eli lilly. see if you qualify at irokotv. >> it's been more than 30 years since the washington commanders played in the super bowl, but one more win today is going to end that drought. fans are gathering to cheer the team in the nfc championship game this afternoon. and joining me from the official commanders watch bar in dc is nbc's gary grumbach. so how excited are the fans there, gary, ahead of this game against the philadelphia eagles? i bet nobody's wearing green. >> not a lot of green here. how excited are the fans here? >> they are. >> really. >> really excited here alex. >> and for good reason. >> we are talking. >> about 30. >> years since the last time the commanders were in a super bowl. in fact, 33 years to this day is when. >> the. >> commanders last. >> won a. >> super bowl. and folks here

have traveled from all over the country to be here. >> at this bar. >> rhode island, new hampshire, here in d.c, here at whitlow's bar in d.c. for the. >> official party. >> they're excited for, of course, the commanders to win. they also want. >> to see. >> jayden daniels, the quarterback of the commanders, become the youngest and first rookie to ever play and start. in a super bowl. >> so that would be history. making in itself. but don't take my word. >> for it. >> here's some fan reaction. >> for you. this is bonkers. i mean. 33 years at least, like i was. i was only a toddler the last time they were this far. >> i'm excited. >> i'm really excited. and honestly, they've made it this far. so it's house money right now. whatever happens, happens. >> whole region. >> is excited. about this. we've got. bagels from bakeries that are being. >> made in burgundy, and gold cookies that are commanders themed. everyone's getting. real excited for. >> what they hope is going to be a commanders win. >> alex. >> i've been laughing through

this entire segment. i love seeing the excitement. it's all good. gary, thank you so much. meantime, in moments, not laughing about the executive order that stands out the most from donald trump's busy first week as president, and it could bring him the most blowback. good day to all of you from msnbc world headquarters here in new york. welcome, everyone. to alex witt reports. we begin this hour with breaking news on the trump administration's plans for mass deportations. we have new images of active duty military service members on thursday deployed along the southern border in california, also of military police. arriving at fort bliss, texas, yesterday to assist the department of homeland security. and today in chicago, nbc news reports. trump's acting deputy attorney general, emil bove, personally observed immigration enforcement operations with the border czar, tom homan. then in colorado.

drug enforcement administration agents released some video showing raids in adams county. agents say they made 50 arrests there. and while new numbers from ice show a reduction in the number of arrests yesterday, the border czar says those are likely to go up. >> we're in the beginning stages. we're bringing more resources into this operation as a whole of government. we're going to have d.o.j. assisting us and the dod piece helping build infrastructure, helping the transportation that takes ice badges and guns out of those duties and puts them on the street. >> also breaking this hour, president trump is reacting to a decision by colombia to turn away two deportation flights from the u.s. he says he has directed his administration to impose new tariffs on that country. also new today, president trump declaring his desire to, quote, clean out gaza, adding he would like egypt and jordan to take in displaced palestinians. we're going to talk with former obama

administration national security adviser ben rhodes in the 3 p.m. eastern hour. and as we look forward to the big week ahead for senate confirmations and hearings, it appears that the jury is still out among republicans on the nomination of tulsi gabbard for director of national intelligence. >> i do hope, though, that we won't see anyone questioning her patriotism. you know, hillary clinton has basically called her a traitor in the past. this is a woman who served more than 20 years in our nation's army. she's passed five different background checks. i reviewed the latest one. it's clean as a whistle. >> can you. >> say right now, are you a. >> yes on tulsi gabbard? >> i'm going. >> to see how the hearing goes. >> i'm inclined to be yes on everybody, but there are some questions she will be. asked that i want to hear the answers to. >> so you're. >> a we'll see. not a yes. we'll see. okay. >> and new this hour, nbc news is reporting that white house officials are warning republicans of consequences if they do not get behind the president's nominee, saying, quote, it's pass fail. you

either support everyone or you don't. we have reporters and analysts ready to go through all of these new developments. and we're going to begin with nbc's jillian fraenkel in florida, where donald trump will be this week. so, jillian, talk us through the latest fallout of trump's move to fire the 18 inspectors general this weekend. what do you know about that? >> yeah, alex, it's been. >> a busy weekend. >> we know that trump. >> late on friday night fired multiple. >> inspector generals. these are. folks who. >> were hired as watchdogs to oversee. >> these federal agencies. >> and look for things like fraud. now, we know that trump is. >> required by. >> law to notify. congress and give them a 30 days heads up ahead of these firings and to give real reasons for why they're taking place. as far as we know, that has not happened yet. our own vaughn hillyard spoke to one of these let go inspector generals from the department of the interior. i want you to hear what he had to say. take a listen. >> there was a lot of. >> discussion before. >> the inauguration. about what president trump would do with the inspector general cadre.

