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>> plans from. >> homeserve start at. >> just 4.99. >> a month. call 1-888-246-2612 or visit homeserve. com. >> good day. i'm chris. >> jansing, live at msnbc. >> headquarters in new york city. >> the long road home. >> as far. >> as the eye can see. >> thousands of. >> palestinians pouring back into gaza following the. >> cease fire. >> but getting there is one thing. >> actually rebuilding. >> their. >> lives amid the rubble is something else entirely. plus, chilling. effect fears spreading among immigrants nationwide after nearly a thousand people are rounded up in a single day as part of donald trump's immigration raids. the president's border czar telling nbc news the numbers will keep
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rising and that every undocumented migrant should be worried. and covid cases taking a back seat to a more traditional illness this time of year. the flu. how bad is it and why are the cases of one going up while the other is going down? so much to get to on a monday? but we begin with the heart wrenching scenes unfolding in northern gaza. tens of thousands of palestinians returning to what remains of their homes. this is the first time civilians have been allowed there since israel ordered an evacuation nearly 16 months ago, ahead of a withering ground and air campaign against hamas. israel reopened roadblocks this morning to allow in more than 650,000 palestinians who were waiting to cross from the south. for many, the journey home brought joy and tears as they traveled with loved ones and clutched their belongings, including tents and mattresses that they'll use as they try to rebuild their lives. those dramatic pictures, coming as two
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key u.s. allies, jordan and egypt, are pushing back on controversial comments from president trump, saying he wants to move the palestinians to neighboring countries and, quote, clean out gaza. nbc's raf sanchez is in tel aviv. for us, raf. >> hey there. starting this morning at 7 a.m. local time, thousands of displaced palestinian families beginning the long journey home back to the north of gaza. this is a moment they have been waiting 15 months for in some cases, but also a very long and strenuous 48 hours. the idea was that these families would have been allowed to go back to northern gaza starting on saturday morning. but israel said hamas had breached the agreement by refusing to release a civilian israeli hostage. her name is arbel ehud, and in response, israel would not allow those palestinian civilians to go back
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to the north. that was putting real strain on the cease fire. but in a late night breakthrough brokered by qatar. we are now expecting our ehud to come out of gaza on thursday. and this morning, israel finally allowing those palestinians to return back to the north of the strip. now, it is not clear what many of these people are going back to. the united nations says some 90% of all the homes in gaza are damaged or completely destroyed by the intensity of israel's bombing campaign. and yet again and again and again, what we have heard from palestinian civilians is they don't care if their home is still standing. they want to go back to it anyway. when you look at the images of northern gaza, you get a sense of just the scale of the reconstruction effort that is going to be needed here. many, many billions of dollars, many, many years to rebuild gaza.
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president trump over the weekend, suggesting that the majority of the population of gaza, some 1.5 million people, could simply leave the strip, go to jordan, go to egypt. while that reconstruction was going on, that may have been a well intentioned comment, but i can tell you both egypt and jordan. us allies flatly rejecting that idea. the palestinian authority saying it will not allow its people to be displaced. but very moving scenes as these families finally make their way home here in israel, there is joy over the release of those four israeli soldiers freed over the weekend. joy at the prospect of six more hostages coming home this week, potentially including 65 year old american keith siegel. but there is also a harsh reality that israelis are facing up to today. the government today confirming that of the 26 hostages still in gaza but
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slated to be released in phase one of the deal, eight of them are dead. and there is a growing sense of dread about the fate of kfir bibas, the youngest hostage in gaza, as well as his brother and his mother. as israel waits to see who is coming out alive. i'll send it back to you. >> raf sanchez, thank you for that. and joining me now is nbc white house correspondent yamiche alcindor and joel rubin, former deputy assistant secretary of state and president of the washington strategy group. good to see both of you. so, yamiche, obviously, trump's comments on gaza's future were celebrated by some far right lawmakers in israel, but rejected, as ralph just said, by allies in the middle east. so what do we know about trump's vision for the region, and is there any indication he's listening to the pushback against displacing palestinians? >> well. >> it's a. >> key question, and. >> we're not sure if this pushback is going to make a difference in how president trump views this. but he did make some news over the weekend
