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>> good morning. 11 a.m. eastern, 8 a.m. pacific. i'm jose diaz-balart. we begin this hour with new developments in how the trump administration is starting to carry out the president's promise for the largest deportation operation in u.s. history. nbc news has learned a memo from the acting deputy attorney general ordering the justice department to investigate state and local officials who resist, obstruct, or otherwise impede lawful immigration related commands and requests for potential prosecution. just this morning, trump border czar tom homan provided an update on where things stand with the administration's immigration operations. >> we are concentrating on the worst first, the public safety threats and national security threats. and just yesterday, in the last 24 hours, isis arrested over 308, 308 serious criminals.

some of them were murderers. some of them were rapists. some of them raped a child. some were sexual assault of a child. so isis is doing their job and they're prioritizing, just as the president said they would. so the isis performing excellent right now out in the field. and they're going to continue every day. >> homan went on to say, if ice agents find someone they're looking for, and that person is with other people who are in the country illegally, those people could be arrested as well. with us now, nbc news homeland security correspondent julia ainsley, washington post national political reporter sabrina rodriguez and former ohio governor john kasich, who is now an msnbc political analyst. julia. tom homan saying that 308 serious criminals were arrested in the last 24 hours. are these the massive raids that have been announced? >> well, jose, just to put that in context, i had my producer pull a given month in the last year. they looked at september of 2024 and look over those

days. the highest day that they arrested was about 242 migrants in a given day. so 308 does seem to be a surge. but is it the shock and awe that the trump administration promised? it doesn't seem to have the details, at least that we were expecting. we were expecting this to target major metropolitan areas. we don't know the when, we don't know the where or the who. we just know these numbers as they're rolling them out. so what it looks like, and we've reported that this was likely is that ice would continue to do their operations. they would surge more resources and more do more operations. and the very early days of the trump administration, and they would talk about it. but it's important to realize those numbers aren't necessarily dramatically higher than what we saw in the previous administration. and it may be very hard for them to reach that goal of millions and millions in a year, simply because they don't have the funding yet. jose. >> on the other hand, juliette, precisely the fact that we don't know when, where and who is what the administration is looking

for to have surprise factor. >> yeah. that's true. i mean, they definitely called off those plans in chicago that we and others reported were going to start on tuesday morning when those plans started to leak. they want the surprise. and of course, every law enforcement operation wants the surprise because they want to be able to arrest people who don't know they're coming. they don't want them to hide. they don't want them to be armed. that is obviously something a lot of law enforcement organizations would do. and then you have this memo that you're talking about from the justice department, where they're saying that it is illegal for anyone to impede an immigration officer, a state and local police officer, and that they are willing to look at potential prosecution if any of those state and local officers get in their way. it's important to remember sanctuary city police officers aren't ever standing in the way of ice barricading the door when they're trying to arrest an immigrant. what they aren't doing is they're not picking up the phone and calling i.c.e. when they have an undocumented immigrant that they've encountered and their operations. so it's going to be interesting to see how this memo gets interpreted and how exactly

these people could be referred for prosecution. and based on what behavior. >> sabrina, i know you've been very focused on this reporting in the last couple of days. what reaction are you hearing from people you're speaking to. >> right now? there's sort of this question of uncertainty, of how far is this going to go, how wide reaching this is going to be from the trump administration. you know, we saw trump on the campaign trail really tout this was the centerpiece of his campaign, talking about how he was going to execute this large deportation effort. but i think for a lot of people, there's still not a full understanding of what that entails, what that looks like for some people, that definition means, oh, no, he's not actually going to deport all the millions of people that he said. he's really going to just focus on criminals. for some, it's all criminals and people that are taking advantage of government assistance, and for others, it is this perception of, oh no, he needs to get rid of everyone who is here undocumented, who crossed the border or came illegally. and so i think in the days to come, really, it's going to see how

this sinks in with the american public when they start to see really that imagery come out. but i think depending on who you voted for and where you stand politically right now is sort of people are in their corners and sort of set in their beliefs of what this is going to look like. >> yeah, i mean, governor, it does indeed seem that there are political reactions to it, depending on the prism from which they're seeing it. and a recent new york times poll found that 55% of americans support deporting all immigrants in the u.s. illegally. what do you how do you see this, governor? >> well. >> i think sabrina said it right. it depends what the images are. jose. look, i don't know any american or very few americans who would say that if somebody is here illegally and they have a criminal record, they ought to be picked up and deported. i think there's great unanimity around that. but if all of a sudden we have, you know, raids in churches or in schools, which is are now saying they could possibly do those

