to the reidout. i'm ari melber. joy reid is dealing with some just technical difficulties on the video level. so i'm going to be with you now and doing the news. we have a lot to cover. that was mark greenblatt, the former inspector general at the interior. he's one of the 18 watchdogs, or inspectors general, that trump has fired in this purge. when the white house was asked why they were fired, one official said it was an effort by the president to move past the biden administration that don't align. so that's a statement. but number one, some of these inspectors generals were republicans. some were holdovers from the trump era because biden didn't fire them. that's just a fact. number two, while it is entirely fine for a president to pick certain officials to carry out their agenda, that's, for example, what the cabinet is for. these are explicitly apolitical figures. as a matter of law, they are tasked with investigating wrongdoing regardless of whether anyone thinks it may align or not align with any given goal. and that

would be true for any party. then there's the fact that these firings violate the underlying law, the statute that governs them. now, that might sound like a legal thing. so that's just true. but also in an era where so many people debate everything politically, republican chair chuck grassley said that in reaction, lindsey graham, meanwhile discussing the purge. >> do you think he violated. >> the law? well, technically. >> yeah, but. >> he has the authority to do it. so i'm not, you know. losing a whole lot of sleep that he wants to change the personnel out. >> well, joined by richard painter, university of minnesota law professor, he served as a chief white house ethics lawyer in the bush administration and msnbc analyst matthew dowd. richard, walk us through first what these watchdogs do, what these rules are, and then your view of this development. >> well, first, senator graham. >> is wrong that these are not

just personnel who are appointed to carry. >> out the president's directives. >> the inspectors general have been. >> installed pursuant. >> to an. act of congress as independent watchdogs in the federal agencies. >> and waste, fraud. >> and abuse is what they investigate. >> and if we want to make this government more efficient, which is this so-called doge that elon musk has set up, that's what they. >> say they're. >> going. to do. the first thing we're going to do. >> to make. >> the government more efficient is use. >> the existing. >> apparatus that congress has. >> provided, through. inspectors general, to investigate waste. fraud and abuse. >> and the president has chosen to fire over a dozen inspectors general simply because he's dissatisfied with what happened in his first administration, when. inspectors general blew the whistle on his quid pro. >> quo. >> with ukraine. >> his attempt to extort the ukrainian. >> government in return. for

arms assistance, to. >> extort an investigation of joe biden and hunter biden. so what he's doing is. preemptively firing inspectors general. >> he has the constitutional power. >> to do. >> that, because the. supreme court has. >> upheld the. >> president's power. >> to do that. >> but there is a 30 day warning. notice that congress. >> must be given. before the inspector general is fired. >> the president. >> did not do that. >> and i've. >> never seen a. >> president fire this. >> many. inspectors general. >> i believe president obama only. >> fired one. >> inspector general. he believed four caused one. >> inspector general. >> in the entire eight years. >> of his administration. now. >> we've had over a dozen inspectors. >> general fired. >> in the first week. >> this does not bode. >> well for the next four years. >> matthew. >> well, you know, i i'll let you two experts. >> know in the law and all of that. i mean. >> to me, i think this. >> says. >> something more about us as a country. >> what's going on? i mean.

>> i think i think he's going to be able to do this, and i don't think he's going to suffer any repercussions from the people that voted for him until something actually happens in their lives that changes their lives because of some action of his. >> i think that's. >> the difficult spot we're in. i mean, i think trump's going to continue to do these things. i think arguing about whether or not this has been done before, i. don't think matters to people. i think saying that he violates norms. >> i don't. >> think matters to people. i think we're in that space, that time and space where the only protection i think the american public. has is either one through the legal system. and i have my doubts about that. and as it finally gets to the supreme court. but two. is how do people protect themselves through any ramifications that these things can have? and i think that's the spot we're in. we are at a time in a country where a majority of the country, or at least a plurality of the country, ari doesn't seem to care right now that he violates norms and does these kind of things.

