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>> welcome back to the weekend. just hours after swearing to preserve, protect and defend the constitution of the united states, donald trump issued an executive order to defy one of its most consequential amendments. the order asserts that birthright citizenship, the idea that anyone born on u.s. soil has automatic citizenship, does not extend to the children of undocumented immigrants or lawful permanent residents of the united states. well, this week, following a lawsuit from democratic attorneys general, a federal district court judge temporarily blocked the order. but while that case is being adjudicated every day, communities are still bracing for the impacts of trump's immigration agenda, with officials in newark, new jersey, accusing ice of raiding a seafood restaurant without a warrant, detaining undocumented immigrants and united states citizens alike. joining us now is new jersey attorney general matthew platkin.
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>> general, it's good to have you on this morning. this is this is disturbing news that's developing around these executive orders, specifically with respect to the constitutional rights of people here in the united states on this soil. how how is your office preparing for all of this? what measures or steps do you see yourself or your office taking necessarily on a proactive as opposed to a reactive basis? >> well. >> thank you for having me. and i think you saw. >> the level of preparation that we have in our office and in offices like mine across the country. when we filed a lawsuit less. than 24 hours after president trump. signed one of the. most unconstitutional. >> unprecedented and. >> i think extreme. orders ever signed by. >> a president of the united
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states. >> attempting to rewrite the constitution and eliminate a 157. >> year old. >> provision that has been accepted as law. >> in. >> the united states since the civil war. so we're certainly. prepared to stand up for the rights. of the residents. of this country. >> and stand. >> up. >> frankly, for the. >> rule of law. >> and, you know, general, as this story was, was breaking about the attorney generals and then also the raids, we looked at the demographics of the state of new jersey. i remembered very distinctly governor phil murphy telling me once that the largest, one of the largest ukrainian populations in the united states is actually in new jersey. about 23.4% of new jersey residents are foreign born, 13.8% of its us born residents live with at least one immigrant parent, and immigrants make up about 29% of new jersey's labor force. that's according to the american immigration council. 34.5% of entrepreneurs, 41.4% of stem workers, 33.3% of nurses in the
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state. needless to say that this goes right at the heart of the very communities that you serve. >> without question, you laid it out so well. symone, we are a state of immigrants. frankly. we're a nation of immigrants. and in new jersey, you know. >> i live in the shadow of the statue of liberty. this is the. state of ellis. >> island. >> and millions of people. >> have come to our. >> state and built a home and raised children. here and. >> run businesses. >> here, and contributed to our economy and our society. >> it's who. >> we are. we're arguably the most diverse. >> state in. >> america, and we've been. >> a. state that has been. >> home to immigrant communities for centuries. and so it really does. when you say. >> think about. >> this, when you say that children. >> born in this country are. >> not. >> citizens of this country, i mean, we. have to. >> take a. >> step back. we're going to win. >> in the court. >> but if a. president can, with a stroke. >> of a. >> pen. >> declare that. >> children born here are somehow. some second class,
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that. they're not americans, we don't know what. >> they are. >> then the. >> rule of. >> law really is at issue. that's what we're talking about. >> i think, general, you put your finger on a very important point there that people don't think about. and that is let's let's play this out. let's play it out, okay. let's say by some strange occurrence that the supreme court ultimately says, yeah, birthright citizenship is unconstitutional. what is the what is the then constitutional remedy for that child that's born under that mantle? when that child is at some point subject to subject to the state? i mean, how how do we treat them? what do we say? what what are their rights? do they do they attach at some point? i mean, these are big questions that that trump doesn't have the capacity to think through because for him, it's all about the emotional impact of doing
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the act and to showing how much power he has. but at the core of this are the rights of the people. in fact, you had the district court judge, john coughenour, who said, who blocked in blocking this? i've been on the bench for over four decades. i can't remember another case where the question presented is as clear as this one. this is a blatantly unconstitutional order. but yet and still, there are a lot of americans who think that you can just tear this from the constitution, and it'll be okay. there are still big questions that would flow from that, that would impact all of us in terms of our our rights as citizens, let alone the rights of someone who's born here who suddenly doesn't have citizenship. >> exactly, michael. >> huge questions. >> and they. >> don't even try to address them. it's part of our lawsuit. >> you know. >> so they say that these children born here are not americans, but they don't say
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what. >> they are. >> and these are. >> children who have no ties themselves to any other country. >> this is. >> the country that they were born in. >> and they also lie and say, we're the only country in the world that does this. that's a complete lie. they can just look north to canada. they do. >> it in countries all over the. >> world, because it's a commonly accepted. >> form of citizenship where you're born in a nation. >> it's been accepted in. >> this. country for centuries. they put it in the in the constitution after we fought a bloody civil war. and now you. >> have. >> this administration. i think this is extraordinary in court, arguing. that children of undocumented residents. >> are. >> not subject to the jurisdiction of the united states, meaning. >> they're not subject to our laws. remember, this is the. same administration. >> that is talking. >> about a massive problem. >> with undocumented residents. they're going to deport millions of people. what they're saying is, if a child of undocumented residents is not subject to our laws and they could commit murder in this country and we couldn't prosecute them. so obviously the legal argument has no merit. but more importantly.