kind of images, in my opinion, jose, they will not stand up. you know, it's about a pendulum. it is about the border. you know, frankly, i think the democrats were too lax on that. and the republicans are saying we're going to strengthen the border and we're going to deal with this problem, particularly with people who are criminals. and the pendulum is going to come back. but i also want to tell you that yesterday i was i was very affected by the sermon, by the i think she was a bishop in the church where trump attended and tried to remind him that, you know, these these people who were here, they you look into their face, you see the face of god, and we need to be merciful and we need to be just in the way we go about it. and so i think that if that pendulum gets swung from too lax to way too firm and people being yanked out of certain places, i think the public will not like that. and i think that will be cause for activism. i think this

could be an era of activism where people say from the bottom up, no, that is not fair. that is not just that's not my country. but as sabrina said, we don't know yet. it's too early. and so i don't want to prejudge it. we just have to see how this all rolls out. in my opinion. jose. >> yeah, that was bishop buddy at the national cathedral. julie, i know you were able to get a firsthand look at one of the final deportation flights of the biden administration. what did you learn? >> yeah, that's right. i think it was really important to be able to see that. i mean, i saw a plane that was being filled with over 100 people going back to honduras, including some little children. now, we don't know if these people crossed recently or if they had been there for a long time. it probably ran the gamut. but it's important to realize the biden administration didn't talk about this as much, but they did do deportations. and often, as we mentioned, those numbers could be over 200 arrests in a given day. here's what the field office director, miguel vergara, told me about these people who are boarding this plane here. this was last friday in

harlingen, texas. >> what we're seeing. >> here. >> this is the final journey. every individual is getting in this plane or that. we boarded the plane, had their day before an immigration judge. the case was heard. they had their due process. every possible remedy that could have been applied, or it was exhausted. and it was determined by the immigration judge that they don't have a right to remain in the united states. >> and the context there, jose, is so important because he's talking about how long it takes to get to the process, where they can arrest and deport them. trump can do a lot through these executive orders, but these people are still given the right to due process. and so just because someone is arrested doesn't necessarily mean that they've exhausted all of their remedies and will automatically be deported. they could be detained for a long time. it's an expensive process, and we have over 8 million migrants who are not detained in this country. so that is a it's a big challenge if they want to take this on and to try to have some kind of results on it. >> and julie, i mean, there are also more than 1 million people

in the united states with deportation orders that have not left the country. that's also a different group because their case has been adjudicated. >> that's right, that's right. jose and i often hear that being described as the low hanging fruit. those are the people they want to go after, because they can remove them from the country more quickly. i've sat in those immigration courtrooms before. a judge will say, you are ordered deported, but it doesn't look like they just get arrested and put on the plane after that. most of the time they walk out and if they're found to be in the united states in violation of that order, of course that is a felony. and they are then arrested and deported right away. but it just gets into why this is so complicated and why so many people scratch their heads about why people are living in this country illegally. the system is broken. there are more people than they can handle. trump wants to tackle this. we'll see if the tactics he takes on resonate with the american people. as the governor was saying. >> yeah. i mean, sabrina, you spoke with a latino family in arizona who support donald

trump. what is their story and what do they say? >> well, we just published. >> this first part of a series that's looking at this family, the ramirez family in phoenix, arizona. and this family, you know, all four of them. they have two college aged sons, the two parents, both immigrants from mexico, that all voted for donald trump. and it was interesting to talk to them because you sort of hear them talking through what we're talking through right now, this uncertainty of what exactly it is that it's going to look like. they feel that, yes, the immigration has gotten out of hand, that the amount of people coming, you know, across the border is too much that, you know, people need to be following the law. but at the same time, there's sort of this uncertainty. okay. well, i think he's going to focus on criminals. oh, well, actually, there's a really good chance that he may get some of the good people as well. and that is unfortunate. and, and sort of them grappling with the reality of that, that it is very hard for trump to if you believe that trump is only going to focus on criminals, that is also very