>> right. i mean, if you make an analogy to business, people also don't follow and care whether their insurance company or their financial provider. their bank has the right controls, right? internal monitor. i mean, most people don't make themselves experts on these things. they cared a lot in the financial crash, to your point. and so it's not so much in the in the process, but more in the breach that we see it. i think we have and can put on the screen the government contractors, which start to the tune of tens of billions of dollars, lockheed rtx, general dynamics, boeing of course, these are some of the spend that goes on. and traditionally the watchdogs were there to make sure that taxpayers aren't being ripped off or worse. so how does that fit into what some might call a traditional or old school

conservative view? that's why chuck grassley spent really his career advocating for exactly these watchdogs. and he's flat footed, i guess this week, watching his party shred his one of his life's mission. >> well, ari, i know you've had this conversation on various times on your show a number of times is, i think, the sort of spectrum of conservative or liberal is no longer applicable in america today, because what donald trump is and how he got elected, he didn't get elected as a principled conservative. his voters didn't vote for him because he was a principled conservative. and i think that spectrum is no longer no longer applies. and i think we're in a situation now. is somebody going to hold donald trump accountable? is somebody going to hold donald trump? and will donald trump be allowed to do whatever he wants to do? and until people like chuck grassley or lindsey graham and i know they often, you know, mince, you know, shrug their shoulders or furrow their brow and say, i don't like the way this is going

on. they have not put yet, as of yet, an impediment in donald trump's way to hold them accountable. and that's really take out conservative take out liberal. can this president, united states be held accountable by the republican party? and they don't seem to want to. >> yeah. >> and as you say, part of this is the ebb and flow. this would be the honeymoon for any newly elected president. that's that's why they call it a honeymoon. that's why there's 100 days. richard, you worked for a very different republican administration. but they took their knocks, as did biden. biden left office, you know, far, with far less excitement and support than those first few weeks that he came in on. so one, one piece is, what are you doing with that capital? donald trump pardoning and freeing convicts who attacked police, gutting these ethics programs. you know, that's what he's doing with it. but but, richard, it's not a surprise that you come in off a off an election. and he got won by one and a half.

you're going to have some some wind at your back in terms of where politics and ethics meet. richard, here's what senator schatz said. he argues, quote, the story of this first week is corruption. billionaires at the inaugural stage, crypto pump and dump. just referring to the, you know, wolf of wall street style scamming illegal firing of the ig is the story we're discussing now. quote the media is acting like this is too chaotic to interpret. they're afraid of sounding shrill. it's corrupt. richard, separate from your your criticisms of donald trump's policies, is senator schatz correct? from a legal ethics view, is that overstated? your thoughts? >> well, i'm very concerned. >> that we. have unrestrained conflicts of. interest in this government, and firing the inspector general is going to make the problem that much worse. >> look at the crypto. >> situation, for example. we have an unregulated market with inflated prices for many crypto

coins. we have known fraud. we should have learned that. >> from the. >> ftx debacle. >> and bankman-fried. >> but no, the president has put out issued an executive order just this. week on cryptocurrency. but guess what? the president of the united states himself is issuing a crypto coin, as is the first lady. the president is backing other crypto coins that are exploding in market value. this could very well be an unregulated bubble. what is unregulated? it could be a bubble that bursts. we saw this with securities based swap agreements and other financial derivatives that were not properly regulated throughout the clinton administration and then the bush administration. and now we have another unregulated sector of the economy with potentially over $1 trillion of market capitalization in the cryptocurrency. it's not being regulated. the securities exchange commission. >> doesn't have a handle. >> on it. we could. end up. with

another financial crisis in this. >> country. >> but this time around, we're going to have the politicians, including potentially the president of the united states, pumping up this market and then selling out at the top. and then the american people are left with an economic disaster. and the reason i'm speaking about this now is we need to confront these problems. this isn't just an ethics problem, but if the economy is not regulated soundly, we have learned from the past from many, many experiences with pump and dump and crashes before in the economy that everything could come crashing down. >> important warnings. and that affects people directly, for sure. richard painter and matthew dowd, thank you very much. i have been basically filling in, stretching into the 7 p.m. hour because we were dealing with some technical issues. and i have a good news update on the technical front. joy reid's camera is set. she's up and running. so we've been doing a teammate thing. i've been helping out. but she joins

