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confrontational and divisive as the. >> first. >> even if not. >> more so. >> trump's tariffs. against canada, mexico. >> and. >> china are set to go into effect today. economists warn they could significantly. raise prices. >> for american consumers. we also. >> learned last night. >> the trump administration. >> is planning. a purge of fbi agents who investigated january 6th. six senior officials have. >> already been. >> forced out, and thousands. >> of others. >> of others. >> are under review. we have new details about that this evening, about how far the acting fbi director was willing to go to resist the latest firings. and at the faa. trump is using the worst us air disaster. >> in. >> over 20 years to justify an all out assault on diversity. >> programs.

>> even though not a shred of evidence has been found to tie the tragedy to die. we'll be talking about all of it tonight. plus, on this, the first day of black history month, i'm convening a special civil rights summit where leaders in the movement talk about how to fight for our rights in the age of trump, 2.0. we begin tonight with representative debbie wasserman schultz, democrat of florida. congresswoman, thanks for joining us. >> thanks. as always, for having us. >> now let's start with trump's targeting of january 6th. investigators and prosecutors. we have new information tonight that acting fbi director or the director acting is brian driscoll. on friday refused the justice department order that he assist in firing of agents involved in january 6th riot

cases pushing back so forcefully that some fbi officials feel he would be dismissed. the people convicted of storming the capitol, including those who assaulted police officers, have been set free by this president. those who worked on behalf of the american people to bring the capitol rioters to justice are being punished for it. i mean, what kind of law and order is this? >> this is. >> saturday night massacre. >> massacre level injustice. >> reverend al. >> to have career prosecutors, career fbi agents who were really doing. the patriot their patriotic duty. >> making sure that they could protect our system of justice or. >> protect our democracy. >> hold accountable those that tried to overturn an election by storming. the capitol, who beat police officers senseless, who caused the deaths of capitol police officers and metro police

officers who were protecting. >> our temple of democracy. >> as a result of. >> them simply working on a case they were assigned to work on. >> that means. >> they're going to lose their jobs. i mean, this purge, this. this massacre. >> is illegal. and. >> what's troubling is that there is a really significant challenge that these folks will face in trying to challenge. their firing. he's trying to. >> put so much. up on the. >> wall that resistance is very difficult. >> now let's go to tariffs, which the white house has said will start today. the president has said there is nothing canada, mexico or china could do to stop this first round of tariffs, even though experts say the american people will pay the price in the form of higher costs for goods like cars, electronics and produce. voters

told us repeatedly during the campaign they want this president to bring down inflation and create jobs. does these tariffs achieve any of these goals? >> no. >> these tariffs. >> do exactly the opposite of what he lied about on the campaign trail to lure people. >> into voting. >> for him. when he said that he was going to. prioritize policies that will. >> bring down people's. kitchen table costs. >> tariffs do the opposite. when modelo beer goes. >> up in price, american. >> beer. >> goes up in price. >> when? when produce from china from. from canada and. mexico goes. >> up in price. american produce is going to go up. >> in price. this is going to hurt workers who are going to have their their bosses bottom line pinched. and as a result their own bottom. line pinched. >> donald trump lied. >> he is now doing the opposite

of what he said he would do. and if you look across the board of all of his policies that he is prioritizing in the first couple of weeks, none of them. move any in any direction towards bringing down people's kitchen table costs. and in fact, this one, this one flies in the face of that promise and does the opposite. people are going to feel the pain. >> now, congresswoman, we've been following the latest on that tragic mid-air collision between a commercial jet and a black hawk helicopter near reagan national in on wednesday in washington. the ntsb will be holding a briefing in about an hour. msnbc will bring you that when it happens, but without evidence, president trump is blaming the incident on dei, including hiring guidelines for people with disabilities that, according to the washington post, were put into place by the first trump administration. what

has been your reaction to see our commander in chief play politics with the crash? while 67 people are believed to have lost their lives? >> reverend al. >> and i have. >> been out in my community this week. in the district. >> people are revolted by president. >> trump's reaction to what is a devastating event. this plane crash especially happened in our nation's capital. >> right in the backyard of the white house, essentially. >> he should, first. >> of all. >> be reassuring the flying public that flying in the united states is safe. secondly, he should be using this moment to unify the country. instead. the devastated families whose loved ones bodies weren't even out of the potomac, right? he levies this outrageous, ridiculous criticism and accusation. he doesn't have a clue what the cause of this, of this crash

