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deodorant to try and start controlling your body odor better everywhere. >> good evening. >> breaking news tonight. on eamon trump escalates his standoff with colombia and
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mexico over. >> deportation flights. >> in just a moment. >> i'll. >> speak to two state attorneys. >> general suing. >> trump over his attempt to end birthright citizenship. and trump and his allies may have run on america first. but we want to talk about. >> one glaring. >> exception amaimon mohiuddin. >> let's do it. >> we come on the air tonight. >> with some. breaking news. donald trump's crackdown on migrants and american cities has begun. and just this afternoon. >> it nearly. >> started a new trade war. the justice department announced today that it has launched a multi-agency operation in. chicago to round up migrants for deportation. u.s. immigration and customs enforcement. or ice. >> as it is known, confirmed that it had begun. >> quote, enhanced targeted. operations along with federal. >> partners including. >> the fbi, atf, and customs and border patrol. nbc news has obtained. >> this. >> photo of acting attorney, deputy attorney. >> general amal bovi. >> and border czar. >> tom. >> homan. >> both in chicago today.
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>> observing those. >> operations. >> my colleague. >> gabe gutierrez spoke with homan. >> just earlier. >> look, we want to get as many criminals as possible, so there's no number on it. they're out there looking for every public safety threat they can find. i think this office had several hundred on the list for today. so we'll see how it comes out. but i don't put a number on it. the rest is many public safety threats as you can. so you're saying there's no no quota according to you. i don't have a follow my instructions to them. arrest as many as you can that are public safety threats. if there was somebody else illegally here, they're coming too. >> it is not just chicago that is seeing federal government agents rounding. >> people up to. >> be deported. this is footage from an ice crackdown. >> in colorado earlier today. and this. >> scene is taking place in. >> cities across. >> the country with ice touting these arrest numbers. >> which are. >> sure to rise after this weekend's raids. the trump administration was hoping to. >> simply put. >> these people. >> on. >> a plane and send them to colombia. >> or mexico. >> or. >> other latin.
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>> american countries. >> but that plan ran into some complications. today, both the presidents of. >> colombia and. >> the president of. >> mexico both. >> denied entry. >> of these flights. >> these repatriation flights. >> into their territory. colombian president gustavo. petro posted on x saying a migrant is not a criminal and should. be treated. >> with the dignity. >> a. >> human being deserves. >> he added i cannot force migrants to remain in a. country that does not want them, but if. >> that. >> country returns. >> them. >> it must be with dignity and respect for both them. and our nation. that may sound reasonable to some, right? >> dignity. >> respect. but not in donald trump's america, where vengeance and retribution. >> are our. >> top priorities. >> trump responded by posting on his social media platform that he. would impose. sweeping retaliatory measures against colombia, including tariffs. and visa sanctions on members of the colombian government. >> this would. >> include an emergency 25% tariffs on all. >> goods coming. >> into the united. >> states. >> and in one week the tariffs.
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>> would be. >> raised to 50%. congresswoman alexandria ocasio-cortez took to x with a pointed. >> reminder for all. >> of us. >> she wrote. >> quote. >> to punish. >> colombia, trump is about to make every american pay even more. >> for coffee. >> remember. >> we pay the tariffs, not colombia. trump is all about. making inflation worse for working class americans, not better. and of course, it's not just coffee. as i mentioned, according to the us department of agriculture, from 2018 to 2022, colombia provided about 37% of us cut flower and nursery stock value. hours later, colombia's president retaliated, posting on x that he ordered the foreign trade minister to raise tariffs on us imports by 25%. but he later backed down, announcing that he would send his presidential plane to honduras to pick up migrants from us flights. now that is one international crisis averted for now. but if i know anything about donald trump, it is that he is ruled by his own ego and he leads with bluster. and soon we could find ourselves fighting
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a losing battle with everyday americans picking up the tab. joining me now are new jersey attorney general matthew platkin and nevada attorney general aaron ford. they are among the 22 democratic attorneys currently suing donald trump over his attempt to end birthright citizenship. gentlemen, it's great to have both of you with us. aj platkin, i'll start with you if i can. your reaction to this back and forth between trump and the president of colombia. >> well, i'm not sure. >> my. >> takeaway from the. >> november elections. >> was. >> that people want. >> to pay more for. >> coffee and flowers. >> as we head into valentine's day. but look, we saw in the first trump administration that president trump likes to govern by social media. he likes to govern by crisis. >> as attorneys general. >> we are focused on whether what the president is doing is consistent with the laws and the constitution. >> of. >> this nation, and whether it hurts our residents. >> and when. >> he violates the law and. >> violates the constitution. as he did. >> on monday night when. >> he signed.