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something. thank you so much, ari. for filling in. so let me begin with a. >> classic quiz show. >> it was called what's my line? and it aired on cbs during the late 1950s and early 1960s. now, the gimmick for the show was for a celebrity panel to try to guess the profession of a mystery guest. the panel for the january 19th, 1964 episode included actress arlene francis, comedian steve allen, columnist dorothy kilgallen, known as the voice of broadway, and bennett cerf, the co-founder of. >> random house publishing. >> the host, journalist john charles daly, was previously best known as the first national correspondent to report on the pearl harbor attack and the death of franklin d roosevelt.

the first mystery guest signed in as jerry whittington from west river, maryland. >> is it. >> miss or. >> mrs. whittington, miss smith. >> miss whittington. >> where are you from? >> west river, maryland. >> west river, maryland. that's nice to have you with. >> us. >> miss. >> whittington, may i present our panelists now, would you join me over here, please? and we'll let. >> the audience. >> in the theater and the audience at home know exactly what your line is. okay. >> so it turns out president lyndon johnson had arranged for miss whittington to appear on the show rather than. >> announce her. >> hiring by. a press conference. he knew. >> that the hire. >> would be controversial. geraldine jerry whittington was the first black woman to work in a non-domestic job in the white house. she got hired as lbj's personal secretary when, after the assassination of president

kennedy, the new president wanted a fresh pool of secretaries in the white house. he reportedly saw miss whittington working in another government office and asked his aide, jack valenti, to track down her number. here's part of the phone call recorded by johnson, of him calling miss whittington to offer her the job. >> mrs. whittington. >> just a minute. are you. >> jerry? >> hello. >> where are you? >> i'm at home. who's this? >> this is the president. >> oh. >> what are you doing? >> oh, i think someone's. >> playing with me. no, no, you know i won't. >> talk to. >> you about. >> our work, honey. >> will you? at home? >> oh. >> yes, i am. >> are you busy? no i'm not. >> can you come down here immediately? >> oh, i'll be glad. >> to come on down. >> i've got. >> jack valenti here, and. >> we want to talk to you. >> about. >> a little reassignment. >> okay? i love that. at first, she did not believe that it was the president calling. according

to his biographers, johnson specifically wanted to hire a black woman. >> as. >> his personal secretary to send a message to the racist segregationists in his southern democratic party. hiring her was a nod to diversity, inclusion and economic opportunity at the time miss whittington was hired. this is what johnson's cabinet looked like. note the many varieties of white guy. that's also what most of the federal workforce looked like, particularly after a previous democratic president, woodrow wilson, formally segregated the civil service in 1913, wilson and his cabinet exiled black postal workers to the dead letter office, where they couldn't be seen by the public. they created segregated workspaces and even required federal job applicants to affix a photo of themselves to their applications to make it easier to discriminate. fast forward to lbj, who, after kennedy's assassination was under pressure from doctor king and the civil rights movement, was pushing. congress to pass the civil rights act of 1964, the voting

rights act in 1965, and a 1968 law to open up immigration to people from nonwhite countries. jerry whittington was a message. she was also the first person johnson told that he was nominating thurgood marshall to be the first black supreme court justice. she and justice marshall happened to have died on the same day in 1993, but here she is featured inside jet magazine. but lbj wasn't done. >> you do not take. >> a person. >> who for years. >> has been. hobbled by. >> chains and liberate him, bringing up to. >> the starting line of a. race and. >> then say you are free to. >> compete with. >> all the others. >> and still justly believe that you have. >> been. >> completely fair. thus, it is not enough just to open. the

gates of opportunity. all our. >> citizens must have the. >> ability to walk. >> through those gates. >> and this is. >> the next. >> and the more profound. >> stage of the battle for civil rights. we seek not just freedom, but opportunity. we seek not just legal equity, but human ability. not just equality as a right and a theory, but equality as a fact. and equality as a result. >> that was lyndon johnson announcing during a june 1965 commencement address at howard university, his plan to take direct aim at economic inequality. in september of that year, he signed executive order

