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>> the ex-leader. >> of the proud. >> boys with. >> a warning. >> to the people who put him and other january 6th rioters in prison. >> the latest. >> on those going. >> free, those still waiting. >> and reaction from the son of a j6 defendant who helped put his dad behind. >> bars. >> and fears for his safety now that his father has been released. also is die d.o.j. in the era of trump, the president moves to shut down diversity programs nationwide. one of the flurry of moves with the potential to reframe american life. but to what end? and the deep south in a deep freeze. multiple people dead after the first ever blizzard warning was posted in parts of the gulf coast. the surreal scenes as cities like new orleans and pensacola get more snow than they've seen in a century. so much to get to on this wednesday. but we start with the january 6th investigation and the hundreds of criminal cases connected to it effectively erased all traces of it have

been deleted from the fbi website, as the federal bureau of prisons confirms that hundreds of the former convicts who had been imprisoned for crimes committed that day have already been set free. but several have made it clear they have no intention of going quietly. take, for example, the so-called qanon shaman jacob chansley, tweeting that he's going to use his new freedom to buy some guns, although he framed it profanely, or the proud boys, who marched in washington this week with a flag saying they've done nothing wrong, or their one time leader, enrique tarrio, who said this just hours after being released. >> now it's. >> our turn. >> now it's. >> our turn. >> i'm happy that the president. >> is focusing not. >> on retribution. >> and. focusing on success. >> but i. >> will tell. >> you that i'm. >> not going. >> to play. >> by those rules. >> the people. >> who did this. >> they need to feel the heat. >> they need to feel the heat. all of this tracks with concerns

from experts on domestic terrorism, who worry that trump's pardons will breathe new life into far right violent extremism, and they warn of the potential that it could backfire on those who support trump's blanket pardon. as politico points out, quote, that means that we may see and read stories in the years to come involving january 6th defendants pardoned by trump, who went on to commit more and potentially more serious crimes. i want to bring in nbc's ryan riley, who's been following these pardons from washington. he's also the author of sedition hunters how january 6th broke the justice system. nbc's peter alexander is following all of this from the white house. and ryan nobles is on capitol hill. okay, ryan riley, what more are we hearing from these now? former january 6th defendants? are people like terrio the exception or the rule? >> yeah. i mean, they're celebrating actually just got off the phone not a little while ago with gina bisignano, who's an individual who actually was inside the tunnel on january 6th, and her essential strategy. i mean, i've been talking to her

for years, and she's made very clear to me that her strategy was delay, delay, delay, delay, delay, delay, delay in the hope, hopes that donald trump would come back in office and pardon her. and lo and behold, that's exactly what happened. at every step of the way, she really tried to kick back the case. she she. pleaded guilty. then she had second thoughts and pulled it back. and ultimately her delay, delay, delay strategy paid off, just like it did for donald trump during the 2024 campaign. because he was able to delay these cases, the judicial system wasn't able to get these cases over the line before donald trump was back in power and could wipe these off the map. so essentially, you're seeing a lot of celebration. and i do think that that point that was made in that political piece is something that i've been talking a lot to the online sleuths about, because, remember, a lot of these january 6th defendants, you know, while a lot of them were, in fact, you know, the sort of story that you hear, the narrative that we hear often from members of congress, that there were a chunk of these people who had were otherwise law abiding citizens. but there's a whole lot of them who were not law abiding citizens before january 6th, who beat

their wives, who you know, one example, ryan samsel, he took his, his, his wife and put or he took his girlfriend rather stuffed her face down into to a pivot at the bottom into water, shoved pizza in her face. there's some really awful charges that have been brought separately, including one individual who actually was just charged very recently. that's an individual who actually was arrested after he he had he had child sex charges. he's one of the individuals who the question is, what happens to him now because he's already been sentenced for those child pornography charges that he had separately. what's going to happen now? there's another individual who was the fourth person to breach the us capitol named ed kelly. ed kelly came in through that broken window. he bashed in the fire escape there, and then he went on to be get arrested, be released, and then plotted to murder the fbi special agents who investigated him for january 6th charges. now, that separate case, which was brought by a federal grand jury in, in in outside of dc and

