type of thing. so i mean, it was it was definitely a cold effect at first. but as we started talking and getting more personal and sharing our story, i do believe that tide turned quite a bit over time. >> tasha adams, thank you so much for sharing your story with us and being a part of this documentary. greatly appreciate it. it's important for all americans to see it, so we greatly appreciate you. >> thank you. >> and thank you for making time for us. i'm ayman mohyeldin in new york. make sure to catch ayman here on msnbc each saturday and sunday at 7 p.m. eastern. you can find us on blue sky and instagram at msnbc. make sure you can listen to every episode of ayman as a podcast by scanning the qr code there on your screen. don't go anywhere. as promised, king of the as promised, king of the apocalypse starts right now. (machine powering up) (clicking noise) (whistling music) man: yep. there we go.

(machine whirring) we will see if that's any better or more stable. hooray. oh, no sound. (whirring, creaking) whoops! (crackling sound) okay. i am dakota adams, and a time of massive change is supposed to arrive soon. but thankfully for you, my logged in few, if armageddon is indeed upon us, you're in the right place. my entire life has been spent preparing for the end times. my father, the man the feds consider to be one of the masterminds of the january 6th riot and founder of the now infamous oath keepers, was elmer stewart rhodes iii. (keyboard clicking) from inside our world

he was heroic and was going to save america from the end of the world. (crowds rioting) living for the apocalypse is nothing new. humanity has been terrifying itself with armageddon since the first deep thinker came out of a cave asking, "what happens if the sun doesn't rise tomorrow?" stewart's vision of the future starts with a tyrannical government that would take away our guns and our liberty. we'll then be plunged into civil war, a desperate fight for survival that would ultimately destroy america as we know it. (keyboard clicking) most outsiders will simply believe this is all just conspiracy bullshit. but for stewart, the fear was all-consuming and the dangers extremely real. he believed we should stand up to the government and taught me about great patriots who ended up paying a heavy, heavy price. (keyboard clicking) great out here. the rains have come this summer.

the grass is tall. it's still green. my cows are fat. dakota: this is lavoy finicum. like stewart, his beliefs are deeply rooted in the us constitution, and he felt the law of the land had been violated. he chose to make a stand by taking over federal parkland. i am putting everything on the line. i'm putting my life on the line. i'm putting my children's life on the line. and so you must decide for yourself, if you're not ready, that is fine. but for me, myself, just lavoy finicum, this simple man, this simple redneck, i will stand. stewart: this is no longer the land of the free. in order to be free, you must be brave. i'm gonna meet the sheriff. the sheriff is waiting for us. so you do as you damn well please. this is lavoy finicum.

if you want to shoot me, you shoot me. stewart: thomas jefferson taught we have to defend our rights, or they are taken from us by a greater force. this is about freedom. this is about america. lavoy: they're out there. hang on. woman: okay, they're shooting. lavoy: hang on. woman: take more care. lavoy: go ahead and shoot me. (gunshots) (woman screams) police officer: get on the ground! woman: stay down, stay down, stay down, stay down. (woman screams) stay down, stay down. lavoy: you'll have to shoot me. (gunfire) -did they shoot him? -(screams) oh, my god! okay, okay. stay down. did they kill him? god keep us safe. please, please, please protect us. -god. please, god. -please protect us. man: we got lasers still on us.

lavoy got out. i think they've killed lavoy. (keyboard clicking) dakota: stewart would make me aware of many, many stories like this. each taking us one step closer to the end times. there's nothing to be afraid of. ♪ ring of fire - johnny cash ♪ i fell in to a burning ring of fire ♪ i went down, down, down ♪ and the flames went higher ♪ and it burns, burns, burns ♪ the ring of fire ♪ the ring of fire ♪ the ring of fire ♪ the ring of fire ♪ the ring of fire

dakota: to help you understand how an apocalyptic obsession has defined my life and the lives of everyone i care about, i want to take you back to the start and begin with the most obsessive human thing of all. long before stewart would become america's most wanted, a long, long time before he met my mom, tasha adams. (piano music) i was working at arthur murray dance studios, and, i looked out from the training room where i was studying for my big dance teacher test, and i thought, "oh, there's a young person." everyone in the studio is so old. so i noticed him.

a few days later, the assistant manager of the dance studio brought me into her office. she was just so glamorous. and she had danced everywhere. and when she brought me into her office, she surprised me. because instead of talking about the dance students and the schedule, she started telling me this long story about how she met her husband. and she was working on a cruise ship as a performer, and she just believed in love. true love. and then she ended it by saying, "this can't go outside of here "because dating students is strictly against "all arthur murray protocol. "but i have this strong feeling. "i really want you to meet my new student. "his name is stewart." and we met a few days later at a - don't laugh - a dance-orama.

it's a competition. everything is glamorous. except the champagne, which is really cheap. so we met and we danced and we started secretly dating. i thought it was probably the most romantic event of my life, really. he would just tell me he'd never met anyone as smart as me. (laughs) i had grown up mormon. he let me know he had been baptized mormon. he did not explain to me that he had been baptized in every church. he had gone to five different high schools from all his parents moving around. and you know, he didn't even know what a vowel was. you know, he had to ask me, "what does that even mean?" but he seemed like, if someone just loved him enough and cared for him enough that he could realize his potential.

pastor: now, by the legal authority vested in me, i pronounce you husband and wife and you may kiss your wife. (cheering and applause) (romantic accordion music) tasha: we had six kids. (keyboard clicking) (woman screams) he also got into yale law school, which was a big deal. dakota: stewart wrote a paper while at yale about how the government had eroded the constitution since the 9/11 terrorist attacks. it was highly regarded and even won an award. tasha: and he had all these bright plans for the future. he kept saying what the country really needed was a group based on people who had sworn an oath to the constitution. man: i... all: i... -do solemnly swear... -do solemnly swear...

