stance is, what he would do as health and human services secretary as it relates to vaccines. cassidy, a physician himself, is very pro vaccine and has been very concerned about rfk jr. s past statements on the issue. now there's a world where cassidy maybe votes yes in the committee to allow the rfk jr. vote to get to the floor for a full vote and then maybe votes no on the floor. if that happens, there would need to be three other republicans that would have to join with him to vote no. so both these nominations right now very much up in the air, but we could get clarity over the next 48 hours. >> we'll be watching following it all very closely. ryan nobles thanks. that does it for us today. thank you for being here. i'll see you back here tomorrow. same time, same place for now. i'm ana cabrera, reporting from new york. jose diaz-balart picks up our coverage right now. >> good morning. 11 a.m. >> eastern. 8 a.m. pacific. i'm jose diaz-balart. >> we begin with. breaking news. just moments.

>> ago, president. >> trump confirmed. >> the u.s. >> tariffs on. >> mexico have. >> been delayed. >> for a month. let's get right to our correspondent. garrett hake. >> is at. >> the white house. >> garrett. >> the president of mexico. and we're seeing. >> her there on our screens, essentially just said moments. >> ago that she. >> had. >> a conversation. >> with president. >> trump over. >> the weekend. >> but then. >> just this. >> morning and that a lot. was achieved. >> yeah. >> jose, these talks. >> have been going on all morning between mexico and canada and. the united. >> states separately. >> here you have. >> president sheinbaum. >> of. >> mexico scooping. >> president trump and announcing. >> that a deal. >> has been reached to avert these tariffs. >> for the next month. >> while negotiations continue. >> the president of mexico saying the deal includes an agreement for mexico to send 10,000 troops, national guard. >> troops, she says, to the. >> border between mexico and the. >> united states. and for the u.s. to stop or curtail weapons shipments from going into mexico. that detail is. absent from president trump's statement, which he.

>> just put out on truth. >> social. confirming the 10,000 troops. >> number and naming. >> secretary of state rubio, treasury secretary scott bessent. and as yet unconfirmed, commerce secretary howard lutnick to be. >> leading the. >> united states negotiations around this issue. the sum total of this, though, is that. >> these 25%. >> tariffs on goods from mexico. >> kicked back. >> another month, something that the president said as recently as friday could. >> not be. >> done. >> saying he didn't want. >> any concessions. >> at that time. >> now, having been granted. >> some, the tariffs are delayed. >> and garrett, this. >> is. >> important that. >> we mention that this is actually happening in real time as we speak. the president. >> of mexico. >> holds her daily news conference from. the palace there. the presidential headquarters in. >> mexico city. she holds. >> these press conferences. >> every day. >> but this morning. she essentially led. >> that with. >> these statements. >> and. >> garrett, important. to underline. >> the 25%.

>> tariff is put on. >> hold for. >> a month. >> the president. >> of mexico saying. >> that that was by mutual. >> accord, 10,000 soldiers, national guards. >> from mexico. >> will. >> be sent to the border between. >> mexico and the united states. fentanyl and the. >> transportation of. >> fentanyl is. >> something that they're going. >> to be. >> working on. and focusing on. >> this. >> as the. >> president of mexico. >> has. >> confirmed that. the deportations. >> from the united. >> states to. >> mexico continue at. >> a regular pace. >> but then there's that. >> issue. >> garrett. >> of weapons. >> and the weapons that mexico. >> claims with. >> authority. many. >> of the high. >> caliber weapons. >> that the cartels. in mexico. have come. >> from the united states. that's something that the united states has been pretty remiss in mentioning. and accepting as a responsibility. >> but all. >> of these.

>> points elucidated. >> in the president. >> of mexico statement. >> but you're saying that in the readout from president trump. that is not mentioned? >> yeah, that's right jose. >> no mention. >> of the weapons portion of this. in president trump's readout, which comes. not from. the nsc, but from the truth social posts. >> that he made. >> a few moments ago. and to your point, this has been part of the back and forth here. the mexican government has long argued that fentanyl has a there's. >> a demand problem. >> with american customers. >> buying fentanyl. we know. >> that most of the people who are ultimately arrested and charged with crimes related to smuggling fentanyl are american citizens. they've wanted to see. action on the u.s. side about this. >> they wanted to see action. >> on the u.s. side. about arming the cartels. so there has been this ongoing back and forth. >> i will. >> say that early. >> this morning. >> talking to senior white house official involved in these negotiations, there were much more bullish. on on an agreement. >> being. >> reached with mexico. on some kind of accord here. they felt.