then he was convicted in that case. so that conviction still stands because donald trump's pardon didn't impact that that that that case specifically. but that's really the exception rather than the rule. all of these cases are are going away, will be erased. and the question is what are these individuals who are released going to do next. >> yeah. and peter, have you heard any concerns from the white house about a potential price to pay down the line? i should mention there are multiple polls out showing a majority of americans didn't want these pardons for violent felons. a yougov poll showed 75% of people opposed to pardoning those convicted of using a deadly weapon. for example. >> well. >> chris, let's be clear. president trump is, in effect, the white house right now. so clearly from the president, we are not hearing any sort of sense that, you know, maybe i shouldn't have done this. we had an exchange with him in the white house just yesterday, where i pressed him on a series of these issues. we'll play that for you in just a moment. but the bottom line is, there are already some whispers that some of the january 6th rioters who

have now been released may even be making some appearances, invited to the capitol or to the white house. there's no confirmation of that yet, but it just gives you a sense of where the thinking is throughout this community, given donald trump's sort of defiance of the law and his willingness to pardon all these individuals, including more than 200 who were responsible, i think the number is 174 who were used using dangerous or deadly weapons and assaulting officers. so that's the bottom line. here's part of my exchange with president trump on this very issue just yesterday. listen. >> you would. >> agree that it's never acceptable to assault. >> a police officer. sure. >> so then if i can among those you pardoned dj rodriguez. he drove a stun gun into the neck of a dc police officer who was abducted by the mob that day. he later confessed on video to the fbi and pleaded guilty for his crimes. why does he deserve a pardon? >> well, i don't know. was it a pardon? because we're looking at commutes and we're looking at pardons. okay, well, we'll take a look at everything, but i can say this. murderers today are not even charged. you have

murderers that aren't charged all over. >> so that requires a bunch of fact checks. the first is, of course, there are not murderers all over who are not charged. if they are accused of murder, the police investigate them, and if they find them, they would charge them separately. he said that we're going to consider that going forward, which would indicate that they hadn't considered the case of d.o.j. rodriguez and others. rodriguez, having served, i think 18 months, were in fact, his sentence was 12.5 years. donald trump in the past had said they'd review them case by case. there was some question whether he would be pardoning some of those individuals who attacked police officers. he's the president who in the past has said he backed the blue, and specifically his own vice president, jd vance, just a week and a half ago is on camera saying, of course, if you committed violence on january 6th, you should not be pardoned. he used the word, obviously, you should not be pardoned. i asked the president about that, why j.d. vance was wrong, and his explanation was, i think, in effect, that he believes that these people have been treated

in an outrageous manner and that they deserve to be released. chris. >> all right. and great questioning there in the oval office. ryan nobles, the response from capitol hill has been interesting. right? so you have people who think the president is absolutely right. they stand by what he did. you have some folks who are seeming to try to avoid answering the question because everybody's getting asked the question, and then you have a relative few republicans who are saying they did not want violent offenders released. tell us more. >> yeah, i think by and large, chris, it's just a question that most capitol hill republicans do not want to answer, and they're finding ways around it. they're trying to deflect and compare them to the pardons that president biden issued as he was leaving office, as a way to say that the entire pardon process has been watered down and needs to be reformed. but when you press them on the specifics about whether or not these violent offenders should have been pardoned, they try and find ways to make excuses for it and talk more broadly about what

donald trump did. take a listen to a smattering of what some of these members of congress told us yesterday. >> the president's made his decision. i don't second guess those. and yes, you know, it's kind of my ethos, my worldview. we believe in redemption. >> how are you feeling about some of the trump's executive actions in particular? >> specifically? >> i'm pardoned. love him. what about the pardon? >> yeah, i think they were absolutely justified. >> are you comfortable. >> with these pardons for january 6th? >> look. >> as i said. >> sorry, sorry. >> as i said before, we're looking forward to the next four years, not the last four. >> to me. >> i just can't agree. i'm about to file two bills that will increase the penalties up to. >> and including the death penalty for the murder. >> of a police. officer and. >> increasing the penalties and creating federal crimes for assaulting a police officer. that should give you everything you need to know about my position. >> what they refuse to do is ever issue any direct criticism to donald trump himself about making this decision. some have