that i will bear true faith and allegiance... that i will bear true faith and allegiance... ..to the united states of america. ..to the united states of america. tasha: one of the names he had written down was oath keepers, and so i thought, "well, that's a winner." yeah, i mean, i thought... ..what's not to like, you know? (laughs) right? you're gonna keep your oath to the constitution. what could go wrong? (laughs) (crowd rioting, shouting) man: i was invited here by the president. an angry pro-trump mob storms the u.s. capitol. female reporter: what you're witnessing is, i think, fair to say, unprecedented. male reporter: some of these rioters who are coming out from here, these are, i believe, oath keepers.

the oath keepers have been around since 2009. it describes itself online as a, quote, "non-partizan association "of current and formerly-serving military, "police and first responders," unquote. and the group claims to have 30,000 members. the oath keepers were seen at the insurrection walking in line through the mob. investigators accused the group of playing a key role in conspiring to incite violence. usa! usa! male reporter: research by the program on extremism, which currently tracks all 711 cases as of today, highlights at least 24 oath keepers who are part of this overarching conspiracy. and while stewart rhodes is not named directly in these indictments, he is identified as person one. and throughout these indictments, you can really see, as the government alleges, this kind of leadership role that he takes on the ground on that day. (crowd cheering)

dakota: 12 months after january 6th, facing negative press from both sides, stewart sat for an interview. it would be his last as a free man. i kind of want to just hear, like, what your last six months has been like. as expected. except for all the demonization from the so-called right. i'm getting people declaring that, "oh, he's a fed, "he must be a fed. he hasn't been arrested yet." so it turns out the political right, the media on the right is every bit as disingenuous and partizan and... what's the right word? ..irresponsible, as the media on the left is. and the people that read the media on the right are every bit as non-thinking, accepting of whatever they're being told by their talking head. it's the same crap. -both sides. -did that surprise you? uh, no. not really. no. so the narrative on the right is how you just laid it out.

what's the narrative of you on the left? oh, that i'm the bad guy. that i conspired to invade the capitol. and i'm the grand, you know, the grand poobah and kingpin behind the scenes. because it's the big lie. and the big lie is that there was some concerted plan to enter the capitol. there just wasn't. at least not on the part of any trump supporters that i know of. certainly not on our part. what i would tell your average leftist is, i want you to remember what it was like during the bush years, when 9/11 happened and the bush administration began to set aside the constitutional restraints, like on detention of american citizens and torture and everything else that they were doing, in the name of the war on terror. and think back to what you thought about it back then. quite a few people on the political left were opposed to it and so was i. and think about the unease and fear you had that that was being turned into a weapon against political dissidents.

so if they said you're a terrorist, they can just whisk away your rights and, you know, put you into a whole different lower level of proof and lower level of everything and mess with you. i think what they're doing to the january 6th accused is very similar, because they're not doing what's normal. what's normal is you get bail, unless they can prove you're a flight risk, or that you're about to go and commit some horrible, horrible criminal act. but they're just alleging that these guys are bad guys who may commit other bad actions. based on what though? just because... just the mere accusations because they walked on the capitol. and most of these people have no criminal record whatsoever. do you imagine, like, yourself getting whisked away? like, are you mentally preparing for that? yeah, i'm ready for it. if they do it to me, i'll just deal with it. i'm ready for that.

in some ways, it'll help me. it'll start knocking back this bullshit about me being a fed, you know? of course, they'll still say, "he's still a fed!" somehow, "he's still a fed." so... but actually, it'll probably improve my standing in the patriot community. frankly. female reporter: the department of justice has filed seditious conspiracy charges against a number of january 6th rioters, including the head of the oath keepers, stewart rhodes, who was arrested today in texas. the leader of the oath keepers sits in jail on charges of sedition, the harshest indictments yet related to the attack on the capitol. male reporter: it's a serious as a heart attack. i mean, seditious conspiracy is one step down from absolute treason. prosecutors are saying this was something that was well planned and this group, the oath keepers, were a key part.

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there was one point where the mother sort of sent him over there as a teenager. stewart wanted to learn about how to be a man. his dad had been a horse trainer and a blacksmith. he had done boxing. he was a marine. but stewart said when he went there to spend the summer with him, he would just sit on the couch every day and watch television and... ..wouldn't even spend any time with him. he did one boxing lesson and said, "here's how you punch." he punched stewart in the jaw and knocked him out in the garage. and that was... that was the extent of their boxing lesson. and then the way he turned out, it's just... (sighs heavily) he turned out the way he did.

dakota: far from being a villain when i was growing up, stewart was the redeemer. the man who would save america from the end of the world. i was raised to be my father's heir apparent. stewart's wish was for me to be his mirror image, a strong, all-conquering renaissance man, who could outfight and outthink anyone, except stewart. built to reflect all glory onto him, as the source of my bloodline and all of its power. (keyboard clicks) stewart: and you can hear the camera guy saying, "i see something." dakota: the year is 2008 and stewart has just started oath keepers. we, his family, are living in a rental house

on the outskirts of las vegas. (all scream) our mom is homeschooling us and plans had just been shared that we would all soon be moving to montana. stewart saw it was my responsibility to protect the family from attack, so by this time i was mostly just doing training. i was 12 going on 13. my job had been to somehow, in suburban las vegas, learn wilderness survival skills and practical skills for living in the bush... ..for when we... ..moved to montana and started up our compound, like right before the apocalypse. whereas effectively, stewart was staying in las vegas to make as much money as a lawyer as possible. like, up until the last minute before we left, so that we could better situate ourselves for the apocalypse.