>> this was sort. >> of the worst case. >> scenario was. >> a mass firing. >> if he. >> were to put in folks who. are not independent, then. that undermines the. >> entire basis of the inspector general community. >> the whole construct. >> because what. >> happens is. >> no one will. >> believe their reports. >> no one will believe their findings have any credibility. and if they don't have any credibility, folks are just going. >> to throw them away. >> and alex, it's still unclear at this time who is going to be chosen to fill these roles and when that swap will take place. but we'll continue to monitor. >> i know you will. and i'm going to also ask you to stick around, jillian, because i'm going to come back to you in just a minute. but i want to share with breaking news right now with new numbers from ice today showing more than 1400 have been arrested in the immigration crackdown as new operations are right now underway. nbc's shaquille brewster is in chicago, where ice says it has been making arrests there today. so, shaq, how are officials there dealing with the crackdown?

>> well. >> that's exactly right, alex. >> and we just. >> learned. >> in. >> the past. >> hour or so. from a social media. >> post from. >> ice that. >> what they call. >> enhanced targeted operations. >> are underway. >> in the. >> chicago area. >> and they also say that there. >> are. >> multiple federal agencies involved. you mentioned. earlier at the top of the show here that we know that tom. >> homan. >> the border czar, is in chicago. we know the. >> acting deputy. attorney general is. >> in this city. >> so government officials. >> and state government. >> officials, i should say, were asked. >> about this. >> the governor of. >> illinois was asked about the presence. of ice here, the actions that they're taking. >> we don't know. >> how many. >> arrests are. >> underway today, but listen. >> to a little bit. >> of his messaging. when he was asked about. the increased enforcement that has been signaled. and now that we know is. >> underway. >> when we're talking about. violent criminals who have been convicted and who are undocumented, we don't want them in our state. we want them out of the country. we hope they do get deported. and if that's who they're picking up, we're all

for it. >> they show. >> up with a. >> warrant. >> and we're going to hand over people who are in our prisons or in our jails who fit that description. now, what they're also doing, though, and it's quite disturbing, is they're going after people who are law. >> abiding, who are. >> holding down jobs, who have families here who may have been here for a decade or two decades. >> and they're. >> often our neighbors and our friends. >> and why are. >> we going after them? >> now? >> a doj official. >> tells nbc news that at least one. >> of the people arrested. >> today was an. unauthorized immigrant. who was convicted. of a crime. that's something that you've been signaling you saw signaled from the administration, but it was the back part. of the governor's statements. there that explained what you're seeing from the community here in chicago. i'll tell you right now, in the building behind. >> me, it's a church. >> they're having. >> a know your. >> rights seminar. >> for members of the community. >> it's a. >> workshop where they're sending out information on how to interact. legally with ice.

if folks encounter agents. >> there's full. >> on role playing. and literature that's going out to be sent to other members of the community. there's a lot of. speculation about what ice is planning here in the city of chicago. there's some fear. there are also those who are, frankly, encouraging the actions that you're seeing. >> there's a. >> lot of focus here in chicago about what's going on. and we know at least now that. >> ice says. there is. >> some operation underway here. >> okay, shaq, thank you so much for keeping an eye on all that for us from chicago. let's bring in maya ward, white house reporter at politico, and jillian frenkel is back with us. jillian, to you, because we're just getting this word in with regard to donald trump responding to columbia after they turned away two deportation flights from the u.s. after the columbian president revoked all flight diplomatic clearances. donald trump has a lot to say. what do you know about it? >> yeah, alex, we know that the white house relies on these foreign countries to accept these deportation flights. and just moments ago, as you

mentioned, i want to read. trump took to truth social to criticize the columbian government and authorities for rejecting these flights. he's now threatening emergency 25% tariffs, a travel ban and immediate visa revocations on the colombian government officials, visa sanctions, enhanced customs and border protection inspections, and more. so we'll continue to see how his relationship plays out with these foreign authorities. >> yeah, i want to add the final line there. these measures are just the beginning. we will not allow the colombian government to violate its legal obligations with regard to the acceptance and return of the criminals they forced into the united states. your response, maya, to that? >> yeah. i mean, we did a lot of reporting on, you know, what the challenges. >> trump was going to face coming. in with his. mass deportation agenda. of course. >> legal challenges, logistical challenges. but getting these countries to actually accept these deportation. >> flights. >> that is something that they're going to have to work through and negotiate with these countries. and i think just i