difficult to just squarely do. and i think for this family, as a family of immigrants, as a very proudly mexican family, we're seeing them grapple with their evolving feelings on immigration, their evolving feelings on being american. and i think for a lot of latinos, that is something that people are going to be feeling and thinking about in the months to come. as trump, you know, continues to refer to immigrants the way he does and actually gets to now execute on the plans. he campaigned on. >> you know, john, just in the next hour, the house is going to meet to take up the lincoln riley act, which passed the senate yesterday. the bill, named after a woman who was killed by an undocumented migrant. it would allow ice to arrest and detain undocumented migrants charged with crimes. what does it mean for this to be possibly the first bill that president trump will be signing? >> well, i mean, it's part of his big agenda. and, you know, he said, i don't think this is right, that immigration was a bigger issue. the border was a bigger issue than inflation. i mean, both of them were big issues. so it's one of his top

things. what i will say in listening here is, jose, you know, there are a lot of people that waited in line and they got in here properly who are people who came in and went through the system. if you don't go through the system and you go to a judge and the judge says, no, you shouldn't be here because you came in illegally, that's a legitimate question. and you have a million people who were viewed that way. well, i mean, what's fair is fair. at the same time, jose, this bill that's going to pass or whatever, we need a complete immigration reform bill. none of this can be fixed just by a president putting something out around the border or or with ice or whatever. we need a comprehensive immigration reform bill because there are a number of business people in this country that want to see an effective guest worker program. they want to see there are a number of business people look at the fight inside the trump about the hb1 visas, you know, so we need to sort this out. and it would be a great opportunity for a president to bring both parties together to do that. i

just hope the water is not so poisoned that it can't be done, because you and i both have followed this for a long time. that's the way to fix it. yeah. >> john, there has to be a political will and there have to be political circumstances and conditions that make that political will possible. and it's just as right now, you know, what we're seeing. i don't i mean, you know, i, i just don't know if. >> they i know, i. >> know at this time is something that, you know, anybody would be willing to take up. they should, because as you say, as julia says, as sabrina says, the immigration system is broken in this country. and just how do you fix it? i mean, the fact that there hasn't been comprehensive immigration reform in this country since 1986, when president reagan was in the white house. i mean, think about that. >> i was. >> there, but anyway. >> i was there. >> yeah, i know jose.

>> wouldn't it be great? wouldn't it be great? jose? honestly, i know look, we're not going to lose hope you i've known you a long time. we're not losing hope. but wouldn't it be great if politicians would just drop all this garbage that they cling to and say, let's do something for the good of the country? i'm not giving up on that yet. there are good people out there and that's what needs to happen, including with the dreamers, right? let's just do the right thing. >> and that's a key thing. you know, if my grandmother had wheels, she'd be a bicycle is a term that some people use when. but anyway julie ainsley sabrina rodriguez thank you, governor, if you would stay with us, we have a little bit more to talk about in just a couple of minutes, because still ahead, we're going to be speaking with colorado's attorney general, who's joined the coalition of democratic states suing the trump administration over its effort to revoke birthright citizenship. plus, an nbc news exclusive new allegations about defense secretary nominee pete hegseth behavior toward his second wife, and outrage on both sides of the aisle after

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6th attack on the us capitol are no longer behind bars after president trump issued roughly 1500 pardons for them. in addition to commuting 14 sentences out of the roughly 1600 cases filed by the federal government, over a third of them included allegations of resisting, impeding, or assaulting law enforcement. my colleague peter alexander asked the president about some of those cases yesterday. >> among those who pardoned. >> d.o.j. rodriguez, he drove a stun gun into the neck of a dc police officer who was abducted by the mob that day. he later confessed on video to the fbi and pleaded guilty for his crimes. why does he deserve a pardon? >> well, i don't know. was it a pardon? because we're looking at commutes and we're looking at pardons. okay, well, we'll take a look at everything, but i can say this. murderers today are not even charged. so these people have already served a long period of time. and i made a decision to give a pardon. >> joining us now, nbc's gary grumbach and former governor john kasich is back with us. so,