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they are trying. and the president himself tried on monday night to rewrite the united states constitution in a way that has never been accepted in the history of this country with the stroke of a pen and i. >> think the american public. >> in addition to the courts, will reject that. in the opening, we have the what's happening with birthright citizenship. and then in the opening here, we also mentioned the ice raids that happened in new jersey. this is from mayor, the mayor of newark, ras baraka, on those raids. take a listen. >> the problem with this is that none of these people were rapists or murderers or criminals. the problem with it is that ice went in there without a warrant, and we can disagree on politics. you can disagree with me about the role immigrants play in the economy of our community. but what we must agree on is that the thing that separates this country from many other countries around the
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world is the constitution of the united states. >> so what is the guidance that your office is giving to folks within the state? particularly? i'm struck by the fact that, as the mayor said, these were not rapists and murderers. i thought i thought the president was going to target the criminals only. but, general, they went in without a warrant. there was just a situation in chicago where school officials in chicago told thought that ice agents came to the school when, after doing their due diligence, the journalists and whatnot found out that it was actually u.s. secret service who were investigating a threat connected to made to the president or made to the president online. it was not ice, and they left their business card and they were not looking to enter the school and round someone up. people are on edge. so what is the guidance that you are giving to schools, to restaurant owners and whatnot? this happened at a seafood restaurant. i can
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imagine owners are on edge, workers are on edge. how is new jersey dealing with this? >> well. >> first of all, i'm sitting in newark right now, and. >> newark is. >> an incredibly. >> rich and diverse community that i love. >> and look. >> i've said. for a long time now, if president. >> trump is talking about. >> deporting people like the mayor said, violent criminals, murderers, no one is standing in the way of that. the state of new jersey has never stood in the way of that. but in order to get to the types of numbers of removals that he is talking about, you're going to have to target people who have done nothing wrong here. now, i don't know the specifics of this case. >> there were no state and local. >> law enforcement involved in that operation. but one. >> thing i do know. >> and we've made this clear, is. >> people. >> have constitutional rights in this country. and those rights did not change from november 5th to november the 6th. and people have a right to ask for a warrant when someone is conducting a law enforcement
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operation. and i think most. >> troubling, or. >> that for me, is. >> that i'm seeing. >> as you. >> mentioned in chicago, this administration, within hours of taking office, revoked a policy that had been in effect for decades across administrations, including in the first trump administration, that they wouldn't conduct enforcement operations in places like schools and hospitals. now, i'm the chief law enforcement officer of new jersey, but i'm also a parent to school age children. i don't think any parent, parent of immigrants, a parent of american citizens, wants law enforcement, armed agents busting into their kids schools, ripping a kid out of the classroom, throwing him in a van and taking him away. first of all, the ability to properly identify a child is really, really limited in that setting. but also it's traumatic for every kid, which is a reason why we have not allowed these types of enforcement actions to occur in and around schools. and so if they are going to do this, the number the reason for it is to
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terrorize a whole generation of kids. >> new jersey attorney general matthew platkin, thank you for your time this morning, and we'll be following up on this story. we look forward to talking to you again soon. coming up, former capitol police officer harry dunn will join us at the table with his reaction to donald trump's pardoning of january 6th rioters. and later, freshman congresswoman sarah mcbride returns to the weekend with her response to what's been a very busy first couple of weeks in congress. don't forget, msnbc has a new resource to help you stay on top of literally all the chaos in these crucial early days of the trump administration. just go ahead and scan that qr code. come on, pick up your phone, scan it on your screen, and you can sign up for our new newsletter, trump's first 100 days. you'll get weekly updates and insights from experts, and they'll be sent directly to your inbox. you don't even have to search for it. we have so much more ahead. don't you go anywhere on the weekend?
