i'm willing to work for nothing. i did it first for a long time. i'll do children's theater. i'll do anything. i have to work. i love it. >> so i know this segment is about your broadway show, beckett briefs, which everyone should see, which is playing at the irish repertory theater through march 9th. but i think this is a segment about positivity, too, and just joy, because that's the your love of what you do. yeah, just is keeps you going forever. >> can i mention the broadway show i'll be doing next year at the end of this year? >> what are you doing? >> kristin chenoweth and i are going to be on broadway singing and dancing. >> stop! >> yeah, it's going to be the queen of versailles. we did it in boston. big success. it'll be happening at the end of the year. >> i'll have what he's having. >> have him come back and wear the same sweater. >> will you bring her and definitely wear the sweater. if you don't wear the sweater, i'll be very upset. that does it for

us this morning. f murray abraham, thank you so much. thank you. this morning, ana cabrera. thank you. the coverage right now. right now on ana cabrera reports president trump's immigration crackdown. colombia now. >> agreeing to accept u.s. >> deportation flights. >> after a. >> weekend clash with the white house that. >> included threats. >> of a. >> trade war. >> plus. >> ice agents spotted. >> in major. >> cities across the country. what we. know about. >> the. >> stepped up. >> immigration enforcement and who is really being detained. >> also ahead. >> president trump's friday night purge. >> of. >> 18 inspectors general. >> was it. >> against the law? one of those fired igs will join us live. >> for his. >> first tv interview. and then the. >> return to. >> northern gaza. thousands of palestinians beginning the long journey home on foot. >> carrying whatever they own. as president. >> trump says. >> he wants. >> to, quote. >> clean. >> out gaza.

>> good monday morning. >> it's ten. >> eastern, 7 a.m. pacific. >> i'm ana. >> cabrera. >> reporting from. >> new york. we begin with. >> ramped up. >> immigration enforcement. >> now underway. >> in major cities. across the country. >> sunday marked. >> the. >> largest roundup. >> since president trump took. >> office with. >> 956 arrests, according to ice operations in chicago, l.a. >> phoenix. atlanta often involving. >> other agencies. >> like the dea. >> the administration. >> says migrants with criminal. >> backgrounds are. >> the primary. >> targets, but. >> hasn't provided a full. >> breakdown of the arrests. >> and the washington post, citing four people. >> with. >> knowledge of ice. >> briefings, reports. >> that trump. >> officials have given ice daily arrest quotas no lower, no lower than 1200. in response to all this, protesters took to the streets in dallas. yesterday and colombia's. >> president refused. >> deportation flights. >> but after president trump suspended diplomatic visas. >> and. >> threatened tariffs. >> the colombian government

reversed course. >> for more now, i want to. >> bring in nbc's. >> shaquille brewster in chicago, staff writer for the atlantic, ashley. parker and. >> former immigration. >> and customs. >> enforcement chief of. >> staff jason hauser. >> shaq, what kind of activity is. >> expected today and. >> what do we know about who has been arrested? are they all criminals? >> well, we're. >> told to. >> expect today to look very similar. >> to. >> what we saw yesterday, not just here in chicago, but really across the country. and we're expecting more operations, more arrests from the federal government. remember, not just ice here, but a coalition of federal agencies that are involved in this targeted enforcement operation. and that phrase that you're hearing from the federal government is used very intentionally, because the signal here is that these are not widespread community roundups that they're doing that are indiscriminate in nature. these are instead targeted operations. they tom homan saying in interviews that they're essentially working through a list of known criminals and going one by one

in all of these states, in most instances, to acquire and arrest these folks for deportation. but we know the case. the case is that that is not true for everyone that is picked up. there's ice uses this term called collateral arrest, talking about when they go and get one person. if there are other people who are here illegally, they will acquire them and round them up as well. gabe gutierrez, a colleague, asked tom homan about that just yesterday. listen to a little bit of what he said. >> any collateral arrests today? i'm sure there's going to be. i think there's been at least a few. and again, that's just in a sanctuary city. if we can't get the bad guy in jail, we're going to go to the community and find them what we're doing today. and when we find them, if they're with others, they're here illegally. they're going to. i don't have a quota. my instructions to them arrest as many as you can that are public safety threats. and for what? somebody else illegally here. they're coming to. >> and it's because of those