gary, you're outside the d.c. jail where some of those convicted in the riots are being released. what are you hearing? >> hey there. jose. yeah. over the past 48 hours, we've seen a slow trickle of january 6th defendants being released from the d.c. jail behind me. we just got new numbers in from the d.c. jail. we now know that there are 13 folks who are charged with crimes related to their actions on january 6th. still inside this d.c. jail, nine have now been released. and just minutes ago, we saw one by the name of ryan wilson released from d.c. jail. he talked to us just very briefly off camera, and he was saying how he is thankful to president trump. he's excited to get back to his regular life. he was somebody who was charged with six felonies, including one of them being assault with a dangerous weapon for throwing a pipe at police on the capitol grounds. he is now a free man going off to enjoy his life. we also talked yesterday to rachel, one woman named rachel, who came out of the dc jail, and she was saying how she actually has some

regrets about her actions on that day. take a listen. >> he's put my family back together again. without him, i wouldn't be out right now. >> january 6th. >> if you had to do it over again, what would you have changed? >> you know what? when the police became violent and everything started getting out of control, i wish we would all just sat down. >> now, there are several reasons why there are still 13 folks who are charged with crimes on january 6th inside the dc jail, even though they were pardoned by president trump almost 48 hours ago now. first is because they may have state charges associated with the crimes they committed. those, of course, cannot be pardoned by a president. only federal crimes can. and the second is some of these are ongoing cases. they're not just sentences that are being dealt with. so the ongoing cases have to be adjudicated in a court, and the dismissal has to be done in a court and through the legal process. so that is all happening as we speak now. >> jose and john, a new piece

from the wall street journal editorial board slams these pardons, writing, quote, this is a rotten message from a president about a political violence done on his behalf. what happened that day is a stain on mr. trump's legacy. by setting free the cop beaters, the president adds another. how do you think republicans explain this? >> well, a number of them are not explaining it. as you know, mitch mcconnell, the former leader and probably always will be, one of the great leaders, has condemned this. and there are thom tillis from north carolina who could be in a tough reelection, did so did the senator from from louisiana. it's not going down well with a lot of them. and what's interesting, jose, is the wall street journal. you know, it has been a paper that's in many respects bent over backwards to excuse some of the things that they see out of the president, not always, but a number of times. and they're very strong

about this. and, you know, as somebody said to me, this a simple point. what are we supposed to tell our kids? you assault a police officer and somehow there's not a penalty that goes with it? i think, you know, universally, i don't know of anybody. few people who have said if you assault a police officer, you ought to walk. i don't if you do that kind of a crime, you got to you got to have consequences. so, you know, you're finding republicans. some republicans just twist themselves like, you know, in jiu jitsu to try to figure out how to explain things. but, you know, at the end of the day, the truth will prevail. and people, when questioned closely about their feelings here, they'll reveal themselves. and it's just a terrible decision. and look, this was something that vance and bondi, the prospective attorney general, said it should be a case by case basis. and of course, nobody that attacks a police officer should get away.

and that was one of the complaints about some of the riots that we saw in the country where, you know, republicans were condemning the assaults and attack on police officers. and yet here, for some reason, there are some that go, well, okay, justified. but they they're not happy with themselves. and i don't think they're happy with this decision. and if things like this continue, you will begin to see the public respond and react and move away from this. >> gary grumbach and governor john kasich, i thank you both very much. and now to a controversy facing president trump's nominee to lead the pentagon. an nbc news exclusive report reveals senators received an affidavit from pete hegseth, former sister in law, in which she says his second wife told her that hegseth behavior made her fear for her safety. the former sister in law submitted an affidavit in response to a request from democratic senator jack reed for a statement about hegseth fitness to lead the defense department through his lawyer. hegseth has denied that

he was abusive toward his ex-wife. in a statement to nbc news, his ex-wife says there was no physical abuse during their marriage and in their 2021 divorce proceedings, both parties agreed that neither claims to be a victim of domestic abuse. joining us now, nbc's julie sirkin on capitol hill. julie, good morning. what else are we learning from this affidavit? >> yeah. hey good morning jose. well, it's important to point out that the affidavit makes a lot of allegations that aren't related, quite frankly, to physical abuse. and so the fact that samantha hicks has responded to us when we asked her what is not accurate in these allegations, and she said she was never a victim of physical abuse, is notable, i will tell you that really, this process now comes down to republicans because her nomination has been reported favorably out of the armed services committee, which jack reed, of course, is a part of. on monday, on a party line vote. senator tim kaine, though, had some interesting questions for hegseth. i thought during that confirmation hearing last