11246, which barred discriminatory hiring practices by federal agencies, federal contractors or subcontractors, and even after it was narrowed to include just the contractors and subcontractors, the order literally changed the federal workforce as subsequent presidents, republican and democrat, continue to enforce it. bill clinton in particular, today, about 19% of federal workers are black. in a country that's about 11% black, and about 60% of the federal workforce is white. in a population that's about 59% white. desegregating federal employment literally built the black middle class in states like virginia, maryland, and the district of columbia. black postal workers became a bedrock of the black middle class. nationwide, there have been thousands and thousands of jerry whittington's, which is probably why the civil service is a prime target of the right wing heritage foundation. its project 2025 playbook, and almost

obsessively, anti-black figures like stephen miller, who seems in many ways to be running the trump government. if obnoxious performative proclamations like ending the commemoration of black history month and mlk day in federal agencies, and no longer teaching about the tuskegee airmen in the naval academy, which they retracted, or any indication. but if you look deeper into what this second trump administration is doing, not just the provocative stuff that they're saying, it sure seems like something else is going on. i think to understand it, you first have to realize that federal contracting is the single biggest source of wealth in america. it's a nearly trillion dollar pot of tax money each year spent with private companies. getting federal contracts is literally how companies and their founders and ceos become super rich. think spacex, owned by elon musk and blue origin, owned by jeff bezos or unitedhealthcare. all are among the biggest federal

contractors in the us, though nothing is bigger and eats up more of our tax money than defense contractors. and with tom homan and stephen miller's twisted kick in the schoolhouse, restaurant and church doors and drag undocumented people into military planes after demanding their papers. apartheid south africa style plan well underway in blue cities like chicago, illinois, and newark, new jersey. private prison stocks are soaring. they're poised to see a boom in federal contracts with the trump regime, and bezos and elon and mark zuckerberg and peter thiel and the rest of the tech oligarch. bros and bitcoin bros are surely preparing to belly up to the trump teat to suck out even more federal contracts, which explains why elon and fellow tech bro. sam altman are currently catfighting over the new ai regulations that trump kakistocracy are cobbling together with executive orders that some eagle eyed legal journalists have spotted seem to

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might recall since he was one of the defense lawyers in the new york hush money trial that made trump a felon, demanded those raids over the weekend, calling them a critical mission to take back our communities, presumably from criminals. oh, irony, how you mock us kids. choice language. indeed, given that the leaders of the navajo nation are raising alarms over reports of literal native americans being questioned and detained during immigration sweeps by the militarized police of their colonizers? you know, i'll bet there are a few people that the navajo would like to deport. for those tracking, it's not likely these are isolated incidents and exclusive nbc report out tonight found that nearly half of those detained on sunday do not, i repeat, do not have criminal records. it's also worth noting that despite all the televised drama, the actual number of people being deported has not yet exceeded the threshold of daily deportations under the biden administration. in fact, the mexican president stressed

today, what is different is the way that the trump administration is broadcasting, celebrating and most notably, increasingly using military planes to remove people. make no mistake, the military facilitating immigration enforcement are the pictures they want us, and especially fox viewers to see. and they are doubling down on it. texas governor greg abbott earlier today announced that his state is sending an additional 400 members of the texas national guard to the southern border. and defense secretary and former fox tv host pete hegseth, thankfully seemingly quite sober on his first day on the job, said the department of defense will provide whatever is needed at the border. thanks, pete. you're doing great. these images of people who dared to try for the american dream, only to be shipped back to their home countries, handcuffed on military planes, do absolutely nothing to reform immigration. they do show deportations that cost u.s. taxpayers a lot more than using commercial flights. and they make america look like a human rights violator. with