couched their disagreement just over specifically the pardons for the violent offenders. but there's been one senator in particular, lisa murkowski, who came out and was very clear about how she feels about this particular issue. she posted the following on x. she said the capitol police officers are the backbone of congress. every day. they protect and serve the halls of democracy. i strongly denounce the blanket pardons given to the violent offenders who assaulted these brave men and women in uniform. of course, you know, chris, i think one of the things that we find ourselves in when we ask these members of congress about this is that they can be unhappy about it all they want, but the deed has already been done, and there is no turning back. that's why you see some republicans trying to deflect the questioning and say they just want to talk about the future. chris. >> all right. ryan. nobles, ryan. riley, peter alexander, guys, thank you so much. now, among those freed guy reffitt, he's a militia member from texas who was the first of the january 6th defendants to be convicted. take a look. you see him in the

black jacket, wearing body armor and a helmet in a standoff with officers on the steps of the capitol. reffitt was carrying a loaded handgun, and he told people he wanted to physically drag nancy pelosi from the building. when he went home, he threatened his own children not to turn him in. but his son jackson did anyway. and now he faces the reality that his father is free. jackson reffitt joins me now. jackson, thank you so much for being here. i know this is not easy for you, and i know you previously said that trump pardoning your dad terrified you. so i wonder what the last day and a half has been like for you. >> well, it's. >> gotten worse. i mean. >> he's physically out. >> now. >> and that is. >> a reality. >> that i haven't really faced yet. i thought i had time. >> to work. >> with it and understand it and work. >> with him. >> at some. >> point, but i. >> don't have that. >> time anymore. and the only thing i can do right now is sit

around. after a couple months of prepping and being safe and distancing myself and moving and buy a handgun and a rifle, i mean, that's the only thing i can do besides talk about it right now and, you know, try to surround myself with good, healthy people. and i guess just spectate what happens now? i have nothing else to do other than just to sit here and be paranoid and imagine what could happen. >> what worries you the most? because the idea that you've already moved, that you felt the need to buy a handgun, tells us a lot about how afraid you are. >> yeah, it's on my waist 24 over seven. now i have to make these calls early. i bought the handgun november 25th, right before midnight. and i just can't, i. i can't imagine being safe right now. it goes far beyond my dad. there are people

out there that i get death threats by the minute now. i mean, people feel so validated right now with president trump stepping into office and saying and doing all this and defending all these horrible actions. i mean, i saw a photo of my father today sitting next to the leader of the oath keepers and the final hearing, his final testimony. i remember him saying that he was not going to be involved in this anymore. and as ignorant as i was then, to actually believe that, i'm so heartbroken right now to see imagery like that and to see him continue down this path. and i think that goes for everyone pardoned this these people are willing to do this. even though trump never knew they existed, and now they feel his presence and trump has reached his hand out and helped these people out. and the validation can be deadly for others. >> do you know anything about where your dad is? his? has he ever, throughout this tried to

contact you? >> we've tried to contact each other. it's been very hard. he bounces around and it's been hard for me to find the, i guess, the courage to reach out. i've seen him get further radicalized in prison throughout these years, and there had been a point whenever i figured that he had gotten better, and that is not the case, he has continued to reach out to these far right militias, and he's continued to participate and downplay and justify his actions and not face accountability. i want the best for my dad. i, i advocated for mental health help in prison, and he denied it. from what i heard, he absolutely denied it. and that was heartbreaking to hear. all i, all he needed was some therapy and some people to talk to that aren't just going to validate

him, because that's what happened on january 6th. that's what led him up those stairs, was validation. and he's going to get more of that than ever. >> when you were growing up, jackson, was he a dad much like any other dad? because i think a lot of people have a question about how do you get to this place? how do you get to the place where you're willing to go to the capital and you're willing to go to prison? >> i think he was an amazing father growing up. he gave me so many opportunities and he raised me to be the man i am right now. i the only thing i can imagine that led him up those stairs was, you know, being scared. i mean, we live in a rough capitalist country that atomizes people. and whenever you find that that community and that calling to save your family, that you think is to save your family, and you're just being

used by some guy who never knew you existed until he, you know, saw you get in charge with nearly eight years. i understand why my dad did it. he he wanted to protect his family, but that led him astray. and it was so hard to see him take that decision. i informed authorities prior, but i, you know, he took every action afterwards that led him to where he is now, and he's going to keep taking those decisions. he he's he's not stopped. and that's what makes me so upset and scared. >> well, jackson, i think it's incredibly brave of you to come on and speak your truth and take the time with us. and we wish you safety and we wish you peace. and perhaps sometime in the near future, we can check in and see how you're doing. thanks for being with us. we do