we would play a game where he'd be trying to train in situational awareness. so he would, like, step back and disappear while we were in a grocery store and then... ..circle around and see if he could sneak up on me and then, like, lunge out from behind a shelf and scream, "stab, stab, stab," and pantomime shanking me. and, like, everybody would, like, look and be like, "what the fuck? what the fuck was that?" if he'd been an assassin, i would have died. the second eldest child is my sister sedona, a fearsome fighter, champion grappler and martial artist, probably the toughest of all of us. she was the first to see through stewart. so at this point she thinks he's full of shit and is saying it constantly. the disrespect causes fights between us.

she's nine years old. she's mostly found away from the house practicing survival skills. she's annoyingly strong at those. sedona: oh, and we had a lot of survival books laying around. i read pretty much all of them all the way through, and i would go back and read them again and use as many of the skills in there as possible. stalking up to animals. a lot of it was just deer. but sometimes i'd also find more interesting things, like... ..mountain lion tracks that had like, a bloody trail behind it that i followed for miles. if i heard something and... ..certain kind of ways of doing it

to where i could kind of pinpoint where the animal might be at, because sometimes they're kind of like ventriloquists and you can't tell where they are, and they do that on purpose. i stayed outside as much as possible, because stewart's just like, you know, not very great to be around. so he would say, if you... ..aren't always armed, then, like, one day someone's going to, like, try to assault you or something. he would be like, "oh, if you have something on the side..." he was like, "oh, that's just an open invitation for them to stab you with your own knife." so then he'd have a knife like this, you can't really see it. and then he'd just have us practice pulling it out like this over and over and over again. oh, you have to pull it out and, like, hold it a certain way

and, like, make sure your wrist is straight and all this. and it would take, like, literally hours to just practice one tiny movement. until we got it down perfectly and we knew we have to get it down perfectly, otherwise we can't go to bed or do anything else. (keyboard clicks) dakota: despite his apparent deep understanding of apocalyptic dangers, stewart's plans for judgment day had not come together well. he had struggled to hold down a job with legal firms, and we were constantly broke. red bills have been arriving for some time along with the threat of eviction. then, overnight, oath keepers swept us up. as well as providing our family with a modest income, it gave mom something new to focus on. tasha: i looked after the website, did most of the writing and correspondence. you had all these military veterans from afghanistan and iraq who just wanted to be useful.

stewart completely related to that because he'd been in the army. he had to drop out because of an accident. he broke his back in a parachute fall. a little while later, he also accidentally shot out his own eye. (gunshot) he didn't like talking about that in the public. but leaving the military without really serving, it left a gap in him which he felt he needed to make right. —hi! —hi! ♪♪ chocolate fundraiser. ♪♪ with the chase mobile app, things move a little more smoothly. ♪♪ deposit checks easily and send money quickly. [coins clinking] ♪♪ that's convenience from chase. make more of what's yours.

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this is not a time to pretend the last six years fighting wars which many troops on the ground felt were unwinnable or unjustified. many of these ex-military guys said the same thing. the government had let them down and it could not be trusted. so stewart's calls to respect the oath spoke loudly to them. interestingly, after the vietnam war, the same thing happened. then, two militia groups sprang up with thousands of disgruntled veterans looking for something to believe in and belong to. mom was so caught up with managing the first few days of oath keepers as a blog, that the power did get shut off. it immediately turned into a phenomenon that became extremely real extremely quickly.

seeing all of the things that stewart talked about around like the kitchen table suddenly becoming matters of national news, validated a lot of belief systems in the family home. the greatest threat to our freedom would be our own government. and i hope every american is watching your show today and realize now that we cannot depend on our politicians in washington d.c. to keep their oath and follow and defend the united states constitution. dakota: i was extremely proud to have stewart as my father. my mom especially, very much believed in destiny and believed that she had been predestined to support and assist stewart in doing something world-changing. we are trying to prevent this country from suffering the abuse and the violation of rights that has happened in other countries -in recent history. -how so? how so?

by keeping the oaths to the constitution. it's not to any one man whether he gives you a throw up your leg or not. it's to the constitution. it felt... ..sort of vindicating, the way it took off. exactly the way he said it would. it felt like destiny. news reporter: the leader of the far right extremist group, the oath keepers, is due to appear in federal court. after making more than 700 arrests connected to the january 6th capitol attack, it now appears investigators are moving up the food chain. news reporter: rhodes has repeatedly denied any wrongdoing, claiming he never told his members to enter the capitol. the insurrection should be a wake up call, a reminder that america is still confronted with the age old menace that's taken on a new life in the 21st century - terror from white supremacists. dakota: after the attack on the capitol,

many called the oath keepers white supremacists. in the years that followed obama's election in 2008, militia groups grew by some 700%. barack obama is the first illegal that needs to be removed from the united states of america. (crowd cheers) dakota: but summing up the entire militia motivation as white supremacy is missing a lot. stewart would call the racism accusation a lie. his grandparents were mexican. yet at the same time, he would appear on conspiracy theorist favorite alex jones, talking about how terrible the mexican problem was. well, you've had, you know, mexican people waving the mexican flag and burning the u.s. flag. that's not who we want here. we could even deploy troops into mexico, as wilson did, to go and hit them before they get to the border. dakota: he would also gladly point out that there are black members in oath keepers. i'm not going to stand by while some white supremacists

are going around murdering people because of their skin color. i'll fuck him up. i'm gonna smoke 'em. he's gonna take a dirt nap. and a lot of my guys feel the same fucking way. ask whip how he feels about that. (laughs) dakota: michael 'whip' simmons was his head of security for january 6th. like stewart, he's also indicted. i got indicted, like, two days after i told his attorneys i would take the stand for stewart. interviewer: why do you think that was? um... you know, i can't say for sure, personally, they probably were trying to keep me from taking the stand. and so they figured if they indict me, i wouldn't take the stand, i mean, if i take the stand while i'm indicted, you give up your right to the fifth amendment. so... ..maybe they thought it was a good move. dakota: whip fits exactly the kind of image that oath keepers