tuesday where he specifically pressed him on allegations of abuse, whether it would be disqualifying for somebody to hold a position of secretary of defense having abused his partners, his ex-wives, or even that sexual assault case, which, of course, he has denied out of that woman in monterey, california in 2017. take a listen here to what kaine had to say yesterday about these new allegations in the affidavit and how it relates to that testimony. watch. >> i've got two sets of definitive answers on three different claims. have you ever engaged in abusive behavior against any of your wives? no. would that be disqualifying for a secretary of defense? he would not answer. that's an easy question. would spousal abuse be disqualifying for somebody being considered secretary of defense? the answer is, of course it would be. but he was unwilling to give me a clear answer. >> and i'll tell you that republicans on the hill, even those close to trump, paid attention to that line of questioning last tuesday. at this point, though, this

nomination is going forward on the senate floor for a full vote. that can happen by the end of this week. and he would be confirmed unless four senate republicans vote with all democrats to block his nomination. jose. >> julie sirkin on capitol hill. thank you. still ahead, details on president trump's overnight memo that puts federal di workers on paid leave by 5 p.m. today before being laid off. plus, almost ten inches of snow in new orleans shatters a record set back in 1963. an update on extreme weather affecting millions. it snowed in northern florida. i'm telling you, it's i'm barbara and i'm from floridst. joseph, michigan.t's like a lot of snow. i'm a retired school librarian. i'm also a library board trustee, a mother of two, and a grandmother of two. about five years ago, i was working full time, i had an awful lot of things to take care of. i needed all the help i could get.

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rouge, louisiana. jorge, there's a lot of snow. yeah, that's right jose. it is. >> as you mentioned. >> a once in a lifetime event. the snowfall has. stopped here in baton rouge. but what we're dealing with now is exactly what officials warned about those icy conditions. this roadway here, you might have a better time getting around. not in a car, but on ice skates. i mean, take a listen if you can. it's crunchy. it is slippery. it is still very dangerous to get out. many roadways here are still closed, as crews are working around the clock to try and plow as many of these streets and make them safe and drivable. right now, we're not seeing many vehicles. you're about to see one right now, so hopefully they have a good time. you're going to see it still covered in snow and some ice. again, a lot of folks not used to driving in these types of conditions. fortunately, the power grid has held we have not seen any reports of any rampant power outages, but the airports are closed. i can tell you right now some of the flights that we have been looking at all canceled for

today. so again, the cleanup still very much underway here. and this is still far from over. treacherous travel, still a real concern here. and again, those bitter cold temperatures gripping the south looking to stick around a little while longer. but a lot of folks are already over this. just got to tell you, it's a weird sight, jose seeing palm trees covered in snow. it's just weird. it's just weird. >> it really is. and george, as a miami boy in miami, boy, don't do that little dance thing because you could slip in a second. don't do that. don't show us. the ice is there by the move because i'm worried, you know, we're just not equipped for that. george. thanks. it's good to. >> see you. >> yes, thanks. and now to new developments. this time out of the trump administration. just hours from now. all federal employees who work in diversity, equity and inclusion roles have been ordered by the white house to go on paid leave. the trump administration is giving the heads of all departments and agencies until 5 p.m. today to tell their employees, and that

they have, until the 31st of this month, to submit a written plan to dismiss the workers. joining us now, nbc news white house correspondent vaughn hillyard. vaughn, good morning. what's all of this about? >> this came in a form of a memo to agency heads across departments late yesterday afternoon, telling them that they needed to identify who was working in die capacities inside of their agencies and notify them by 5 p.m. eastern close of business today, that they would be put on paid administrative leave and then ultimately come up with a plan by the end of this month, next week to ultimately dismiss them from their roles. now, there's a lot of unanswered questions to this. number one, a source from the past administration, who i was talking to, suggested to me that most of the, quote, die capacity jobs in the administration are political appointee jobs, and therefore it would be a matter of the trump administration not

filling those roles. and it's not like there's a bunch of people with die titles that are working across agencies, that are civil workers who are in the position to be fired. yet in this same memo to the agency heads, the trump administration urged them to identify individuals who are working in this space, even if their title didn't necessarily reflect that. so there's a question of whether they target an hr type, individuals who are working in those spaces and that they allege, engaged in unfair hiring practices, for instance. but this is part of a broader effort of executive orders by the trump administration to remove diversity, equity and inclusion efforts at the federal government level. we it is it is an outstanding question, though, exactly how many civil workforce workers will actually be impacted by this decision come the end of the month? jose. >> vaughn hillyard at the white house, thank you very much. up