>> like the. >> mexican government understood what president trump wanted better perhaps, than the canadian government has no paws on the tariffs for our neighbors to the north. there's already been one call this morning between president trump and prime minister trudeau. and president trump has said that there's another call scheduled for later. >> this afternoon. >> perhaps this agreement with mexico could be a form of blueprint for what it might take for the canadians to strike a similar agreement with president trump. >> across the border. >> and so. garrett and i don't. >> know if that. >> news conference that the president. >> of mexico has every single day is still underway. >> but i think that. this the troops. >> the. 10,000 troops at the border. >> is this. >> live, by the way. >> is this live? i just want to know from our. >> is this live? okay. so this is this. >> is live. the president of. >> mexico still, you know, detailing that conversation with. >> president trump. >> and other things. >> but garrett, the issue of sending. >> 10,000 troops to the. >> border from mexico is something that president.

>> trump. >> during his. >> first administration, had. >> been very. >> keen on. asking president andrés. >> manuel lopez obrador. >> to do when at that time he threatened to have some. >> kind of. >> tax on. >> mexican products unless. >> mexico did, among other things, that so this statement today that 10,000 mexican troops are going to be sent to the border with. >> the united states is. significant because. >> it's something that president trump has been very keen on underlying for years now. >> that's right, jose. and candidly, i'm not an expert on mexican law. it's not clear to me what these troops will be able to do in terms of supporting immigration activities. are they allowed to search people going across the border, or is this meant to be a show of force? the president, president trump, likes these big round numbers. he likes the idea of using the military to support border security, as he's done in the united states. but in the

us, the troops that have been sent to the border can't actually participate in immigration enforcement activities. they end up doing kind of logistics related details. they take care of other business so that ice officials and cbp officials can focus more on their core duties. i think one of the follow up questions that we're all going to have is, what exactly will be the mission of these 10,000 troops? when will they get there? what will they be asked to do? is this more about a show of force, or is it more about, you know, kind of a specific interdiction or other border security related goal that they'll be set and tasked with? >> yeah, i. >> mean, the president. >> of mexico said that these were. >> going to be immediate things that were going to be immediately implemented. garrett. thanks. stay with us. i want to bring in cnbc's dominic chu. dom, good morning. so let's talk about the bigger picture, the issue of what. >> is or is. >> not going to happen as far as tariffs. >> so i mean what is or is not going to happen is obviously now

very much in a state of flux. right. because we just got this late breaking news about the conversations, negotiations, if you will, between president trump and president sheinbaum in mexico. now, the interesting issue here now is if you have these delays, what exactly that does to reset talks, as you point out, between the us and canada, remember the canadian 25% tariffs already have an exception put in place for them for energy resources. so oil coming across the border will be taxed or tariffed at a 10% level and not the 25% level. what this will do ultimately is still lead to higher prices for certain goods, especially when it comes to things like automobiles. automobiles becomes the key issue here because of the interlinked supply chains that we have in north america. for many of the producers that make their cars here, sometimes components are made in certain parts, whether they're in the us or mexico or canada. those components are then shipped across borders for other assemblies. and then final assemblies happen sometimes in canada, other places in the

united states, or perhaps mexico. all of these things, if they do cross borders more than one time, those types of things result in tariffs being placed at various points during the supply chain. autos are a key focus now that the one month delay has been put in place for mexico, the concern with the mexican side was about fresh produce, a lot of food items that may have come across the border. remember the estimate out there that's been placed in and cited a lot is that 90% of america's avocados come from mexico. so if you tax those at an additional 25%, you can see a market impact there. but for right now, it is the automotive industry that's a key focus right now, as well as energy and even rail operators, jose are very much in focus right now. a couple of names, in particular, union pacific here in the united states, canadian pacific, kansas city, also, canadian national railways have a large amount of relative exposure to the transportation of goods around north america. so that's going to be a key focus for a lot of