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>> a patently. >> unconstitutional order for the first time in. >> 157 years. >> to. right birthright citizenship. >> out of the united. >> states constitution, we are prepared. >> to. >> stand up. >> and take. >> him to court. >> let's talk about that, if i can, attorney. >> general. >> ford. >> you know. >> given the. >> nature of. >> this supreme. >> court that we have. >> in the. united states. >> i know everybody has said. >> this is a. >> clear cut case. the constitution is very clear on birthright citizenship. but people also thought that about presidential immunity before that decision came out. how confident. >> are. >> you in the legal. >> cases that the attorneys general. are presenting. to defend birthright citizenship in this country? >> well, again. >> thanks. >> for having us on. and it's always great to be with my colleague, mr. clark and who, by the way, hit the nail on the head. people in my state are asking about the rise in the cost of eggs. and i guess now they'll be asking about coffee and flowers as well. >> but to your. >> question about birthright
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citizenship and the and the courts, to be sure, as i've indicated before, we are aware of the realistic nature of the u.s. supreme court, but we remain consistent in our application of the law, which is to file lawsuits when donald trump violates it. and that is what he has done here in attempting to, as a said right out, birthright citizenship from our constitution, one federal court has already indicated in a matter of hours that it was a violation of the law, a blatant constitutional violation. and that was a reagan appointee, incidentally, who ruled against him in the washington court and the washington case. and mr. platkin and i and several others have a case pending in massachusetts. now, we are confident that we're going to prevail there as well, because, again, we agree that this is a blatantly unconstitutional act or executive order that mr. trump has put out, and we're going to be there to hold him accountable. >> attorney general platkin. >> you know, i believe there's about. >> 150,000 attorney general in washington said that trump's order would deny citizenship to about 150,000 newborn children each year. how devastating.
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would that be for families and communities across the united states? what kind. >> of chaos. >> would that create in our. in our communities, in our society? >> well, it. >> would create. >> an. >> unprecedented situation. birthright citizenship has been part. of the fabric of this nation for centuries. it has been in the constitution, as i said, for 157 years, the only period. in u.s. history when we did not recognize birthright citizenship as a fact of life. here was the civil war. >> and i think it's notable. >> that the order. just says that children born in. >> the united states. >> to undocumented residents are not american citizens. >> it doesn't say what. >> they are. remember, these are kids born here. >> they have no ties. >> to any other country. and so not only would it. >> hurt. >> them. >> but for states like ours, that and. >> the coalition that attorney general ford and i. >> are helping lead, we would be. >> harmed because. these kids who would. >> not. >> have american citizenship, they wouldn't be entitled to. >> the same. educational and.
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health care. >> benefits that their american friends would be. >> and so. >> states would be left having to pick up the tab. >> and so we make that. >> case in our briefs. >> but make. >> no. >> mistake, this. >> is. >> about the rule of law. >> in america. >> can the president of the united states rewrite the constitution with a stroke of. >> a pen? >> and what. >> we are saying, and. >> what you're seeing in the federal courts is the answer to that question. >> is no. >> do you think. >> attorney general ford. >> do you think. >> trump is motivated, you know, part of his america first agenda? >> or do you. >> think, as the attorney general platkin was saying, that there is an attempt to kind of rewrite the constitution, and perhaps this is the opening salvo of other attempts to change fundamental parts. >> of our. >> society and how we govern and exist. >> well, i'm loathe to ascribe motivations to the president, but i must say to you that the latter seems to be more of the case. the truth of the matter is, this birthright citizenship case is not something that should have been done. it is again, again, a blatant
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violation of the state of the u.s. constitution. you know, the last time that we did not recognize birthright citizenship was in a lawsuit related to african descendants attempting to be named citizens of our country. the supreme court rejected that in the 1850s. but we passed the 14th amendment for a purpose and for a reason. and if you are born here in this country, you are bestowed the rights of an american citizen. that that fact has been reiterated and reconfirmed by the u.s. supreme court on a couple of occasions, and we're going to continue to rely upon that for proof positive of the fact that anyone born here in this country is an american citizen. >> do you. believe attorney general platkin the case that is being put forward by the trump administration to end birthright citizenship is grounded in any legal interpretation? i mean, it's hard to imagine how they're kind of manipulating the language of the amendment or the constitution to say it doesn't