collateral arrests. you're hearing a lot of speculation. you're hearing about a lot of fear in some of these immigrant communities. i just yesterday attended a know your rights workshop that was held in a church in which you had groups going teach people how to interact with ice legally if that interaction is to take place. literally going through and putting up warrants, what warrants you're required to open the door for, and what warrant you're able to keep that door shut. and, you know, know your rights for those interactions. so that's something that's being emphasized not just by community groups, but also city leaders here, as these roundups and enforcement operations continue. >> shaq brewster. >> in chicago. thanks, jason. >> 2681 arrests nationwide. >> in. >> six days. >> what do you make. >> of that pace. >> and these other agencies now. >> playing up their. >> roles, particularly. >> the dea? >> you know. >> you look at what the typical ice work and operations that go on yearly all the time. those

numbers are, quite frankly, kind of proportionate to what we see. spacex has continuously prioritizes going after violent criminals. >> what i. >> do see is this sort of compressed sort of enforcement operations over the weekends, surging with other law enforcement agencies. but as you stated, sort of through the through the discussion here, who are they targeting and why? ice focuses and has focused for the last many years on violent criminals, convicted criminals. and what you're seeing is sort of a move away. from that. and quite frankly, pulling other law enforcement agencies that have critical national security and law enforcement mission sets like terrorism, drug interdiction, human trafficking, drug trafficking, sex trafficking, and pulling them into these operations, going after nonviolent, non-criminal migrants is, frankly, makes us less, less safe as communities. and over the last seven days of the administration, there's been multiple moves by this administration, mr. homan, that

has, quite frankly, made us less safe and has not been focused on public safety. >> explain why you think. >> it's made. >> us less safe. >> yeah. i mean. >> for instance, like you said, redeploying dea, atf and the fbi off of terrorism missions, counter drugs, counter narcotics, and then having them focus on non-criminal public safety threats makes us less safe, sort of ending a silly vetting, ending the pathway programs, which was a law enforcement program ending that takes tools away from law enforcement, passing bills and supporting bills like the lake and riley act that actually takes away law enforcement's discretion to go after violent criminals with ice does need to target and then target non public safety threats of people that have just been charged with petty theft offenses over the years makes us less safe. also, just sort of hardening what we've seen out of this administration, sort of pardoning of rioters and the individuals on january 6th and sort of what we're hearing now

about the quotas of arrests that forces ice to go after non public non criminals to hit these arbitrary numbers and takes away from the vital work that enforcement and removal operations does do as a piece of the immigration system. >> what do you see as the. impact beyond. >> taking away. resources but having. >> a quota 1200 arrests? >> what kind of impact could that. have in terms of how. >> they. >> do their job? >> did ice. >> ever. assign quotas when you were there? >> no. i mean, the secretary, the president made it very clear that the priority was violent criminals and the time and attention and resources it takes to take those individuals off the streets is where our enforcement resources should be. ice has about 6000 deportation officers. it takes hundreds of hours to find violent individuals, criminals, gang leaders, drug traffickers, and that takes time and attention. but now the administration is saying this is more about the

media bluster. this is more about showing these sort of like they sort of like large scale operations, which quite frankly, a lot of pieces of it are just typical ice work. and that's why we need to support ice and provide them discretion to go after the most violent and not, say, today you have to go pick up 300 people may have been in the thriving community members, nonviolent, non-criminal, just to hit a quota. and quite frankly, all of this is sort of constrained by the ability to who ice can remove. so you potentially would be forcing ice to take into detention non public safety threats that have no sort of like path to being removed from the country, filling the detention centers that ice has at its disposal. that takes a bet. and that bet then won't be filled with a violent criminal that ice could be targeting. >> just in terms of where these targeted enforcement operations are happening. ashley chicago. >> trump's border. >> czar. >> his acting deputy ag were

there. >> doctor phil was there for. >> a ride. >> along for. some reason as well. what's behind. >> using chicago. >> for this show of force? >> well, it's a it's a democratic. >> city. you know, trump and his people, what we call. >> would call. >> a sanctuary city. >> and they're trying to. >> in addition to. >> trying to enforce. certain policies. >> that president trump feels very strongly about, a lot of this is designed as much to send a message. and so that message is going to be sent in a city like chicago, like potentially new york city. if you look at the places where texas governor greg abbott in that sort of media stunt that turned out to be quite effective during the campaign of sending flights of undocumented immigrants to these cities, these are cities that are not viewed as allies of president trump, not viewed as allies of his immigration policies. and so it's no coincidence that a city like chicago, for instance, also with the state, with the democratic