was. and, you know, i'm thankful that chairman graves, the republican chairman in the house of the transportation infrastructure committee. thankfully, he said unequivocally that dei. policies had nothing to do with this crash. and we have to let the ntsb do its work. that's what he should have said. but he always needs to try to find a victim, and he needs to. and he blames everything on diversity and inclusion policies. and it's just disgusting. >> no. >> and even as one that has fought him for decades, it was a new low. the bodies had not even been recovered. and he's on television casting aspersions and imagine the chilling effect it has on black pilots and brown pilots and women that people. air travelers are now going to be looking and saying, is that a di hire? should i get on the plane? i mean, it's repulsive, but finally, i mean. >> he should have. >> said, finally, let me go to this. i'm out of time. but i have to ask you, this afternoon,

democrats elected ken martin, head of the party in minnesota, to be the next chair of the national democratic party. you served as dnc chair from 2011 to 2016. what role would you like to see the new chair play as we move ahead into this new trump term? >> well, ken. >> martin was the most experienced candidate. he was the chair of the chairs, the association of state democratic chairs. and his vision that he laid out was very clear that the dnc needed needs to make sure that we're building towards grassroots operations on the ground, that we need to make sure that. >> we are. building up from. from the bottom. >> up, not the top down. we need to make sure that we invest resources in winning the house back, because trump's policies are going to drive people to vote, to make sure we have divided government, and. >> we. >> can have a least one chamber of commerce to push back. so i think ken martin's going to do a great job. i loved working with

him when i was chair, and i look forward to bringing the band together to make sure that we can make some. progress and actually bring people's prices down and actually have fair immigration policy and give the voters the contrast that will be necessary for those for us to achieve those things. >> all right. thank you for being with us this evening. congresswoman debbie wasserman schultz. as president trump makes unprecedented policy moves in the first days of his second term, democratic attorney generals are on the front lines of pushing back on his most controversial actions. joining me now is colorado attorney general phil weiser. thanks for joining us, attorney general. you are one of 18 ags that filed suit against president trump's executive order banning birthright citizenship the day after inauguration. why was it so important to challenge this order right away?

>> reverend al, there's. >> a few things here that are really important. first, it's about people. i am a first generation american. my mom, my grandparents survived the holocaust. we're welcomed here now. they were naturalized before i was born, but had they not been, i would have been a birthright citizen. people in colorado who are birthright citizens deserve to know you are a real american. this is a nation of immigrants. we are inclusive. that's a value embodied in our constitution. and second, the principle here is the president is not a king. the president can't override the constitution with an executive order. the judge in this case, who has already ruled, had the following to say in 40 years of judging, this is the most unconstitutional thing he's ever seen. this is a reagan appointee. we need to make sure we defend the constitution and the rule of law and our american way of life. that's why this case is so important. >> staying with it with

immigration, ice has reportedly delayed raids they said they were planning next week in aurora, colorado, citing leaks to the media. during the campaign, trump claimed venezuelan gangs had taken over apartment complexes in the denver suburb, a story city leaders have said have been greatly exaggerated. are you confident this administration will coordinate legally with state and local officials as yourself on their immigrant enforcement operations? and what happens if they do not? >> reverend al. >> i believe in keeping hope alive and being optimistic, hoping for the best and preparing for the worst. hoping for the best means we work together in responsible ways. that when the law is saying one thing, we follow the law. if people are on a wait list to be removed, if they've committed dangerous crimes and are

eligible for removal, that type of cooperation is the norm and is consistent with the rule of law. but if you round up people indiscriminately, including dreamers, even us citizens, people married to citizens, grandma, you do such damage to our communities, to our workplaces and to families. it's wrong. it doesn't follow the rule of law. we can't allow it. so we're going to have to see. reverend, i'll. say there's. a uncomfortable fact on the ground. i've had to, in two weeks, file two lawsuits to uphold the constitution. if this raid happens in a way that is illegal, violates what lawyers call due process of law, following the rules, treating people fairly. that would be a third case. i'd have to file. >> reproductive rights are likely to be another flashpoint between this new administration and the states. i want to play you some comments from trump's pick to health secretary robert f kennedy jr. speaking about the

abortion pill during his confirmation hearing this week. take a listen. >> president trump has made. >> it clear to me. >> that one. >> of the things. >> he has not taken a. >> position yet on mifepristone. >> he a. >> detailed position, but. >> he's made it clear to me that he. >> wants me to look. at safety issues. >> and i'll. >> ask nih. >> and fda. >> to do that. >> if this administration moves to limit access to the abortion pill, how can states like yours push back? >> reverend al, we're actually already in litigation, which we brought against the biden administration because the current restrictions on mifepristone are too limiting. this is a pill that's been used for decades. it is proven to be safe. and the extra restrictions currently in place, we believe, are unnecessary. the idea that you would take it off the market is ridiculous. there's no scientific basis for it. two thirds of abortions in colorado