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>> so donald trump toured disaster zones yesterday, surveying last year's damage from hurricane helene in asheville, north carolina. and while fire damage in los angeles, where fires are still burning in some areas now, before trump even set foot in l.a, he floated conditioning relief funds to the city. and then he said this about fema. >> i will also be signing an executive order to begin the process of fundamentally reforming and overhauling fema, or maybe getting rid of fema. i think, frankly, fema is not good. i think we're going to recommend that fema go away and we pay directly. we pay a percentage to the state, but the state should fix this. >> okay. >> so donald. >> trump. >> i just. go ahead. >> i know you are. you are correct. >> i just. >> can't even i can't even either because i was pulling up
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when fema was established. because first of all, fema stands for federal emergency management agency, okay. it is the agency that supports citizens and emergency personnel to build, sustain and improve the nation's capability to prepare for, protect against, and respond to, and recover from, and mitigate all hazards. okay. fema came into being in force post-katrina. given the devastation that the people of new orleans. >> and it was also and here's the critical little piece that the president probably doesn't get because he don't read, is the fact that fema's job is to why it was created on the heels of katrina, was the consolidation across agencies and across private agencies out there that are involved in the recovery and health and the administration of services to devastated areas to coordinate those efforts and the monies
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that fema has allocated by the united states congress is designed to put cash in, in, in hand immediately to get things moving so that you don't have the processes that slow down the recovery. putting this exclusively in the hands of states they are will be overwhelmed by it. they cannot. first off. >> they have their own fema already. they have their own emergency. >> they don't have they won't have the next level of cash that they're going to need to address that. so that's a part of. >> it, which is why, in your words, fema was leveled up post-katrina. it was originally created in 1979, and then in about 2003, it officially became a part of the department of homeland security under there. and then it was leveled up, in the words of michael steele post katrina. why do we say all this? because if donald trump wants to eliminate fema entirely, he's going to have to go to congress to get congress's approval for a reorganization, a presidential
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reorganization authority. and so he would have to seek this from both chambers. both chambers would have to give it. i find it very hard to believe that places like new york, it's time to go vote for this. >> i don't know, tom. yeah. i, you know, louisiana, north carolina, alabama, mississippi, all those states. florida getting to then we get into the, the tornado. tornado alley. tornado alley. those states ohio, iowa. except. so y'all get prepared to have the federal government just go away on terms of its response and leave it to you. i just want to know how they're going to pay for it. >> how are they going to pay for it? well, you know, michael, you know, they say this is what this is what they voted for. >> this is what they voted for. >> this is what they voted for. >> so we're about to vote for something else. coming up, trump once again shows his complete disregard for the rule of law by pardoning hundreds, hundreds of january 6th riders will discuss with former capitol police officer harry dunn next. this is officer harry dunn next. this is the weekend. prilosec knows, for a fire...