governor, was chosen, you know, for this first week, second week blitz, which is as much about the policy as it is about the media and the message. >> and this brief dispute. >> with. >> colombia. >> the rapid. >> escalation there by trump. ashley. >> what do you think other u.s. >> allies are thinking right now. observing all of this, whether it's regarding deportation flights or tariffs or. nato funding? >> again, this is very deliberate by president trump to send a message, which i think back to when i covered him all the way going back to the 2015 campaign, there were some things he did that even his own advisers would privately say, you know what? in terms of the actual decision, that wasn't the best thing. but they would say the reason we don't mind that he did it was because he showed people, he showed opponents, he showed people who might go up against him, that he is willing to do the thing that they might think is crazy. he is willing to do the thing that they might think is so outrageous that no

candidate or in this case, no sitting u.s. president, would do. and in this case, he and the president of colombia escalated incredibly quickly in a way that, in theory, had those tariffs gone into effect, would have been alarming both for colombia and a lot of people in the united states. but at the end of the day, what has happened so far, at least, is that the president of colombia backed down. trump essentially got what he wanted. and that sends a very clear message to your original question of allies, adversaries, nato leaders, that that trump will deploy every power of the presidency and every potential threat that might not even be a traditional power of the presidency to try to force people, countries, nations, opponents, rivals to submit to his will. >> ashley parker and jason hauser appreciate. >> the conversation. thanks both. >> for joining. us and joining us now. democratic congresswoman veronica escobar, who represents a border district in texas.

congresswoman, thanks for being here. what's your reaction to. how this immigration crackdown all unfolded this weekend? >> well. >> on all. >> of this. >> we have to put it in context. >> this was. >> political theater. much of this this fight with colombia, which was completely unnecessary. colombia is an ally. we president biden worked very hard to build positive relationships with the president. they have been key partners and allies, and we have to also remember china, who is our competitor and an adversary, has been looking for ways strategically to get into latin america and move closer to the united states, and by alienating our allies and attacking our allies, especially in latin america. i think it is a not just strategic blunder, but it was pointless. nothing really

was accomplished. you know, the as your your prior guests mentioned, there have been there's been ice activity in the interior of the us going on never stopped deportation flights never stopped. in fact, 2024 last year was historically an all time high for deportation flights under president biden. what's going on with mexico and with colombia that resisted the use of military planes is that i think they basically are saying we had a process. we've been engaged in this process with you. why are you using military planes and to finally to the point that that that one of your other guests mentioned about this making us less safe? we've got to remember that all of this bluster and all of this political theater that, you know, isn't it truly isn't making us safer. because when you're using assets that are trained and deployed for other

purposes, whether it's the us military or whether it's the us marshals or whether it's the fbi or or any other federal agency, when you're having them focus on these moments that allow trump to show he's a strong man of sorts. they're basically taking their eye off the ball of their what they're trained and what they are supposed to do for our national security. so this isn't making us safer, but it is feeding red meat to donald trump's base. >> and trump. >> is getting what he wants. >> you talk. >> about the. >> way he. treated an. >> ally, but it worked out the way trump. >> wanted it to. >> he got what. >> he wanted. so does that just further incentivize him to. behave this way and to handle. >> whether. it's an ally. >> or an adversary with a. >> response like. >> we just saw? >> he got what he wanted for now. but here's the challenge

over the long term. and i think, you know, for trump and his supporters, it's always about the sugar rush. you know, the immediate high of see we won and our our guy bullied the other guy. but over the long term americans lose and we lose because number one we need those allies. and we need stability, especially in neighboring countries. the tariff war, trade war. guess what that does? it doesn't just drive up the prices for american consumers, but it also drives up migration when we create when the president when donald trump creates instability in neighboring countries or when their economy begins to, you know, flounder a bit because of tariffs or for whatever other reason, that's when we see migration increase. so there there's a consequence to all of this. and again, alienating our allies in latin america, it opens the door wide open for