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necessarily include. >> children who are. >> born to parents in this country, who are not naturalized, or some who may even have visas but are not. here permanently. >> yeah. >> i had to chuckle a little bit. >> because it's one of the most laughable arguments i've ever seen made in court. in fact, the federal judge in washington who. >> was, by the. >> way, an appointee of president ronald reagan, said it was the worst argument he's seen in the 40 years he's been on the bench. >> and, you know. >> the administration. >> is tying itself in knots because on the one hand. >> and you talked about this in your. >> opening, they're trying to conduct an unprecedented removal of mass. removal of undocumented immigrants. so clearly they think these. people are subject to the jurisdiction of the united states. >> and on. >> the other hand, they're saying. >> these same. >> people, their children are not subject to the laws of this nation. so under their argument. an undocumented. >> resident who they're. >> trying to deport could have a child that grows up to kill somebody in the united states. >> and yet. >> we as attorneys general or
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any other law enforcement. >> couldn't hold that person accountable. >> obviously. >> that's ridiculous. >> which is why. >> every court that has looked at this for the last century. >> and a. >> half has rejected the exact argument that the court that the administration is putting forth. >> attorney general ford in. >> their arguments. >> this. week before this federal. >> judge. >> the justice. >> department lawyer. >> said that trump's. >> birthright citizenship. >> in order. >> is an integral part of his efforts to address this country's immigration plan. if this case were to go all the. way up to the. >> supreme court. >> do d.o.j. lawyers have any legal argument here? i mean, would it even matter given the conservative leaning majority on this bench? >> well, again, you know, we are. familiar with the fact that the united states supreme court leans more conservative these days, but we remain confident in the rule of law here. we remain confident in our judicial system, and we believe that the jurisprudence coming out of the supreme court over the course of the last century and a half is going to withstand scrutiny
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here, and we are going to prevail on this case. it is blatantly unconstitutional to try to end birthright citizenship via an executive order. only a constitutional amendment can do that, and i can virtually guarantee that there is no appetite in the united states of america to entertain that sort of extreme approach to birthright citizenship in this nation. and so, at the end of the day, i do believe even if it gets to the u.s. supreme court, we are going to prevail. in fact, wherever this case was brought or could have been brought, i believe that a fair minded jurist would rule in the way that washington did, and that's to find this unconstitutional. >> there is. another aspect. attorney general platkin, of the justice department's argument. it states, basically that. states have no standing to sue and, quote, no legally cognizable interest in the recognition of citizenship by the federal government of a particular individual. again, it may seem like a technical argument that they're trying to counterpunch, if you will,
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against the lawsuits. but what do you make of that legal argument. >> when you can't win on the merits, you try. >> to win on technicalities. >> and say, we can't bring. >> the case, but come. >> on, we laid out. >> very clearly. >> and. >> i talked about some of these earlier, the harms that would flow to states, should this unconstitutional order. >> be able to. >> go forward. >> but this case, as i said, is. bigger than even. >> the very. >> significant issue. >> of birthright citizenship. >> it's about. whether a. >> president is. >> constrained by. >> our. >> nation's foundational document and. whether he can act like. >> a. >> king. >> or whether the rule of law will prevail. and i think this is the first test that you're. >> seeing, and you're seeing. >> attorneys general. >> stand up. remember, we filed. >> our lawsuit. >> less than 18 hours after. >> that order was signed. >> and so. >> we are prepared. we are prepared. to take this administration to court. when they violate. >> the law. >> when they heard our residents. >> and that's. >> exactly what happened here. >> and that's. >> exactly what we're going to continue to do. >> all right. attorney general. >> matt platkin and aaron ford,
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inauguration, among them mark zuckerberg, jeff bezos and, of course, elon musk. musk, who will reportedly be getting his own office space in the white house, is also leading a project called doge, or the department of government efficiency. and while we. >> have. >> yet to see any efficiency from this newly established effort, we have seen some controversy. doge was sued minutes after trump's inauguration, and vivek ramaswamy has already left to run for governor of ohio, giving musk full command over the cost cutting project. meanwhile, the congresswoman who will lead the doge subcommittee in the house republican majority, marjorie taylor greene, does not exactly have a reputation of being particularly efficient or even effective herself. with me now is congresswoman melanie stansbury of new mexico, who will serve as the top democrat on that doge subcommittee. congresswoman, it's great to have you back on the show. tell us a little bit about how your experience has been in this doge subcommittee. >> yeah, well. >> we haven't. >> actually started meeting yet,