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where he said. >> that. >> gaza should be cleaned out and that the people, palestinian people, should leave in peace, but elsewhere in the middle east, and that he was going to work with arab nations. >> take a listen to what he said. >> i'd like egypt. >> to take. >> people, and i'd. >> like georgia. >> tech people. i can think you're. talking about probably million and a half people. and we just clean out that whole thing. >> so you hear it there. he said, we should just clean out that whole thing, and maybe they can go somewhere. they can live in. >> peace for a change. >> now, it's also striking to remember that he has reached out. >> now to. >> jordan and to egypt. from our. >> understanding to try. >> to. >> take more palestinian refugees, more palestinians, to maybe live within their borders as gaza is being rebuilt. but as ralph. >> said, the people. >> there, the palestinians. they don't want to leave their homeland, they want to stay there. they want. >> to. >> go back no matter what they're going back to. and a senior hamas official also said that the palestinian people had endured death in order not to leave the homeland and will not leave it for any other reason. i
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also want to put up, as we think about trump's vision for america in this region, he there's a white house statement that came out after the release of some israeli hostages. the white house said the united states will continue its great partner with its great partner, israel, to push for the release of all remaining hostages and the pursuit of peace throughout the region. so what peace ends up looking like and where people end up living is a big question. but as you said, and as ralph reported, people are going back to their homeland now in gaza. chris. >> so, joel, critics have been brutal after they heard what the president had to say, one un human rights expert calling it ethnic cleansing, an arab official suggesting it is a real estate developers idea for a business. how does just the suggestion of that complicate the relationship between the us and middle east allies? just a float cleaning out gaza? >> yeah, chris. >> president trump. acting like a global autocrat. >> does nothing to build. >> our relationships with these countries. >> and, you know. >> jordan and. >> egypt. >> for example, are very close
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to american allies. so saudi. >> arabia. >> so. >> is qatar, so is the uae. >> the list goes on. >> and on. >> and in the arab. >> world this is immediately rejected. >> and the. >> idea that. >> somehow donald trump can. >> by fiat. >> tell a million and a half palestinians. >> to. go to countries. >> that are friends. >> of the. >> united. >> states and. >> destabilize them, undermine. >> their security. break up these. >> relationships really. speaks to a lack of vision. >> for how. >> american national security. >> works. >> and a lack of understanding for how relationships matter in stabilizing. >> the. >> middle east. >> as we've. >> seen. >> just in the hiccup. of the recent hostage deal and the cease fire with with hamas, that required allies like qatar to. >> get involved. >> we need these allies. they're our friends. and this idea that somehow we can unilaterally. move a million and a half people to destabilize our allies is completely undercuts our authority in the region. >> well, when hamas released those four israeli hostages on saturday, it made quite a show of force. they held that highly
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choreographed ceremony attended by hundreds of uniformed fighters. do you believe that at the end of this war, hamas will be in control of gaza? would israel ever allow that? what's going to happen there? >> you know. >> they're going to have to have a negotiation that really works to the phase three, the after the trades of palestinian prisoners for israeli hostages, to get an authority in gaza that can manage it and run it. and that's going to require american leadership with. >> jordan. >> with egypt, with qatar and these other allies to develop that plan. there are a lot of plans on paper out and about in the region and washington and the agencies of what a reconstruction and a political rebuilding of gaza could look like. absent that, though, you're right. look, hamas is right now on the ground. it has ostensible control, but this is a devastated zone. if this is what victory looks like, i'd be shuddering to see what a loss looks like for hamas. the place is devastated, but the palestinians, they have no
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alternative from a governing perspective right now. and that's what needs to change. if there's going to be any hope of stability in that region. >> those extraordinary pictures coming out of gaza today. yamiche alcindor, joel rubin, thank you so much. meantime, a popular israeli restaurant here in new york city was vandalized in what officials are condemning as an act of anti-semitism. employees of miriam's found the restaurant covered in red graffiti, reading genocide cuisine and israel steals culture. that was on sunday morning. mayor eric adams posted on social media he's heartbroken by this evil act, and the nypd is investigating and will find those responsible, adding we will never tolerate hateful acts like these here ever. also on sunday, a group was protesting the appearance of two israeli soldiers at a synagogue in south orange, new jersey, when some of them broke off and spray painted anti-semitic graffiti in the driveway. they wrote terrorists this way, and then had an arrow