was thinking about today, i mean, just how overnight this week everything. >> is really. >> shifted on the immigration front. it's another, you know, example of that just within days, how, you know, trump has really come in and dramatically altered the system. and so like i said, i mean, he's going to face challenges on the legal and political front. but i think what this week has really shown us is that, you know, unlike 2017, when he came into office, you know, with these kind of quickly drawn orders, less prep, you know, trump and his allies, they've been spending the last several years really preparing for this moment, using that time to draft this more robust agenda. and we've seen that with the flood of actions, how quick they are have been to respond to some of this stuff. and of course, all of the memos from the department of homeland security and executing his agenda. >> you know, i'm thinking about all this. it's clear what donald trump wants to do, why he wants to do it. but with regard to diplomacy with any of these countries, do you see any reason, any benefit for them to

say, sure, send back these criminals from your country will take them here? i mean, i'm just trying to go through what the thought process is on the other side in these countries that are supposed to allow these criminals to land. >> yeah. i mean, it's going to depend on what those behind the scenes conversations are. i mean, that's why we're seeing him come out today. threatening increased enforcement, threatening tariffs. like those are the kind of negotiation tactics donald trump uses. and if there's enough fear and concern about the retaliation he could use, we might see some of these countries reconsider and take some of these flights. >> and again, just to repeat what jillian said, emergency 25% tariffs on all goods coming into the united states from colombia. and in one week that will raise to 50%. a few others, jillian mentioned, but also to elaborate visa sanctions on party members, family members and supporters of the colombian government. so that might even presume to extend to people who work in the

diplomatic corps here in the united states. so family members would be sent back, potentially. okay, let me move to my what we're going to see this week with rfk jr, kash patel, tulsi gabbard all facing their senate hearings. the white house is warning republicans to get in line to support them, but some still seem a bit uneasy. here's a quote one republican senator who's voted for all of trump's nominees so far, said his colleagues will be wary of national security picks who, quote, sound more like tucker carlson than a republican, adding will only give so much because this is the future of the country. it's not entertainment. television. do you have any sense how trump might respond to this? >> yeah, i mean, we saw i mean, i'll just note we saw pete hegseth overcome everything from, you know, allegations of sexual misconduct to alcohol abuse and also just concerns about his lack of experience as heading, you know, the country's largest and also one of the most important agencies. so that is a

positive sign for trump. but to your point, we have tulsi gabbard, we have rfk jr. kash patel and there have been some concerns, concerns there. so it could be a challenging week. but i don't think, you know, this isn't the last we've heard from trump. there's going to be a lot of pressure. we saw vance out there today really backing gabbard. and like you said, the white house is trying to send a message here. you know, trump even after the vote to advance hegseth, you know, he made a comment that he was very surprised. collins and murkowski, you know, voted against advancing this nomination. and so i think we're going to expect a whole lot of, you know, pressure from the white house this week for the senate to continue approving his nominees. >> last word to you, jillian. what's the expectation you're hearing? do they all get through or not? >> that remains to be seen, alex. but there is certainly immense pressure to get them all through. pete hegseth was only turned down by three senate republicans. but we know that

with rfk jr. there are questions about his past comments on vaccines. tulsi gabbard has faced criticism. >> for. >> her comments towards russia and syria, and kash patel has questions about his leadership and some past comments he made about qanon. so we'll watch those hearings closely. alex. >> okay, maya. jillian, ladies, thank you both so much. pardoned on monday, out of prison and at a donald trump event by a donald trump event by saturday. we'll explain introducing new eroxon gel, the first fda-cleared ed treatment available without a prescription. eroxon gel is clinically proven to work within ten minutes, so you and your partner can experience the heights of intimacy. new eroxon ed treatment gel. improve your protection against. >> trackers. >> malicious websites. >> and malware ridden downloads. >> get the. >> deal now.

