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>> right now on andrea mitchell reports. >> in a. speech just delivered president trump threatening. >> world economic. >> leaders meeting in davos, switzerland, with tariffs while blaming the world's economic problems on the biden administration. >> if you don't make your product in america, which is your prerogative, then very simply you will have to pay a tariff, differing amounts, but a tariff. >> as the white house ramps up its immigration. >> crackdown. >> sending 1500 active duty troops to the southern border, firing. >> the head of. >> the government's immigration courts. >> canceling the. >> appointments of 30,000. >> immigrants who now have to remain in mexico. >> and blocking. >> the entry for more than 10,000 refugees from. >> around the world. plus. >> president trump defending his. >> decision to. >> pardon violent offenders who attacked police during the january 6th capitol riot and canceling. >> diversity. >> equity and inclusion programs throughout the federal

government. while southern california faces another fire emergency as a new wildfire erupts north of los angeles. good day everyone. i'm andrea mitchell in new york. just four days in office and president trump is playing defense on tariffs. his pardons and his cabinet nominees. the president's proposed tax incentives and. >> tariff threats. >> are dominating. >> his. >> first address to an international audience. speaking moments ago, from the white house to the world economic forum. >> in. >> davos. >> my message to every business in the world is very simple. come make your product in america and we will give you among the lowest taxes of any nation on earth. under the trump administration, there will be no better place on earth to create jobs, build factories, or grow a company than right here in the good old usa. >> last night, mr. trump was again asked to justify pardoning

and commuting the. sentences of january 6th. defendants, including those who violently attacked police officers, this time by fox host and trump ally sean hannity. >> should be allowed to protest a vote. you should be allowed to, you know, the day when the day comes. >> you. >> shouldn't be able. >> to invade. >> the capital. ready? most of the people were absolutely innocent. okay. but forgetting all about that, these people have served horribly a long time. and the other thing is this. some of those people with the police. true, but they were very minor incidents. okay. this was a political hoax. and you know what? those people and i'm not saying in every single case, but there was a lot of patriotism with those people. >> daniel hodges is one of 140 assaulted officers. his head was slammed in a revolving door, his emotions. >> still raw yesterday as he reacted. >> to the pardons, vividly

describing the brutal assault. >> i was beaten. crushed, kicked, punched, surrounded. someone reached underneath my visor, tried to gouge out my eye and all these people were just pardoned by donald trump. he says that they were the real victims. that they were the patriots. >> also. >> today. >> there is. >> a troubling. >> new detail about the latest accusation against defense secretary nominee pete hegseth. as we are awaiting a full senate vote, first actions on that procedural votes on his pending confirmation starting this afternoon. but we begin with nbc news senior white house correspondent garrett haig, usa today washington bureau chief susan page. ashley parker, now a staff writer at the atlantic and former republican congressman from pennsylvania charlie dent. so, garrett, the president has

the ear of the world business and tech leaders. he was questioned by one of his closest supporters and contributors. what was he telling them today? >> well, he was hitting on some of his sort of tried and true economic and foreign policy beliefs, praising the value of tariffs and suggesting they're coming for companies that don't make their products in the u.s. his concern about trade deficits always noted. he talked today about wanting to see nato countries spend up to 5% of their gdp on defense. that would be a major boost, including for the united states, by the way, which spends only about half that, according to defense defense department figures. and he also clearly had his conversation with saudi crown prince mohammed bin salman from yesterday on his mind. he talked about an offer from the saudis to spend some $600 billion in investments in the united states. he said he wants to see that number get up closer to $1 trillion, and said that he's going to be pushing opec to try to lower oil prices, which he sees to unlocking both the

inflation crisis in the united states and perhaps helping to end the war between russia and ukraine. russia, of course, been buoyed for so long by high oil prices, so kind of a wide swath of economic and foreign policy issues, mostly within the sort of normal bounds of what we hear from donald trump throughout the campaign and his young presidency. >> and, susan page, this is the first time that that the president in this new term addressed an international audience since being inaugurated. he spoke with the saudi crown prince. as garrett just mentioned, he threatened vladimir putin with new sanctions if putin doesn't end the ukraine war. this was, i think, the toughest message he has sent to vladimir putin that we've heard. >> yeah. >> interesting. >> because the president. >> has. >> been unable. >> to reach. >> his campaign goal of ending. >> the ukraine. >> war in. >> 24 hours. >> which was his. >> original promise. it's proved to. >> be tougher than that. >> russia has been.