rely on this medication. if you want to upend our system of reproductive health care, this would be a painful who does that? and president trump said he believes that abortion rights should be left to the states. in colorado. we just put it in our state constitution with 60 plus percent of coloradans in favor of it. it would be wrong to take it off the market. it wouldn't be based on science, and it would go right against the commitment of president trump's campaign that abortion rights are up to the states. >> now, you are reportedly requesting over $600,000 in additional funding for three new attorneys to help with litigation related to the new administration. are you confident the resources and political will is there to support your office in these efforts? and are you concerned about acts of retribution from this president in response to legal challenges?

>> reverend al, i'll start with your last point. i'm concerned about the rule of law. i'm concerned that this administration doesn't seem to respect the basic rules of the road. when that case i mentioned involving birthright citizenship came before the federal judge, he asked the question, where are the lawyers? we need lawyers to make sure that government follows the rule of law, follows the rules, treats people fairly. the reason i'm having to hire more lawyers here in colorado is we're really concerned about what's going to happen. the first couple of weeks have shown those concerns to be founded. i want to be working with the federal government on areas of joint concern, just like representative wasserman schultz talked about. how do we make life more affordable? we've been working on important antitrust cases, consumer protections. we need more housing in colorado. that's what we should be talking about, not trying to overturn the constitution and its guarantee of birthright citizenship. we're trying to halt funding that's mandated by congress. so we're again, getting ready for the worst. we have to build our team because

we've seen what's coming. colorado believes in how do we work together to make life better for everybody? that's what i'll keep focusing on as attorney general. >> colorado attorney general phil weiser, thank you for being with us this week. some of trump's most confrontational cabinet nominees took tough questions at their confirmation hearings. but will any republican senator have the courage to reject any of them? that's next. >> let your feet take you wherever your spirit wants to go. the redesigned hurricane helps you navigate any surface helps you navigate any surface so it truly stands alice loves the scent of gain so much, she wished there was a way to make it last longer. say hello to your fairy godmother alice, and long-lasting gain scent beads. part of the irresistible scent collection from gain.

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imports will face a 10% tariff. the orders also include a retaliation clause promising further action if those countries respond with tariffs on their own. meantime, it's been a busy week on capitol hill as several of trump's most controversial cabinet nominees appeared before the senate for their confirmation hearings. so far, the new administration has faced little resistance from republicans on his staffing pick. however, selections like kash patel for the head of the fbi, robert f kennedy jr for health secretary, and tulsi gabbard for the director of national intelligence, could test gop party unity. joining me to discuss it all is my political panel. former senator doug jones, democrat of alabama and former representative carlos curbelo, republican of florida.

thank you both for joining us. so let's start with these senate confirmations. doug, are any of these nominees in danger of being rejected? >> you know. >> i think they're all in danger. how much. >> danger remains to be seen? >> i think. >> that the general consensus. >> is they're likely to get through. but at the same time, you've got to have. republican senators. who are very, very uncomfortable. >> with each of those nominees. >> each of those nominees, in their own. >> way. >> represent folks that are unqualified. some, i would even say should be disqualified. and you can only go down the list. we don't have time. to rehash all the hearings, but each one of them have serious problems and i think each one will come. it's republican senators. different senators will look at these differently. >> for instance. >> i think senator cassidy should have really serious problems. you could tell he was

uncomfortable in the way. >> that he was questioning. >> but tulsi gabbard, republicans kept throwing her a lifeline after lifeline to get her to say that edward snowden, in fact, hurt national security, and she refused to do it. she just kind of doubled down. so all of these nominees have got to give these folks some heartburn, whether or not they will be loyal to the to their oath or to the president remains to be seen. >> carlos, are any of them endangering your judgment? >> i do. >> think. >> that tulsi. >> gabbard is probably. >> in greatest. >> danger when you think about the three senators who. >> voted against pete hegseth. >> mcconnell. >> murkowski and collins. >> i really don't see how gabbard gets. >> any of those three. >> and then we have. >> other senators, like james lankford, who has publicly expressed concerns about gabbard. >> so i. >> think she is going. >> to have a tough time getting confirmed. and i don't think the other. >> two. >> patel and. >> kennedy, are. >> shoo ins either.