appreciate it and we wish you all the luck in the world. >> thank you so much. i appreciate the dialog. thank you. >> well, we are also following breaking news that's just coming to us out of tennessee, where two students have been shot at a high school outside of nashville. nbc's tom winter is following this for us. what more do we know? tom. >> sure, chris. so approximately. >> an hour and six. >> minutes. >> ago. >> 1211 eastern time, according to nashville. >> police department, they received. >> calls for shots fired. >> at antioch. >> high. >> school, which. is near. >> nashville and obviously within the nashville. >> police department's purview. >> they are. >> investigating this now. >> after reports. >> of two students shot. >> in a cafeteria. >> their conditions. >> were not immediately available to us, or at least to the. >> spokesperson that are our southeast. >> bureau talked to. separately. >> i talked to. >> a senior law enforcement official who confirmed that. >> information as well. and said. >> that the shooter apparently suffered a. >> self-inflicted gunshot wound. so after. >> shooting, these. >> two students. fired a weapon upon that. person upon

themselves, rather. and it's not yet clear what the condition of the shooter is, but at least at this point, chris, they believe that the threat has ended because of that self-inflicted gunshot wound. they don't know why. of course, it's only an hour into the investigation as to why this happened, and law enforcement officials are still just arriving on the scene and beginning their investigation. and so we don't know if there are any other injuries. you know, sometimes we hear about those after the fact. the students understandably flee whenever they hear a shooting is part of the run, hide, fight mantra that is now become so familiar to so many american students. when one of these incidents takes place, you're looking at a live picture, presumably outside of that school again in nashville, tennessee, at the antioch high school, two students shot. unclear if there are any other injuries, and we're being told that unlikely, according to multiple senior law enforcement officials, that there are any other shooting victims and that the individual who is believed to be responsible for the shooting has has fired a gun or

a round at themselves. again, the conditions of all three people, as well as their identities not yet known. still, very early on into this, it's less than an hour and a half after this incident took place. the one thing that we are hearing, at least cautiously, cautiously optimistic. and i say that only because every time we hear about a school shooting, we think of the worst. we think about the tremendous amount of death we've seen over the years in these instances that there at least is no indication at this point that it goes beyond these three individuals and these two victims here. and so that is in a day where it is terrible news, at least some sort of a sense that this is somewhat contained. chris. >> tom winter, i know you'll get back to us as more information is known. thank you. in 90s donald trump cracking down on dea employees with a deadline that's now just hours away.

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undocumented immigrants from churches, schools and hospitals. so are these moves meant to make america safer and end wasteful spending, or are they an indication of what the administration believes america should look like and who should thrive? i want to bring in nbc news senior white house correspondent kelly o'donnell. telemundo 40 juliette botello is near the border for us in hidalgo, texas, and former democratic congresswoman and msnbc political analyst donna edwards joins us as well. so, kelly, what more do we actually know at this hour about this crackdown on workers in die rolls? well. >> chris, we're going through what is now a transition of. >> a. different type. >> on the campaign trail. many of these concepts were talked about by candidate trump. and now as president trump, his administration is taking action. and there are two broad categories of employees that. >> are relevant. >> in this conversation. there are political appointees who are subject to. the administration being. able to hire and fire.

and then there are career employees who, through administration to administration, hold positions across. >> government that are not. >> supposed to be subjected to the. >> whims of. >> party and control, and that is intended to give some stability and some expertise that carries through. so part of what would happen here is that there are protections. >> for those. >> career employees. so going on paid leave at 5:00 fits into that. for those that are described as having roles that relate to dei programs. and that is, of course, something that is at times in the eye of the beholder. at times it's expressly written. >> into roles. >> and the trump administration is trying to understand what those positions are. and in many ways, not only with this particular idea, but also as they are looking at appointments. across the executive office of the president. to look for people who are aligned with the overall goals of president trump and to