china to come in and say, you're not able to count on the us for trade or for an alliance. but guess what? you can count on us that we lose all of us in the long term. >> so let's talk. >> about what congress. >> can do. >> your role here. before trump took office. >> tom homan had said there was no price tag on this immigration agenda. and now a massive price tag has emerged in the $100 billion range. here's republican senator. >> lindsey graham on that. >> we need to give tom homan the money now to execute. >> the. plan that. >> he's. >> come up with. and without congressional funding, this is going to hit a wall. >> so we. >> need to do two bills in reconciliation. the first bill should be $100 billion for the border, 200 billion for national security. put those points on the board. >> give tom. >> the tools he needs to execute a mass deportation strategy. >> what's your reaction to that proposed. >> sum one? and what's the

democrats play here? >> i think number one, something that is interesting to me about that clip is that there's an acknowledgment that there were not adequate resources, you know, in in terms of their perspective provided for enforcement activity, for border policy. et cetera. just as a reminder, the biden administration frequently asked congress for more resources, and it was almost always the republicans. in fact, it was always the republicans who stood in the way of president biden having the resources that he needed. and yet they would turn around and blame president biden for what was happening at the border. despite their rejection of his request for resources. tom homan also told the republican conference to essentially manage their expectations because they they he would he did not have the resources to carry out everything that donald trump

promised, which is why, respectfully. >> though. >> do you anticipate. republicans and donald trump getting. >> what. >> they. >> want here? >> they they've. >> got a. >> tightrope to walk. that government funding runs out in about six weeks. there are some republicans looking for deep cuts in exchange for the massive tax breaks they're giving to the billionaire class. and they want to invest billions of dollars in mass deportation, which, by the way, will also drive up costs when we lose hardworking immigrants that have been here for decades. expect prices to go through the roof. this is a very, very precarious tightrope that republicans are walking. okay, you know, we'll have to wait and see if they're successful. >> democratic congresswoman. >> veronica escobar, thank. >> you so much for joining. us and hope you'll come back soon. up next. >> high stakes hearings. >> for. >> trump picks tulsi. >> gabbard. >> rfk jr and kash patel this week ahead. >> the white. >> house threat against.

republicans who don't. >> support all of them. we'll also. >> talk to one of the 18 inspectors general. fired by president trump in his first tv interview about the friday night purge that's now being called illegal by some. plus, palestinians make the long trek home to northern gaza as the cease fire holds many on foot carrying their few possessions. we're in the region and new marching orders. how new secretary of defense pete. hegseth is already reshaping the hegseth is already reshaping the pentagon. we're back in nothing makes a gathering great like eggland's best eggs. they're just so delicious. with better nutrition, too. for us, it's eggs any style. as long as they're the best. eggland's best. get the comfort and style of

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so you get the same coverage. >> wow. >> for unlimited talk and text with reliable coverage and your second month free call consumer cellular. >> welcome back. >> this week in. >> washington, more trump administration confirmation hearings rfk jr. kash patel and tulsi. >> gabbard will all. >> face senators this week. this after two of his picks got confirmed over the weekend. pete hegseth is secretary of defense and kristi noem at the department of homeland security. and we're learning the pressure now on senate republicans to confirm trump's other picks is ramping up. a senior white house official put it like this to nbc news, quote, it's. >> pass fail. >> you either support everyone or you don't. the senate needs to advise and consent, not advise and adjust. let's go to the hill and nbc's ryan nobles. ryan, it's. >> a busy. >> week for confirmation hearings. what are we expecting? >> well, i think that the pete hegseth nomination process, ana, is very instructive for how. >> the. >> rest of these nominations will play out. obviously, there are a number of controversial nominees that are on the docket

this week, including robert f kennedy jr, tulsi gabbard and kash patel. but at this point, not a single republican has come out and said that there are no on any of these nominees. and while there may be some behind the scenes handwringing about some of these choices, until they actually come out and vote no, and if at least four of them say that they're going to vote no, you have to assume that these nominees will ultimately be confirmed. listen to what lindsey graham told our kristen welker over the weekend about this process, specifically as it relates to tulsi gabbard. >> senator, can you say right now, are. >> you. a yes on tulsi gabbard? >> i am going to see how. >> the hearing goes. >> i'm inclined. >> to be yes on. >> everybody, but there are some questions she will be asked that i want. >> to hear the. >> answers to. >> so you're a. >> we'll see. >> not a. >> yes, we'll see. >> and the pressure campaign from the white house is enormous. so these senators like graham, if they're inclined to vote yes, the assumption is that they ultimately probably will. >> anna and then ryan, when. >> it comes to this late night purge of 18 inspectors general