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>> 40 past the hour. happening now. the legal challenges to president trump's executive order seeking to end birthright citizenship are growing. attorneys general in 22 states and washington, d.c, filed lawsuits yesterday seeking to block the executive order, which says birthright citizenship is limited to children who have at least one parent who is a u.s. citizen or permanent resident. it has long been accepted that the 14th amendment to the constitution guarantees a right of birthright citizenship to anyone born in the us. with us now is colorado attorney general phil weiser, who is one of the attorneys general involved in the lawsuits. attorney general, thank you very much for your time. what is the premise of your lawsuit? >> the premise is the. constitution is clear. >> if you're born in this country. you are a citizen. period. the idea that a president could seek an executive order to override the constitution. it's wrong. it's harmful to people who are here and have this status as

citizens. and we're going to stop it in court. >> and so do you think that the president's executive order is, in fact, a flagrant violation of the constitution? i mean, is the president is the executive able to change the constitution through an eo? >> jose, those are the words i've used. this is a flagrant violation. it is flatly unconstitutional. and i believe that when a judge looks at this, it's not going to be a close case. the 14th amendment was adopted to override the dred scott decision, a decision that lives in infamy because it said that someone born here because they're black is not a citizen. that was overridden. everyone who was born here is a citizen. that's the policy of our constitution, and it's part of who we are as americans, that we are out of many, we're one. e pluribus unum is our motto. that's what we're fighting for in this case. >> and so meanwhile, i know the colorado is preparing. and i'm

just wondering from your perspective, what are those preparations for what the president has called the largest deportation force in american history? >> my message to coloradans and to americans is that we live under the rule of law, not the rule of whim. a president can't do whatever he or she wants. we have to treat immigrants fairly, and there are processes that need to be followed before someone can and would be deported. someone applying for amnesty, someone who is a dreamer has certain status, and the idea of mass indiscriminate roundups is not how we do things in america. and if it happens, it's very likely citizens are going to get deported too. and the amount of harm that's going to happen, the amount of negativity and demonization right now, it's not who we are. i am here as an american because of the spirit of welcoming my mom and my grandparents survived the holocaust. they were liberated by u.s. soldiers. they were welcomed to the united states of america by a spirit

that we want to support you and your future, and the idea that we're having all this rhetoric out there that's scaring people and threatening these indiscriminate roundups, it's wrong. and we're going to make sure we follow what lawyers call due process of law, that everyone is treated fairly, that the law is followed, and that if people are in a process, they get to see it through and can't be indiscriminately deported. >> i'm just wondering, attorney general, you know, where do you draw the line as far as legality, the rule of law, respecting the rule of law, and yet carrying out the rule of law? you know, if people are here and they have committed a crime, though, more than 1 million people who already have been ordered to leave the country after their processes were adjudicated, where do you draw the line there? >> jose, you've done a great job drawing the line, and this is what's so sad about the moment we're in. there are lots of people you put the figure at a

million who've gone through the process. they have been given due process of law. they are eligible to be deported. that is the sensible place to start by deporting people who have gone through the legal process. if you have committed a crime and you've been judged as a criminal, you have forfeited any rights to any more process and you can be deported. those are cases where deportation is lawful. but if you're a dreamer and you're being threatened with immediate deportation, or if you're applying for asylum or have another legal process underway, we don't short circuit that process. we allow it to run its course to make sure you're treated fairly. >> and the millions of people that live in a mixed immigration status household, you know, those are people that also have to be worried about what may or may not happen down the line. colorado attorney general phil weiser, i thank you very much for being with us. i really appreciate your time. >> thank you. >> up next, our reporter speaks