try to, where necessary, put those kinds of positions related to dye out of commission, finding positions elsewhere for some of these employees. and part of what may happen is there may be some attrition. people who are federal workers may want to work in another position, may be at home for some period of time getting paid, and then some may choose to leave the employment of the federal government and the trump administration, it would appear, is kind of putting that pressure point on these employees as it is trying to remake the nature of the federal workforce to reflect the priorities and the interests of president trump. >> kelly, thank you for that. okay, congressman, you know, we've had congresswoman, we had already seen some major corporations, meta, mcdonald's, walmart, following what trump said he was going to do, that they got rid of dei programs. so is diversity programing now dead? >> well. >> i mean. >> the reality is that. whether the president or these ceos like

it or not, america is a diverse country and workforce. and so getting rid of these specific programs does not necessarily eliminate diversity and inclusion from our, our workplaces. and so i think the president mistakenly believes that by eliminating these programs, he automatically reshapes the look and feel of the federal workforce. i don't think that this will be true in any case, but it sends a horrible message to federal employees who act in many roles that are not partizan. that transfer from one administration to the next, that their jobs are on the chopping block. >> but as a matter of politics, do you think, donna, that the democrats misjudged this? you know, this is a campaign promise? again, donald trump delivered on his first day back in office. the wall street journal pointed out a piece from george packer, who said that the

2024 election completely exploded what he called the illusion of dei. and he's not a conservative, quote, nearly half of latinos and a quarter of black men voted for trump, he wrote in new york city. he did better in queens, in the bronx, which have majority nonwhite populations than in manhattan, with its plurality of wealthy white people. do you think most americans are with donald trump on this? >> well, i think that these americans may have voted for donald trump for a number of reasons that largely had to do with the economy. and i'm not sure that that is specifically true of dei. i think it is a surely it has been a reinforced talking point, and the president is trying to make good on what he calls a campaign promise. but it's not really clear to me that this slice of the electorate voted for donald trump for those reasons. and i think that the writing will be on the wall. i mean, if these workers are

impacted both in the private sector and the government sector in a negative way, that could come back to bite donald trump in this administration. >> so, juliet, we're seeing a bunch of new polls and they are interesting. one out today by ap norc, shows that half of americans are on board with increasing security at the southern border, but in large numbers. americans are not okay with going after people in schools or their places of worship, 64% strongly opposing it. you see it there in schools, 57% opposing it in church. how is this all materializing at the southern border? and i wonder what you're hearing from folks there. >> chris, i can tell you that undocumented migrants here at the border are feeling scared. they are nervous. they know they are at more risk now being deported, especially after tuesday, it was announced that l agents are no longer restricted to detain undocumented people in these so-called sensitive areas, such

as schools like you mentioned, chris, or churches or even hospitals. and as a result of that, the undocumented families that i have recently spoken to have told me that they have started preparing with emergency planning. they are saving important numbers. they are getting ready to call someone just in case they are detained, and someone that can go pick up their children in school, and also they are contacting their local consulates, as well as calling immigration attorneys to know what to say, what not to say, and what not to say to sign in case they are detained. now across the border here in mexico, only a few steps behind me is the city of reynosa, mexico. we visited the city just a couple of days ago. we spoke to a few asylum seekers who were set to appear before a federal judge here in a u.s. court of law. however, that now will not happen. their appointment has been canceled. as we know, the cbp one up has stopped working. some of those families have decided they want to wait here

at the border and see if the new trump administration will give them a new opportunity. others say they are being forced to go back to their home countries because they are afraid of remaining here at the border due to the organized criminal activity. now, with the remain in mexico policy being reinstated. chris, a lot of these families will be waiting for a court appointment here at the border, and the mexican government is already bracing themselves getting ready for what could be a large influx of migrants. and because of that, the governor of tamaulipas has said he is ready to open up over 15,000 of shelters for the mexican migrants that are being deported. and as i mentioned, chris, families on both sides of the border are feeling nervous. they are scared as they do not know what their future looks like. now back to you, chris. >> juliette portillo, thank you. and former congressman, congresswoman donna edwards, appreciate you. always. good to have you on the show as well. still ahead, a deadly winter hitting the south and