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pointing toward the synagogue. the mayor described it as a deeply disturbing act of intolerance. police are investigating it as a bias crime. well, today, holocaust survivors gathered at the infamous nazi death camp auschwitz to mark 80 years since the day red army troops marched in and liberated 7000 people. today's ceremonies took place on what is known as the international holocaust remembrance day. nbc's jesse kirsch is reporting from on the ground in poland. and, jesse, i know we heard directly from some survivors today about the importance of never again. what did they have to say? >> chris, they warn about the kinds of incidents that you were just talking about back in the u.s. they worry. they worry and warn about incidents of anti-semitism, of people being dehumanized because of the religion, because of their
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ethnicity, for whatever that denomination might be. and they implore people to heed the warnings from their past so that we do not relive these moments in the future. and what you're looking at right now are images from a place where more than a million people died. they were murdered, and most of them were murdered for one reason only. they were jewish. we're talking about children, the elderly, disabled, targeted specifically because they could not be good slave laborers. and so they were instantly sent to the gas chambers, families torn apart, children had a chance to live temporarily if they were twins, because then they became the subjects of human experimentation. these are the kinds of stories we've heard for decades firsthand from survivors. but now we're looking at an estimate of only around 1000 auschwitz survivors still alive. i've had the privilege of meeting some of them, including eva umlauf, who says that she was less than two years old when a tattoo was stamped into her arm. here's part of our conversation.
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>> it was very small because the whole arm was small. >> they did this to you at two years old? >> yes. >> what do young people need to know about what happened to you and millions like yourself? >> that they have to know that it's true, you know, because it's so, so unbelievable. this number is not only on the skin. this is deeper. >> it's just the testimony from one survivor beyond the words of those who were here when this all unfolded. there are piles of shoes of eyeglasses. and for me, what really stood out, something we cannot photograph. we do not photograph out of respect for those who were killed. the piles of human hair that they have here, further evidence of the countless people who had their lives ripped apart and ended again, mostly just because of
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their religion. there were also polish people persecuted here gay men, the roma and sinti, soviet pows, so many different groups senselessly, brutally murdered, and those who lived. living is really even a tough word for it, because they were really still meant to die. they just were meant to die slowly and yet somehow, some remarkably lived. and they are still here telling those stories. and now they are, you know, their numbers are dwindling. but the hope is that message still gets out. and again, their message overall continues to be never again. that is the resounding thing they want people to hear is to try to make sure this does not happen again. this is something that happened 80 years ago, and they fear that there might be the current leading toward that yet again. chris. >> keeping that message alive is the very least we can do. jesse kirsch, thank you. in 90s, cities nationwide are on edge as the trump administration ramps up arrests and deportations. we're live in chicago, where a
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involving other agencies like the drug enforcement administration. border czar homan told nbc news that the initial plan is to focus on criminals, including gang members and murderers, but he acknowledged that others could be caught up in the operations as well. >> if we can't get the bad guy in to jail, we're going to go to the community and find them what we're doing today and when we find them, if they're with others, they're here illegally. they're going to my instructions to them, arrest as many as you can that are public safety threats. if they're with somebody else illegally here, they're coming to. >> nbc's shaquille brewster is joining me from chicago, a city homan said would be ground zero for mass deportations. what's the latest where you are? >> shaq well, chris, we know those operations are taking place today. there are more arrests that are happening today, and we're learning more about the scope of this operation that's taking place. and the trump administration highlighting that it's not just ice, but you have a coalition of federal agencies involved in what you're seeing take place,