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putting conditions on some pardoned january 6th defendants, and donald trump's justice department is pushing back. yesterday, judge amit mehta said several defendants, including oath keepers leader stewart rhodes, could not enter the us capitol or even set foot in parts of washington, dc without prior permission. shortly after, to no one's surprise, the justice department asked for that order to be dismissed, arguing that the defendants should not face restrictions since their sentences have been commuted. former capitol police officer harry dunn joins us at the table. >> so, harry, i know i can't even begin to put words on this this event of this week. i've watched you and your fellow officers sort of talk through this this week. and i know it's very difficult because this is
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perhaps one of the most offensive, disgusting. and in my view, un-american things an american president can do is to embrace the insurrectionists the way he has and to give them carte blanche by saying, not only are you free to go, but, you know, just come on up here to the capitol. anytime you've got members of congress already now preparing to invite them. you have judge amy berman jackson writing. this, those valiant officers who fulfilled their oaths to support and defend the constitution of the united states against all enemies, foreign and domestic. they are the patriots. patriotism is loyalty to country and loyalty to the constitution. not only not loyalty to a single head of state. i just want and i know you've talked about this this week, but just now you're a week into your 4 or 5 days and
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it's happened. how are you digesting this? how are you seeing this moment and what is it saying if you what is this saying to the men and women who are currently serving in this building? >> i'm glad that you aren't able to put into words what's happening. nobody should be able to wrap their heads around what's happening because that normalizes. it normalizes what's happening. under no circumstances should we let this be normal. move on from it. move on. like a lot of republicans are suggesting, hey, let's move on from it. also. it's kind of weird. they say they want to move on from it. but mike johnson just announced the formation of another january 6th committee to investigate it. i'm glad that he is good. keep on investigating it and show america how bad donald trump really was with this. but what it says about the pardons, i mean, it's what we've been saying from day one. it's a slap in the face to the officers. those officers are the real patriots, are the real heroes. like the judge said, those are the people that are patriots,
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the people that honor their oath to this country, that that to the constitution, that are faithful to that and not an individual. donald trump told us. we're told. yeah, he told the world stand for the proud, the proud boys stand back and stand by. and that's exactly what they're doing. he's keeping them on standby in case he needs them again. >> the leader of the proud. well, the former leader of the proud boys, who says it is now not proper to call him an ex proud boy, which means he has rejoined the organization. enrique tarrio. he is seeking revenge after being pardoned by trump for his january 6th conviction. listen, i want to play for folks what he had to say. listen to this. >> there is absolutely. >> nothing i. >> will apologize. >> for because. >> i did nothing wrong. the proud boys did nothing wrong and. american patriots did. >> nothing wrong. >> we are. >> currently assessing our options. >> on not only who to sue,
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because there's a lot. >> of people to sue. >> i want accountability. >> when you hear enrique tarrio say that they are assessing their options, and i think he put he he put it on who to sue in there because that legal ramifications. but the proud boys are not known for seeking legal. yeah. lawsuits. what what do you what what do you what do you feel when you hear. >> you know. >> i don't like to give people like that attention. america saw him for what he is. i mean, whatever donald trump did, i mean, he's a convicted felon, and he his charges, his crimes, what he did will go down in american history. and, you know, those are the type of people we keep giving attention to. they keep on just nagging in the back and just put it plainly, i don't want forget him. the hell with him. it's time to move on. >> i get. >> i get. >> i get what you're saying. for
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your safety or other other former capitol police officers. well, listen. >> i'm not naive. like they've already shown what they're capable of doing. so to say, like, oh, i'm not worried about. that's that's not true at all. everybody's concerned and should should be worried. you know, i've taken proper precautions and things like that. but christopher wray described those individuals as domestic terrorist terrorists. goal is to make people live in fear. if we succumb to live in fear, then they win, and i can't. i refuse to let them win. but like, at the same time, i'm not naive that they are capable of doing crazy, unthinkable things. they've already shown that. but if they're looking for fear, then they won't get it from me. >> so i want to play for you a little bit of donald trump's thinking, musing on what he did and the impact it has on those