investors right now. and by the way, the markets did react solidly. you can see on the bottom of your screen, the dow is down about 142 points at the lows of the session. we were off over 600 in some points. so we've rallied back markedly on this. now the details become the real issue. the devil is there, of course, as it is always about what types of issues will be on the negotiating table in the coming days and weeks. jose. >> yeah. >> and i'm. >> just wondering, dom, how futures, the futures market is looking. >> yeah. so all of this right now we expected much of this to happen. so when we saw the markets open up down around 650 points for the dow, that was actually less severe than some people had thought about because we had heard so much of the tariff rhetoric last week. and then of course, into the weekend, where we are seeing some of the other sides play out, is in the government bond market here in the us, when there are times of uncertainty, believe it or not, interest rates move lower because in times of uncertainty, people buy up u.s. treasury debt. it's seen

as the safest investment that you can make. so interest rates have actually fallen. the other place to keep a close eye on is in the bond market. with regard to inflation expectations. since about the fall september october inflation expectations as priced by the treasury market have been steadily on the rise. whether or not it stays that way is going to be an issue. the other key point to watch here is the currency dynamic is something i know that you're very keenly focused on. the us dollar is now at the strongest point in a couple of years relative to a lot of other currencies, especially if you look at things like the canadian dollar, the mexican peso and the chinese yuan. by having that dollar strength and weakness in the other currencies, it actually, perversely enough, provides a bit of an offset. the weaker the currency is in mexico and canada, the less expensive their exports become. right? so that's something that all of this is playing out right now. and by the way, fuel prices on the rise

right now. but how long can they stay that way? if economic growth becomes at risk that will be something to watch as well. >> jose garret harkin, dominic chu, thank you both so very much. you know, we're talking concept concepts and details. let's talk about how these concepts and details affect people and governments and actual economies with us. now to continue our conversation is randy carr, ceo of the florida based company world emblem, which is an emblem and patch manufacturer. thank you for being with us. and let's talk about these because these are concepts and these are things you're someone who has actually planned for. and you know, you're responsible for countless employees of. what is it that you're seeing right now? >> i mean, i think the thing. >> is uncertainty, right? so you. >> plan for. >> well. >> the first thing. >> is, i should. >> tell you, we. >> have a. >> 20 year. >> old maquiladora. >> in austin, texas, mexico. >> and so. >> that's that's a manufacturing plant. it's a. >> manufacturing plant in mexico. and we ship anywhere.

>> between a half million and a million. >> patches. >> labels and emblems. >> every. >> day from. >> mexico into. >> the states and. >> into canada. >> so from our. >> standpoint. >> a lot of it's uncertainty. >> we're not sure. >> how to plan. >> we're not really sure. >> what to do moving forward. >> so what. >> we've done is pull back. so when we see this. >> kind of. >> uncertainty, we take all our plans. we basically shelve. them and we stop. all our capex and we stop anything we can do that is. not immediate spending in order to keep the business. properly running. >> and so. >> how long can that be sustained? and number two, you know, you live through some of this in the first trump administration when he was threatening specifically with mexico, where you. have a plant, 25% taxes, if mexico didn't do things. that the president decided to mexico at the time to do. so, how, you know, the past. >> is. >> helpful towards the future. how do you how do you take that into account? >> i mean. like from. where we sit is like hope. >> is the ship.

>> that sank. >> meaning that. >> we have. >> to plan. >> as. >> though it's going to happen and we have to behave accordingly, and then we can pull back. but if there if. this were to occur, we would have to figure out how to either move. volume back to the states or offshore. into other partners around the world and reduce reduce product to. >> the. >> point where it. >> made economic sense in mexico. >> and so it's interesting because your heart and clearly your business model is based on, ideally american based, american built. but you have to take into consideration price point and a whole lot of other things. >> well. >> i. >> think when you. >> look at mexico, canada and the states. >> it's all kind. >> of one big trading. >> partner. >> and it's been built like that. 30 years ago. >> previous to usmca, it was, you know, there were. all right. >> right. >> so it's that. >> whole thing is kind of. >> built that way. and, you know, companies have spent billions of dollars building that infrastructure. now we're a small and small midsize business, but we have spent tens

of millions of dollars. >> building out. >> our infrastructure, training employees. and. >> you know, we. >> have conversations. well, what would it take to get it back into. >> the states? >> well, it would take years, not weeks. it can't. >> be. >> done overnight. >> and, you know, it would take train. >> it's not just the equipment. it's getting the equipment. >> out of. >> mexico and training the employees and. >> then figuring. >> out what is the. economic model. does it make sense? and our clients actually willing to pay the difference in what it costs. >> us to. >> make something, you know, under that sort of global us, mexico, canada model and then just strictly manufacturing in the us, whether that's. >> done or. >> not remains to be seen. >> and so there's the of course, you also have a plant in canada. we do. and so canada seems as we speak at this hour to not be a part of any kind of agreement right now. what are your thoughts concerns about that market. >> it's a little different, you know. as we spoke a little earlier. so much. >> of the volume, like 70%. >> of our. >> volume comes out of mexico. >> 70%. 70% of the totality. >> of your. >> product. >> of a totality of our product