>> putin has been unwilling. >> i think, to engage in a. serious way. >> on this because. >> they. >> are pushing. >> for every advantage they. >> can get on the battlefield before they reach a settlement that we assume will involve. >> territory. >> territorial concessions. >> by ukraine. >> but one thing that. >> strikes me. about the president's speech. >> just ended is. >> how seriously. >> the. >> world is taking donald trump. this is a. >> shift from what we. >> saw early on in his first term when. world leaders weren't quite sure how seriously to take trump. they've seen him in action for four years. they're taking this shock and awe action that he's taken in the first. >> days of his. >> of his term really seriously. >> andrea and. ashley parker, let's talk about what we just saw with daniel hodges. also, former d.c. police officer michael fanone. he was assaulted on january 6th. he says his victims service advocates at the doj just told him, quote, you are no longer a victim. when he asked for information about his case. so the people in charge at

the justice department, that is all changing even before confirmation, of course, of pam bondi and kash patel, who's yet to have his hearing. oath keepers leader stewart rhodes released from prison back in the capitol the same day yesterday. so what's the biggest concern about all of these pardons, the commutations and what it could lead to? they get their weapons back, for one thing. >> well. >> president trump. >> is sending a very clear signal. it's one he signaled. >> on the. campaign trail. but now, of course, he's the president, which is that. he does not believe that january 6th was a big deal. you even hear some republicans, not a ton, but you hear some republicans who are uncomfortable with his decision to pardon some of these more violent offenders. in january 6th. and, you know, there are the people who sort of got caught up in the moment. and then there are people like the leader of the proud boys and the

leader of the oath keepers, who played a major role. and so there is a clear acceptance of this sort of behavior being sent. of course, donald trump himself is so deeply tied up in this. jack smith's indictment of him was of his role on that day, on january 6th, of encouraging his supporters to storm the capitol. so if you're donald trump and you have been repeatedly making the false claim that the election was stolen, you understand why whitewashing this and having a new house committee looking into the january 6th committee fits with that narrative. but that narrative, it's important to say, does not fit with the actual facts of that day, of everyone who was up there on the capitol and everyone, frankly, at home who could watch that violence, that actual violence in the united states capitol unfold on their screens. >> and. >> ashley. >> what do you think about the.

reaction to all of this? was this a step too far? the fact that he had said, well, certainly his own vice president had said a week ago, a week and a half ago, that certainly it made sense. i'm not just paraphrasing here that the violent, you know, rioters would not be pardoned, and then all of them were pardoned. pam bondi had answered questions during confirmation that, of course, they would be taken case by case. then you have 1500. and, you know, in one fell swoop, including several hundred who were violent. clearly. listen to daniel hodges look at what happened to michael fanone. >> in many ways, this is a dynamic that is familiar with president trump. there is i mean, first of all, in public polling, there's a lot of discomfort with pardoning the january 6th rioters and especially those who were violent or were were leaders of,

say, the proud boys or the oath keepers. and again, like many things with trump, there is a lot of and garrett knows this better than anyone. a lot of private discomfort among republicans of pardoning those violent offenders. and you see bits and pieces of that spilling into public view. someone like senator thom tillis was a little critical with his discomfort. but again, a lot of the republicans are doing what they have long done with this leader of their party, which is to largely suppress concerns and alarm and to try to just move forward. >> and, garrett, let's talk about the latest development on hegseth. where does that stand now, as far as you know, from the hill? they're beginning to take some preliminary procedural votes today. >> that's right andrea. senators have had a couple of days now to review this new affidavit from danielle hegseth, the nominee's former sister in law, about his

relationship with his second ex-wife. and senators are very much in discussion about what this will mean. but as you say, we're going to see the first procedural vote today on the hegseth nomination, which i think will tell us a lot about whether the allegations contained within this affidavit or any of the other reporting about pete hegseth has done what ashley was just describing, sort of take the private concerns that many republicans have about donald trump and some of his decisions and push them into a position where they might be public, no votes. we frankly just don't know right now. there has been a great deal of trepidation on the hill among senate republicans, whose votes will be the only one that matters, assuming he's not going to pick up any democratic votes, but whether any senate republicans are ready to come out and say they will vote no. as you see on your screen. another a statement from samantha hague said. pete hegseth ex-wife, who maintains there was no abuse, physical abuse within her marriage. you know, we're going to start to see where this all lands today when these votes begin.