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executive actions donald trump signed in this first week of his second presidency, this one stands out. >> first, we have a list of. >> pardons and. >> commutations relating to. >> events that occurred. >> on january 6th, 2021. >> okay. and how many people is this? i think this order. >> will apply to. >> approximately 1500 people, sir. so this is january 6th, and these are the hostages. approximately 1500 for a pardon? yes. full pardon. >> joining me now and former federal prosecutor, now senior writer with politico magazine. and his latest column suggests trump may come to regret these pardons, saying the president has once again sent a disturbing message to his supporters. if you engage in political violence on my behalf, i will protect you and crush. welcome. so if supporters believe the president

has their backs, what could possibly make president trump regret this? >> well. >> look. >> i mean. >> i. think the. >> only the mechanisms. >> for there. >> to be. >> some political. >> fallout here. >> are first. >> you know, these people are. >> out. >> in the world now. >> they're free. >> they're free to conduct themselves however they like. >> the media. >> civil society. >> actors will be following them. right. we've already seen that. they've been giving. >> some some. >> of them have been giving. >> some fairly incendiary. >> remarks in my estimation. >> i know you've mentioned this. >> stewart rhodes. >> was at a. >> campaign rally. >> it's going. >> to. >> be up to. >> the public. and would it be up to congress, i think, to. exert some political pressure. >> here to. >> express their. >> disapproval and potentially. >> up to and including. >> next year's midterms? >> yeah. let let alone enrique tarrio saying that he doesn't want to play by the rules going forward and didn't intend to. there's a 71 year old woman who joined the mob and refused trump's pardon. and here's what she told my colleague katie fan. take a listen. rather, because i was lied to and paid the price.

60 days in prison for listening to all the propaganda that was going on out there, not doing any fact checking myself. i know it's difficult because in a cult you get gaslighted so much, you got to decide for yourself, do you really want to continue listening to trump and all his lies, or find out if they are lies? i don't know about you. when somebody lied to me, it's not okay with me. what do you think of what she said? and can she inspire others to take responsibility? >> well, look, i commend her for. >> you know. >> taking her punishment and then, you know. >> being accepting responsibility for it. >> even now, she's. >> not the only person. there have been more people. >> already who have come out. >> and said they don't want these pardons now. >> they can't. >> really reject them. that's, you know, it's informative. >> that. >> they take that. >> position. but it won't. >> have. >> much effect. >> but, you know, i. >> think that, you know, a fair. >> number of people are going to say. >> look like she did. >> i made a mistake, i paid a

price and i deserve to pay that price. and on the other end of the spectrum, people are going to have. >> to. >> contrast what she has been saying. and again, i commend her for it with what people like enrique tarrio are saying, which is what you already. alluded to, basically threatening litigation and perhaps even worse. and so this wide spectrum of reactions here, i think, is sort of confounding, but also not that surprising to me. >> you know, you mentioned tarrio. he says he wants to sue. sue who? what kind of legal relief can he expect? >> yeah. look. >> this man is not a reliable or credible person. so who knows what he what he will actually do. however, if he wanted to actually try to sue someone, he could, in theory, try to sue officials in the federal government for allegedly violating his due process rights in connection with the investigation and prosecution. i have seen no reason to believe any kind of lawsuit like that would be remotely credible, but he's been emboldened. clearly, i would be emboldened, too, if i had committed a terrible crime like seditious conspiracy. and

then the president freed me. i'm not surprised he's going around making threats. >> so one columnist argues republicans are trying to look forward, but donald trump is keeping january 6th alive by forcing congress to possibly start another house committee probe. can any of these invest convince donald trump that he lost in 2020? >> it doesn't appear that way. e seems to be of the view more now than ever that he won in 2020 or that it doesn't matter. he's turned the page. i don't think we're ever going to see him admit that he actually lost that election. or the people who are really most closely tied to that, to, to his political operation. >> a new trump appointed u.s. attorney filed a motion seeking to lift the terms of release to keep oath keepers founder stewart rhodes out of d.c. rhodes, by the way, was given a vip seat at trump's event in las vegas yesterday. just so everyone knows that. what are you hearing about this filing, and do you expect the government

to now become lawyers for pardon? members of militia groups? >> you know, look what the reaction that i've heard from people about this filing is that the acting u.s. attorney, ed martin, ought to be deeply ashamed of himself. this is a ridiculous filing. these people got their sentences commuted. they are still under the supervised release conditions of the court and under the court's supervision. now, he may ultimately succeed. i don't know, in getting the terms of release changed, but i think this is a really remarkable and unfortunate effort on the part of him, mr. martin, and he seems really, really interested in unraveling this whole investigation and the whole legacy of this investigation, which i think is one of the most important efforts that the justice department has undertaken in its history. >> okay. and we're going to see you again. thank you so much. 80 years later, remembering what happened at one of world war ii's most infamous concentration

