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>> good day. i'm chris jansing, live at msnbc headquarters in new york city. fema under fire. president trump slamming the federal agency. >> while claiming. >> he's got a plan to clean up the mess left by multiple natural disasters in states like north carolina and california. his idea let the states fend for themselves. plus, confirm or deny. with the fate of pete hegseth still in doubt just hours before the senate votes on whether to make him the next secretary of defense. what are republicans doing to get him over the finish line? and it's like christmas for conspiracy theorists. president trump promising to release files on the assassinations of jfk, bobby kennedy and martin luther king, information that's been unavailable to the public for more than half a century. a lot to get to on this friday. but we start with president trump using a tour of disaster zones as an opportunity to attack federal

first responders and float plans to change the way fema operates, or even pull the plug on the agency altogether after he says. >> they. >> quote, let the country down. the president is right now visiting flood ravaged north carolina, and later he'll head to california, where wildfires are still burning. and while presidents typically use these kinds of trips to reassure people that the federal government has things under control, trump said up to this point, the opposite has been true. >> fema has really let us down, let the country down. and i don't know if that's biden's fault or whose fault it is. we're going to go to the site now, and we're going to figure out a plan, a plan for really demolition and cleaning, because not a lot has been done. and we're very disappointed in the biden administration, but we're going to make up for lost time. in all fairness to the governor and all fairness to everybody else. fema was not on the ball.

>> well. >> this isn't the first time the president has attacked fema or complained that federal disaster assistance hasn't. assistance hasn't done enough to help people. he's now adding a new twist. he says he wants. >> to scale. >> back fema's responsibilities and leave it to states to handle their own disasters. i want to bring in nbc's kelly o'donnell, who's in asheville, north carolina. morgan chesky is in pacific palisades, california. so, kelly, you are in nc. the president meeting with families right now affected by the storm. one man just told him he feels lucky to be alive. what more can you tell us about the president's trip? >> well, in the latest interactions the president has had, he has been hearing directly from survivors who talked about water rising swiftly, the panic belongings to higher ground. the also hearing about the prolonged response

issues of mold remediation, issues of trying to get debris off their property, how to begin the rebuilding process of their homes. for anyone who is hit by one of these life altering disasters, it is a long road back and it is difficult. and no doubt it feels lonely and very stressful. and the president's hearing about that right now. on his time here. he's also been talking a lot about the politics of and the approach that he has to government, which is definitely something that is really front and center in his mind. when he talked about changing, maybe even disbanding fema. of course, in his first term, he was familiar with how fema worked. and during the time that he's been out of office, fema has continued in that process. and when disasters hit, whether it's here in north carolina or in california, the state is the first line of defense. governors using the resources they have. but we know states have limited budgets and are not positioned for

cataclysmic recovery. that's where the national federal system comes in. and fema is such a big part of that. here's part of what president trump said about his displeasure surrounding fema and how it could change. >> i'll also be signing an executive order to begin the process of fundamentally reforming and overhauling fema, or maybe getting rid of fema. i think, frankly, fema is not good. i think we're going to recommend that fema go away. >> what he does not say, chris, is if fema were to go away, what would be in its place if you put that burden on states, where does the money come from? he made a reference to the money would come directly from us. not sure exactly how he defines that, but it is really a challenge that certainly every governor, i'm sure, across the country, whether republican or democrat, is perked up by hearing that. and what does it mean? we have not yet gotten details about what his approach is, or what the language of an

executive order changing fema. certainly, we knew the president wanted to bring reforms and changes and different approaches to government. he always talks about things like bureaucracy and the cost of these agencies. and yes, fema is a costly one, but we don't have the specifics. and certainly one thing we do know is that at any moment there could be another natural event or kind of crisis where fema steps in to help people on the ground. and so change coming at a time when there's an active crisis in california and a recovering crisis here in north carolina is certainly notable. we have damage here behind us. but let me also say that asheville is recovering, and i'm sure they would love people to come and visit. the president's visit will bring attention to that as well. that's part of the healing process, too. >> chris kelly o'donnell, thank you for that. >> so, morgan, trump has been particularly vocal about california and governor newsom and places a lot of the blame on newsom for what's happened with