comes out of mexico and then into the states, and then we finish it in the states to get it to our clients. so intermediate goods, sort of semi manufactured goods come out of mexico. they make it to their way in the states. and then we have 300 plus. employees in the states that actually finish that and get it to the. end user. that same model holds true with canada. so we. don't actually export from canada into the states or into mexico. so i think the bigger issue is the tariff. >> coming out. >> of mexico, into the states. >> and. >> into canada right now is what we're mainly concerned about. most of what we do in canada is intra canada so less concerned. >> so it's kind of like a domestic market, kind of less in a way. >> right, right. >> less concerned. >> so very quickly, what are your hopes and dreams and what are your biggest concerns? >> clearly i hope that this goes away clearly. i hope this this goes away. you know, the concern i think is. >> just the. >> unpredictability. you know. that's the. >> i think. >> the biggest. >> thing. like i. >> said earlier, we did. our planning in august of this year, you know, right up until saturday we were moving forward with our. plans from august and

a lot of it's millions of dollars of capex that we have slated for the next 24 months. all that's shelved and a lot of it's tech dev. on generative ai, 3d printing, e-com. so while we're shelving all that, there's a. >> lot. >> of people in the states that are really not working now because we've shelved seven, $8 million of capex. >> so are you hopeful? >> yeah. >> yeah, for sure. i'm very hopeful. and it looks like it's very positive. >> it's a pleasure to see you. i thank you very much for being with us this morning. >> thank you for having me. >> up next, the latest on president trump's war on the federal bureaucracy, why he and elon musk say they have agreed to shut down one key agency they say is beyond repair. plus, an nbc news exclusive report reveals some migrants arrested in the president's immigration crackdown have been released back into the u.s. and right now, officials are pulling the wreckage of an american airlines flight out of the potomac river, five days after a black hawk helicopter slammed into the aircraft, killing everyone on board. we're back in 90s. you're board. we're back in 90s. you're watching jose diaz-balart

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on the federal bureaucracy. last night, the president said this about usaid. >> it's been run by a bunch of radical lunatics, and we're getting them out. usaid, run by radical lunatics, and we're getting them out. and then we'll make a decision. >> joining us now, nbc's gabe gutierrez. also with us, former republican congressman of florida carlos curbelo. he is an nbc news political analyst. so, gabe, where do things stand right now as far as usaid? >> hey there jose. good morning. well, it is not entirely clear whether the trump administration actually has the legal authority to do this without congressional approval. so that's number one. now, five sources familiar with the matter tell nbc news that over the weekend, two high level administrators with usaid. two high level officials were placed on administrative leave after denying access to some sensitive computer systems within the agency. but this all appears to

be part of president trump's promise to purge the federal government. in some ways, he has long railed against usaid for its work across the world. of course, the agency was started back in 1961 under president john f kennedy and has served as the us's humanitarian arm around the world. but as you just heard the president say right there, that he believes it is run by radical leftists and he plans to continue this this purge among several government agencies and the doge department of government. official efficiency seems primed to do this, zach. >> yeah. and i mean, the focus is on what they say is mismanaging all of the resources at usaid controls. carlos, i know that you've worked with usaid in the past. what are your thoughts? well, also look, under. >> the trump. >> administration, in 2018, i visited a usaid program.

>> in peru. it was a coca eradication program to. >> fight drug. >> cartels, to fight. >> the cocaine production process. after those. >> plants. >> were eradicated, they were replaced with cacao plants, cacao. >> farms. >> and this. >> allowed peruvian. >> entrepreneurs to make. >> high quality chocolate. >> this had two. >> significant benefits to the united states. number one, it. >> reduced drug. >> flows into the united states. >> number two. >> it reduced illegal immigration. >> by giving. >> people the. >> opportunity to thrive. >> in their own countries. now, i knew the people who ran usaid. while president trump was last. >> in. >> office, and none of them were radical lunatics. and let's be. >> clear, the president has every right to. >> name whatever. >> personnel he chooses. >> to lead these agencies. >> he certainly. >> has a right. >> to try. >> to root out waste. >> in the federal government. i have. >> no doubt. >> there is some waste at usaid