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not just here in chicago, but across the country. here in chicago, though, we're learning that there are approximately ten teams, ten ice teams of ten members each fanned out across the city and its surrounding suburbs. and what ice has called this is an enhanced, targeted operation. and they're using that phrase very specifically to signal that these are not indiscriminate sweeps that they're doing of communities or of workplaces, but they're essentially saying, according to tom homan, the border czar, that they're working through a list of criminals, of people who are convicted of crimes and trying to obtain them and then process them for deportation. but in that interview that he did with our colleague gabe gutierrez, he also acknowledged that there are these so-called collateral arrests. and that is a situation where if they see people who are unauthorized here in the united states with some of the people that they're targeting, they will still pick them up and process them for deportation. and it's that part that's
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causing so much fear and concern and speculation here on the ground in chicago. i want you to listen to a conversation i had with the venezuelan migrant yesterday at a know your rights workshop that was being held at a church on the city's south side. she said she's been here in chicago for about three months after coming in using the cbp, one app that's now shuttered by the trump administration. listen, a little bit of what she told me through the voice of a translator. >> many of us come here to. >> work to. >> give to our families. >> saying, no, no todos somos menos. >> like they. >> say, not all. >> of us are bad. not everyone is doing bad things here. >> muchas personas. >> and. >> many people are fearful. that's why they're not leaving their homes. >> tenemos un papel. >> donde no represented. >> but we do have those of us who have a paper that can represent us, that we're here. we shouldn't be afraid. >> you have city leaders like the mayor pointing to those workshops that happen in person
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and virtually, saying that it's important that immigrant communities know their rights when having interactions with ice. and then there's a statement from the two senators, democratic senators here in illinois. they say that we can all agree that we must remove dangerous individuals from our country who are here illegally. it goes on to say, but these actions have the potential to sweep up dreamers who come to the united states as children, veterans, essential workers, family members talking about the impact that it's having on other people who are not just those who are criminals that the government says they are targeting at this phase. chris. >> shaquille brewster, thank you. i want to bring in california democratic congressman robert garcia, who's a member of the house oversight committee and part of its subcommittee on military and foreign affairs. it's good to have you back on the program. and i think, you know, when you look at that statement from the illinois senators, these raids are being presented in a way most americans support, which is to be very simple. get the bad guys out. but do you have concerns beyond that?
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>> of course. i mean. >> look, first, i think everyone can agree. democrats, republicans. i think all good people believe that if you're here, you're causing crimes you're obviously doing harm to our country, to our people. you shouldn't be in this country. everyone agrees with that. but that's not what this is. this is empowering ice to go into our public. >> schools, into. >> our churches. >> into into places. >> where people should feel safe. and people are going. >> to get. >> swept up. >> who are dreamers. >> who. >> are just. here working in our restaurants, taking care of our kids, working in our small businesses. and that, i think, should. concern all of us. this is an inhumane approach and process that donald trump is putting out there. one, because. >> he. could care less. >> about immigrants and the history of migrants in this country, but also because of the cruelty. he wants. >> to put. >> also a show on, as we've. >> seen with his actions with colombia, with tariffs. he wants us to be a spectacle. and what's
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really, i think, really should enrage us and should be. >> saddened and. >> anger us is the fact that donald trump could care less about. people as human beings. he wants to round people up and deport them. he could care less who gets deported. and i think that's what concerns a lot of us in congress, but should concern every single american. >> well, we have heard reports about kids not going to school. we've heard about people not going to work, people afraid to leave their homes. but i want to play what vice president j.d. vance said about the impact of these raids. >> we empowered law enforcement to enforce. >> the law. >> everywhere to protect americans. >> but a chilling effect, arguably, do people. >> to not. >> send their kids. >> to school? >> i desperately hope it has. >> a chilling effect. >> on illegal. >> immigrants coming. >> u.s. conference. >> of catholic. >> so what are our democrats? what are people in your position saying to immigrants who may even, frankly, be here with documentation or believe, you know, as the venezuelan woman, she went on the app, she came in but just don't know what to