the fires. and yet the governor is supposed to be there, right there on the tarmac when the time comes for him to arrive for the president to arrive. it's going to be interesting to watch the dynamic and how that's going to shape california. what can you tell us? >> yeah, interesting. maybe a bit of an understatement here, chris. >> it's been some time. >> since governor. >> newsom spoke to president trump, and he. >> did say that he's. >> going to try to put politics to the side. >> here and greet the president when he arrives on the tarmac. as you. >> mentioned, all eyes. >> will. >> be. >> on what. >> sort of exchange those two. >> men have. >> we do know that yesterday, when he announced $2.5 billion. >> in relief, the california governor said that they do have a past history. >> of being able to work together to. >> get things done, particularly. >> on the relief front. >> but you look at the devastation here behind me, chris, not just in the palisades, but in neighboring altadena. this is a. generational disaster. this is very much a different ball game, and that is why there is some concern when they heard president trump sort of mention a potential. quid pro quo for

relief for california, that that could be the case here. that remains to be seen right now, but we'll be watching and waiting to see if president trump shares any sort of insight as to what may be provided to california in terms of federal aid. of course, there has been a lot of eyeballs drawn to the fact that president trump, over the last week or so, said that california needs to turn the water back on, that it was turned off because they were trying to protect an endangered fish. experts have said that that is a different issue entirely than what firefighters dealt with when it came to this particular firefight, and why reserves were not available just because of the unprecedented demand of much more importance, at least for this palisades fire. chris, is the fact, as we've heard, that 117 million gallon reservoir that was offline for maintenance, that was not available as firefighters tried to save as many houses as they could in this particular neighborhood. we know that they had three, 1

million gallon tanks that went dry over the about the first 12 hours or so of this firefight that is now under investigation. one of several things that investigators are taking a much closer look at here throughout the president's visit and in the days and weeks after, as well. chris. >> morgan. chesky, thank you. i want to bring in ohio's former republican governor, john kasich, who's an msnbc political analyst. lars anderson is a former senior official for fema under president obama. good to have both of you here. so, governor, what's your reaction generally to what you've heard and seen from donald trump today? >> well, look. >> i think that we want to have government move at the speed of business. and the fact is, is that one of the frustrations that communities have is we don't know when they're coming. we don't. know when they're going to give us answers. i actually went through something, chris, that didn't involve fema, but it. involved the cdc. we thought we might have an ebola problem. >> out here. >> we couldn't get them to show

up. i ended up having to charter an. >> airplane to. >> get them to. >> come, because they. >> couldn't figure out how to get to columbus. ohio from washington. it makes you tear your hair out. and so i think the idea that we would look at fema, try to figure. >> out how. >> we can make it move faster, and they have their work to do, turning everything over to the states. that's not necessarily good, because states are always going to ask for whatever they can get. so i think a good balance where the state does. >> its part. >> but at the same time that fema moves as quickly as is possible and to get some of these things resolved, that's the way we ought to go. every one of these agencies. >> can. >> stand a little kick in the backside and to get moving a little bit faster, that's that's. >> my view. >> yeah. so two. >> things. >> can be true if i hear what you're saying is right. and i think most people would agree government can get better. bureaucracy can untangle a bit. i think most americans would agree with that. but is there a worry about throwing out the baby with the bathwater to disparage people who work for

fema? is that a helpful idea to suggest maybe that we get rid of fema altogether? is that the answer? >> that's again, that's kind of rhetoric. we don't know what the plan is. what i suspect, at the end of the day, for people who have been involved in this, i think you're going to see an effort being made by people throughout. fema to, you know, try to move faster. we have so much bureaucracy, so many rules and regulations trimming those down. because, chris, if you if i'm in a governor of the state of ohio and we get some horrific disaster, i don't want to be sitting around every day being delayed in terms of what i can do. i'm going to need the federal help, and i want them to move quickly. and, you know, look, nobody's interested. i'm not interested in saying, you know, we go and belittle people. that doesn't make sense. but i think everybody in these organizations can say, hey, we can do a little bit better. i think that makes perfect sense. >> lars. i want to play a little bit more of what the president and we can see him now with folks. he's shaking hands and talking to some of the residents there. here's what he said just