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>> so, alex, two. >> big ones here. >> one. >> they. >> are saying hamas. >> should have by now. >> provided a. >> list of the. >> conditions of. >> the remaining 26 hostages who were. >> due to come. >> out in phase. one of. >> this agreement. >> and specifically. >> israel wants to know who. >> is dead. >> and who is alive. >> they are saying hamas has not provided that list. the other big. >> violation, according to israel. >> is that you. >> remember yesterday. >> those four young female israeli soldiers. >> were released from gaza. >> butsrael. >> is saying before. >> them, hamas. >> should have released a 29 year. >> old female civilian. her name is. arbel yahud, and israel. >> is saying that. >> until there is an arrangement. >> for her. to come out of gaza, it is not. >> going. >> to allow. those tens of thousands of palestinian families to. >> return to. >> their homes in the north of the strip. >> now. >> tonight, alex. >> it is looking like there is a potential breakthrough. >> in crisis talks. >> talks to keep this.

>> cease. fire on track. >> islamic jihad, which. >> is. >> a smaller militant group that fights alongside hamas, is saying it is prepared to release arbel yahud in the coming days. so that would be not on. >> the. >> scheduled day of the. >> exchange next saturday. instead, we could see at least. >> one hostage coming out in the middle of the week, prime minister netanyahu's office saying so far there isn't a final deal, but talks are looking promising. now, in terms of those four female soldiers we heard from. their families a little earlier tonight saying for the most part they are in good condition, but they have been through an awful lot inside of gaza, and we had a chance to speak to the director of beilinson. schneider. that's the hospital where they're being treated. take a listen to what he had to say. >> all of the rooms are. prepared for a returnee. and a family member. >> as they would want. >> them in. you can see it's a brand. >> new room. nobody has. >> occupied the room yet. >> it was. >> built and kept.

>> just for this purpose. >> for the. >> returnees and. >> their families. >> this wing was specially designed. >> for this specially. >> designed. >> and since the. >> day that it was ready, it has been waiting. >> unoccupied. >> doors locked. >> with staff coming in. >> all the time to make sure that. >> everything is working. >> and clean and prepared. >> now that was in fact a senior doctor at that. >> hospital, and. >> she is in charge of one of the wings where those freed hostages are being treated. we looked around those rooms. they are brand new. they are designed to accommodate not just the freed hostages, but their families. also, it's worth saying, alex, this is going to be a long road to recovery. the first three women who were released. last weekend are still being treated in hospital, even though doctors there say that they appear to be in pretty good physical condition emotionally,

spiritually and in terms of mental health, there is a whole lot of work to do. yes. >> that is not a surprise and we wish them the very best. raf sanchez, thank you so much. right now, on the eve of the 80th anniversary of auschwitz's liberation, former prisoners are heading to that camp. they are preparing to share their stories. so the world does not forget what happened. >> i seem to remember. >> the smell. >> the foul. >> disgusting smell. >> that. >> i found out later. >> is the. >> smell of burning bodies. and i. remember going out looking at trash cans to find moldy. potato skins to eat, to survive. >> for more, we're going to head to poland, where nbc's jay gray has more on the auschwitz anniversary. so, jay, what else is in store for tomorrow? >> well, we are just. >> outside of the. >> barbed wire. >> here at auschwitz. inside today. >> not the normal tours. >> no visitors from outside. >> like you. >> would normally.

>> see here. instead, today, this hallowed ground is reserved. >> for those who escape the survivors. on the eve of the 80th. anniversary of the liberation of this death camp. they're getting some private time inside, many with their families. >> tomorrow. >> of course, the crowds will. >> gather again, including dignitaries. >> and leaders. >> from. >> around the world. >> the u.s. delegation here. will be led. >> by the secretary of. >> treasury, steven mnuchin. but we won't hear from politicians speaking tomorrow. that honor is. >> reserved again. >> for those survivors who are sharing their stories and sharing their memories of the horror inside these camps. now, many of them will tell you, i don't want to come back here. i don't enjoy coming back to auschwitz. it's not something i would choose to do, but they feel like it's a duty to be back here and share firsthand what happened inside these camps and make sure that that's never forgotten. but they. also are quick to point out that they do