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expect under this new administration. what do you tell them? >> i mean, first. >> with what you know, what what the vice president said was both un-american and unchristian and completely shameful and cruel. look, let. >> me just. >> add, chris, i, i was a, you know, i came to this country. i've been undocumented before. i came to the us as a young kid. you know, i have been through this process. my family and i worked incredibly. hard to become us citizens to earn citizenship. we just wanted to be here to give back to this country the great honor of serving in congress. right now. immigrants are patriotic people who love this country and who want to get back. and yes, like any group, there are going to be people that shouldn't be here that are committing crimes. that is true from all groups. but as we know, a vast majority of people that are here are here to work and to give back and to parents who are scared about taking their kids to school. i think we understand, and i understand personally very much so, how frightening that is. schools should be safe places. i
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encourage folks to connect with their places of worship, with their schools, with their teachers, a vast majority of public servants and people that are out there want to help and provide good information. and all people should know, immigrants included, they have rights. if you, especially if you were here as a dreamer on daca, you have a work permit, you have rights and you don't have to give the authorities immediate information. contact your local school, contact your workplace, contact your local church and understand what your rights are, whether you have documentation or not. i think it's turning ice into some sort of horrific gestapo force, some sort of force that's going to go out there and terrorize and dehumanize people. i think is really sick. >> so if you if you help people understand what their rights are, then is that any kind of guarantee that those rights will be respected? >> well, i think i think we've got to be realistic that i don't
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i don't think donald trump is going to or cares about respecting the laws or the rights. he's a he's a criminal himself. he could care less about our constitution. he could care less that if you're born in the united states, of course we know that you are a us citizen. he wants to take that away and could care less about that. so no, we shouldn't expect donald trump to follow all the rights and rules. but i do believe there are a lot of good people in this country, especially in our education system, especially at our cities and local jurisdictions, that actually will provide protection and good information. people, let me ask you something. >> because i'm running short on time. congressman, understanding what you're saying. i want to read to you something that bret stephens wrote in the new york times. he says trump may be a very blunt instrument, but we're a country in need of disruption. the important conversation we should have now is how to disrupt wisely, not how to defend norms for norms sake. in the face of trump's norm bending. you know you've lived it. immigration is a conversation that has been going on for decades, if not
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generations, without a solution. is there a way for you and your colleagues to understand this deeply, personally, as well as politically? to help republicans, in brett's words, disrupt wisely? >> i mean, look, not donald trump. i, i don't think donald trump has to do anything but but be cruel and inhumane and deport everybody he can. so i don't think republicans are interested in actually helping people. there are ways to actually solve this challenge. democrats also want a secure border. we also want to ensure that there's a process at the border that is humane, that is legal, that there are rights that people have, that there are enough immigration judges out there that actually process these cases. and we should have work permits. we should have a strong visa program. we should have immigration reform that actually encourages folks to go through f they're eligible. and yes, if you're a criminal in this country, whether you're a non-citizen or not, you should absolutely not be here. we can all agree on all of that. but
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donald trump doesn't want any of that. he wants to put on a show. he wants to be a strongman authoritarian, and he has no respect for immigrant immigrants, which is odd, by the way, considering his own family history and the contributions we have made. and so we're going to have to really fight, work with people and protect people over the next few years. >> congressman robert garcia garcia, thank you so much for coming on the program. we appreciate it. and up next, house republicans head to trump's florida resort to hash out the president's agenda. will they emerge with a cohesive plan? we're live at the site of plan? we're live at the site of that retreat ♪ (man) oh, come on. ♪ (woman) ugh. (woman) phone! (man) ahhh! (woman) oh! (man) oh no. (woman) dang it! (vo) you break it. we take it. at verizon, any one can trade in any phone in any condition, guaranteed. and get google pixel 9 for everyone in the family.