and it should be addressed. but to cancel. >> this whole. >> agency, number. >> one, as gabe said. >> is likely not legal because. >> i remind. >> people. >> agencies and government programs. >> are. >> authorized and funded by congress. >> so congress has a big role there. >> and number two, some of these programs, sure. >> they have their. >> flaws, but they also do a lot of good things that benefit u.s. national security interests. >> gabe, over the weekend, musk's team also gained control of the system and the treasury department that controls trillions of dollars and payments. musk has posted online about canceling some of these payments, which congress has already approved. what more can you tell us about this? >> well, certainly. and another what critics say is overreach here by the trump administration. as you said this, the treasury responsible for doling out trillions of dollars in social security payments and medicare payments as well. it is unclear what elon musk plans to do with this, but it could be a path to freezing

federal funding. federal government funding, as the administration tried to do last week. he could also get his hands on the do not pay system that lists individuals or contractors that the government has blacklisted. so essentially, it's all part of the trump administration really trying to take the reins of the federal government and do so in ways that are unprecedented and raises a lot of legal questions. so zach. >> and carlos, you know, this is something, again, if anyone is surprised because of these moves, maybe they weren't listening to what candidate trump said for over a year. i'm just wondering, this is all part of what president trump announced he was going to do with as much fanfare and lights and smoke machines as you could get. this is not a surprise. yet

the intensity of it and the depth of it may be surprising. i think that's right. >> he did declare. >> that he was going. >> to radically transform the. federal government. he is doing it now. that doesn't mean that. >> he has a blank. >> check, or that the american. people are going to be 100% patient throughout this process. it also doesn't mean that members of congress, i'm particularly thinking about appropriators. >> who are usually very. >> jealous about the way they fund programs and the way they prioritize programs. at some point, some of those appropriators in congress are going to say, hold on. this is a priority for us, which means it's a priority for the american people. and this president only has a 2 or 3 seat majority in the house. so at some point here, there's going to be some friction, not just with democrats, but also perhaps with some congressional republicans. and the president is really going to have to start coordinating his agenda a little

more closely with the congress instead of just acting unilaterally. >> gabe gutierrez and carlos curbelo, thank you both so very much. right now, crews are using cranes to pull out the wreckage of five days after the deadly plane crash over the potomac. we'll take you live to reagan national airport. plus, the latest on the philadelphia plane crash that killed all six people on board, one on the ground and injured dozens of others. you're injured dozens of others. you're watching jose diaz reports on ♪♪ nature knows best. that's why new chapter vitamins... ...follows her example. ♪♪ transforming nature's 4 billion years of wisdom... ♪♪ ...into supplements. with key vitamins, minerals, and herbs, sourced from whole food ingredients... ♪♪ ...all crafted to work with your body. ♪♪ bringing the power of nature... ...into your new chapter.

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>> 30 past the hour. 30 past the hour. happening now. officials are working to pull the fuselage of an american airlines passenger jet out of the potomac river. the recovery teams are hoping to find the 12 missing bodies out of the 67 victims from wednesday's mid-air collision. nbc's tom costello is with us this morning. tom, investigators recovered the black boxes, both of the airplane and of the helicopter. what do we know so far? >> yeah. >> and actually. >> can i can i show you what i think we have. >> cued up already is video from. >> this morning of the salvage teams out there on the water. >> pulling up one of the aircraft. engines from. this regional. >> jet, the. american airlines regional jet. they've been out there since daybreak. and at about 10 a.m. they actually removed. there you have it. one of the engines from that regional jet. >> and they need to. >> pull hopefully the entire

regional. >> jet up. and it may be. >> coming up. >> in pieces. >> and as you. >> suggested. >> this is a. >> very delicate operation because they. >> believe that there still may be 12 victims inside that jet. they've recovered 55. >> of those. >> people who died. 12 remain, they. >> believe, on. >> the water and. presumably inside the fuselage. >> that's the. >> focus today. >> and they promise. when they. >> come. >> across any victims, it will be a very dignified. process to bring those bodies up and over to a tent on. shore for the medical examiners to begin his work. to answer your question, the. >> black boxes. >> from both the chopper and also the plane were recovered. and they need that data, especially from the black box, to get a very accurate reading on the. >> on the chopper's. >> altitude, because there seems to be a discrepancy between the. black box data that indicated the crash happened at about. 325ft or so, maybe a little less, and data from the air traffic control scope suggesting that the chopper was at 200ft,