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rioters who assaulted police officers. this is him on tuesday with peter alexander. let's take a listen. >> you would. >> agree that. >> it's never. >> acceptable to assault a police officer. >> sure. >> so then, if. >> i can. >> among those. >> you. >> pardoned d.o.j. rodriguez. he drove. >> a stun. >> gun. >> into the neck of a d.c. police. >> officer who. >> was abducted by the mob that day. he later. confessed on video to the. >> fbi and. >> pleaded guilty. >> for. >> his crimes. >> why does. >> he deserve. >> a pardon? >> well, i don't know. is it a pardon? because we're looking at commutes and we're looking at pardons. okay, well, we'll take a look at everything, but i can say this. murderers today are not even charged. >> so we'll let everybody go, and then we'll look to see which one of them are violent offenders. and then do what? donald trump. you're going to put them back in custody. you're going to put enrique tarrio back in jail. you know, what are you going to do? so that tells you
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to your point a lot about how you have to be vigilant in this process because there is no real process. this is just all retribution and this is all aggrandizement with insurrectionists that he fomented and sent to the capitol. when you hear the president say, oh, well, yeah, we'll take a look at the bad guys, the worst of the offenders, now that we've released them all. yeah, yeah. wait, where do you go with this? >> that should have been his answer before he did. releasing everybody. you're supposed to look into it before you make a decision. >> but they did. but they did. did you love that? they looked into it. what did he say? the staff was like, oh, it's just way too many. >> so yeah. so we're just going to pardon. >> you just said f it. pardon them all. >> and you know what. that's that's a that's how donald trump not just with january 6th. that's how he's going to govern and run the country. he'll make a decision and then make an excuse for why he did what he
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did later. he's impulsive. he doesn't think about the ramifications of his actions and the things that he says. and, you know, he it blows my mind that people are shocked about this. and we're we're oh my gosh, i can't believe he did. what do you mean you can't believe he did it? he said. >> he was going to. >> do it. he said he was going to do it. so those people that are shocked that where were you? have you not been paying attention? i mean, those are the people that i get so angry and frustrated with donald trump. yeah, my anger for him is where it is. but these people, i believe, who think are supposed to know better, who are supposed to be paying attention, like like senator thom tillis and, you know, other senators, and they're coming out with their statements like, oh, that's funny. he why did you say that was unacceptable before he did it? the fraternal order of police, why didn't you all say this is unacceptable before he did it? why do you have to wait? you endorsed him. he said he was going to do this from day one. so that means you weren't paying attention. >> that's the part the fraternal
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order of police right now. >> who? >> oh, i will just note before we let you go that amy berman jackson again, we're just going to keep repeating her words. it would dishonor those valiant officers who fulfilled their oaths to support and defend the constitution of the united states against all enemies, foreign and domestic. they are the patriots. patriotism is loyal to country and loyalty to the constitution, not loyalty to a single head of state. you are a patriot, my friend. thank you, harry dunn. thank you, thank you. next, folks. congresswoman sarah mcbride returns to the weekend to discuss her new role in the democratic caucus and that whirlwind first week of the trump administration. this is the weekend. >> it's aarp. >> are you. >> joining aarp? >> actually, i just. >> did call. >> or go to. join aarp.org. >> to join. >> today for just. $15 for your first. >> year with. >> automatic renewal. >> and your second.
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resort this coming week to discuss the contours of the trump agenda, which is expected to include legislation on the border, energy and tax policy. joining us now to discuss democratic congresswoman sarah mcbride of delaware. welcome, congresswoman. >> welcome. welcome, congresswoman. can we just talk about, in terms of the funding, obviously, the president and republicans in congress have been very clear that they want to make cuts and to pay for some of the things in their agenda, and they want to slash some of the debt. they say, i don't know how what i'm about to tell you is going to slash the debt, but maybe you could tell me this from the new york times. house gop floats, medicaid cuts and more to finance trump's huge agenda. top republicans are passing around an extensive menu of ideas to cover the cost of a massive tax cut and immigration crackdown bill. they could establish new work requirements for medicaid recipients, bringing in $100 billion in savings. we've heard from
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democrats that they're going to protect social security and medicare. our democrats are going to protect medicaid. >> absolutely. what we are seeing right now. by donald trump and republicans in congress over the last week, and what we will likely see in the weeks to come, is the great betrayal they campaigned over. >> the. >> last year on lowering costs, facing workers and families. >> and what we're. >> going to. >> see, and what we are already. >> seeing. >> is an attempt to line the pockets of donald trump's billionaire friends while. >> cutting programs. >> and benefits for working people. >> in this country. we will be defending social security. >> and medicare. >> and. >> medicaid. nearly 1 in 4. >> delawareans rely on medicaid. >> those are delawareans. >> and families. living in poverty and delawareans with disabilities. and instead of cutting this critical program, we should. be expanding it and improving. >> it like we've. >> done here.