a little while ago about fema. >> fema just hasn't done the job. and we're looking at the whole concept of fema. i like, frankly, the concept when north carolina gets hit, the governor takes care of it. when florida gets hit, the governor takes care of it, meaning the state takes care of it. you have a group of people come in from an area that don't even know where they're going in order to solve immediately. a problem is something that never worked for me. >> look, trump is not alone in suggesting states take more responsibility. craig fugate, as you know, was fema administrator during the obama administration. he's also suggested states needed to do more. that said, where's the line? where's the difference between doing more and doing it all? but is the president potentially on the right track? >> no, i don't think so. >> i mean, i think, as. >> the governor. >> said previously, look, every. >> government agency can do some sort. >> of reform. there's always. >> there's always room. >> for improvement. >> but i think. >> if you. >> look.

>> at the capability. >> of the capacity. >> of. >> states when it comes to. >> these large. >> multi-billion dollars disasters. >> the states just. >> don't have the funding. >> and you never really. >> know where. >> these disasters are going to hit, whether they're manmade, whether they're natural. >> so you really. >> need a federal response. and i would i would differ. >> with the president in. >> that when fema goes in. >> to a disaster. >> the fema. >> takes the lead from the governor of the state. >> so saying. >> that, you know, fema comes in and. >> takes charge, that's. >> just not true. we are. or fema is always working hand in hand with the state. >> authorities and really. >> leading the. federal effort. >> but on. behalf of. >> the governor. so i would disagree with the president there. >> well. >> he. also said federal. >> assistance should and i'm quoting him here, go through us instead of through fema. and he suggested that that could cut costs in half. does that make sense to you as someone who worked on the inside. >> what is what is us? >> i mean. >> the fema is. >> the. >> federal government. >> what us is? >> yeah. i have no idea what

he's talking about. >> i mean, fema is us, fema is. >> the. >> american people. fema is the government. >> so i. don't understand what he's talking about when he says. >> the money. >> should go through us. i mean, if he's. >> talking about the money should flow. >> directly to the states. >> there's an issue there in. >> terms. >> of capacity. >> i do think. >> the governor was right when he said earlier, look, after hurricane. >> katrina. >> fema went through a major reform. i think that there are. >> fema is always looking. >> at lessons learned and always. looking for ways to improve. and i. >> think. >> that's the. case here. i think after these wildfires, after the. horrible floods in north. >> carolina. >> fema is always doing a review and looking at how can we, how can we do things better, how can we do things faster? >> you know, fema. >> deploys when we know a hurricane. >> is coming. fema deploys, supplies, personnel ahead. >> of the storm. >> and it's those types of things that the federal response helps with. you know, these disasters don't hit red america. >> or blue america. >> they hit america. and fema

is. >> there for all americans. >> i think to that point, governor, both the president and house speaker mike johnson polie said, quote, when state and local the disaster exponentially worse, we need to factor that in the governor of louisiana, one of the states that has benefited most from from federal aid in recent years, says it's nothing new to have strings attached. but is there a concern that puts political considerations above the well-being of individual americans? would it make you nervous, let's say, as governor, for the feds to suggest they know better what your state needs than you do? >> well, i think there's a lot of cooperation that can happen, chris, believe it or not. let me give you an example. i remember in the old days when there was flooding down in the, you know, on the coast, down in places like louisiana, where they were building homes in areas that

they knew were going to be affected. and i can remember conversations with people saying, hey, shouldn't there be some change here? so an ability for. and when we look at california now, we know there's a lot of things that people are considering a variety of things in order to protect their homes. and, and what do we do with the brush and how do we do these? how do we do these burns and all that stuff? i think all that needs to be discussed because nobody wants to have a natural disaster happen if it can be prevented. so this has been a long going discussion should in fact, you be able to build something out, you know, in an area where you know it's going to get wiped out. then the government has to come in and help bail you out. i mean, it's an ongoing discussion. maybe we can do better at that. but look, when we did the budget, when i was working to balance the budget, we were always looking not so much to slash and cut, but to improve. there's so much that can be improved. it can be improved in business. it can be improved in government. how do you make things work better? by