>> it takes four no votes to sink. hegseth nomination. one republican who had initially voiced concerns. we know senator joni ernst now says that this the new affidavit is not going to dissuade her at this point. do you see any way that this confirmation is not going to go through? >> i mean, candidly, andrea, someone would have to come out of the woodwork here, even if you take sort of the most optimistic from a democratic perspective, whip count here and say that maybe a lisa murkowski, a susan collins, would vote no on hegseth, perhaps someone like mitch mcconnell, unbound from his leadership role, would vote no. i'm not sure that's even going to happen. that's still only gets you to three. with j.d. vance breaking the tie, you'd have to have somebody who's been awfully quiet about hegseth up until now decide to be a no vote. and while that's possible, i think it's unlikely. >> charlie, what are what are the ramifications for the republican party here, where you have someone who many republicans believe is not qualified to lead this, to manage all of this. he's got a

lot of personal flaws, has acknowledged his alcoholism in the past, says if he's confirmed he won't be an alcoholic, he won't drink anymore, which is, you know, not a probable situation to just sort of go cold turkey like that. it's all very confusing and challenging, but it doesn't seem to be bothering the republicans who feel, i guess, that they'll be primaried. even those who don't have votes, who don't have elections coming up for six years. >> well, i. >> suspect that many. >> republican senators are very uncomfortable with this vote. >> even those who will be voting. >> for him. and as. >> garrett rightly. >> pointed out, it appears there may be as many as three republican. >> no votes. of course. >> four would be needed. so right now, i think many republican. >> senators who are. >> going to who. >> are. going to vote. >> for this man, realize that there is a risk. that if he fails to perform, if he you know, if the question of

competence is demonstrated as a secretary of defense, i do think that many republican senators will, you know, regret that vote in the event that pete hegseth does not perform. but, look, he hasn't been confirmed yet. he hasn't been done. it hasn't worked in the pentagon. so hard to say. but over time, this vote could come back and bite. some of them, particularly those who are up in in the next midterm and perhaps some after that. but right now, i think there's a lot of discomfort among republicans on this one. and right now it looks like he's going to get it. but who knows. we have to count the votes first. we there's many of them are not talking. but the latest revelation from the ex sister in law, of course, you saw the email from his mother, which she has since withdrawn. she walked that back. so he's got a lot and i suspect many republicans are unhappy too, that, you know, a lot of this stuff wasn't found out in the vetting process. i think the trump transition team, i'm sure, was shocked and surprised by

that settlement. and so this is a this is going to be a tough one for republicans to swallow. >> well, you know, the fbi's explanation for that is that the client is the trump transition so that they didn't turn some things over because it wasn't something that the trump transition wanted them to look into. so it does go back to the trump transition. >> well, they may look no question that at least early on in this transition, the trump team really wasn't properly vetting some of these nominees. and particularly in the case of pete hegseth. and that's what happens when you go about doing things so unconventionally. you get these kinds of surprises that are very unwelcome. so yeah, it does go back to the transition. and i suspect this is not the only nominee where there have been some unwelcome discoveries. >> well, >> there's. >> a there's also a lot of questions about the confirmation process, particularly in the armed services committee, where the republican, the new

republican chair, senator wicker, did not permit a second round of questions, did not accede to very traditional requests from the former chairman, highly regarded west point graduate. you know, jack reed of rhode island, the democrat i mean, it was it was really rammed through in a way. and the democrats have been criticized for the way they didn't coordinate their questioning and the way they interrogated him without getting more deeply into some of the background checks. in any case, garrett hake, we'll see what happens as the friday night deadline and travel plans loom, whether they'll go into the weekend. and senator thune has said that they'll have to if they drag this out throughout the next couple of days. garrett hake, susan page, ashley parker, charlie dent, thanks to all of you. and in just 90s, as the trump administration expands immigration enforcement to more federal agencies, we'll speak with connecticut senator chris murphy. also, more u.s. troops moving to the border. you're