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>> in delaware. >> when i was in the state. legislature just last year, we. passed unanimously. >> with bipartisan. >> support. >> my legislation. >> infusing our state's. medicaid program. >> with the largest. >> ongoing source of new resources since the affordable. >> care act to. >> protect it and expand it. >> for. >> the people who rely. >> on it. >> so we should be moving in that direction, not. >> cutting this program that so many of our constituents rely on. >> i think a couple of things that are important to level up in this conversation, so that we don't confuse people because people get medicare and medicaid confused. they think it's all the same. but medicaid is a state program. but the important thing about it is it's health care for the poor. and that's basically what it's monies that are used, as you noted, congresswoman, for those with disabilities, the poorest in our communities, there are there are poverty level requirements for this. so the fact that we have republicans now advocating for the for the elimination of health care for the poor, that's
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what we need to be talking about, in my view, and not just framing it as a medicaid discussion, which is bureaucratic and process oriented, but putting the real fine points on it, as you noted, how it's impacting and will impact delawareans and how, more importantly, what this means for those folks. when those programs are cut, i can tell you just to go off on a little bit before my mother passed her, medicaid was cut off three times. you know why? because she was $300 above a $6,000 limit. so that's what we're talking about here. the limits that poor people have to face, that they, you know, you can't have with so much money in your bank account. and republicans are now saying you don't, you no longer qualify. we want to cut these, these, these programs. for me, that, congresswoman, is the passion in this discussion, not the
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bureaucracy and the bureaucratic bull that the republicans want to focus on. >> yeah. you're absolutely right. >> medicaid is. >> different than medicare. it's administered by. >> the. >> state through a joint. contribution between the state and the federal government. and so if you hear the republicans talking about cutting federal dollars for medicaid, what we have. >> to be clear about. >> are the real. world impacts. of those cuts on people. >> we represent. like i said, 1. >> in 4. delawareans rely on. >> this program. >> that's new. >> moms who. >> are living in. >> poverty, who are already. >> facing a maternal health crisis. in this country. >> today. >> is national. >> maternal health awareness day. we have. >> just. >> expanded medicaid to. >> cover one. >> year postpartum. >> for new moms, a critical point in both the lives. >> of new moms. >> and their children. i don't. i can't believe. >> that the. >> pro-life party. >> wants to cut. >> maternal health care. >> we know for. >> delawareans with. >> disabilities who rely.
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>> on medicaid. >> for long term care. >> for home. >> health to be able to get through the day so their parents can, can, can go. >> back. >> to work even if their adult children, their parents. >> can go back. >> to work so they. can get care throughout the day. >> this would mean cutting. >> these programs. this coverage, and also making it work. less well. >> for providers. >> which would mean fewer and. >> fewer providers, especially in. >> areas like. >> rural communities. >> and urban communities. >> where. >> so many. >> patients rely on. >> medicaid for coverage. >> it is i mean, it's this is the real world impact of these policies. you are actually you've recently been named the democratic whip of policy for the house democratic caucus. congresswoman, it's noted that you're going to prioritize lowering costs facing families in the 119th congress. i know democrats want to talk about lowering the cost and working with republicans where they can, but republicans are talking about all these other things that do not seem aligned with
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the democratic agenda. you have the president of the united states issuing executive order after executive order dismantling the long held policy as it relates to the our civil rights. okay. and from the 1965 order that created affirmative action and equal opportunity and equal opportunity, you have these orders on specifically what he has said about prescription drugs. now, he's rescinded that biden order orders on about trans people. just what are what what is the democrats posture here? and i'm definitely interested in i'm sure you've had a lot of inquiries this week, given just all the crazy from these executive orders specifically, and the chaos they have that has ensued. >> as you. >> noted. >> we will. >> certainly find common. >> ground where. >> we can. that is the responsibility of elected officials. but we will. stand our ground. >> when we must. >> and the last. >> couple of days have been a glimpse into what.