thinking differently. can you use technology? do you need this certain rule or regulation? that's how you can have success. that's how we balance the budget four years in a row. it's how we fixed ohio. smart thinking cooperation, state, local feds, all of them together. what we worry about today is, is that capable? are we capable of that because there's so much polarization. but these kind of disasters tend to bring people together and attach strings to what they need to do in california to be a big mistake. and i'm not really hearing that anymore. that would be that wouldn't be good. >> totally off topic about fixing things. could you fix the ohio sports teams, please? particularly cleveland. but that's a story for another day. >> you got it. yeah. >> former governor john kasich and larz anderson, i don't know where that came from. maybe my team is not in the playoffs yet. again, thank you both. have a great weekend. coming up in 90s. we are just hours away from finding out if pete hegseth will be confirmed as the next defense

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couple more republicans still uncommitted, hex's nomination appears set to come down to a razor thin margin that could require vice president jd vance to cast a tie breaking vote. how tonight will go down a mystery even to president trump, who was asked about it by garrett hake earlier today. >> whatever it is, it is. he's a good man. i don't know what's going to happen. you never know in those things. but pete's a very, very good man. i hope he makes it. i hope he makes it. i was very surprised that collins and murkowski would do that. and of course, mitch is always a no vote. i guess that's mitch, a no vote. how about mitch? >> nbc's julie sirkin is reporting from the hill. nbc's garrett hake is reporting from the white house. also with us, msnbc host jonathan capehart, associate editor for the washington post and a pulitzer prize winning journalist. welcome to everybody. julie, who are the senators we should be watching most closely tonight to determine whether hegseth gets

over the finish line. >> well, you heard trump say mitch mcconnell, certainly he is somebody that we are still watching, although he did vote along with other republicans to advance his nomination yesterday. all but those two, collins and murkowski, actually voted against that motion to proceed yesterday, which essentially means that we expect them to stick by their vote today, especially with those scathing statements. but in addition to mitch mcconnell, there are a couple others who are uncertain about that. and they've felt this way to be clear for months. it's his alcohol abuse. the allegations from the women in monterey that he had denied. it's the allegations disclosed in this affidavit this week for the first time, signed by somebody on the record. but they still need more, especially when it comes to crossing the man who now occupies the white house across pennsylvania avenue and is certainly putting pressure on these senators not to cross him. take a listen to what senator thom tillis had to tell us this week. watch. >> i go through. >> extensive due diligence, and people want. >> to reach out to me and.

>> want to talk about. >> their account, i do it. i have talked to numerous people. i've spent hours on the phone. i have yet. >> to find. >> i see. these accounts. i've yet. >> to find. >> one instance of a first hand account with corroboration to support the allegations. if i find that. then it would influence my vote. >> now, in our reporting, chris, i can tell you that it's been difficult for lawmakers, for senators, for staff to get in touch directly with women who may have firsthand accounts or even people that he's worked with. because, of course, outside of the allegations that we've seen in this affidavit, there were issues with toxic workplace environments, with his handling of those veterans organizations financial mismanagement. it's been difficult for these people to come forward, in part because of certain confidentiality agreements that we've uncovered in the course of our reporting here. but in the next few hours, we should have a better sense of where this vote stands tonight. chris. >> so, garrett, we also have

some new information about a payment that hegseth made to a woman who accused him of sexual assault back in 2017. tell us about that. >> that's right. chris, it's rare. >> that. the questions for the record portion of a confirmation hearing makes much news. but in this case, it was a response from hegseth team to a question after the hearing was concluded. that allows us to now be able to report that the payment hegseth ultimately made as part of a settlement agreement with that woman from the 2017 incident, was a $50,000 payment made after the fact. now you remember, hegseth denies any criminal wrongdoing in that case, and the da in monterey said that the decision not to file charges was made because that there was not sufficient evidence to prove any crime beyond a reasonable doubt. and that attorneys have argued that they believe he was essentially the victim of blackmail by this person following up years after the event. but i think having a dollar figure attached to that settlement agreement, especially in the waning days of his confirmation, is just one more