>> we did. >> see that senate republicans with the matt. >> gaetz nomination. >> did move. >> quickly to. >> torpedo him. we saw. three astray. >> on this vote. so i. >> wouldn't be surprised if one. >> of these nominees was. >> shot down. >> doug, last night we learned the trump administration has pushed out senior officials, senior officials at the doj and fbi involved in investigating and prosecuting january 6th rioters. at least six high level fbi executives have already been fired, and thousands of other agents are under review. as a former federal prosecutor yourself, what could be the impact of this kind of purge? >> well, i think it's very dangerous to our law enforcement system in the country. the fbi, whether you like them or not, they're still one. >> of. >> if probably the greatest law enforcement agency in the world. they have they had issues. sure.

of course they have. every agency does. but they are still an incredibly good, functioning agency that does amazing work for the american people. and this makes things very, very dangerous. and going back a little bit, i think, ralph, i hope some of these republican senators will connect the dots between what kash patel is saying, what he has said in the past and what is going on at the department of justice and the fbi, even before they take a vote, because he will continue this purge. it is amazing to me, as someone who's been loyal to the department of justice throughout the different administrations, it's painful to watch those folks do a good job and they follow the law. and it is a blow for the institution as well as the rule of law. >> carlos, many other federal employees are also being targeted by trump and his inner circle. workers in charge of diversity programs have been terminated. others have been

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about should trump be returned to office have now become a reality. and we're only two weeks in. so tonight on politics nation, i have convened our first ever civil rights summit to talk about what comes next. joining me now is human rights activist martin luther king, the third of the drum major institute. civil rights attorney ben crump and judith browne-dianis are executive director of the advancement project. martin, ben, judith, thank you all for joining us tonight. i want to start by playing some sound from president trump's inauguration last month, which fell on the federal holiday honoring your father, martin. let's take a listen. >> today is martin luther king day and his honor. this will be a great honor. but in his honor, we will strive together to make his dream a reality. we will

make his dream come true. i will also end the government policy of trying to socially engineer race and gender into every aspect of public and private life. we will forge a society that is colorblind and merit based. >> now, martin, less than two weeks after the president laid claim to your father's dream, the pentagon's intelligence agency announced it will pause observance of king day, black history month, or juneteenth due to trump's colorblind merit based band on dna, which he blames. he's blamed on just about all of the nation's problems now, including the deadly plane crash over washington this week. what's it like for you to watch the president invoke your father's name? you picked up that mantle even as he attacks the inclusion

he fought and died for. your father fought for us to be able to compete with our merit. not that he didn't want merit on the table. how do you feel as you hear this? well, certainly not surprised. >> awfully. >> awfully disappointed. but the real question. >> is. >> what do. >> we do about it? >> and i'm. >> glad that attorney crump is. >> here. >> because part of the remedy is going to be. >> a tremendous. >> legal pushback against everything. because he's doing everything by. executive order. so congress. doesn't even exist. per se. >> and i. >> think there are a lot of things. >> that are not quite legal. it's going to take a minute to navigate through. >> but i think. >> the other thing is. >> is, as you and others have said. >> rev, we've. >> got to engage in some kind. >> of disinvestment campaign that. is constructive. >> and that. >> can be effective, because

when a system is not supportive of you. >> then you don't need to. >> support the system. we have. >> we've seen. >> this film before. >> my father and. >> others were. involved in economic removal back, back in the early 60s. students were engaged. >> in economic. removal during the south. >> african apartheid movement. >> and we got to do something. the fact of the matter is, somehow we got to really come. >> together and. >> really collectively move. >> and i think we have to join our black and brown community as well. >> i agree, and we've already started that. we've started something i call a boycott, where we are supporting those businesses that have said they will not drop die, but i'll get to that later. judith, in these first two weeks, we've seen president trump go after one vulnerable group after another, while at the same time hijacking the works of the justice department's civil rights

division. and with that, the division has pulled back from lawsuits and enforcements involving lgbtq protections, transgender rights, voting rights, abortion rights. it goes on. instead, he's directing the justice department to go after dei in private sector, with the threat of a lawsuit from the civil rights division. what's your reaction to this assault? >> yes. >> rev, we have. >> seen the rollbacks pretty quickly. >> in fact, we. are advancing project is council and a voting rights case in virginia. and this week at a hearing they the department of justice said they're withdrawing from the case. we have seen that in several other cases. and they're doing either withdrawals, they're doing dismissals. or they will change sides. >> and what we. >> have. >> to understand is that the department of. >> justice. >> civil rights division. >> has played. >> an incredibly important. role