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snow and some of that ice starting to melt. however, you can see some of this stuff is still very hard to move around. but again, the danger is once all this melts and that sun goes down, whatever's left behind is just going to refreeze, creating some of that treacherous travel. and so that's why officials are still urging folks to stay inside and stay off the roadways as long as they can. that's the dangerous side of it. people are still out and about having fun in this snow and this rare snow, this once in a lifetime snow. students at lsu check this out. they sure know how to have a good time. we can expect college students to. they were out there having snowball fights. they were out there sledding. and we've seen so many great images of people enjoying again, this rare event down here in the south. we actually had some fun ourselves. we took the governor's advice. we actually had several bowls of gumbo, but the only thing we could do because everything else is closed. so we made sure to keep our bellies warm to survive some of these frigid temperatures. but again, roadways here completely closed in many areas. there's still a lot of travel headaches and airports. also a

big nightmare around here because a lot of flights, including some that we had booked, also canceled today. so there is no getting out and about. best hunker down and wait for these temperatures to warm up chris. >> and have some gumbo. making the best of a bad situation. thank you for that. so not far down the road in new orleans, actually in the suburb of metairie, bill, my sister in law sent me a picture. and they know how to, you know, dress up a snowman. they're a little flora and fauna hair. she's got the mardi gras beads going on. wow. but then they didn't have to go to work today so they could have a little fun with it. but what's next for folks there? >> a slow melt. >> you know, typically, if you're going to get something. >> extreme and unusual. >> in a place like this. >> you. >> know, maybe. >> in a day it would. >> be all gone. >> but as you. >> noticed, it's still on the ground. >> it's still pretty chilly, and it will probably be by tomorrow. >> evening that we. >> finally start to see temperatures warm enough. so the. >> storm is gone. it's exiting the. >> outer. >> banks currently, and.

>> some of these totals were obviously historic. >> i mean. >> pensacola, florida, with over 7.5in mobile, alabama. this has never. >> happened before. >> new orleans, this is close to your record. some areas downtown were closer. >> to ten. >> inches houston, texas. this was your top four all time. and lafayette. >> louisiana. >> that's your biggest at 10.5in. so we still have what we call cold advisories. >> and cold warnings up. >> for areas here, especially from lake. >> charles to new orleans. >> temperatures are well below normal because you have, you know, ice. >> and snow on. >> the ground. >> even though it's sunny, it's keeping things. >> very cold. >> so houston, we're melting. >> a little faster. >> at 39. but new orleans. >> is still 31, panama city still 33, savannah, 33 wilmington. these are all areas well with snow and ice. >> on the ground. >> and as we. >> go through tomorrow morning, whatever. >> melts today is going to get really hard and crunchy. 25 tonight. >> 24in new orleans. >> houston 31. so we are going to get that. >> refreeze. >> and it won't be until tomorrow. >> afternoon that we. >> finally start to kick. things up. >> that snow will be long. >> gone in houston with 53. a lot of it. >> will be melted. new orleans and.

>> panama city. and things will. really improve over. >> the weekend. new orleans. >> gets up to 65 on sunday, so we can kind. >> of go back to normal. and all of that. >> snow in the south will be melted by the time. >> we get to the end of. >> the weekend. >> chris. >> all right, bill karins, we just have to wait it out. thank just have to wait it out. thank you so much. up next, when you host, your bathroom can feel like a revolving door... keep things fresh with febreze small spaces. it's an outlet-free air freshener that fights odors for 45 days. so even after every flush... you know your bathroom smells amazing. ♪ lalalalala ♪ when you really need to sleep. you reach for the yoreally good stuff.om smells amazing. zzzquil ultra helps you sleep better and longer when you need it most. its non-habit forming and powered by the makers of nyquil. if you're living with diabetes, i'll tell you the same thing i tell my patients. getting on dexcom g7 is one of the easiest ways to take better control of your diabetes and help protect yourself from the long-term health problems it can cause.

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that's at the top of the list. but i do think this is one of those things that when if you know donald trump, as we all do, when he kind of gets obsessed with something, it keeps coming up and it keeps coming back. and he has talked to his aides about what that would actually look like, both for greenland and for the panama canal. and it's not something that other presidents have never talked about. right. george w bush talked about the panama canal, for example. that's something that has been a part of the conversation, i think, because of the way that donald trump does it, people seem to want to think that it's a joke. it's hard to know what you know, what's going on in donald trump's head. and if he was serious when he said he's not ruling out kind of any military or economic powers to take over these areas and these places. but he is serious about the expansion of the country in some, in some kind of way, because he knows that it is it speaks to his base. >> well, you know, politico has been reporting that greenland's prime minister said he is

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