which is the maximum it's allowed to fly. if, in fact the black box data from the plane is accurate, then that chopper was flying. above what it's allowed to fly at. and of course, as you know, president trump said that last week. so we're. waiting for a readout on that black box from the chopper to confirm. what its altitude was. in the meantime, the airspace over that river for choppers still closed to all helicopters except police and medevac choppers at this hour. >> by the way, jose. >> this will take some time. this operation is not going to be done today. it could take several days. back to you. tom costello at dca. thank you. and new developments. meanwhile, in another tragic aviation disaster, officials have recovered the cockpit recorder after seven people, including a pediatric patient and her mother, were killed in a medical transport plane crash in philadelphia on friday. three people injured on the ground remain in critical condition. nbc's maya eaglin is in philadelphia this morning. maya. good morning. the latest is that this learjet that crashed did so

less than a minute after takeoff. >> yeah, jose. >> that's right. it took off from the. >> northeast philadelphia airport. >> and in less. >> than a minute, it. actually crashed. we're at the scene here. you can see some officials. this is an ongoing investigation, and everyone is still trying to figure out how this happened. as you mentioned, the national transportation safety board were able to recover the cockpit voice recorder, and they're hoping that that has some additional flight information on there. they were also able to get two of the plane's engines recovered from the scene. those were found eight feet down into the ground. there was a huge crater left from this accident. of course, we know this was from a jet rescue air medical ambulance. at least 222 people injured. i spoke to a manager at a nearby diner where a customer was actually hit by a piece of metal that came through the glass window. listen to what he had to say. and another bystander. and so something came through this

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in the us through temporary protected status. and this morning, nbc news has exclusive new reporting, finding some migrants arrested under trump have been released back into the u.s. joining us now, nbc's julia ainsley and nbc news priscilla thompson from santa teresa, new mexico. so, julia, what exactly do we know about these people were detained and have been released. >> yeah, that's right. they are up against space constraints. even though we know that president trump has made this new push for more arrests and deportations, they still have the same number of beds, just over 40,000 that have been allocated by congress. and they're also court court orders that say that they can't hold anyone indefinitely if they aren't able to deport them. so what that means is that a lot of these non-criminals that they're arresting are then being released back into their communities on alternatives to detention. now, people i spoke to who are familiar with these releases say that they're not considered threats to the public, which means, jose, that when we see these large numbers that ice has been boasting every

day, averaging between 900 and 1000 arrests per day, that doesn't necessarily equate to the deportations that trump promised on the campaign trail. arrest does not always equal deportation, and many times they're released, and many times they still have avenues through the courts to claim asylum and to try to be able to get some kind of legal status here in the united states. so this is just to help frame what we see isn't always the result. >> and so, julie, do we have a breakdown of detentions versus actual deportations in these last two weeks? >> no. in fact, we're looking for that data. and it's been harder because there was a dashboard that ice used to keep which showed how many people had been arrested, how many of those had criminal convictions, deportations. now, really all we're getting are these arrests because that website has been unworkable. so more questions to ask, more data to push for jose. >> and julie. do we know what's behind the trump administration's decision to rescind tps for the venezuelans? >> well, this is something that

trump said that he would do. and we understand now, according to what's been published in the federal register today, that in 60 days, that temporary protected status will expire, so that people who had been here as of october of 2023 and been able to work and live here legally, at least temporarily, will now lose that status. and so for a lot of cities that saw a huge influx of venezuelans, that could really hurt them. if those people aren't allowed to work. we can remember back from two years ago when the shelters started to get very full in those cities. these are problems now the trump administration will face, but this is something trump has said he would do. we should also, though, remind people that on saturday, trump said on truth social he reached a deal with venezuela to start accepting back these migrants. so this could all be part of a plan to try to focus on that population and move them to deportation. but the same thing stands the same space constraints i talked about. so it could be that there are a large number, hundreds of thousands of venezuelans living in this country without the ability to work. >> jose and priscilla. meanwhile, defense secretary