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and we're. >> not entirely. >> sure what the republicans are up to. but if trump's actions in the first week in office are any indication, we think he's up to no good. it's very obvious that on day one, he signed a slew of executive orders attacking the federal workforce. the schedule f eo. he's attacked dei initiatives and in fact, doubled down over the last couple of days, basically firing anyone who works on diversity initiatives. and we know they're going after diversity in the military. and pete hegseth was unfortunately approved on friday night to lead dod. and they're going to go after our military and our veterans as well. so we're very concerned about what this doge subcommittee is going to be. but i want to say to everyone listening out there that we are ready to go to bat for the american people. if this is actually about making the government more efficient and, you know, finding fraud, abuse and waste across the federal government. i'm a former federal
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omb employee, and we're ready to do that. and democrats are ready to get to work on behalf of the american people. but if this is going to be a political clown show, like so much of what the trump administration has already shown, then we're ready to fight back. >> speaking of a political clown show, i mean, as you mentioned, also, you know, the omb, technically their job is to kind of reduce government waste and make it more efficient. so you said this is potentially a political clown show. why do you think they created this doge subcommittee? >> well. >> we're not entirely sure. >> i mean, what we know is that republicans are telling us that they're planning to use savings from cutting federal jobs, consolidating agencies to pay for tax breaks, which we know from 2017 are to help their billionaire friends. and we've already seen over the last few days, most of trump's executive orders are really designed to provide kickbacks, kickbacks to his corporate and billionaire friends. but we think that the
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purpose of this subcommittee is to provide cover for the executive actions that they're doing. if you look at, for example, the slashing of diversity initiatives across the federal government and the military, that was the first thing that they did after the election was hold a hearing on that in the oversight committee. and this doge subcommittee is being organized under oversight. so, you know, it's hard to say what exactly they have planned. i think that it's indicative that they've put marjorie taylor greene in charge of it. but i will note that they have put a lot of serious members on both the republican and democratic side of the aisle on this subcommittee. and if it is seriously about addressing, you know, government waste, fraud and abuse, then we're ready to go. but, you know, donald trump on friday night in a late night purge not unlike what happened under richard nixon, fired all of the inspector generals across 12 agencies. these are the entities that are supposed to root out fraud, waste, fraud and
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abuse. so if that's what they're actually doing, then certainly nothing trump has done in his first six days in office indicates that that's what they're actually planning to do. >> yeah. >> it certainly does not give us confidence in that being the objective. let me before we go, congresswoman, get your thoughts. on what has transpired across the country, in some cities across the country, these immigration raids and deportation flights, and now this kind of escalating diplomatic row between colombia and the united states. first, what concerns are you hearing from constituents, and what do you think democrats can do to push back on these hardline policies? >> well, it's very clear that donald trump promised that he would initiate mass deportations during his presidential campaign, and he's trying to execute political theater to show that he's doing that. and his latest stunt is trying to use military aircraft to deport colombian asylees. and the
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colombian leadership has said, you know, we're not going to participate in your political showmanship, but if there's a legitimate reason to return, folks, we're happy to provide transportation. it's very clear that donald trump is doing this for political reasons. and what i can tell you is that in new mexico, which is a border state, our state was part of mexico until 1848, and the people of new mexico largely have immigrant family members, people who have mixed status. and people are very frightened by what donald trump is threatening, what these ios are threatening to do. and i think that the american people who are not connected to the immigrant community need to understand that this is really about frightening people in the immigrant community and trying to discourage people from coming here and seeking the american dream. but if you came to this country, if your ancestors came to this country in search of the
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american dream, your family comes from the same heritage as the immigrants who are coming here today. and we are a country of immigrants. we welcome immigrants to this country, and we're going to fight back against these deplorable efforts to frighten the immigrant community and to violate the constitution and the law, to undermine the rights and fundamental freedoms of this country. >> all right. congresswoman melanie stansbury, thank you so much. greatly appreciate it, as always. >> of course. >> next up, trump kicks off his super charged retribution tour during his first week in the during his first week in the white ho my mental health was better. but uncontrollable movements called td,tardive dyskinesia, started disrupting my day. td felt embarrassing. i felt like disconnecting. i asked my doctor about treating my td, and learned about ingrezza. ♪ ingrezza ♪ ingrezza is clinically proven to treat td, quickly reducing td by greater than five times at two weeks. number-one prescribed ingrezza has dosing that's always one pill, once daily.