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program now are blocked by the trump white house. more federal agencies are also being given the authority to carry out deportations. trump hard line white house deputy chief of staff stephen miller, speaking about that last night. >> not only is it going to be. >> ice engaging in these raids, but. >> also they're going. >> to have support from their law. >> enforcement partners in fbi, atf, dea and u.s. marshals to save this country from this occupation. >> joining us now is democratic senator chris murphy of connecticut, who has led efforts to pass a bipartisan border bill, which, of course, then candidate donald trump encouraged republicans to kill. your reaction to what you're seeing more u.s. troops being sent to the border, a border crisis declared, even though migration undocumented, migration is at its lowest numbers. changes in immigration laws. what are you expecting? >> well, i think it's really important to understand what republicans motivations are here. their motivation is not to

fix the broken immigration system or even fix the border. their motivation is to increase the amount of chaos because they use the issue of immigration both to turn americans against each other, but also to distract americans from what their real underlying agenda is right now. congressional republicans are not working on an immigration bill. they're working on a giant tax cut for billionaires and corporations. they are constructing a bill that will cut medicare seniors health care to the bone, medicaid, health care for poor kids, to the bone in order to pad the pockets of those billionaires who need no more help. so they use this this issue of immigration to try to distract us from the real agenda, to try to make us fearful of each other. and in the end, all they do is make the system work. as you pointed out, by the end of donald trump's term, there were more people crossing illegally at the border than at the end of joe biden's term. republicans don't fix

problems when it comes to immigration. they just make them. >> so what about the refugees? these include, as i say, those afghans. they have been blocked from entry after being approved. is there any hope for getting them in? these are people who are under immediate threat because of their past connections to us, to our, you know, our military, our state department, other agencies during the war. >> well. >> i don't think there is any hope. i mean, donald trump does not believe in the refugee program. he set in motion a withdrawal from afghanistan that left our allies there high and dry. listen, i don't believe in going to war overseas unless it is absolutely necessary. but it was necessary in afghanistan to destroy al qaeda and destroy the taliban that harbored them. we had partners in afghanistan. and the only way that you ever get partners in a far off land is if those people think that they will be protected when you leave, and you're always going

to leave when you start war overseas. so the next time that we get attacked by a terrorist group and we need to go into that country and take out that terrorist group, we won't find partners because donald trump is abandoning, abandoning our afghan partners as we speak, literally waiting in line to come to the united states. our interpreters, security personnel who guarded us, who helped us in afghanistan, who were being hunted as we speak by the taliban. if those people can't come to the united states, then in the future there will be nobody that will sign up to help us protect our national security interests. in the case that we have to go and fight a terrorist organization somewhere far away in the world. >> let's switch this january 6th issue in the pardons, the federal judges who had been overseeing the january 6th cases in dc ripped into the president's pardon of the rioters, judge beryl howell saying, quote, no process of national reconciliation can begin when sore losers whose preferred candidate loses an election are glorified for

disrupting a constitutionally mandated proceeding in congress and doing so with impunity. i presume that you agree with judge howell about this. that's probably not a message that is going to be as resonant as the fact that, with his megaphone, the president of the united states is calling them hostages and not prisoners and calling them heroes. >> i mean, let's let's really talk about who he let out of prison this week, who walked out of prison. the guy walked out of prison this week. that pepper sprayed multiple officers to the point where one had a heart attack. he let out of jail this week. people who were beating police officers over the head with poles. he let out of jail. someone who said when he arrived in washington that day there will be blood. welcome to the revolution. these weren't tourists. these weren't people that just got accidentally

pushed into the capitol. these were people who came to washington with the explicit purpose of beating the hell out of police officers and killing democratic members of congress. and so what happened this week is that political violence just got legitimized in this country. and you're going to see it again and again and again, specifically directed towards democrats, because donald trump has said if you beat up a police officer to further my political agenda, if you terrorize democrats, i will let you off the hook. we have never, ever in the 240 year history of this country seen anything like this. our country is fundamentally different today than it was before these pardons are issued. i'm glad these judges are speaking up, but i hope that every single one of my colleagues, democrats and republicans, stands up and explains what has happened here, that our lives have been put in jeopardy, our democracy has been put in jeopardy by what donald trump did with 1500 pardons, including pardons for the most vicious, the most violent, the most out of control. one of the guys he let out of prison this

week walked out of prison on monday, literally had to be pulled off of police officers by other rioters. he was so vicious and enraged that day. that guy got let out of jail this week, and that's inexcusable. >> and let me ask you about some of these confirmations, because the hegseth nomination new information is coming out. clearly, the fbi did not dig very deeply or deeply enough. whatever caused that to happen, there wasn't a second round of questioning and armed services yet. it looks like a final vote is going to be scheduled for the next couple of days. >> but the. >> well, and add to that, hegseth has refused to meet with any democrats on the committee. i've never seen that before. where a nominee refuses to sit down and have conversations with the people who are charged with vetting his nomination. the constitution charges us with advice and consent, and because they know that hegseth is so