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for the george bush 2004 presidential campaign. welcome to you both. matt, i'm curious, your takeaway from trump's first week and what does it mean that graham is acknowledging trump's firings of the inspector general? it's illegal, but it's okay anyway. >> well, my take. is expected. this is i mean, this is quite expected. and i think. anybody that voted for donald trump that wasn't prepared. >> for what he's. >> doing was. missing what. >> he'd been saying. >> all along. >> now. >> many people who. >> voted. for him. >> wanted the. price of eggs. >> or the. >> price of. bread or. >> the price of. >> gasoline lowered. >> that's why. >> they voted. >> for him. >> but i think donald trump, in all his speeches and all his acts and everything he said. sort of led us. >> to believe. >> that this would happen. >> and i. >> think that's. >> what he's done now. >> how long. >> does. this continue? >> it's donald trump. it probably. goes on and on and on and on. but i think. >> it's not surprising. >> to me that he's doing this.

>> it's exceedingly detrimental. >> and destructive to what we stand for as a country. >> but it's not unexpected. >> but, matthew, is trump going even further than congressional republicans would like? are they already realizing that once again, they cannot control him? >> well we'll see. >> i mean, so far, i mean, i. >> know lindsey graham says what he says. >> but they actually do. nothing to slow down donald trump. so they might seem appalled or concerned or think that wasn't a good idea. but they do nothing. they do. absolutely nothing to put any sort. >> of roadblock or hurdle. >> in his way. they just. approved a guy who's wholly unqualified and has. >> the lack of character to be the secretary. >> of defense, one of the most powerful. >> positions in the world. the republicans just approved him. lindsey graham just voted for him. >> so they may say. >> they're concerned. >> but they're as of yet. they're doing. >> nothing to slow him down. >> after trump issued the order saying that the government is only going to recognize two non-changeable sexes, the state department is suspending all passport applications looking to

change a sex marker. it is canceling issuing passports with sex markers used by nonbinary americans. it is also preventing people from renewing passports. how far can we expect this administration to go? >> i don't think that there. >> is an end point for them. >> donald trump. >> you know. >> i mentioned. >> this last week. he is really focused on. >> pushing forward. >> especially with these executive. >> orders. >> that, you know, he can just sign them and doesn't have to go through congress in any way in making it really clear to everyone that he intends to cause harm. >> and. you know. >> it's something i still. struggle with when i think about how many people voted for donald trump. i know it sounds really elementary to say that he's an evil man, but i think he is. >> and so i think. >> what we're seeing with him going after trans people, you know, with the executive order to get rid of fda employees, which seems really subjective. i'm not even sure how you do that unless you just point to people of color and women and

queer people. >> but i. >> don't think there's an end in sight. and there are so many people who voted for him because he said he was going to fix the economy, he was going to bring prices down. >> he that. >> is the furthest thing from his mind. but i think he wants all of us to see that everything that he intended on doing, he's going to do. and unless, you know, republicans in congress, the supreme court or any of the institutions that we have in place who are supposed to hold them accountable, start doing that. i don't think there is an end in sight. >> hang on. you mentioned the supreme court, shaniqua. didn't they already say, yeah, you don't have to be held accountable because you're doing this under the auspices of the presidency. so anything's going to go. >> that's what it feels like. you know, they that immunity ruling essentially gave him free reign to do whatever he wants. and you know that ruling came before he was reelected. but now he has since been reelected and he is back in the oval office. so i mean, he, i he is going to use a lot of discretion to say what falls under presidential

action. and i think he will say everything falls under presidential action, including going after his enemies. >> so matthew trump spoke about his anti dei initiatives that happened during his rally in vegas yesterday. take a listen to this. >> i signed an order that will end all of the lawless diversity, equity and inclusion nonsense all across the government and the private sector. we abolished 60 years of prejudice and hatred with the signing of one order, all approved by the united states supreme court. we're allowed to do it because we are now in a merit based world. we're a merit based country. >> so, matt, when you when he's talking about 60 years, one of the orders that he revoked was the equal opportunity employment act from 1965. can he really convince people that was prejudice? >> well. >> i the reason why i. >> laughed is for donald. >> trump to say we're in a merit