wants to present to the world. an all-american boy, wrestling champion, signed up to the us army, served in combat in iraq, and then left feeling betrayed. whip: i'm not a member of the oath keepers. i'm just somebody who stewart brought in to do a job. for me, it just generated income. but i could get behind what the group was doing. i mean, i follow politics, but, you know, i don't vote. i mean, you got to understand, like, nothing ever changes in the neighborhoods or in the ghettos or, you know, what people would call these urban areas. you know, don't matter whose ass is sitting in the presidential chair, nothing ever changes in the neighborhood. that shit doesn't matter. you know, all these people talking about the election's been stolen, the election has been rigged. shit! talk to anybody from any one of these areas. they'll tell you, elections have been rigged forever.

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mechelle: that's why, you know what, i don't deal with the political. i don't get involved with it. none of that. none of that. man, they, um... i got an email to go back to iraq. it's a government contract. the same government that's trying to prosecute you? now you gonna go work for them? just another job for me. stop going to war for them because they ain't going to war for you. all they want to do is keep people and they so damn dumb they keep their own citizens against each other. so if something was to come to america, we so busy fighting each other that we can't even stand together to even ward nothing off, if something was to happen here. let's look at the big picture. who are we fighting for? all this stuff going on with trump is a distraction of what's really happening. our government ain't never told us the truth about nothing,

so i don't get involved in it. i don't vote because they're going to do whatever they want to do... ..in the end. nothing else that the government got they self connected to, should you be involved in. nothing. nothing. find another job. doing what? anything but that. dakota: "trust nothing and no-one," we were told. you might say that's understandable. stewart said, "under no circumstance discuss what happens within our family

"or home with anyone. "not even another oath keeper." in 2010, the place we called home was about to radically change. we moved from our small las vegas rental a thousand miles north to trego, montana. montana has a few things that would appeal to those who trust nothing. very few human beings live there. the land is vast, so hiding is easy. those human beings who do live there are often independent-minded and isolated, more likely to keep to themselves. many come here to hide. (keyboard clicks) when we moved to trego, that's when stewart began to get into his defense planning phase. it started with the escape tunnels.

stewart had been for a long time very concerned with how he would get out of being besieged by the feds, and very concerned with not being stuck in a standoff situation with no escape route. it was, really before even putting in gardens, the first major project that we embarked on. (♪lively fiddle music) there were two sets of escape tunnels, one that would be a long l-shaped trench essentially in the ground, dug with a backhoe and finished by hand, that would be covered with two by four and plywood and a tarp ceiling, with rocks scattered over the top and sod to conceal it. and the way that that would work is a concealing shed

would be put against one wall of the house in the daylight basement, covering over a ground floor window, and the floor of the shed would have a trap door that would drop into the tunnel. and so in the event of a federal raid, everybody would be able to run into the basement, file through this window, drop down into the tunnel, grab 72-hour go bags... ..and take off through this tunnel, out to where it would drop into the tree line. and from there go into the woods. if necessary, buttonhook around to cross the stream further into the woods to lose the scent of tracking dogs, and then hike to a prepared getaway car, that was not registered to anybody associated

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sort of very controlled circumstances with stewart approving of it. with stewart getting in there and controlling the conversation. and, you know, one of his things was, you know, all conversations flowed through me, through him. and so everything had to be sort of directed around him. like, you know, all of us and the people we were allowed to socialize with were sort of satellites around him. and so... ..what began to happen is we began to be isolated in plain sight. and by the time i started thinking, this is terrible, i was trapped. well, stewart was king, you know, of our house, everywhere we went, people come up to you, "oh, you're so lucky. "so lucky to be married to such a wonderful man.

"he is on a mission from god." (keyboard clicking) dakota: while we were at home preparing for the apocalypse, the oath keepers was blossoming into a large movement. thousands of new paying members were joining. they came from all parts of society, but many importantly, had positions of authority. police, military, even politics, all bought into stewart's apocalyptic worldview. your own government, what they're going to do is trigger an economic collapse. let people kill each other. let them starve for three or four months. let the cities implode and then come in like the cavalry and say, "oh, we're here to rescue you. "turn in your guns. you get a food card. "turn to your neighbors. you get a food card. "those crazy patriots who are resisting us

and shooting at us at checkpoints "are the enemy." now, i put my neck on the chopping block and my family's neck on the chopping block by starting oath keepers and saying what i'm saying today. i do it because i have no choice. i do it for my children. i am urging you to take this seriously. dakota: along with his dire warnings about the future, membership continued to grow, giving stewart more power and influence. as a result, the oath keepers were making themselves seen, helping with disaster relief. they even sponsored a nascar racing team. they also showed up at potential standoffs. one such event was at bundy ranch. much like the situation lavoy had lost his life for, it was a dispute about federal land. a popular standoff situation. what we will do is we will stand and we will fight, and we will die, if the government tries to oppress the bundys

or tries to attack us. dakota: law enforcement was met with an armed camp that grew larger and more heavily armed and more paranoid by the day, and refused to stand down. fearing a drone strike against his men, stewart ordered oath keepers forces to retreat into the desert and withdraw. following the incident, rumors started to spread that he had been spoken to by the feds and threatened. a real model citizen. dakota: he never confirmed all of that to us, but it's true that from then on in... ..strange stuff started to happen. tasha: we could hear what sounded like feedback in the house. it was odd. stewart was convinced we'd been bugged. but i don't know. i think really, for the most part,

i just thought he was completely insane. like, the more...sometimes i'd have more of a moment of like, whoa, this is really bad. stewart: think of national security, during the quasi-war with france... sedona: he became more paranoid because he's this now supposedly famous person that's running oath keepers. the feds were going to, like, hunt him down and kill him or something. people are following what he says. instantly people are gravitating to him like a sun. you know, like the sun is rising and they're gathering around for the warmth. i mean, that's...they're basking in it. and that....and that's how it seemed. i'm stewart rhodes, i'm the founder of oath keepers. (applause) everyone here who has taken an oath to support and defend the constitution, please stand up and raise your right hand in the air. tasha: but at the same time... put your right hand to be sworn out.