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>> that was former chairman of the january 6th select committee, bennie thompson, sounding the alarm to my colleague ali velshi on president trump's retribution tour. trump has stripped security details for former national security adviser turned trump critic john bolton, as well as former nih director anthony fauci, who became a target in maga world for contradicting trump's covid lies. and in a friday night massacre, the president fired 18 inspectors general without even notifying congress, a move that democrats and even some republicans say violated the law. and now nbc news is reporting the white house has warned republican senators to get on board with trump's nominees or suffer the consequences. after trump's controversial pick for defense secretary pete hegseth barely won senate approval. joining me now is fred trump the third. he is the nephew of president trump and author of the book all in the family the trumps and how we got this way. fred, it's great to see you again. good to see you. you and i spoke a few days before the election, and in
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fact, i want to play for you something you said on the show about the fears that you had if donald trump were to win. watch. >> i think what. >> scares a. >> lot. >> of people there, there are no to use the word. in vogue guidelines, guardrails anymore. just think of the people that he is now surrounding. himself with. there's no general kelly. there's no general. >> mattis. there's stephen miller and. tom homan and. >> rudy giuliani coming back. that should scare anybody. >> and so. now we're. >> a. >> week into trump's term. we're getting a. you know, preview. >> maybe a glimpse of what will continue to happen with this retribution tour. but, you know, what do you think of what we've seen so far in this first week? >> it really is no. surprise to me and shouldn't be a surprise to anybody. we've we've seen this literally since the day he left the white house. he will go after anybody who is not for him
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or jumps on board. and what was said there about his cabinet picks? yeah. i mean they they will go out there and primary anyone who, who goes against his wishes. >> you know. trump has always been a petty man. a lot of people have described him that. but i'm curious to get your thoughts. what other rationale could be applied for why he. has stripped the security detail of people whose lives are genuinely in danger people like john bolton, mike pompeo, anthony fauci. >> it really comes back to the same thing in my mind. and the interesting one to me is fauci. i don't remember fauci coming out there and saying he did a terrible i mean, he is a very thoughtful gentleman. >> yeah. >> bolton may be a different story. he's out there. but fauci did a great job, has done great work for this country. but it
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didn't work out for donald. you know, some of the blame got assigned to donald, which i believe rightfully so. fauci may have even taken the spotlight away from donald for a while. i mean, he was out there in front every day. >> yeah. >> let me in fact, actually, i was going to say i was going to share this with you. i mean, the danger. here for both bolton and fauci in 2022, the doj charged a member of iran's islamic revolutionary guard corps in a plot to kill bolton, likely in retaliation for the trump administration's killing of an iranian general back in 2022. as you were saying, fauci has been subject to death threats, part of the maga conspiracy world. but, you know, let me play for you what he said about this watch about fauci. take a listen. >> would you feel partially responsible if something. >> were. >> to happen. >> to, say. >> doctor fauci. >> or john bolton? >> no. you know, they all made a lot of money. they could hire their own security, too. >> the question is about their safety and security. as people who worked in government and served american interests,
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including somebody like bolton, who, you know, worked for a trump administration that killed an iranian general, and now he's basically throwing them out there on their own, saying, hey, you should take care of your own security. >> yeah. and i'll go back to fauci. i mean, here's a here's a man who dedicated his life's work to saving american lives. okay. how many? i can't tell you. thousands. hundreds of thousands. millions? yeah, but he did that. he did it under the radar. up until covid. but his. his reputation in the circles i travel is pretty. pretty. he's an astute, generous with his time and his his career helping this country. >> do you think he went after these people because they are high profile and sends a chilling message to others? i mean, do you think this is going to continue with people that are lower names, but people he he will still want to go after? look, there's no end to his. >> there is no end. john bolton is on tv all.