based society. >> at the same. >> time he got elected president of the united states. >> is so astoundingly ironic. >> because i think of all the candidates that have ever run, he's the least merit filled. >> person that's ever run for president. and in. >> my. >> lifetime in this. >> i mean, i. think this. >> is donald trump. and what what i think is clear in the course of this is donald trump isn't concerned about any. >> particular issue. >> he's basically doing the bidding of people that feel. like they want to return to a culture in the united states where white people held white people, white christians, white males held 95% of the levers of power. and for him. >> to say the. >> last 50 or 60 years. >> of prejudice. >> what he means is. that white people. >> now, today. >> white christian males now only hold 80% of the levers of power. and that's somehow a problem when white male christians represent about 27% of the country and they hold 80% of the power, that's somehow a prejudicial situation. so your listeners and the. people that

are watching here should readily understand what he means by prejudice and, and what his idea of that is, is i want white christian males to be back in power in a full way. >> do you want to comment on this? >> yeah, i think that's spot on. you know the thing, there's lots of things that, you know, make me afraid of donald trump. but the thing that annoys me the most is that he implies that he got to where he is for merit. you know, he was born wealthy, he had a lot of money, and nothing he's earned has been by merit. and he just wants to go back to this world where he thinks things were better when white men were in charge. you know, i think he thinks that women are able to talk too much. they have too much control. you think about some of the women who have been in powerful positions, who have tried to hold him accountable, like letitia james, fani willis, like he does not like that, and he's gone after them repeatedly. and

so, you know, he's going to keep pushing for this. and the sad thing is, when it comes to race, i don't think donald trump is the worst person around him. you have people like stephen miller, you have people like steve bannon who really want this country to go back to what it was pre 1960s, and we haven't even made all the progress we need to make, but they are just gunning for us to get back to a time where they don't have to be held accountable for anything. and women and people of color and anyone who's different from them just is a second class citizen. >> last word to you, matthew. do you think donald trump's can have trouble in 2026 if the democrats retake the house? >> yeah, i mean, i don't think his plan. >> all. >> along was to pass any legislation because i don't think it was possible because i think. >> there's enough. >> republicans who would stop anything crazy from happening. but as any normal midterm, he's likely. >> to. >> lose and then he's going to be under serious investigation. but again, i think donald trump is not going to be held accountable. he can't run again. so donald trump is going to keep

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being sworn into office. sales of the tokens made the president a crypto billionaire nearly overnight, at least on paper. on thursday, trump signed an executive order supporting the growth of the cryptocurrency industry. trump's foray into the crypto business, drawing fierce criticism from democrats, who are calling it a clear violation of conflict of interest rules and a blatant attempt by the president to cash in on the office. joining me now is executive director of the revolving door project, jeff hauser. jeff, big, welcome to you. so taking a look at the trading value of this trump crypto coin, it's plunged since its launch over a week ago, but the trump organization is estimated to have made nearly 60 million already, that being in trading fees that happened just on the first day. and they stand to make a lot more. and in a new article on msnbc.com, you write that if trump wants to make much more money during his second

term, he could have hardly come up upon a better plan than crypto. so explain for the viewers why crypto is an easy opportunity for trump to profit off the presidency. >> sure, crypto. >> isn't very real, right? it is. essentially just lines of code. on a blockchain so commonly available on the internet that people can view. >> so when you're. >> selling a coin, all you're doing is selling individual bits of code. >> to. >> distinct people. >> there's no. >> cost essentially, or almost no cost to doing so. so anything that. >> you get for. selling this. >> is essentially. pure profit. >> if you think. >> about the trump. >> hotel and the concerns that. possibly people bought blocks of. >> hotel rooms in order to benefit. you had. >> to have a. >> physical hotel. you had to maintain the rooms. >> you had. >> to pay. >> property taxes. there were real costs. this is pure profit. and you can do so in a way that

you know. who made the purchase. >> or at least. >> you can verify in advance. >> like if. >> you buy this specific code and go into this wallet. >> it is from me. but you. >> also have pure deniability of any potential quid pro quo. so there's really no downside. there are no costs, there's only upside, and there's very little chance for any accountability. if there should be any misconduct. >> so a plan promoting growth for the cryptocurrency industry. that was one of a flurry of executive orders trump signed this week. and in your article you also warn because lining his own pockets, besides doing that, trump is setting crypto rules and it creates new opportunities for corruption in the administration. can you explain how that would happen? >> sure. >> so right. >> now cryptocurrency is one of the best tools. if i am a money launderer, or if i am an organization that is subject to sanctions. so if i'm importing fentanyl into this country, it is known that. >> crypto is. >> one of the optimal ways to.

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