data point that all those fence sitting senators that julia was just discussing will have to consider. >> so, jonathan, let's talk about those fence sitters. what do you read into those who won't say yet how they'll vote? could we be in for a surprise tonight? do you think. >> anything is possible, chris? anything is possible. and look, if you are a member of the republican party in the senate, you want to keep your powder dry. so is that you don't incur the wrath of donald trump, the wrath of elon musk, the wrath of any of president trump's supporters. so that way you can truly make an honest assessment from your own vantage point of how you're going to vote for this. i mean, we saw what happened to senator joni ernst, who at the nomination or the revelation that he was going to be donald trump's pick for defense secretary. she came out there very strongly saying that she was troubled by this

nomination, given the allegations of sexual misconduc, plus allegations about mismanagement of what julie was talking about, those those veterans organizations and then the donald trump unleashed the mob on her. and now she is one of the we're not talking about her anymore. we're not talking about the potential of her being a no vote against pete hegseth, because a few weeks ago, just before the inauguration, she announced that she would support him. so folks keeping their powder dry in this day and age with donald trump's republican party, that's probably the wisest thing they could do. >> well, i wonder, do you think, jonathan, that there are republicans who are holding their no votes essentially for other controversial nominees who are going to start having their hearings next week? tulsi gabbard, rfk, kash patel, and they feel like, well, i can't vote no on all of them. is there a sliding scale? what are you hearing?

>> well, no. and i think that that's the calculation that that is being made. maybe, maybe some of these people who are staying silent are want to stay silent because maybe they're going to vote for hegseth, but not vote for gabbard, not vote for kash patel, the nominee for fbi director. but again, the one thing i the one thing i learned from president trump's first term in the white house is to have an open mind and an even broader imagination now that we're in president trump's second term in the white house, where he has much more experience, much more defined plans of what he wants to do and who he wants around him. anything is possible, chris. anything is possible. >> jonathan capehart, julie sorkin, garrett hake, truer words never spoken. anything is possible. thank you. be sure to check out jonathan show this saturday and sunday show with jonathan capehart, weekends 6 p.m. eastern on msnbc. and still ahead, the anti-abortion

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military troops arriving to help enforce president biden's president trump's border policies. nbc's priscilla thompson is part of the reporting team that witnessed those landings in el paso. so what more can you tell us about the role the us military is planning to play at the border? >> yeah, chris. >> well, we know that one of the things that they are doing is assisting with these mass deportation flights using military aircraft, and we saw the beginnings of that yesterday when the first flights took off from american soil, one of them, at least one of them coming from this army airstrip behind me here in el paso. a source familiar confirming that there were about 80 migrants on board that flight. and the guatemalan government also confirming that they did receive one of those flights earlier this morning. and my colleagues, courtney and john allen, are also now reporting that there was an additional flight that went out from the u.s. and also landed in guatemala. we're working to confirm where exactly that

flight originated from in the u.s, but another 80 migrants on that flight. and, of course, it comes, as you mentioned, as we were out reporting yesterday, and we saw these military aircraft overhead and rushed over to this army airstrip where we caught that exclusive video of those troops deplaning from those military aircraft. and we spoke to a spokesperson with fort bliss, who confirmed those were among the 1500 soldiers that they are expecting to receive here, army and marine corps troops that are going to be assisting with this southern border mission. and so, in addition to helping with those flights, we know that they are also going to be helping to build some of the barriers, put up wire, that kind of thing. the other thing we know is that they are not expected to actually assist in immigration enforcement, but rather their focus is going to be on monitoring and detection. chris. >> priscilla thompson i know you'll keep us posted as you see more. thank you for that. the first week of the second trump administration is giving new energy to the anti-abortion

movement, just as a big crowd is making its way through washington today for the annual march for life. as the new york times puts it, the movement is charging ahead with their ultimate mission to end all abortions nationwide. freshly emboldened by powerful allies in washington, a continued supreme court majority and legislative opportunities in conservative states. nbc's vaughn hillyard is following this for us. and vaughn, we saw the huge crowds that are there. j.d. vance speaking to them right now. both president trump and the vice president addressing the march for life a day after trump pardoned 23 people who were convicted of blocking access to abortion clinics. tell us more. >> yeah. nine of those individuals were found guilty, stemming from a law that was passed by congress and signed by president biden in 2022, that prevented anti-abortion activists from essentially blocking or impeding reproductive health clinics efforts. and these 23