in forcing civil. >> rights all. >> the. >> way back to. >> the. >> 1950s, 1960s. >> they really did. >> hold the line. >> for us when states rights were moving to oppress and repress us. and so it's an important division. and what it means right now is that organizations like mine, ben crump and others. >> will have to do. >> more litigation to protect our civil rights, and we're going to. >> have to. >> rely on. >> those biden. >> appointees. >> 240 new. >> judges, and. >> we're. >> going to have to go to the state courts in. >> order to protect. people from. >> the feds. >> now, staying with that, ben crump, attorney general of black america, with this freeze on civil rights, the civil rights division, several police reform agreements, consent decrees that were finalized in former president biden's final months are in limbo. and among the cities impacted is louisville,

kentucky. four years after breonna taylor's fatal police shooting and minneapolis four years after george floyd's murder, in that time, you represented the families of both the deceased. we've been involved from national action network with you. we've watched these consent decrees get negotiated and now sabotaged by trump's justice department. describe the impact on police reform and the police reform movement in the country, attorney crump. well, reverend al, it's been devastating to say. >> in just a. >> word. >> i agree with my learned colleague martin luther and judith that we have to confront these. unconstitutional acts. i mean, he's acting without any. response from. congress to get authority to roll back. all the. civil rights that we've gained. so we. >> have to be. >> strategic and confront. them

in the court of law and. >> in the court of public. >> opinion, like you're doing with costco. but the other thing we. >> have to do is. learn from. >> the lessons of martin luther king jr. when he said in the letter from birmingham jail, just because they say it's legal, that doesn't make. >> it right. >> and as judith does with the. advancement project, we. >> got to. >> learn from frederick douglass. >> without struggle, there. >> can be no. >> progress, and we're going to have to struggle in these next. >> four years. >> but we can't get this. press for the struggle. reverend al, as you have taught me, we have. >> to celebrate. >> the struggle every day. because that's how we make progress for our children. now, martin, your home city of atlanta is one of several that have seen immigration and customs enforcement raids really under the president's mass deportation action, ice says it has arrested 7400 people in nine days since the crackdown began,

with few specifics as to who has been targeted and their origins. but i want to remind our viewers that black migrants are also caught in the crosshairs of this purge, with thousands of haitian nationals fearful that trump will end their temporary protected status after he demonized them during the campaign. and haitian leaders are saying that trump's policies toward the country will devastated. i've said this before on our air. i don't think the president would be pursuing this purge so energetically if the migrants he was removing were coming from predominantly white countries like greenland and canada, who he's trying to bring in the country. what do you think, martin? no. >> i certainly. agree wholeheartedly, reverend. >> i also think. >> it's unfortunate that we're at this particular. point because many of the industries and what is perplexing to me is

not that our immigration system is broken. >> but that we are saying that. >> the problem. >> is these people. >> are taking our jobs, these. >> jobs that. >> many immigrants have, whether it's picking our. >> food or. >> whether it's construction. >> whether it's lawn care, and. >> it goes. >> on and on. if you remove all these people, at some point your economy is going to collapse and they are. >> teetering on the brink. >> they don't seem to realize or care about that. >> but it's. >> going to at some point affect and create a major problem beyond the fact. the first thing is, it's morally wrong to divide families. all of us should be concerned about the fact that you're taking children, you're. >> targeting. >> you're going into. >> churches. >> you're going into, you know, all kinds of places. it's unconscionable what is happening. and so at some point. >> there's going to be. >> some additional. >> pushback, not. just from immigrants trying to protect themselves. we need to lift up and protect everybody, and we need to create a system that is

fair so. >> that people can. >> come into the country. >> in the. >> right way. >> but i. >> think it's. >> just going. >> to be a disaster. >> judith, employees at several federal agencies were instructed to remove pronouns and in some cases, nicknames, from their email signatures. yesterday, as part of trump's executive order that gender identity be removed from government materials and, of course, his broader attacks on transgender rights. these last two weeks, less than 2% of americans identify as transgender and transgender. service members are a fraction of the military force. given that, as i just asked martin, why has trump taken aim at this community specifically, what does he gain by targeting them the way he has? >> well, you know, this is one. >> of. those issues that i think he thinks tested well. >> for him during the. >> election cycle, and he's. >> going to deliver on it. and what is. >> horrible about this is that