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sherman is co-founder of punchbowl news and an msnbc political contributor. good to see you, gentlemen. okay, vaughn, what kinds of issues are republicans going to be hashing out today? >> right. jake is about 200 yards from where i'm where i am right now. and i know we're waiting for a 3 p.m. press conference with speaker johnson and other house leaders ahead of a 5 p.m. eastern. that's 3.5 hours from now. remarks that are going to be delivered by president trump, who is already here at his doral property just outside of miami. there is a lot on the line for the republican majorities in the senate, in the house in these two years ahead of the 2026 midterms. and let's be very clear, they're going to have a test right out of the gate. and that is where conversations between particularly speaker johnson and president trump are going to be so key come march 14th. you have the government funding deadline, a potential shutdown looming a little while after that, later this spring, you're also looking at the u.s. hitting the debt ceiling. those negotiations are going to also have to take
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place. of course, there's also much discussion about the reconciliation package that the senate and the house are going to look to try to sign off on, essentially bringing in tax cut extensions, immigration enforcement spending, energy policy under all one umbrella package. and this is going to be a major test because folks will recall back in december, right before the december holidays, the donald trump was with the likes of john thune, the senate majority leader, and speaker mike johnson at a football game on a saturday night. and just 48 hours later, the bipartisan deal for a short term spending deal that everybody thought that they were on the same page about, was effectively blown up on a monday by elon musk and by donald trump. and so that is the question mark here for house republicans is, yes, they have a narrow majority, but it's ultimately going to be the word of donald trump and potentially others, including elon musk, to ultimately sign off on any legislation or debt ceiling agreement, any government spending deal that were to come
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from capitol hill. >> so, jake, what signs will you be looking for to see if president trump can keep that razor thin majority in line and emerge with a plan that he's happy with? >> something, something concrete. >> some concrete spending plan spending and tax plan spending cut plan that republicans are singing from the same song sheet on. we've not had that yet so far. but to be clear, this is a complicated process. but to make things even more complicated, mike johnson has said he wants a budget passed and a budget unlocks the reconciliation process. he wants a budget passed in the next month. that's going to be very difficult. so house republicans have to get on the same page, figure out where they're cutting, how much of the trump tax cuts they want to extend, and what other taxes they want to cut on top of that. so this is as, as vaughn said, a very critical moment. >> so how much pressure is there on the whip for the republican whip, tom emmer? and how effective do you think he'll be and how critical or not critical
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in stopping any potential defectors or, i guess, in trump's eyes, troublemakers? >> yeah. >> i think that emmer is not is just the tip of the iceberg. but there's a lot, a lot below the surface. i mean, there needs to be a plan with and remember the let me take a step back here. in 2017, 13 republicans voted against the tax cuts and jobs act. that was the first tax cut of the trump era. that was the big legislative achievement in the last the last trump administration. you can't lose really more than one here. so you're going to have it's not only emmer, it's about finding a plan, finding a large piece of legislation that could attract the support of everybody from mike lawler, a moderate. and brian fitzpatrick, who represent these, you know, suburban districts to the hard right. and that's extraordinarily difficult. and it's extraordinarily difficult even. >> given a year. it could be it. >> will be even more difficult in the compressed time frame that house republican leaders have laid out. >> we will be watching and
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big test for three of president trump's most controversial cabinet nominees. wednesday is rfk jr. s confirmation hearing for his hhs secretary, followed by hearings for tulsi gabbard as director of national intelligence and kash patel for fbi director. after friday night's squeaker of a vote for pete hegseth, the white house is putting out a stark warning to senate republicans to get on board or face the consequences. a senior white house official telling nbc news it's pass fail. you either support everyone or you don't. the senate needs to advise and consent, not advise and adjust. joining me now is nbc's ryan nobles on capitol hill and former florida republican congressman carlos curbelo and msnbc political analyst. so, ryan, what are you hearing from republicans on theg hearings? >> well, chris, i think. >> what we saw just play out with pete hegseth is pretty instructive as to how the rest. >> of these. >> cabinet nominees will go in terms of. >> the. >> advise and consent role of the united. states senate. and