brazil among the first to condemn the, quote, blatant disrespect of deportees coming home in shackles. colombia's president, gustavo petro, is objecting to the use of military military flights in a now settled dispute that showed that trump is willing to threaten tariffs whose financial burden falls on everyday american consumers as a means to remake america in his image. joining me now is the mayor of newark, new jersey, ras baraka. mayor baraka, thank you so much for being here. you know, the nbc news reporting that some of those being deported are not criminals at all. but it goes even further in your city. because i understand at least one military veteran who is a citizen was deported in newark. what's going on in your city? >> that's right. homeland security and ice are walking around the city. obviously, they raided a store. they're going to continue to do that, obviously. and they detained three folks who were undocumented, but they also stopped, questioned, took

the id of a military vet, told them that the id. >> was in fact fake. >> held people in the store outside of their will. a few of them were actually puerto rican. they were not even, you know, these people were actually citizens of the united states. this is getting more. bizarre by the day. violating people's fourth amendment rights is something that we are taking umbrage with, and we are speaking out against because we believe if you allow this to happen, it's a slippery slope. and before you know it, all of our rights will be will be being violated in the middle of the street here. >> in the. >> city of newark. >> it is absolutely racial profiling right there, going up to anyone who has an accent to them. that sounds spanish right there going, i mean, i talked to a friend who is pakistani american over the weekend who now travels with her green card, because if you just look at her visually, she could look hispanic. like anyone who even seems hispanic, including indigenous people. but i want to go back and zero in on what you said there. you said they went into a restaurant, right? a

workplace. so the theory among trump supporters is that these people need to be deported because they're using up welfare, that they're living on the government. how can they be living on the government and using up welfare if they're at work? >> well, you know, in new jersey, these people contribute almost over $1 billion to state and local taxes. these folks work. they buy goods and services, they contribute to the economy. they're our neighbors, our partners here in the city of newark. you know, a reporter asked me, what do we feel about immigrants? how do newarkers feel? and i said, well, i don't know if people even can determine who's an immigrant or not, who's who's undocumented or not. there's so many communities in our city is so diverse. you know, we even have ukrainians that are coming in who are who are in fact not being stopped and questioned, but people, as you say, black and brown folks that are being stopped and questioned asked for their id, their papers violating their constitutional rights. this is completely insane.

>> yeah. and i want to note that, you know, we've had on folks from ireland who are wonderful supporters of civil rights in the united states, and they will say openly that irish folks are among the largest group of undocumented in the united states, have white people who might have what sounds like a british or irish accent been stopped in the city of newark? >> well. >> no. >> i think i mean, first of all, we don't have a lot of those folks in newark. i just think the criminalization of immigrants and migrants have been chiefly black and brown folks. this idea that there's a criminal crime wave of immigrants and migrants is just a lie. it's just not true. i heard the guy that's now the border czar say that these sanctuary cities are high in violent crime, which is not true. newark has a 61% decrease in violent crime in our city. so to say that is just false, right? it's just a veil to come into our city and violate people's rights.

>> and violate them while rolling cameras with doctor phil there because they're doing it for show, just to terrify black and brown folks and pretend that we're in apartheid south africa, which maybe some of them want to be in newark, new jersey. mayor ras baraka, thank you sir. thank you very much. and thank you for sharing what your city is going through. let's bring in chicago immigration attorney catherine del rosario, executive director and co-founder of alliance for immigrant neighbors. i want to zero in on that, because what the mayor has made clear is, number one, these ice raids are taking place in workplaces, which means these are working people, not people committing crimes on the street. what do you make of what really sounds to me like 1980s and previous era south africa tactics and straight up racial profiling. is this even legal? >> it's not. >> and i think it. speaks to what. >> this administration. >> is willing to. >> do with their agenda. >> and demonizing immigrants. it's well. documented that they are okay with criminalizing

whole groups. >> of people. tom homan has said. >> that those. >> who entered this country illegally. >> are criminals. >> and. >> that's literally not true. immigration violations are civil violations. >> they're not criminal. >> and it's. >> clear, though, that by. >> how. >> they've acted, how they're going. >> to. >> treat these continued raids. >> i want to note that the washington post is reporting that trump officials have issued quotas to ice officers to ramp up arrests. they want minimum numbers. so they're working on a quota system. like if they do believe in quotas when it comes to this, the forced deportation flights had an average of just 80 migrants on military flights that cost up to $852,000 per trip. so they are wasting the money of the american people. and i also just want to note for our audience, if you look at the countries with the largest unauthorized immigrant populations, it is el salvador, india, guatemala and honduras. indian officials are now concerned that they might be targeted as well. it does seem