fundamentally unqualified, not just because he has this history of sexual violence and public drunkenness and financial mismanagement, but also because he's never led an organization this size, and because he has often defended most vocally, soldiers who have engaged in some pretty horrific war crimes that he's now telegraphing won't be a problem in this new department of defense. pretty amazing that hegseth won't meet with any democrats. it shows you what they are hiding. they are. it tells you that they know that he can't answer basic questions about his history and about his experience. >> senator chris murphy, thank you for all of this. we really appreciate it. >> thank you. >> and a quick programing note. msnbc on sunday, february 2nd at nine eastern, the msnbc film king of the apocalypse the inside story on the rise of oath keepers leader stewart rhodes. he's the guy you saw back in the

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wildfires north of los angeles, forcing more than 31,000 people to evacuate their homes. thousands more are under evacuation warnings. the hughes fire broke out early wednesday morning, burning 10,000 acres so far, and it's only 14% contained. joining us now is nbc news correspondent dana griffin. this is just a reprise. yet another fire. dana, what's the latest? the efforts to contain it and the weather forecast. >> yeah. well, andrea, i want to just show you behind me. this is the area where the hughes fire has been burning since yesterday morning. it was. it's a definitely a different picture from what we saw yesterday, where we saw that orange, black ominous cloud. there is still some smoke in the area, but just within the last 15 to 30 minutes, this smoke has really been kind of picked up and carried this way. that's because

we are now experiencing 35 mile per hour wind gusts and you can definitely feel it. this is the concern because while they have gotten the forward progression of the hughes fire under control, there is the potential for new fires to pop up or for this one to actually grow because of that. and right now, we can see a little bit of the incident command center here. this is the area where we've seen several crews from different departments staging ready to pre-deploy, or to respond to some of those new fires that may pop up as we are under that red flag warning through tomorrow morning. and you talk about you ask, you know, people have been prepared for this one. i think a lot of people still on edge from those two deadly wildfires two weeks ago. so people were evacuated. they got out of their homes because la is, you know, under a lot of trauma right now. and fire officials have been commending people for leaving when they've been asked to do so. andrea. >> and we just really have to feel for the people out there. thank you so much, dana griffin.

and with a stroke of the pen, president trump signed an executive order erasing a touchstone of the civil rights era. he canceled a landmark executive order banning discrimination in the federal workplace. it was signed by president lyndon johnson back in 1965. for the past 60 years, it ensured equal opportunity in federal hiring by banning discrimination on the basis of race, color, religion, or national origin. yesterday, federal employees across various agencies and departments also received emails warning them they could face repercussions if they did not report their colleagues who continue to work on related diversity, equity and inclusion efforts. joining me now is patrice willoughby, the chief of policy and legislative affairs for the naacp. patrice, thank you very much. welcome. i know that marco rubio, one of his first actions as secretary of state, was to cancel dei activities in the state department because it is government wide. that was a touchstone of former secretary

of state tony blinken. so it's everywhere. and people working in or working on this issue. as of 5:00 the other night were told to be on paid leave. and that's a bit ominous because they don't know what that really means. is that the beginning of a civil service action to try to have them, you know, removed. what do you know? what is the naacp able to do? >> andrea, thank. >> you so much. >> for inviting me. >> to speak today. >> this is. >> a period of extreme chaos that federal workers are experiencing. but more importantly, the executive order signed by the president indicates a radical shift in our american values, which have recognized that discrimination in federal employment, hiring, and in the provision of services is unacceptable. so we don't.

>> know exactly. >> what the heads of agencies have been told. but the executive order, by not. giving specific instructions and just putting people on paid leave. casts a lot of chaos into the work. of a very trained and effective workforce, which is going to have a lot of detrimental effects on the american people. >> it seems to me that at first, it sounds like a lot of what we saw four years ago, five years ago, starting in florida, then spreading elsewhere throughout the maga movement. now it goes, it seems to be going a lot deeper by canceling an lbj order, which really transformed federal hiring practices not just among federal workers, but also contractors. >> well, yes. absolutely. because. dei programs don't