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that is that these republicans are going to give the president and the current administration a great deal of deference. >> in. >> picking who he wants for these important posts. and one of the. >> things. >> though, that we do see playing out, and this happened very much during the confirmation process. >> is that. >> there's a lot of hand-wringing behind the scenes. >> there are. >> republican senators who. aren't necessarily. comfortable with. >> the idea of some of these picks and high level cabinet posts, particularly some of the nominees that we see coming down the pike, including robert f kennedy jr. >> robert f kennedy. >> jr. for health and human services, tulsi gabbard is the dni. and of course, kash patel in the fbi. and we do have a republican senator telling my colleagues, garrett haake and salil kapoor that they are concerned from a national security perspective, that these nominees should talk more about the national security issues as if they were traditional republican, not talk like someone who is listening to or is a part of tucker carlson's network. now, that is something that they can say strongly
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behind the scenes. but the reality reality is how are they going to vote when it actually comes to the floor? and the white house, the administration, those close to trump are making it clear to these republican senators that they want all these nominees through, that there is no let's take this one and not take that one. you either have to take them all or we are going to come from you. for you politically, this they. >> this is. >> something that these senators are now going to have to grapple with as this confirmation process plays itself out. are they willing to stand up to donald trump and do so publicly? because what donald trump has made clear that he's not going to do is that he's not going to pull a nominee because of some behind the scenes complaints by senators. they need to stand up and say definitively on the record that they're going to vote no, or he is going to basically call their bluff, chris. >> all right, congressman, one republican senator tells nbc news on the condition of anonymity that republican senators will, quote, only give so much because this is the
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future of the country. it's not entertainment television. but what do you think? how do you see the stage as being set for these hearings this week? >> well. >> chris, i. >> do think that there's a risk for the. >> administration that at least one of these nominees. could not make it. >> we already. >> saw that. now, secretary hegseth came within one vote. >> of not being. >> who do you see as most vulnerable? >> the name that keeps getting mentioned is tulsi gabbard. just because it is such a sensitive position, so critical. >> to national security, which is where we've. >> seen republicans. >> raise objections in in recent weeks. >> and i remind people that republicans, even before president trump took office, did torpedo one of his nominees, matt gaetz, for attorney general. so there are certainly. >> people in. >> the senate republican conference who are willing to buck the president. the calculation is what ryan explained. obviously, trump is
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making a primary threat to anyone who defies him. but senators have to calculate that together with what they think is best for the country. and for some of them, their general elections next year, which the midterm for the party in power always tends to be challenging. and we know that swing voters in a lot. >> of these. >> swing states like to support candidates. >> who are. >> willing to stand up to their own party from time to time. so a lot for these members to. process here. but this week, i think we could see a surprise in terms of 1 or 2 of these nominees not making it. >> well, i thought it was kind of interesting what lindsey graham had to say with kristen welker on meet the press yesterday. let me play that. >> senator, can you say right now, are. >> you a yes on tulsi gabbard? >> i want to see how the hearing goes. i'm inclined to vote. >> yes on. >> everybody, but there are some questions she will be asked that. >> i. >> want. >> to hear the. >> answers to. >> so you're a we'll see. >> not a yes. >> we'll see. >> so i wonder if you think that
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that's a harbinger, or at least a harbinger of what might be to come. i know you already said that she's the one most talked about as possibly being in trouble, but is he somebody who you think kind of tells us where that's headed? >> it's an indication of why this candidacy, this nomination is weak at this point relative to others. lindsey graham is someone. >> who. >> no matter who the president is. to be fair, when there have been democratic presidents, he has shown great deference and approved many nominees that his fellow republicans have not. for him to be saying in this case, i have some concerns, i have some doubts. i'm not willing to just come out and say before the hearing that i'm going to be for this nominee. that is significant. and that also indicates that there are other senators like lindsey graham who have these concerns as well. so i think there's clearly three on the record already who are willing to vote on the floor
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against a nominee. all you need is one more. so tulsi gabbard has to have a really good hearing. >> thank you so much. always good to see you. i'm going to put you on the spot. who do you like for the super bowl? >> oh i listen i already bet against the chiefs yesterday. i'm not going to do it again because i don't want to lose again. so. all right i have you know, kristen welker is actually very. >> upset that actual i won't ask you that. never mind. yeah. >> it's legal in florida now. >> it's legal in florida now. >> so. >> okay. all right. we know who you're betting for, but everybody needs to get ready for that super rematch at the super dome. kansas city is looking to make nfl history with a three peat. in other words, three super bowl victories in a row for the philadelphia eagles. it's a shot at redemption after a crushing super bowl loss against the chiefs just a couple of years ago. and while oddsmakers are taking bets on the winner and taylor swift fans ruminating on what she'll wear,
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