to me to be very open racial profiling and an attempt to terrify brown and black people. is it? should people be walking around with their passports? because that definitely feels like south, like old south africa. what should people be doing to protect themselves? do you have to talk to an ice officer? if they confront, you can tell us about what people's rights actually are. >> i mean, i think no matter what, people need to be prepared, they should have a safety plan. >> so whether that means carrying copies. >> of their immigration documents, their emergency. >> contacts, their attorneys. >> numbers, and. >> having that same set of. >> documents with a trusted teacher or loved one, they need to be prepared to have those documents on them. they do not need to talk to ice. they don't need to answer questions. they don't need to let. >> an ice. >> officer in without a judicial warrant. and what. >> we're. >> seeing, though. is that agents. are acting, forcing themselves in without the proper documentation. and it's created an atmosphere of utter fear in

this city. there are hundreds of reported of. calls coming in to organizations like the illinois coalition of immigrant and refugee rights. >> we are our team. >> is getting calls from people, teenagers worried about themselves and their parents and their ability to stay in the country. and some of them have status. they are just that scared. so the waste that they're putting into these flights, i think to them it's not going to waste because it's putting so much fear into our communities. and it's, it's palpable. one of those reported arrests was in my on my own block on the northwest side of the city. so i'm concerned about my own neighbors as well. >> as well. you should be. the conference of catholic bishops has put out a statement saying human dignity is not dependent on a person's citizenship or immigration status. all people have a right to fulfill their duty to god without fear, turning places of care, healing and solace into places of fear and uncertainty for those in

need, while endangering the trust between pastors, providers, educators and the people they serve will not make our communities safer. so the catholic church, at least, is coming out on the right side of history. i will note rolling stone is reporting that trump plan is to deport migrants, including venezuelan gang members, to el salvador. not that that government will openly accept it. if one is a puerto rican or a native american from the navajo nation or any other indigenous nation or hopi nation member, can't they sue if they are racially harassed? which is, i think, the only name for it by ice. isn't there a class action lawsuit here waiting to happen by people who are actual citizens, who are being racially profiled? >> i can't speak to that, but i know that some of the. series of executive orders that are being put forth are truly attacking like the fabric of our constitution, namely this this attack on birthright citizenship, which will create problems for native born

americans, including native americans, that if racially profiled and questioned about their ancestry, have, you know, they we continue to see that these efforts being put forth by the administration are blatantly unconstitutional. >> yeah, it's giving 1930s. not >> yeah, it's giving 1930s. not in a good way. katherine del tap into etsy for home and style staples to help you set any vibe. from custom lighting under 150 dollars to vintage jackets under 100. for affordable pieces to help you make a fresh start, etsy has it. with dexcom g7, managing your diabetes just got easier. so, what's your glucose number right now? good thing you don't need to fingerstick. how's all that food affect your glucose? oh, the answers on your phone. what if you're heading low at night? [phone beeps] wow, it can alert you?! and you can even track your goals.

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>> settle in the rachel maddow show weeknights at nine on msnbc. >> as the ceasefire between israel and hamas enters its second week, new video shows the remarkable scenes in gaza today as hundreds of thousands of displaced palestinians begin returning home to what's left of northern gaza for the first time in 15 months. but it comes as, over the weekend, donald trump suggested moving more than a million palestinians out of gaza and into neighboring countries to, quote, clean out the gaza strip. >> i'd like. >> egypt to. >> take people and i'd. >> like jordan. >> to. take people. i could you're talking about probably every year and a half people. and we just clean out that whole

thing. >> joining me now is peter beinart, editor at large of jewish currents, msnbc political analyst and author of the new book, being jewish after the destruction of gaza a reckoning, which comes out tomorrow. and i look forward to reading your book, peter. i was stunned by the associated press reporting of the quote that we just heard donald trump saying in sound, and they did not use the term ethnic cleansing in the associated press report. but what he described is ethnic cleansing, right? >> absolutely. >> i'm glad. >> it's on tape. >> so that. >> you know, hopefully one day, if donald trump is. >> before the. >> hague on some kind of international criminal tribunal, this can be played. this would be one of the great acts of one of the great war crimes, one of the great human rights abuses of our time. >> and the logic is so. >> insane and depraved. right. gaza has been destroyed. >> with american weapons. >> right. >> and rather than.