..his mental state really... ..degraded. it spiraled. there is a certain point where things in trego really started to fall apart. the supposed savior of america is nestled upstairs in the loft, where he's constructed a nest all the way around himself of piled survival gear, and in his day to day, he was completely fine with peeing in bottles and curling up in his filthy blankets and occasionally wandering downstairs to scream at people. not showering, not cleaning up his prosthetic eye until the whole thing ruptured. everything you could imagine, he was letting go.

dakota: and at the absolute peak of his isolation, he'd slump over mid-screaming tirade and then an hour later come unpaused and snap awake, resuming his tirade exactly where he left off. but he was so incoherent that there wasn't really anything to engage with. you just had to wait until he was over, like a weather pattern. tasha: he had a huge meltdown about 2:00 in the morning, one night, where he'd drag everybody out of bed. and sedona said, that's it. "i will not sleep in the house again when he's in the house." and she built a hut out in the woods. nd even when it was minus ten degrees out, she slept outside.

she would heat rocks in the fireplace at night, and she had a little pit inside of her hut, and she would put these heated rocks in it and put straw over it, to warm her bed and put a little fire that would go out by morning in front of it, and she'd sleep out in the woods, every night if he was home. and i worried about her freezing to death sometimes. it was so cold out. but she said, "i can't. "i just cannot be in that house with him. "i can't, you know, you never know "when he's going to drag you out of bed in the night, "just screaming at the top of his lungs." but he saw that as her embracing survivalist skills. but honestly, she just sort of disappeared because she just felt like she had nowhere to go. >> duncan.

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>> get growing. >> at nutrafol. ..of the whole thing. i think there's not much that any of us could have done, really. (gun cocking) (gun cocking) tasha: he would have these meltdowns and i would have to apologize. and then he just drew his gun, you know, and... but he didn't point it at me. you know, he pointed it at the ground, and he would rack the slide back and look at it and make sure it was loaded. and it was... ..probably to be dramatic. he knows it's loaded. he knows it's chambered, you know? and then he'd just plop down on the floor and point it at his own head and, "see what you made me do!" and so this was something that was happening a lot, like a lot.

and he would always say, "what are you going to do? "you going to call the police and say, i'm suicidal? "you know i'm not threatening you." because... ..he suddenly has more power. i thought there was, there's really no way out of this. how would we ever get out of this? how are we going to get out of this? i think anybody looking at it would think - "oh, someone's going to die. "they're not all getting out of this alive." news reporter: a tragic accident in arizona today when police say a four-year-old boy accidentally shot and killed his father. a tragic school shooting this morning in perry, iowa. it's the second school shooting just four days into the new year.

news reporter: people have been killed. at least 13 have been injured. a delaware county man accidentally shot and killed himself while climbing over a gate earlier this week. police say the toddler picked up the gun from her parents' nightstand and accidentally fired that weapon. a bullet grazed the girl's cheek before hitting her mom in the back of the head. no-one outside america, and even some inside america, understands our relationship with guns. our life with stewart was full of guns. we had about 60 loaded rifles stored all around the house, so there was always one to hand. as a libertarian, stewart believed that any gun control laws were against the constitution. having lots and lots of guns is completely normal for many libertarians. okay, libertarian. what is a libertarian? archive: from the dawn of history, a better way of life has been man's dream.

man's goal. a better way of life with freedom from the work, the worry, the hazards. and in time they formed a new nation dedicated to a better way of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. dakota: a libertarian believes in liberty for the individual. political freedom. freedom of thought. freedom of choice. freedom is everything. freedom is the red line worth defending by any means necessary. this is why, for the libertarian, the gun is such a fundamental thing. no-one quotes marx more than american libertarians, reciting that political power flows from the barrel of a gun for making society unfriendly to a military occupation...

..or a police state. interviewer: you are promising america tonight, you would never abuse power as retribution against anybody. except for day one. dakota: when trump first stepped up to politics, libertarians loved him. he seemed to stand for everything they understood, someone completely outside the political system, someone who feels comfortable putting the needs of the individual first. but once he got into the white house, we all witnessed his limitations. for the libertarians, that centered around his lack of respect for the constitution. after january 6th, even stewart struggled to be convinced by him. i think trump is a buffoon, frankly. i think he's an egomaniac, just wanted to be president. and he got in there and didn't know what he was doing. just straight up, okay. he's not the sharpest tack in the box. he doesn't know the constitution.

he has no concept of how it works. he's in favor of stop and frisk, in favor of red flag bills. you know, we'll do...take the guns now. we're about due process later. the guy doesn't understand the constitution. okay. that's just being, that's just the hard truth. dakota: we should stop this here. now, this doesn't mean stewart wouldn't back trump. he obviously still does. people like stewart will forgive trump anything, because he's on their side. so moving on, the place of gun rights in the us constitution is the second amendment. the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. all americans have a very strong view about the second amendment, even those that have no interest in politics. you know, i kind of stray away from anybody who kind of speaks against the second amendment. i mean, you know, because i mean who are you going to depend on if you can't depend on yourself?