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>> the time, right? >> okay. >> and that probably drives. >> him crazy. >> it may. >> but john bolton. >> is out. >> there all the time. fauci. i don't understand because he's. >> yeah, he's. >> gone off. maybe he. wrote a book. okay, great. >> he's out of the public limelight. he's not talking about you. >> yeah. >> he's not. so why? that has to get stripped, i don't understand. who knows if fauci's going to be needed in the future? >> yeah. yeah. >> when you think about the republicans in congress right now, do you i mean, you kind of see them all falling by the wayside to back donald trump, even with the pardons of january 6th? no spines among any of them. now you have somebody like elon musk with like, billions of dollars willing, with the press of a button to primary and challenge any of these republicans who may dare to stand up to donald trump. so you have this, like, not only this public fear that is being whipped up by donald trump. you now have a financial backer who's willing to take those words of donald trump and challenge and browbeat anyone who challenges. >> donald trump. >> and i'm just waiting for
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someone in congress to say it's worth it to keep my principles primary away. >> it's pretty. >> pretty wishful thinking. >> on. >> your part. >> it's i. >> know. >> it's. >> sunday night. is it that great to be in congress? i mean, when someone says they want to stay in congress and give up their their principles, well, maybe they're in it for the money also. >> what is it? what is the grip that he has? how do you explain this ability to have a grip over these types of people? i mean, i mean, again, you're talking about politicians who in their own right are powerful. you know, they should be some of these senate members that have been there for years, they have their own followings and their constituencies. and yet donald trump has come in and managed to completely overpower them. >> overpower is the word. yeah, he he came out in 2015 as the populist. people bought into it. people love it. and i have to say as a democrat, i am waiting for the democratic response to come out, you know, get some.
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>> spine. >> get some spine and stop the wine. let's we need a leader, first of all, the democratic party. it's just hodgepodge right now. and i know we'll wait until the next election cycle. that's too late. somebody's got to get in there and start fighting back, if you will. >> i got to ask you about your own fears and your concerns. if this retribution tour continues. you're doing interviews. you're critical. you have been critical of your uncle. how worried are you about retribution? >> i'm. >> i'm not worried about retribution from donald. and, you know, when we. the book came out, we were concerned mostly for our our kids. right. william, as you know, who has disabilities, is living in a group home for the past couple of years. so he's in a safe zone. he's in a safe zone. and let me just please add this. with the immigration issue coming up as we all knew it would. anybody who thinks it wasn't going to be front and
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center was mistaken. obviously, william is cared for, and the tens of millions of the disabled and the complex disabled and the elderly are taking care of people every day of their lives by a vast majority of people that come from other countries. do i want those people living in fear, perhaps for no reason whatsoever other than this, this cause of his and his followers, to go after anybody who may not look like them. i think it's reprehensible and can harm people's lives like william's. like again, the tens of millions of disabled people in this country. it's got to stop. i don't know how, but the democratic party has got to get get its act together and start fighting. >> yeah. i don't think we. >> still comprehend the cost, our societal cost of what our country would look like if we
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ignored by the trump administration this week. days into the cease fire, 11 american doctors and nurses told that the israeli government is blocking them from leaving gaza and returning home to the united states. these doctors entered gaza on january 9th and were set to leave this past wednesday during a cease fire, but their exit was now denied due to some unspecified incident. the agency that coordinates humanitarian aid into gaza did not provide any useful information on the reasoning, and the state department. the white house did not respond to the request for a comment. and out of the 11 senators that they reached out to, only one responded with a vague response. again, basically, silence about americans at risk abroad. in this case, it's pretty clear why the trump administration should say or do something. one of the trapped doctors said that many in the group are needed to provide critical care back here at home to u.s. citizens. trump keeps bragging about his so-called america first
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administration, trying hard to distance himself from the former president, joe biden. but we've already seen how his immigration policies will make life harder for american citizens. now he's pulling a move straight out of biden's playbook, ignoring americans in danger when it comes to palestinians or the palestinian cause. under biden's watch, multiple americans in gaza and the occupied west bank were killed. turkish american activist aisha nur, e.g, canadian american aid worker jacob jacob flickinger, two palestinian american minors, taufik isaac and mohammad kudr. and even before the war, palestinian american journalist shireen abu akleh. before biden left office, he even ignored the many americans still trapped in gaza at this very moment. this is salsabil al-hilu and her three young children, all american citizens trapped in gaza since october 7th. months later, in march 2024, her name finally appeared on the online crossing list. but there was a catch only two of her children