>> say that maybe. >> we should. >> stop sending those weapons, that we should rebuild gaza, that we should look at the basic reality that palestinians lack human freedom, or instead of saying that. >> maybe palestinians. >> if they have to leave gaza, should be. >> able to. >> go back to the places they're from because most of their families were expelled from israel. >> his solution. >> after the. >> united states has helped israel. >> lay waste. >> to gaza, is that. >> those people should be. >> forced to leave and never allowed to return. >> yeah. and this is, as his son in law last year in 2024, talked about gaza being great beachfront property. and he's also holding $2 billion worth of saudi money. if he wanted to become a real estate developer. let me quote, and i will note to your point that you just made peter. donald trump, the other thing he did is he lifted the pause on 2,000 pound bombs. biden only let him get the 1,500 pound bombs he had lifted. he had banned the 200 0 pound ones. he also ordered a halt to virtually all foreign aid except israel and egypt. so that's for those who voted for trump as the preferable candidate for palestinian freedom. here is the reaction of. bella smotrich and

itamar ben gvir. while the israeli prime minister's office has yet to respond to nbc news request for comment regarding trump's remarks, the president's sentiments were welcomed by ultra nationalist israeli politicians, including the aforementioned smotrich and ben-gvir. smotrich called the idea of finding new homes for gaza residents wonderful. telling israeli broadcaster channel 12 on sunday that only out of the box thinking and new solutions will bring peace and security. ben-gvir congratulated trump on his initiative on a post on x twitter. so the two people who the icc views as potentially war criminals as well, or at least supporting it, they love this idea, right? >> and it was actually. >> reporting from early. >> not long after october. >> 7th, that benjamin netanyahu himself was trying to get egypt to open the border so that there would be. >> a mass forcing. >> of palestinians out of. gaza and they would not be allowed to return. i mean, israel has never allowed. >> palestinian refugees who were. >> expelled to return, so there's no reason to believe it would allow them to now. right? >> this is. >> utterly monstrous. >> utterly depraved, and.

>> just a. >> sign of how profoundly racist and dehumanizing the american public discourse, especially in the republican party, is about palestinians, as if they're not. >> human beings who. >> have who are deserving of equal. >> dignity. >> to all the rest. >> of us. >> yeah. you wrote a piece. i want to change course just a little bit. you wrote a piece, and i actually watched the video of you discussing it on your substack. and it's a controversial title because it gets to a thing that people always talk about. and you wrote states don't have a right to exist. people do. because a question that people will come right back to if anyone criticizes the israeli government, no matter what they do, is does israel have a right to exist? and you say that states do not. please explain. >> in jewish. >> tradition, we believe that. >> only human. beings are created in the. >> image of god and have infinite value. >> states are merely instruments. >> they are mechanisms for the protection. >> of human life. and so. >> if states fail radically. >> at protecting human life. >> then state should. >> be reformed, reimagined to do

a better job, right? that's what happened in apartheid south africa. that's what many of us would like to happen with iran. there are many, many states that we would like. >> to be reimagined. >> so they treat their people better. so when. >> people always say israel has. >> a. >> right to exist, what they're not. >> what they're essentially saying is. its right to exist trumps the right. the right to exist. >> of all of the. >> people under. >> its. >> control. half of whom are palestinian. >> that inverts. >> actually the way jewish tradition thinks about what fundamentally matters. >> you know, it's interesting because the many, many jewish supporters of palestinian humanity try to make that point all the time, and even they get demonized by people like benjamin netanyahu. peter beinart, thank you. thank you so much. that is tonight's reidout inside with jen psaki starts now.

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