britt, if you call the police, how long it take? right now, i mean, in dallas, 30, 45 minutes. easy. now, think about this. if i was coming to your house to do malice, how much damage do you think i can do to you, your house and your family in 30 minutes? by myself? think if i got two or three people with me. you know, so, you know, i don't get behind any gun ban or any ban to restrict magazine capacity. for what? you know what i mean? like, i want a fair fight if i got to defend my life. shit. hell, i think every house should have at least two guns ar 15, ak, shotgun. whatever you can get your hands on to help better defend you. you know what i mean? and hell, you don't want the fight to be fair. you don't ever want a gun fight to be a fair gun fight. who does that? shit. if you got three rounds or four rounds or five rounds and i got 30, you should have bought more bullets.

now i'm indicted. so everything's changed. generally, when you get indicted, they treat you like you've already been convicted. no matter what the constitution says. the doj don't give a shit about your constitutional rights. and it's generally like for the safety of, like, the officers coming to your house. so when i knew i was indicted, i took all my shit out of the house. i wasn't going to let them seize my weapons. some people might say this is a bit excessive. but, you know, it's a collection.

i mean, weapons are tools for me. and, you know, like, i like collecting shit, too. like, i got a lever action somewhere. one of these bags, might be this one. yeah. well, you know, get my john wayne on. i mean, hell, man, i like guns because they're guns, i like shooting. i mean, it's a sport. it's recreational. it's relaxing. hell, it's peaceful on the gun range, you know? it's nothing but you, god and the weapon. i might have 20 or more weapons here. (laughs) like another 15 or 20 at the other spot where i got my other weapons at. hell, there's ten in this box. but what they say? pray for peace. prepare for war.

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model. that's what i intend to do. our trial begins next week. i do not expect a fair trial. we will still fight. and with god's grace, perhaps. >> god can touch the. >> hearts and minds of the jurors to open their eyes to the truth and give them the courage to do what's right. god bless to do what's right. god bless america. dakota: in 2018, in the isolation to do what's right. god bless america. of our montana home, we, his family, had become imprisoned with stewart, along with his all-consuming, ever increasing amounts of crazy. as per stewart's orders, we maintained operational security. no-one, even inside oath keepers, knew what was happening in our home. alone in a house filled with enough paranoia and weaponry to start a small war, something had to change.

we had this plan fully developed for a long time scale before we started to think that our mom might be on board. tasha: they brought me into what they call their kid meetings and just sort of told me, "you got to get out of this." and they could help. stewart was becoming increasingly unstable and was talking about moving us to alaska. so the worst-case scenario became in the near future, being in the hills somewhere much more isolated and much farther away from escape than we were at the time. tasha: it took me about six months to find an attorney, because nobody wanted to deal with this. in october... ..2017,

i finally found one. we met with her and we made a plan. we jokingly, in kind of a fit of dark humor, called it the "trying not to die plan." dakota: we had set things in motion that were not cancelable. my mom had filed for divorce, and we had gotten the paperwork together to file for the restraining order. the retainer on the lawyer had been paid. we'd been smuggling guns out of the house to sell for the down payment on the attorney, and for living expenses in the immediate aftermath, and none of that could be taken back. my attorney filed for divorce on february 9th, and then we made a plan

to try to get out the night of the 12th, because we thought there was a good chance the sheriff would serve the divorce papers to him that next day, is what my attorney thought. and she said, "you know, you make your escape and you go, "you file for the temporary restraining order." so... ..i did everything i could to get him in the best mood possible. the night before we went on a little date, we had a romantic evening. (sighs) everything was set, and i got really hit with this feeling of, why do we have to do this? i mean, if we could just not do it, and everything can just stay the same. and i set the plates on the table. and, you know, we had a normal dinner and everything. and everything's going to change the next day. and i really, i kept thinking,

i hope we all live through this. i hope we all live through this. dakota: all of this planning that had gone into it, and on the final day, stewart woke up at 4 a.m. in a manic frenzy. so at the time that we should have been slipping out while he was asleep and doing the last loading of the truck before dawn, stewart was rampaging around the house, frantically rearranging survival gear. tasha: like there's no way he's going to go to bed. so we just said, "we're going to take this broken oven, "whatever it was, to the dump. "we'll load it up in the truck and take it to the dump." and we acted like it was just dakota and i, but the kids were all hiding in dakota's truck. (truck engine starts)

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"that's the best thing. "we're not really equipped to deal with this. "and you're in the middle of a divorce. "a restraining order has to go through the court system. "that's not something we can do here." so they told me i had to go up to libby, which, you know, that's a 2.5 hour drive over the mountains in february. so we did that, and i went into the justice court and i filled out the form, and then they said, "yeah, this isn't going to work." and so then i went to the district court and i filled out their form, and they said, "well, we'll, you know, we'll let you know." ultimately, the restraining order was denied. when we did go back to the house, stewart was gone. he never came back, but we felt scared.

so we, you know, we stayed up in shifts and we just took turns guarding the living room with a rifle. (sighs) i feel proud of myself for all of the hard work that went into arranging that and facilitating it. and i feel proud of stewart's profound sense of betrayal that he expressed to many people after the fact. and i worked that angle. i would send him, like, flattering, ego-stroking text messages about the important work he was doing and how i was praying that he would stay safe, so that he would keep his mood buoyed up while he was out on oath keepers operations, and stay longer with the bros and give us more time to act. i faked it for that two years, and put on the world's greatest facade of being a true and loyal son and true believer.

news reporter: the founder of the far right oath keepers organization, stewart rhodes, testified in his own defense today at his seditious conspiracy trial here in washington. elmer stewart rhodes is coming across as a smart, articulate person. he's trying to establish a rapport and trying to tell the jury a little bit about who he is. well, him taking the stand makes me, i don't know, it makes me nervous. it makes me nervous for multiple reasons. i know he thinks he can sway people. he thinks he's a traveling preacher. and he's going to... (laughs) ..he's going to save himself. just trying to pick and choose what i'm selling in here.