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>> we will likely see from this. >> administration over the next. >> four years. >> look, donald. >> trump kept pretending like he had never heard of project 2025. >> but the. >> vast majority. >> of actions. >> that. >> we've seen. >> in. >> just the last. >> couple of days. >> come straight. >> out of the. >> republican playbook. >> they lied. >> throughout their. >> their campaign. they said. >> they were. >> going. >> to focus on lowering costs, facing families. they're not. >> they said that. >> they didn't know. >> what project 2025. >> is. >> while they're staffing. >> their. administration with its authors and already implementing that. >> agenda, the president. >> said on. monday in the rotunda. >> that we. >> are going. >> to be entering a golden age in america. >> but the reality. >> is, is that they're taking us. >> back to. >> the gilded age. they're taking. >> us. >> back to the 1880s, the 1890s on. >> economic policy lining the pockets. >> of the robber barons. but they're also. taking us back to the 1880s and 1890s. >> on issues. >> of basic rights. >> and freedom. >> in. this country. and i believe that as. >> these actions. >> come forward. >> people will.
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>> react and respond in a way that will hold. >> the administration accountable. >> alongside democrats in congress. >> and i'm going. >> to be. >> working my heart out over the next two years to make sure that. >> democrats get the. >> majority so that we have a bulwark. in the. >> house that. >> is able. >> to. >> protect the financial. >> security of americans. >> and the rights of our neighbors. >> congresswoman, i know we're getting ready to let you go, but i just want to say this. y'all need to chill on this. all this kumbaya partizan bipartisan crap. because at the end of the day, here's your headline republicans shoot down democratic requests to ditch party line immigration, push and write a bipartisan bill. instead, senate republicans are making it clear they will pursue a border package without democratic input. they don't want to work with you. they're not going to work with you. they have the house, the senate and the white house. let them choke on that. >> you know. >> do not help them out because they don't want your help. they're telling you they don't want your help. so y'all need to just come to the table real and
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understand that the person sitting on the other side don't want you at the table. get up, take your coffee and go into another room. >> michael steele said. when they go low, y'all better go toe to toe. >> let me just. >> say this. >> i think the american people want. >> to. >> see elected officials be. >> serious and work together. >> no they. >> don't. >> but you're right. you're right. they're not doing that. they are not doing that. they've made it. >> clear from. >> immigration to economic policy and taxes to basic human rights, they have made clear that they are more interested in driving forward a extreme partizan agenda, rather than pursuing collaborative common sense solutions. i totally agree. >> all right. congresswoman sarah mcbride of delaware, this is why she's the policy person, because she's like, i got an answer for that. i know. thank you very much. >> thank you for your patience. >> i look forward to seeing you again soon. quick programing note, folks. very quick programing. note you scan the qr code on your screen. yes, because next thursday, ahead of the leadership elections for the democratic national committee, , along with my colleagues jen psaki, jonathan capehart and luke russert will hold a virtual
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danielle's argument or statement is that this mechanism, the way this played out, confirms because she was told, you know, you come out and you make the statement. >> and this could change. >> and this could change. >> votes and maybe. and i mean, we saw senator mitch mcconnell's statement. this was not the thing that changed it for him. he had heard enough at the hearing already to know that he was not qualified. and to be frank, i think that all of the allegations and whatnot were, excuse me, extra cherries on top of an already unqualified cake. yeah. he was the basic functions of the job of the secretary of defense. he is not qualified. he is not built to do. he has no experience. your experience being secretary of defense can't be that you are a veteran. thank you for your service. but these other things went to. yes, his character, his conduct and how he would run the office. and i am i am dismayed that danielle hegseth feels like her words were in vain. i'm also dismayed that the that republican members of, particularly the senate
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