guarantee outcomes, but they do provide. >> a. >> way for underrepresented groups to have opportunity. the executive order from the 60s was issued in recognition that the effects of racism, whether they're intended or unintended, have a negative effect on allowing opportunity to everyone in the country. and so by overturning that executive order, it is really sending a tacit message that discrimination is fine, where we know that the needs of the american people require the best minds from everywhere. the executive order incorrectly frames dei as putting people who are unqualified at the top of the line, and that is the rhetoric that has been used over 60 years to attack these programs. this didn't just

start. it is a 60 year plan to erode first in the federal government teaching about racism and sexism, and then also now overturning efforts to find the most qualified people, even among underrepresented groups. >> patrice willoughby, this is just the beginning of a whole new chapter. we'll be we'll be obviously following this closely. thank you. and coming up next, the fight over the future of birthright citizenship, moving to a federal courtroom. you're watching andrea mitchell reports. this is andrea mitchell reports. this is mwhen you really need to sleep. you reach for the really good stuff. zzzquil ultra helps you sleep better and longer when you need it most. its non-habit forming and powered by the makers of nyquil. revolution. >> in pain relief. absorbing junior pro. the strongest

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and veronica cardenas, former assistant chief counsel at ice and founder of the human migration. so, julia, first of all, what are you hearing? tell us what you expect at the hearing in seattle. >> well. >> look, this is the first legal challenge. you have 22 states as well as the aclu and a number of pregnant women who are being represented. and they are all challenging this idea that trump can basically change the constitution through an executive order. that's what he did on monday night when he said that he wanted to end birthright citizenship. now, the way that the trump administration will argue this is, they will zero in on the words subject to the jurisdiction thereof. i keep writing this out so i don't forget those those words. it's important because the 14th amendment guarantees citizenship to anyone born in the united states of a u.s. citizen, or subject to the jurisdiction thereof. the united states. that exception, those who they do not consider to be subject to the

jurisdiction, are children of diplomats who are born here, but by and large, anyone born here to anyone, even if they're unlawfully here, is a u.s, u.s. citizen according to the 14th amendment. the way trump wants to change that is by saying anyone who's born not only to a mother who's unlawfully here, but one who is legally here but temporarily cannot be a u.s. citizen unless the father is a u.s. citizen or is here permanently and legally, such as being on a green card. so that's a large group of people. that could mean companies have a hard time hiring people on temporary visas because their children will be born almost stateless. another thing we have to point out is that trump has said time and time again, that the u.s. is the only country that honors birthright citizenship. and that's not true. as we know, our neighbors to the north and south and some countries in south america do honor birthright citizenship. >> andrea and priscilla at the border. talk to us about the troops that are heading down there. these are uniformed troops, which is not the first time that that's happened, but it is coming under the rubric of

this immigration crisis, border crisis that the president has declared. >> yeah. andrea. so it's been fairly quiet here so far this morning. we have been in front of this central processing center for the past several hours, and we have seen the big busses that are used to transport migrants in this area coming and going, but we haven't seen migrants on them. but of course, this could look very different in the coming days and weeks with the announcement of those 1500 troops that are going to be headed here to el paso and also to san diego, and officials saying that they are not going to be dealing necessarily with enforcement, but rather rather with detection and monitoring defense officials saying that they're going to be helping to build border barriers and also assisting with deportation flights. and just to give you a bit of context about how things go sort of here in el paso, this bridge actually connects el paso to its sister city, juarez. there's a lot of international trade that happens between these

two cities daily, with people walking and driving across that bridge. we spoke to one woman who was very concerned about what this could mean for their economy here. and she said, it's one thing to, you know, send deport people in the masses who are coming right now. but what about the people who have been here for decades and have really become a part of this economy? and we heard the mayor here overnight sort of echoing that, saying that he wants to continue to let this be a welcoming and safe space and that the economy is really going to be critical in all of this. and we also i will just note on the other side in juarez, we know that they are setting up these massive tents that are expected to be open by the end of the day so that they can begin to accept people who may be being returned to mexico. andrea. >> and this is obviously a really fluid situation. veronica, you're the daughter of immigrants. you worked for ice for a number of years. talk to us about how this is all going to go down at the border. most of the people in your