you know, i'm about at the end of things. i've got no child support. so i'm bringing in some magazines and hope that'll bring in some money. and i'm going to try to sell some of these guns, but honestly, they're just in such bad shape. i don't know if they're going to want to buy them. they were stewart's when we were married. honestly, these are the ones he left behind. think it's important for us to not give. >> an inch. >> and to always maintain the legitimacy of a protest and the illegitimacy of the. >> post constitution. >> fraudulent regime. >> and you're going to face the trial. >> because he's betrayed. >> he suffered. >> false witnesses. antifa

perspective about your admission perspective about your admission to not give up his when you're trying to keep yourself safe perspective about your admission to nand you're ins a really unsafe situation, it feels like you have two options. you can hide and... ..you can hide and stay very hidden. or... ..you can be very, very out front in public, so that everybody is watching. and... ..it seemed like hiding wasn't really an option for us. interviewer: my next guest knows the oath keepers better than just about anyone. tasha adams is married to and estranged from oath keeper leader, stewart rhodes. every moment he wasn't personally terrorizing us as a family, he was preparing to terrorize the rest of the nation.

he believes that he is sort of a chosen person, and i think he believes he almost has magical powers that he can, he's chosen to, you know, to rise up and be this - what my kids mockingly call - the king of the apocalypse. what do you want the world to know about him? i want them to know he's dangerous. he's a monster. every moment was about manipulation. every moment was about controlling with fear. after i did a series of interviews, i noticed a coldness around town, because i didn't just call out stewart. i called out the movement. and most people feel very supportive of january 6th. the cashiers weren't asking me about my day. maybe roll their eyes and just like, "what do you want?" you know, i turned my back on my husband, and i'm supposed to be supporting him in this difficult time. and one day i'll get mine. and so i got a lot of messages like that.

i mean, he was digging tunnels to run from the feds in my yard long before bundy ranch. so... ..even the fbi asked me, like, what was he digging the tunnels for? who is he running from? i have no idea. i need him at least put away until the kids are safe. until the kids... the youngest kid turns 18. that's 10 years. so that's what i need out of it, is for him to be put away that long. news reporter: in court documents, it's noted that you testified that he would often brandish firearms in the family home. maybe it's because i was born in vegas. it's like betting on something, right? i put it all... ..i bet everything on him being locked away forever.

(bird song) interviewer: how important is the outcome for how this is viewed? i can't believe it. i think he's a true believer that's been set up this whole time. this has to result in a conviction because much more than the law, we're talking about a fight for the soul of this nation. notifications again. (gasps) hey, guys, there's a verdict. we don't know what it is yet.

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the government's evidence showed that almost immediately following the november 2020 election, defendant stewart rhodes, the founder and leader of the oath keepers, began planning to oppose by force the peaceful transfer of power. news reporter: the jury was told that rhodes desperately tried to get in touch with then-president trump after the 2020 election, to convince him to seize voting machines and invoke the insurrection act to stay in power. he needs to know from you that you are with him, that if he does not do it now, while he is commander in chief, we're going to have to do it ourselves later in a much more desperate, much more bloody war. let's get it on now while he is still the commander in chief. hooah! news reporter: "we aren't getting through this "without a civil war." he said, days after the insurrection that, quote: "my only regret is that they should have brought rifles. "we could have fixed it right there and then."

18 years. that is the sentence a federal judge handed down to elmer stewart rhodes. delivering the sentence, judge amit mehta said rhodes presents an ongoing threat and a peril to this country and to the republic and to the very fabric of this democracy. (computer clicks) dakota: shortly after his conviction, we had the final divorce hearing, and stewart never logged in to his zoom link from prison. with this one last no-show, my mom was finally divorced. freedom from stewart released us, his family, from his views. although escaping the apocalyptic thinking he drilled into us is much, much harder. and apocalyptic thinking is now everywhere, alongside newer, more extreme versions of stewart. you swore an oath to uphold the constitution -of the united states. -get your hand off your gun. dakota: like mike dunn, who was only 19 when he helped to popularize the militia group, the boogaloo boys. stop pushing. mike dunn is a well-known boogaloo boy,

a constitutional adherent, 20-year-old former trump supporter, turned libertarian. i guess he was in the marines too as well. so, mike, thanks for coming on. thank you. alex. to start with, we see people like you, alex, who used, you know, used to be my hero as a young man. we see y'all bending the knee repeatedly. you have your talk shows, you give your speeches, but y'all don't actually stand against tyranny. and that's disheartening as a young man. the idea that you portray and the message that you carry, sometimes tend to look like you're just there to create merch. it's your generation and the ones before you, they've put it on my generation's heads. my generation didn't stand down. it's the fact that you're doing the same thing that's been done for years, and it's not accomplishing anything. the only thing that's going to accomplish is forcing a revolution. i am not doing the same thing. i'm not democrat/republican. i'm exposing the globalist program. do you understand that information is powerful? they're scared of it. you're talking. that's all you're doing. you're doing the same thing that's been done for years. we're done talking. we're done doing all of this.

we're going to go out there and take a stand. as horrible as war is, if they want a war, let it begin with us because our fathers didn't. no offense alex, but your generation didn't. and so our children don't have to. we see it as, there has to be a revolution. dakota: for mike, the police are part of the problem and therefore a target. he and his group arrange protests with the aim of provoking them into a response. (gunshots) we have 1 million police officers in the u.s. who are funded like a military, armed like a military, equipped like a military, trained like a military, and act like professional military units. we might as well prepare for war with them. they are the standing army that our forefathers warned against. are we all in agreement that nobody gets arrested today? we are all in agreement on that. good. so if a police officer begins to harass any one of you or attempt to arrest you,