this isn't. >> just. >> like the erasure of. transgender people. but this is opening. >> the. >> doors to. >> more violence. >> against that community. >> more harm. against that community. >> because if the president. >> is doing. >> it and state governors. >> are doing it. >> then why can't the. >> the people who are on the streets start to attack them? >> and so. >> i'm really. worried about the way in which not only is he, first of all, using the pen to make laws that don't exist, right, like executive orders are not laws. you cannot change the constitution through an executive order. but what he is doing is what is a democracy stress test. he's trying to see how far he can go, how much harm he can do so that he can keep his base, the maga base together. >> and how far we will let him go. the other americans that still believe in democratic principles. ben, you're currently working with several residents recovering from last month's wildfire that devastated

los angeles altadena area, which is known for its large historically black community and new research from the university of california, los angeles, has found that the altadena black homeowners more were more likely than others to have had their homes savagely damaged, if not destroyed, by that fire, and they'll have a harder time rebuilding financially. i want to mention that i'll be in altadena thursday in my capacity as a president of national action network, to hold services with some of the victims in altadena and with you. and despite the suffering, the president is pushing for conditions on federal aid to california and toying with the shuttering of the federal emergency management agency, which is on the ground in altadena and the rest of the area impacted. what would that mean for the people recovering

there? it's inhumane that he would make it political when so many people are suffering. i mean, they lost everything. not only did they lose their. >> property. >> some of them lost. >> their lives. >> but many of them lost what they see as their future. reverend al, to give. generational wealth to their children. >> because oftentimes. >> these black people who made up this beautiful multicultural community known as. >> altadena. they talk. >> about palisades, they talk about hollywood hills. but we got to keep talking about altadena because those black people's lives matter so much just as well. and the fact that they're not talking about. >> them. >> it's almost as if they're trying to sweep them under the rug. and we got to say, no, we're going to. repair this beautiful multicultural community. we're going to rebuild this beautiful multicultural community, and we're going to make sure their

legacy is never forgotten. and that's why, reverend al, if the president won't come to. >> altadena. >> martin, the third judah. our community has to come and save us. we have to file the insurance claims. we have to hold those accountable. and so again. >> we have to be unapologetic. >> defenders of our lives, our humanity and our culture. well, i'll be there thursday with you. the family invited us and i'll be there. and i'm sure many of others will start doing that. i want to look forward now because those of us in the struggle are fighting back in our own respective ways, whether it is in the courts or on the street. as head of national action network, i've celebrated the courage of companies like costco, which has continued its corporate diversity efforts even as trump has intimidated other businesses into abandoning their efforts. i've also spoken out against those who want to

dismantle diversity programs, including the hedge fund billionaire bill ackman, and we held a rally in washington, dc on inauguration day, which was king day, to let the president know we're ready to keep the dream alive today. we took hundreds on our second week for a boycott out in new jersey. we started in harlem with about 150. last week. we had over 300 with mayor ras baraka and rev reverend steffie bartley and i taking them shopping at costco to celebrate those that celebrate and respect us. so i have to ask you all very briefly, please. we're out of time, but i wanted to keep this segment going 30s each. where do you go from here in terms of civil rights, voting rights, police reform, starting again with you, martin, you and i represent a movement based kind of nonviolence and peaceful direct action. how do you send a

message through activism that gets this attention? well, the. >> first thing is. >> all of what you're doing. >> today, rev, and all of us need to join in. we got to stay engaged. we can't give up. we can't give out. we can't give in. we have to keep pushing. and ultimately we will arise. >> attorney crump, many of us are looking to the court system to hold up, if not nullify, trump's actions over the next four years. your thoughts on what's next? we have to be courageous. reverend al sharpton, we have to continue to make them say the words diversity. equity and inclusion, not just say dei. because the virtues are in the words diversity. equity and inclusion. every humane society respects those things. and finally, i'll just say this, reverend al, we have to make sure they read the constitution. they apparently have forgotten. >> that the. >> constitution is what governs

america. judith, you close out with this summit, how is the advancement project responding to this moment? >> well, we are going to be in the courts. we are going to be supporting people who are getting in the streets, because we know we have to be in the streets so that people understand we are not going to sit on the sidelines in this moment. and we have to remind our elected officials, whether they're dems or republicans, that they must hold the line on our democracy and not let this turn into an authoritarian government. >> many thanks to martin luther king, the third, benjamin crump and judith browne-dianis for being with our first summit on the first day of black history month 2025. up next, my final thoughts. stay with us. >> let your feet. >> take you wherever your spirit wants to go. the one and only

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