of the irs, the irs that they want to do that would congress would have to make that. and already, you know, the commerce department and, and border patrol, you know, customs and border protection already collect that revenue. so i don't know if that makes government smaller, to make government bigger, to try to make government smaller. so we'll see what actually happens in the weeks ahead. >> word play. >> christine romans. >> thank you very much. and one more thing before we go. today, donald trump attended a prayer service at the national

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