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americans that are currently trapped in gaza, including salsabil al hilal and her three children. when sybil's teenage son was not cleared to evacuate, the family made the difficult choice of staying behind with him. now, her son is suffering from life changing injuries due to israeli airstrikes, and the health of all of her children has been deteriorating due to the horrible conditions they and millions are facing in gaza. salsabil is one of nine american plaintiffs suing the u.s. government for leaving them trapped in a war zone. she joins me now on the show along with lawyer mariah carey. it's great to have both of you with us, sir. thank you so much for joining us. just tell us a little bit about where you are right now and how you and your family are doing. >> hi, ayman, thank you for having me in your in your show. and now i am in the north of
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gaza, in a small city. the us embassy told me over a year ago that me and my three children were approved to leave gaza to exit gaza, but when the final list was published, i learned that only me and two of my children have the permission to leave, and the israeli didn't give permission to my teenage son. can you imagine me asking a mother to make this choice? to choose between leaving one child behind or keeping everyone together in a war zone? so that's what happened. at least we are now all together as a family. and this shows that the american government forced me to
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do. >> maria. >> i constantly. >> maria, let me ask you, you're representing multiple americans in similar situations to ever since the lawsuit was filed, has there been any communication whatsoever from the us government on your part? and is it on their radar on why do you think these americans have not gotten attention? >> yeah, your. >> viewers have just. >> had a chance. >> to. hear from salsabil. but she's not my only american. >> client in gaza. the lawsuit. >> that we filed consists of a group of citizens, green card holders and their children, their spouses and their parents, all who have been approved by the state department, biden's state department to leave, but have been unable to do so for 478 days now. so when we talk about the biden administration being complicit in this genocide, we must also speak honestly about the complicity that it had in the dehumanization of palestinian american life, because if consistently made these americans feel as if they're not
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american enough. and one of the ways the biden state department did this was by refusing to evacuate americans in gaza, the same way that it quickly got israeli americans out immediately after october 7th. so the government is very much on notice. to answer your question, the state department knows the identities, the whereabouts, everything about my clients. and for over a year, the state department has been telling these people that it does not control who enters and exits gaza. that's laughably untrue, right? because by now we all have seen just how much leverage and control the us government has over this war and what the biden administration could and should have done is condition sending the weapons and billions in aid in exchange for the safe evacuation of u.s. citizens. so that's that's the gist of the lawsuit that we've we're pointing out that you have created a class of citizens that you're treating in a different
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way from another class of citizens that are in the exact same war zone. >> is the united states legally responsible for american citizens in foreign countries that it has no control over the sovereignty of? like it doesn't america doesn't have control over the border with egypt and gaza, and certainly doesn't have control over the border between israel and gaza. are you saying that at some point, even when the american military was trying to build that pier, it could have offered an evacuation route? or you're just saying they have to find a way to get these people out. >> look. the supreme court has consistently upheld that the constitution requires everyone to be treated equally under the law. so every first year, law student is going to learn about the equal protection clause that says you cannot treat someone differently because of their race or their national origin. and that's precisely what the government has done here, right? by giving priority to evacuation of israeli americans, but failing to do the same for palestinian americans trapped in the exact same war zone. you're
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discriminating and creating a class of preferred citizens, and we're pushing back against that. and we believe the judge will agree with us based on all of the evidence we provided of the myriad ways in which the us government has control over the borders. so one of the things we've pointed out is that in a us led operation back in december of 2023, we had the mother of a us army officer evacuated, and the us government worked with israeli cogat to make sure that that woman was brought out to safety, which was the right thing to do. and since rafah border closed on may 7th, we've had countless examples of the state department, biden's state department working with israeli counterparts to get medical evacuation cases out. so these children who need surgery, who are brought to the us for life saving surgery, and in most cases, these children are not even american. >> so go ahead. >> and i just wanted to make a point here about the 11 american
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doctors that are stuck in gaza. this is the second time we've seen the administration failed to bring american doctors safely out, and that the israelis are blocking these doctors from leaving is for the same reason that the israelis have blocked foreign journalists from entering into gaza, the same reason they've killed off every journalist and doctor they can find inside gaza. because when you have these neutral, apolitical people going to do their job, they come out as primary witnesses to israeli war crimes. and again, the law is in support of bringing these american doctors out. >> i really appreciate we're going to keep our eyes on this story and bring our viewers any developments as they may emerge. our best to you and to your family. and maria, thank you so much for sharing the story with us. greatly appreciate it. >> thank you. >> a new hour of amen starts after this quick break. >> i feel like. new sunglasses. >> like a. >> brand new. pair of jeans.
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