that happened over the weekend, what departments were they in charge of and what happens now. >> that departments that were affected by this are broad and affect almost every part of government? you're talking about the department of education. you're talking about homeland security. you're talking about all these different, different departments that have these independent watchdogs and inspectors, generals who who's responsibility it is to oversee the way that business is conducted and then also root out corruption and things along those lines. what we've seen here on capitol hill is kind of a lack of effort by republicans to push back on this effort by the white house to remove all these inspectors general, this is something that requires a 30 days notice to congress in order to fire these inspectors general. but the republicans that we talked to were mildly upset about it, even some of them saying that they didn't care, that trump didn't inform them. so we'll have to see if this is going to play out ultimately in court.

>> okay, ryan nobles, keep us posted. thank you. and joining us now is hannibal mike ware. he is the fired inspector general of the small business administration. and this is his first interview since he was fired. mike, we appreciate you joining us. i know you were appointed during trump's first term, unanimously confirmed by the senate. so how did you learn of your firing? and what did the white house say to you? >> well, first. >> off. >> thank you for. >> having me. i learned about this. on friday evening about 740. my wife and i were out with a group. >> of friends having dinner. my phone. started blowing up from a bunch of other ig's because i am the chairman of the council of inspectors general for integrity and efficiency. so i went outside to take the call, and one of them notified me that they had received an email notifying them that they were fired immediately. and so i said, oh, that's a shame. i said, well, let me check my email and notice that i was on there as well. and then of

course, the calls started to pour in. that's how we found out. >> what reason. >> was given for your firing? >> well, the reason is actually the most alarming part. the reason was due to changing priorities of the administration. and the reason that is alarming is because igs are not a part of any administration. igs oversee how the priorities of the administration is being conducted, to make sure that there is transparency in government, and to make sure that there is no fraud, waste and abuse in how taxpayer funds are being expended. >> the legal. >> justification here is. >> somewhat murky, because we know the inspector general act of 2022, which was. pushed by republicans in congress. it requires a 30 day notification window from the white house informing congress of an intent to fire an inspector general to that ig being removed from on duty status. so i wonder, given that are you planning to go to

work today? >> well, i did not go into the office today. i know that i heard from the folks that i had been denied access, so i did not enter. so that would be a no for today. >> i want to play some sound from senator lindsey graham. >> who, as we've shown, was. >> on our air over the weekend. and this is what he said about whether he thinks the trump administration broke the law. here. >> well. >> technically, yeah, but he has the authority to do it. so i'm not, you know. >> losing a. >> whole lot of sleep that he wants to change the personnel out. i just want to make sure that. >> he gets. >> off to a good start. >> i think. >> he has. >> i'm very. >> supportive of what he wants to do. america. >> how do you respond to that? >> well. >> technically, yeah, it's a funny thing because technically year is not the world that inspectors general operate in. we provide oversight based on what the law says. and i'd like to say this. this is this is not

about any of our individual jobs. we acknowledge that the president has the right to remove any of us that he chooses, but the protections that were baked in to the act are is everything absent having to provide a real reason? we're looking at what amounts to a threat to democracy, a threat to independent oversight and a threat to transparency and government. this is the statute isn't just a technicality. it's a key protection of ig independence is what it is. and just like you like you referenced just over two years ago, these things were put in to strengthen our independence, not to weaken it and treat it as if it's a technicality. and then think about this. i would say

this to what i just heard, adherence to the ig act cannot be done in a piecemeal manner. you can't decide. i'm not going to follow that part of the ig act, but oh, i'm going to follow the part that allows ig to have full and unfettered access to all agencies, records and personnel. you're going to follow the part that says that we get to determine which investigations we conduct, and not if you if you split it up like that, it's all gone. we might as well not have an inspector general act at all. we might as well not have an independent oversight mechanism for our government. >> if the goal was to remove people who weren't aligned with. >> the trump vision, and we. >> were told by a. >> white house official, we're cleaning house of. >> what doesn't. >> work for us. and going forward. then what types of things could go unchecked? and what more broadly is the impact? >> well, the impact is this. i'll tell you, our community has