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dakota: i could easily have been mike, had i followed my father's ambition. news reporter: in a defiant protest against the arrest of four men who carried firearms to a school board building, the boogaloo boys assembled at the same property with more men and larger guns. they were effectively daring the police to try to arrest them. ultimately, no police officers responded to the scene. i figured the sheriff's office would show up. i figured they'd show up here. maybe they're just letting y'all be. dakota: for stewart, and maybe dunn too, an apocalyptic future seems to actually make more sense than the one we are currently living in.

it's about control, security, and i suppose, a fear of the unknown. man: now we got a guy with a speaker and a microphone coming up here. dakota: but america is the land of the free. man: mike dunn... dakota: what could be more uncontrolled or unknown than that? ..you're a shit-talking, loud-mouthed, little dumpy motherfucker. fuck you and fuck the police. fuck the police. no they're not. no police are good. -all cops are bastards. -we're gonna have to disagree. if you all dislike mike dunn. -well... -well, fuck the police. no they're not. -all cops are bad. -where are they? where are they for this guy? why are they not doing anything? woman: why aren't they here to get him off the school property? -where's your cop? -doing something... yet again mike dunn gets to break the law. -you call them. -you call them. your law enforcement is allowing these men to stand on your school property. do you think the police need to come and arrest me for talking? guys, we need to relax.

and then mike dunn tells me how much... don't tell me what to do! fuck you. it's a tyrannical government. they love you. (all shouting) well, i am happy he's exercising his right to protest, and i support that 100%. man with microphone: fuck mike dunn! dakota: for stewart, the future he seemed to want actually looked a lot more like the past. and i'm not sure that living in an imagined bygone world, where men are men would really suit me. now i can decide who i want to be and what i want to believe in. so i've chosen to lightly engage with politics. i'm doing some canvassing for some independent and democrat candidates. it gives me a chance to see what people really feel about things.

(knocks on door) (dog barking) okay. nobody home. which is the usual... ..which seems to be... i am showing up when no-one is home, about three quarters of the time. hi. man: take them democrats and shove them right up your fucking ass. dakota: do you want me to leave a flier? -no. absolutely not. -all right. -all right. -..democrat on it. well, you have a good evening. (train approaching) trump: take a look at your cities. your cities are going to hell. you take a look at what's going on. they're filthy, dirty, they're crime-ridden, and an entire generation of young people could very well be decimated.

and it'll never happen with me. i can tell you that. it will never happen with me. (crowd cheering) and if i win, we will treat those people from january 6th fairly. we will treat them fairly. and if it requires pardons, we will give them pardons. i have definitely been keeping the idea of a trump victory, not just in the back of my mind, but that whole idea is something i've been completely ignoring. yeah, the idea that he could be pardoned? if that, you know, that was a big bet. and i could still lose.

trump: friends, delegates and fellow citizens, we will have an incredible victory. and we will begin the four greatest years in the history of our country. that sucks! dakota: stewart would most likely say that him being a threat to us is laughable. but after the years of apocalyptic anxiety he drilled into us, it's hardly surprising we feel this way. (computer clicks) even as... ..a little kid, i was extremely conscious of not having the connection that i wanted with my father. when i wouldn't say the right things or respond in the right way, and he would get upset, i thought that was something wrong with me,

and that just got worse with time. it left me with a lifelong feeling of being defective and inadequate. i've, like, struggled to make connections and, like, make friends and interact with people in regular life. in point of fact, for a long time i was actively suicidal. i looked up a chart of the exact angle for shooting yourself with a pistol to make sure that you don't accidentally survive with a hole through the back of your neck, or...and a spinal cord or a brain injury, and i saved that to my computer. and that was my plan for the next step, for after i made sure that the rest of my family was okay. because i was so afraid of becoming like stewart,

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all i know is i won't run and hide and neither will my kids. i thought maybe i just need to start again. and it sounds a little radical, but i threw out everything i owned, and i moved into a really generic airbnb with two boxes and, you know, and a trash bag of clothes, and that's it. and i never felt so peaceful, because i just wanted to just... ..not be this tasha and that tasha and not be everywhere, spreading myself thin, trying to make safe spaces and umbrellas for everyone. i just wanted to shut it all down and just kind of restart. and... ..dakota's finally finding a place where he can be himself...

hello. how are you? ..and he can, you know, do what he's good at. (background chatter) -hey, good to see you. -thanks for coming out. all right. thank you all for coming out. it was certainly something opening the door and seeing everybody in here. a lot of you do know me, but just briefly, for people that i'm meeting tonight for the first time, my name is dakota adams. i am the estranged eldest son of elmer stewart rhodes, the founder and president of oath keepers and one of the ringleaders for the january 6th insurrection. and my family's been in the area since we moved to trego to wait out the apocalypse. hasn't happened yet.

i am applying to be your representative in the montana state legislature to extend the ideals of community service and civic responsibility. dakota: so this is the part of the film where, with rousing music, i emerge heroically, as a democrat. i think overall i fit better with them. what i believe in is collaborative government, cooperative government that is not some distant antagonistic force, strange to you. but a structure put together by you, the people. stewart used to give speeches where he would say, "trust no-one." in the end, you only have yourself. but treating everyone as the enemy is exhausting and just makes paranoia worse. so i choose to try and live my life without fear.

to engage with people. and maybe use my experience to help bring some understanding. and whatever happens with stewart, this time i'm choosing to live in a world without the apocalypse as my future. (computer clicks) until next time, this is dakota adams signing off. ♪ -thanks, dakota. -all righty. so i hope you are happy with the footage. i kind of think that i am never going to put this on again.

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