individuals, they were pardoned by president trump through this executive order that was heralded by the likes of missouri senator josh hawley. you're looking at these live images of j.d. vance. notable first appearance for the vice president since being sworn in on monday. but speaker johnson, as well as senate majority leader john thune were there as well. this congress is committed that they intend to repeal that very law that was signed under the bush or under the biden administration. and there was another executive order that just two days ago that president trump signed that referred to life, a person beginning not at birth, but at conception. i want to let you listen to president trump, who is down in north carolina at this very moment, but recorded a video that just played here at the march for life. take a listen. >> in my second term, we will again stand proudly for families and for life. we will protect

the historic gains we have made and stopped the radical democrat push for a federal right to unlimited abortion on demand up to the moment of birth, and even after birth. think of that after birth, and some people want that. can you believe it? >> now, of course, in the months leading up to the 2024 election, chris, there were many republicans who were concerned about his position on abortion, as he suggested that these decisions should be left up to the states and that he would not sign a federal abortion ban and wouldn't even advocate in some states to pass very restrictive abortion measures. he had suggested he did sign the strict abortion measure, or he voted in favor of the strict abortion measure that was on the ballot in his home state of florida here. but for president trump, there was another decision that was made, and that was by nominating robert f kennedy jr, who is been at times pro reproductive rights. and there was concern among some in the

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assassination of john f kennedy and more than 50 since rfk and martin luther king were murdered, deconstruction of the assassinations have been a lucrative and conspiracy laden

cottage industry. books, movies, documentaries, websites, even a 2016 campaign controversy. when donald trump tried to falsely link the father of senator ted cruz to the jfk assassin. >> his father was with lee harvey oswald prior to oswald's being, you know, shot. i mean, the whole thing is ridiculous. what is this? right? prior to his being shot, and nobody even brings it up. i mean, they don't even talk about that. >> cuba and the cia are central to other widespread conspiracies and the deep federal investigation known as the warren report failed to quiet many skeptics. now, president trump says everything will be revealed signing an order to release the full assassination files. nbc's peter alexander has the details. >> reporter they are among the most sensational american murders of the 20th century. the assassinations of president john f kennedy, his younger brother robert f kennedy, and the civil

rights leader. >> martin luther. >> king jr. now, president trump is. >> ordering the full public. release of. >> classified files related to their killings, saying it will end the mysteries surrounding them. >> that's a big one. a lot of people are waiting for this for a long. for years. >> on jfk's 1963. >> death, the. warren commission report. concluded lee harvey oswald. >> acted alone, but questions and conspiracy theories have lingered for decades, fueling an industry of books and films like oliver stone's 1991 hit movie jfk. >> people got. >> to know why. >> he. >> was killed. >> kennedy's nephew, robert f kennedy jr, trump's nominee to lead the health and human services department, has long insisted the cia played a role in his uncle's murder, an allegation the cia has denied. president trump mentioning kennedy when he signed the order. >> give that to rfk jr. >> rfk jr, praising the president's action. >> we need to have more. transparency in our government.

>> and he's keeping. >> his. >> promise to. >> have the government. >> tell the truth. >> to the american people. >> but jfk's grandson, jack schlossberg, is not pleased, posting in part, declassification is using jfk as a political prop when he is. >> not here to punch back. >> there's nothing heroic about it. in 1968, rfk and mlk jr. s murders again shocked america. rfk's assassin, sirhan sirhan, remains in prison to this day. members of doctor king's family have asked if he was the victim of a government plot to kill him. the assassinations ushering in an era of distrust that president trump may be looking to erase. >> he feels, and other people. >> might feel, that. >> to have these final records. and at. >> least dispel. some of the mysteries. >> might help to clear away at least a little bit. >> of the confusion. >> and the distrust. >> that was. >> peter alexander reporting. let me go to peter baker, new york times chief white house correspondent and msnbc political analyst. well, peter,