been doing effective work for since inception of the ig act in 1978. in the last ten years alone, we have over $143 million in investigative recoveries alone. we have a $26 return on investment on every dollar spent on ig offices in my office at sba alone over the past five years, we have a return on investment of over $50 per for every dollar spent on us. so what is being stripped away is an independent way to provide the type of protections and the type of transparency that every american citizen decides or deserves, rather, and that's what's at stake. and you know, what's interesting is that for years we have been viewed as nonpartisan, nonpolitical. what's happening right now is historic in that this has never happened before. when the ig was

first part passed in president reagan's first term, at the beginning, he attempted to do this and then pulled back the attempt after realizing that this type of checks and balances is exactly what is baked into our very constitution. but it was only a couple of weeks ago that senator joni ernst touted the work of igs and our independence, and created the ig caucus within the senate. and we would hope that the ig caucus stands up for what is right and stands up for independent oversight and stands up for transparency in government. >> do you. >> worry that that's really what's at stake? >> do you worry about who's going to replace you? >> oh. >> well, at this point, we have to ask ourselves if it's about changing priorities in the administration and non-adherence

to the to the to the rationale that we're not a part of the administration and you're going to put people in who are more like loyalists, then the whole system is in shambles, because who would be afraid, who would be brave enough to speak truth to power, which is a basic tenet of what it means to be an ig. nobody. if the real threat is as soon as something is found to be out of alignment with the law, you are removed. so yes, i my concern is not even for my office. my concern is for the sanctity of what? an office of inspector general is, and the role of an inspector general within our democracy. >> now, former. >> inspector general. >> mike ware, thank you. >> very much for speaking out and being here with us today. >> thank you for having me. it's a pleasure. >> up next here on anna cabrera report, president trump says he wants to, quote, clean out gaza and move palestinians to jordan and egypt. how that's being received by arab leaders.

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making this long trek on foot, carrying their few possessions, all making thence the start of 5 months ago. it comes after a weekend that saw a few more hostages four israeli women freed by hamas and reunited with their families, with more expected to be released in the coming days. nbc's raf sanchez joins us from tel aviv and raf, first, what kind of shape are these hostages in as they're coming out of captivity? and what can you tell us about what's next? >> so, ana, we were initially expecting just three hostages to be released this week, but after late night crisis negotiations, israel now says six hostages are coming home, potentially including an american. after a weekend that saw four female israeli soldiers released from hamas captivity. israel now preparing for the return of six more hostages in the coming days. a breakthrough in crisis

talks after hamas agreed to free arbel ehud, a civilian, raising hopes that american keith segal could be free this week. in return, israel this morning allowing thousands of displaced palestinian civilians to go home to the ruins of northern gaza. but president trump igniting a diplomatic storm, suggesting most of gaza's population could be moved to egypt and jordan for their own safety. >> i mean. >> you're talking. >> about probably. >> a million and a half people. >> and we. >> just clean out that whole thing. >> it's literally. >> a demolition. >> site right now. >> egypt and jordan, u.s. allies rejecting the idea while in israel, the soldiers known as the watchtower girls finally came home, reunited with their parents before flying back to tel aviv. >> and it. >> is hovering. >> over the helipad now. >> this was back on the morning of october 7th. >> what? >> her family invited us

exclusively to be with them as they anxiously awaited news. >> it's a big. >> moment for us, but. there are so many lives that were lost in this war and on that day, we were so sorry for them. >> and then she. >> was free. so a real scene of joy for that family. but there are harsher realities coming here on a middle eastern official tells us that hamas has now informed israel of the 26 hostages who are still in gaza, slated to be released in this phase of the deal. eight of them are dead. we are also expecting steve witkoff, president trump's middle east envoy, here on wednesday, and he is talking about actually going inside the gaza strip, which would be a

first for a senior u.s. official during this war. ana. >> really bittersweet. >> news there. elation at the return of those. >> hostages. >> but just heartbreak for other families right now. raf sanchez, thank you. back here in the u.s. this morning, defense secretary pete hegseth is at work inside the pentagon. here he was just last hour for his formal arrival after being sworn in over the weekend. >> we're in capable hands. >> the warfighters are ready to go. >> and as the secretary of defense, it's an honor to salute smartly, as i did as a junior officer and now as the secretary of defense, to ensure these orders are complied with rapidly and quickly. >> and we're. >> starting to see what the pentagon will look like. >> under his. >> leadership, on top of the agenda, eliminating diversity programs, assessing military deployments around the world, reevaluating which military officials will keep their jobs, and overseeing more deployments to the southern border. joining us now, nbc news senior national