organization, as you just explained to me, are in new jersey, new jersey and new york. >> yeah. >> and i. think that what the approach that human immigration is taking right now is to really focus on a holistic approach, because there's so much fear with all these executive. actions that have been have been enacted, from rescinding the term of non-citizen to alien. these are very pointed policy decisions. and today, another order showing that anyone present inside the united states, who has been here for less than two years, can now go into a expedited removal, which gives less due process rights. and so we are, number one, trying to support all non-citizens, no matter where they're located, letting them know that there are many organizations here that are fighting for their rights. >> are you organizing lawyers for them? >> yes. and so we at human immigration, we also mentor new lawyers. we have a big community. we're located all over the united states, and we

are doing pro-bono work, especially for people who don't have the means for lawyers, because these are very essentially what trump is doing is using a cannon to kill a mouse. it's very destructive and very disproportionate to the issue at hand. >> i mean, you were an ice lawyer. yes. and so, you know, this whole issue inside and out, how challenging is it for people? some have language barriers. they don't have finances, some have jobs, some don't. they're afraid of deportation orders. >> and i think that coming from the ice environment, it's a very unsympathetic environment. the they don't understand that what we have here, noncitizens don't have that in their country. even something as simple as pushing an elevator button at 26 federal plaza, they've never seen things like that before. and so we expect them to navigate the system without the help of a lawyer. these are civil proceedings, and even though they have the right to a lawyer, they're not assigned one, not even if they're detained. and

right now, what we're also seeing is that people in new jersey and new york, if they're detained in these states, they can be sent to louisiana. immigration has that authority. and so that makes it even more difficult to find counsel to represent them. >> so challenging. they're fortunate to have you, but thank you. it's just an enormous national crisis. thank you very much. >> thank you. >> and we have breaking news. new york attorney general letitia james just announced a multi-billion dollar payout to settle the opioid crisis. lawsuits against purdue pharma and the sackler family in a new settlement just announced purdue pharma and the family that owns it have agreed to pay up to $7.4 billion over 15 years, with a portion going directly to the victims of oxycontin addiction or their survivors. the deal is $1 billion more than the previous settlement that was rejected by the supreme court last year. the new agreement still needs federal bankruptcy

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roger wicker just said, according to frank thorp, our top capitol hill producer, that when asked about how close the vote might be this afternoon on pete hegseth, that there might be three no votes, three republican, no votes, meaning that all the democrats would hang together, that there were three votes, possibly against him on the republican side, it would mean that vice president jd vance would be needed to break a tie. so he said, i would just tell jd vance to stick around. meanwhile, president trump unveiled a $500 billion artificial intelligence infrastructure project tuesday surrounded by executives from softbank, oracle and openai's ceo sam altman. well, notably absent from the roosevelt room was elon musk, trump's ally. we know he was in washington. he was in the white house just yesterday. but he's had a long standing feud with sam altman. hours later, elon musk undercut the trump backed plan, saying online without any evidence that two of the companies behind the

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that these private sector companies already had planned. i understand that. >> satya nadella has pledged 80 billion. >> from microsoft. >> and i know that openai. >> and softbank. >> have pledged money. >> but it. would be good also for them to detail where the. >> 500 billion. >> is coming from. >> and isn't this something that these projects must have started under the previous administration? this doesn't just happen overnight. on day two or day three of the new white house. >> of course it doesn't. >> and this is something. >> that microsoft and openai and others. >> have been planning. >> so i guess. >> you know, i mean. >> if trump. wants to get in. >> front of the. >> parade and take the credit, i. >> get that. i mean, that's. been he's. >> a great marketer, but i genuinely. was left wondering, what is he. >> what is. >> his role in this? what is the federal government's role in it? >> is the. >> federal government. >> going to put in funding? are we going. >> to get. >> for our. >> military the use. >> of some of. >> this compute power? >> are we going.

>> to have. >> a say in it or. >> is it going. >> to be all private? it just seemed like he was. >> announcing something. >> that. >> the private sector already had planned. >> you understand these issues coming from the silicon valley better than, you know, any of us, frankly. what do you make of president biden's farewell address? his warning about the billionaire class and their incredible presence at the inaugural in front of many cabinet officers on monday? >> well, i. >> think. >> there are. >> two things that need to be separated. >> one is the role of money. in politics, and there's an. unholy alliance between. >> wealth and. >> power. >> people spending millions. >> of dollars or. >> billionaires in. >> super pacs. >> and that needs to. >> be. >> changed with an overturning of citizens united. >> of. >> what maine. >> did. >> restricting the amount. >> that billionaires can give to. >> super pacs. and frankly. >> it was. >> a. problem on both sides. >> i mean. >> we had our. share of. billionaires on our side.

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