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return to what was once their home, only to find wide scale devastation. this morning, president trump's special envoy to the middle east, steve witkoff, says he'll be traveling to israel soon and addressed trump, saying he was not confident the cease fire could hold. well, i don't disagree with the president. i think that the implementation of it is probably more difficult than the execution of the of the deal, the execution. that was a big step. that was the condition precedent. we had to get it done. and we did, thank god. and now we've got to implement it. and joining us now from jerusalem is nbc's daniele hamamdjian. daniele, you were just in the west bank meeting with a woman who was just released by israel as part of the hostage deal. what did you learn from her? >> good evening. >> from jerusalem, jose. >> well. >> after. >> 13 months. >> and. >> 20 days. >> she had a lot to say.

>> her name is janine amaral. she's 23 years old, and she was an agricultural engineering student. her dream is to open a plant shop. it was an emotional reunion on sunday night. you can see the pictures there as they were released from prison and dropped off by bus. the families were waiting for hours. the last time the family saw her was on december 3rd, 2023. the idf barged in in the middle of the night with guns pointing at her and took her away. israel says she is a terrorist. you put that question to her and she shrugs her shoulders and she says she has absolutely no idea why. we spoke to her lawyer, who says he was never given any evidence. she was never charged, never tried. and that is called administrative detention. and that was the case for so many of the detainees on sunday. in fact, thousands are held in administrative detention by the israeli authorities. they are held indefinitely in administrative detention. she was released and she was told,

don't worry, you'll be back. she was told not to celebrate, which she did anyway. and we asked her, you know, why decide to speak to the international press? and she said it was her duty. her family, who you can see here, told us that they believe that israel is randomly arresting people to break their spirits. we spoke to her family, her father, right there, and asked him what he thought of donald trump's involvement in the cease fire talks. take a listen. many say he helped end the war in gaza. do you fear that he's going to let netanyahu do whatever he wants in the west bank? >> i personally can't. >> understand this man, trump. >> i hope that the word, the. >> word, the people. >> the nations. >> that all stay with us to get our rights.

>> and there's been a heightened security presence all over the west bank. more checkpoints. one family member who you saw there, it should have taken two hours to get to the family home today. it took him ten hours. instead, the un is saying that israel is restricting the free movement of palestinians in the west bank. >> jose daniele hamamdjian in jerusalem, i thank you very much. the case in front of the supreme court today is something that could make it harder or easier to hold police accountable for deadly use of force. we're going to talk about that next. you're watching jose diaz balart reports on msnbc. >> want the fastest working. glp one for half the price? ro now offers fda approved weight loss injections cheaper with results. you can see faster, lose 15% of your weight with the formula from eli lilly. see if you qualify at koco-tv. >> well, you're in the big

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moments before the actual shooting takes place. or can you widen the aperture? can you look back in time and see all the attendant facts and circumstances? in this case, it all transpired within the matter of just seconds when barnes was shot back in 2019. if you look at the video, you see a cop getting actually on top of the car. and so today you heard the justices probing. was that reasonable? can the courts look at that? meantime, i sat down with his his mom, janice hughes, before oral arguments today. jose. and this is what she told me. >> i want ultimately. >> at the. >> end of the. >> day. >> for the city of houston, harris. >> county. >> america. >> to know that. >> my son. >> was a victim and never a suspect, ever. he was a victim. he was murdered by the police. never a suspect of nothing. that's what i want everyone to know. >> i can see the pain from that

mom there, jose. but this case could set a standard nationwide. not just in the barnes case, but if the supreme court actually adopts the standard that she wants, jose. where you can actually look back larger in time to rather just not that just moment of threat. jose, it could be a real windfall for plaintiffs all around the country. jose. >> laura jarrett, thank you so very much. appreciate it. and that wraps up the hour for me. i'm jose diaz-balart. you can always reach me on social media at jd balart. and you can watch clips from our show at youtube at msnbc.com slash. jd, thank you for the privilege of your time. andrea mitchell picks up with more news right now. >> right now on andrea mitchell reports. president trump pressed by nbc news chief. foreign. chief white house. correspondent over pardoning roughly 1500 january 6th offenders, including those who committed violence. >> the vice president, jd vance. he said, if this is a week ago, he said, if you committed violence on