security correspondent courtney, qb. courtney, walk us through secretary haig. >> seth's first. >> moves in office following his confirmation this weekend. >> yeah. >> so what he was referring to there when he said that those orders would be followed quickly? he was talking about the orders of president donald trump very specifically. and we're already starting to hear about some of those specific orders, in some cases, executive actions that have come out of president trump that will be implemented here at the pentagon. you mentioned die. we expect to hear more about the pentagon's efforts to end. die programs. >> going forward, but also potentially to go. >> after individuals or offices that have tried to change their names since the election in the past few months, so that they would no longer be seen as a diversity initiative or. >> group to. try to protect the protect the jobs and the people. >> in them. in addition to that, we. >> heard he. >> mentioned, he's also talking about. covid reinstating individuals, thousands. >> of. >> men and women who were

separated from the military because they refused to get the covid vaccine in 2020, 2021 and even into 2022. now we are hearing that president trump, he said this in the inauguration speech last week. he wants to give those individuals the opportunity to rejoin the military and to get back pay. so we're talking about potentially upwards of 8000, maybe more people who were separated with the potential to have several years. >> of back pay. >> we are talking about a lot of money. we're trying to figure out exactly how dod will pay. >> for that. >> and what about. >> just all of the things that go. >> with bringing. >> thousands of. >> individuals back into the. >> military, whether they. >> will if they have aged out, if they are still physically capable of serving all of those questions we're trying to get answers to. but in addition to that, you just saw. >> in that. >> video, cq brown, the general cq. >> brown, the chairman. >> of the joint chiefs, greeted the new secretary of defense this morning out on the stairs. he was asked about. >> whether general brown. >> the chairman. >> would be fired. >> pete hegseth saying as he put

his arm on him, he's here and i look forward to working with him. anna. >> okay. courtney, qb with the very latest. again, just day one on the job. >> technically and a lot to be watching. thank you. joining us now is retired commander of the u.s. army in europe, lieutenant general mark hertling. it's good to see you. general i want to start with what's happening inside the military and the efforts that are happening on the border involving the military. secretary hegseth in his first day. u.s. troops at the border. u.s. military aircraft conducting deportation flights to other countries. what do you make of american service members being utilized in this manner? >> well, if we want to talk. >> about the border. >> first, ana, that's happened before. >> we're talking. >> about 1500 so far. >> 1400 u.s. military going to the southern. border in various locations. >> but that's something that the military. does all the time. not to put too. much emphasis on it, but. >> the military does. >> something called. military

support to the civilian authorities. >> and when you take. >> a. >> look at who has been. >> deployed to the border, to me it looks like they are supporting the civilian. authority and homeland security. >> you see, they're putting up wires. >> they're putting. >> up fences, they're. construction workers. >> and what we've seen. >> in terms of the. >> deployment of. >> units specifically. >> have been primarily engineer units from both the army and the marine corps. there have. >> been quite. >> a few military policemen as well. those military police, unless the insurrection act is called, cannot either go after u.s. citizens or. arrest u.s. citizens. they can only provide support to homeland security. so again, this is something that has happened before, but i think it's all part of the. messaging campaign of the new administration that they're getting tough on the border. >> yeah. and part of that messaging campaign is shock and awe. in your recent piece for the bulwark, you say that this is the vision. the first days and weeks in office, including

the immigration crackdown. you question if they even understand what shock and awe means. who can forget the use of that term shock and awe from the 2003 bombing of iraq? of course, the general from the military perspective, defined shock and awe for our audience and your view of this administration's perhaps lack of understanding. >> well, even the. >> first general officer that that had the phrase attached to him, general tommy franks, who was the head of central command, said he didn't like the phrase because it didn't go into the depth of the kind of actions that occur after the initial kinetic strike which occurred in baghdad. so on that first night of the war, back in 2003, there were a lot of explosions all over the city. it was called shock and awe by most of the media and some of the civilians. but what general franks was talking about is, okay, what happens next? are the plans sufficient to support the initial kinetic action? and as a guy who. >> spent several. >> years fighting in the war on terror in iraq and afghanistan, i will tell you that the initial