according to the national archives, of the 320,000 documents related to president kennedy's assassination, assassination, 99% have already been released. but what do we know about the files that have been kept secret until now? is there potentially some big revelation in there? >> well, we don't know, obviously, for sure. >> we're told by the people who have processed. >> these papers in the past that, no, there's no great. >> smoking gun in there. there's no secret that's going to somehow. >> shatter our. understanding of what happened there. but of course, it's not. >> surprising that. >> the. >> fact that there are still several thousand documents that haven't been released in full would. >> provoke. >> you know, suspicion and curiosity right now. what the archives have said, the intelligence agencies have said is that the things that. >> have been. >> left out, things that have been redacted, are things that don't. >> actually bear. >> on. >> you know. >> any of these mysteries regarding jfk. they they might be the names of cia assets at. >> the time. >> or intelligence methods, or perhaps things that were ordered

sealed because of grand jury testimony or things like that, but not necessarily germane. >> to the larger mystery. >> but again, you know, the fact that they haven't released it after all this time, you know, does raise questions. there was a 1992 law that said everything had to be released within 25 years, except for things that might damage the national interest. and both president trump and president biden ultimately went along with the intelligence agency on withholding some of that. >> yeah. in fact, trump spoke about the pressure he was under in his first term, of course, from his own secretary of state, not to release the documents. take a listen. >> so many people have asked me to do that. and i did. i did it with kennedy to an extent. but i was asked by some of our government officials not to. and, you know, you have to respect them. i was actually asked by mike pompeo, who was secretary of state, not to. and he i felt he knew something that maybe, you know, when he asked you not to, you sort of say why.

and he felt that it was just not a good time to release him. and you might ask him why. maybe he'll maybe he'll deny that even. but he did. >> so do we know it changed with trump? >> well. >> for trump. well. >> but for trump, i think he became frustrated that the fact that, you know, that the agencies had, in fact, resisted him and that they didn't, you know, find some way to release the remaining information by the end of his first term. remember, he has a bad relationship with the intelligence agency. he doesn't trust them, believe that they were out to get him in the first time around because of the investigation into russia's interference in the election. and of course, i think bobby kennedy junior's, you know, high profile presence in trump's circle, of course, must also be a factor here, something that, you know, it's an easy thing for trump to do. now, we don't know that these remaining documents will actually be released. let's keep, you know, a little bit of skepticism here. he has signed

an order asking or telling his officials to come back with a plan to do this, but we'll see what actually happens. no, no, no papers have been released as of now under this order. and we'll have to see where it actually leads us. >> we're out of time. but i just have to ask you. he's old enough to remember them. he was alive when these three assassinations happened. has he ever expressed any personal curiosity or statements other than what was totally not proved, which was that ted kennedy's dad had something to do with lee harvey oswald? >> yeah. not only not proved, but shown last year during trump's hush money trial to be a complete fabrication by the national enquirer, specifically to try to smear senator cruz on trump's behalf. so it goes to show that a lot of stuff that surrounds this episode, the jfk assassination, you know, a lot of it is still suspicious, and a lot of stuff is out there that's complete disinformation and sorting through it. you know, a lot of very smart people who've been trying to research this for years. trump is a conspiracy

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>> so, as you know, there's a new resident at 1600 pennsylvania avenue. >> but it's the. new residents. >> here at the national zoo that really have this city buzzing, right? giant pandas are iconic here in washington. they have been for more than 50 years. and now we have two new pandas that have come from china. they are on loan. the national zoo is paying $1 million a year for. ten years. bao li and ching bao are the two three year olds. they've already been frolicking in the snow, rolling down, sliding down, climbing in the trees. really a lot of fun to watch as we've had awfully cold temps here in washington and a lot of snow. but of course, the pandas have absolutely loved that. we're told that these two have unique personalities, right? bao li is the male and he is like a typical boy. he is very active. he likes to play. he likes to interact with humans. ching bao is the female. she's more reserved. she's a

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program. a busy day here, but you can always visit them for free at the national zoo. back to you. >> not a bad assignment. tom. thank you. and still ahead. outrage in newark after the mayor says ice agents raided a business without a warrant, detaining multiple people, including u.s. citizens. more on including u.s. citizens. more on the fallout ahead. (sigh) (snoring) if you struggle with cpap... you should check out inspire. honey? inspire. sleep apnea innovation. learn more and view important safety information at inspiresleep.com hi, i'm damian clark. i'm here to help you understand how to get the most from medicare. if you're eligible for medicare, it's a good idea to have original medicare. it gives you coverage for doctor office visits and

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