bombastic comments about shock and awe were not reinforced by long term plans or the execution of those plans by forces. confusion reigns on any battlefield, whether it's a battlefield for the military or, i hate to use the term, but a battlefield for the politicians. you have to have a lot of plans to back things up, and we're already starting to see some disconnects in the initial shock and awe campaign with what happens after and a whole lot of pushback. you just had the ig on a minute ago, and he's talking about what happens next. after this initial order. i would suggest the same thing is going to occur in a lot of situations where the second and third order effects haven't come into consideration. >> there are the deportations, there's the purge at the inspector general level. there's also this purge going on when it comes to dei initiatives. in fact, secretary heads that seem to focus on that. over the weekend on ex, he posted something that appeared to be a handwritten note about no more

dei, with the words no exceptions. what impact could that rollback of diversity mean for the future of the us military? >> well, it could cause various offices that support dei to close within the military. those same kind of offices are on college campuses and in some businesses. so, you know, truthfully, ana, in the us military, there is a complete emphasis on how to build teams. and in order to build teams, you have to understand the members of those teams so they can fight effectively and efficiently. so, you know, that's why dei was established. there was some contention about potential terrorists within the ranks. some extremists that have joined the military and the initial programs were looking at how do we ensure that those individuals aren't all by themselves and ar, in fact brought into the us military's value system? so what i'm seeing right now, and you just showed it a minute ago in

the screen, and what secretary haig says initial emphasis would be on the first several days of being in office. what i'd suggest i was thinking about it saturday morning after the confirmation hearing on friday. secretary hegseth is going to find the vast dynamics of the defense department are overwhelming. i would suggest his first couple of briefings are going to be on the use of nuclear weapons, and how he is in the nuclear chain of command from the president to the forces, because that's the most dangerous. but he's also going to be involved in acquisition programs, the coordination of the various services army, navy, air force, marines, coast guard, space force. he's going to look at all the departments that look at the future war plans, contingency plans, the kinds of things that youd in terms of personnel readiness and what affects those the acquisition programs i already mentioned. but, you know, he made a lot of promises about expanding the navy, expanding the air force, reducing the army. he's going to see the second and third order effects of those two. it is a

mind numbing job to go in as a secretary of defense. and i think, you know, to have his focus primarily on dei is going to be quickly overwhelmed by the kinds of issues that occur in america's military and their relationships with other countries. >> you point out just a little slice of what a full plate he has going into the pentagon. lieutenant general mark hertling, really appreciate your insights and expertise. great to have you on with us. thanks. >> thank you. >> anna. >> next on ana cabrera reports rain in california helping firefighters. but it's also bringing mudslide dangers, the bringing mudslide dangers, the risks folks are still the future is not just going to happen. you have to make it. and if you want a successful business, all it takes is an idea, and now becomes the future where you grew a dream into a reality. the all new godaddy airo. put your business online in minutes with the power of ai.

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today? >> we're right now in the middle of this ceremony, and as you pointed out, which i think is so poetic about all of this, is you have world leaders, everyone from the president of france to the king of the united kingdom, king charles. you've got these, these global faces, and none of them have been invited to speak. they are all being asked, like the world, to listen to the testimony of these people who survived the unimaginable. i'm standing right now at the edge of auschwitz to birkenau. >> this is. >> a place where hundreds of thousands of people were murdered. just behind me there is a train track, an area that was known as the jew ramp. trains would pull in. you would have these doctors from the ss, an elite group of nazis, who would select, who would be sent immediately to a gas chamber, and then their body burned to erase evidence of the crimes. other people were chosen for hard labor, were chosen for scientific experiments, if you can even call it scientific. so

it's not even to say that they were chosen to live so much as to die more slowly. that is what went on here. and there were an estimated 1.1 million people killed here. and we are talking about almost all of them. were jews chosen for death because of that, that religious faith. but there were also poles killed here. the roma, gay men, soviet pows. all these people lost their lives because of the actions of the third reich and its collaborators. and so now this is a time to remember not just the people who lost their lives here at auschwitz, but throughout the holocaust. we're talking about a combined roughly 6 million jews killed many others from various groups. and this is a moment to reflect on the past, but also a warning for the future from these survivors. anna. >> so important we cannot forget. jesse kirsch. thank you for that reporting. that does it for us today. i'm ana cabrera, reporting from new york. jose diaz-balart picks up our coverage next.