hegseth is expected to be at the border today. >> that's right, jose, this is going to be his first trip to the border in his role as secretary of defense. we know that he's going to be meeting with some of the soldiers that have been deployed here. among the hundreds that have been deployed as part of this border mission over the past several weeks. but he's also going to be talking to the press and taking questions from journalists. and obviously, there's no shortage of things to ask him about, including the news yesterday, with the white house tweeting that photo of marines arriving at guantanamo bay, where they're expected to be helping to prepare a military facility to house migrants. we heard from secretary noem earlier today saying that that facility would be used for the worst first. so appearing to refer to those who may have violent criminal histories and things like that. but she did not rule out the idea that anyone who might be in the country illegally could potentially be sent there. so certainly a lot of things to ask about, but it comes as we're

just seeing this immigration crackdown continue to escalate with the ice raids and the military mass deportation flights that we've seen in recent weeks. and now the state of texas deputizing the texas national guard to make immigration arrests. but i should note that just as we're seeing those enforcement efforts ratcheting up, we also saw over the weekend a number of protests of people taking to the streets protesting what they view as anti-immigrant measures and some businesses even closing in dc today to show americans what a day without immigrants might look like in this country. jose. >> julie ainsley and priscilla thompson, i thank you both so very much. and with us now, john torres, former acting director of ice under presidents bush and obama, he's currently president of security and technology at a consulting company. john, thank you very much for being with us. just wondering, with just the things we were talking about with julia just a minute ago and with priscilla about what's been happening as far as detentions, deportations we're talking about

now, the possibility of rehabilitating parts of the us naval base in guantanamo bay, cuba, to house up to, who knows, ten, 20, 30,000 people. what is your read so far into the trump administration vis a vis these policies? two weeks in. >> yeah. my read. >> is that they're making due on. >> their promises. >> that they were going to. >> really ramp up. >> immigration enforcement. >> including deportations. >> and. >> arrests, but also looking. >> at some. >> of the. >> things that are taking place. >> now. >> knowing that. >> to make that more efficient, to actually make that. >> happen, you. >> need detention space. so with. 40,000 beds and. >> believe me, that's that's. >> probably what it's been for about. >> the past ten. years now. for them to. >> deport a lot. >> more. >> people. >> they're going to need to have additional detention space. >> and that. >> that probably is why. >> they're also taking a look at the. guantanamo bay. now. >> keep in mind. >> ice has always. had some

beds. >> probably less than. >> a thousand over. >> at the naval base in guantanamo, separate. >> from camp x-ray that we. heard a lot about during the terrorism days. >> but having. >> said that, they're talking about ramping up to 30,000 more beds. and a lot of that had to do with the wet foot, dry foot policy down there regarding cubans. >> especially down. >> in south florida. >> yeah, absolutely. and there are different parts of that naval base where, as you say, there is that one highly protected area of that holds actual prisoners, isis prisoners and others. but then there is the other part of the base that, as you point out, was utilized under bill clinton and to some degree under under bush to house people because of wet foot, dry foot policy for the cubans specifically, so that they wouldn't touch american soil in the mainland. they would bring them to that naval base facility. i was there, i saw the

conditions. there were also people, haitians that were held there, but it was essentially for short term and they were very difficult circumstances. i mean, essentially tent cities there. but this would be a different use of guantanamo bay or specifically that area there. >> well, they'd really have to expand on that area. and going back 20 years, there have. been performance based detention standards. >> i'm hearing. >> that they may potentially relax some of those standards that have been in place for the past 15 years plus. and so to take a look at how do you expand from 1000 beds. >> to. >> 30,000 beds is going to require obviously, infrastructure construction. and a lot of work, and potentially they may rely on the military, as you're seeing on the southwest border now. so there's a lot going. >> on. >> not just with detention beds, but in making those arrests. and

who are you prioritizing first, as they're saying, they're going after the criminals first. but if you're going to take an aggravated felony, for example, into custody, there are detention requirements for keeping a mandatory aggravated felon in custody. and so they're going to have to release someone else. it's basically a 1 in 1 out, unless they can continue to remove people more quickly. >> john torres, i thank you very much for being with us. appreciate your time. up next, how top trump officials looked through case files to identify fbi agents who worked on january 6th riot cases. what's next for trump's crackdown at the bureau? trump's crackdown at the bureau? you're watching jose diaz-ba upset stomach iberogast indigestion iberogast bloating iberogast thanks to a unique combination of herbs, iberogast helps relieve six digestive symptoms to help you feel better. six digestive symptoms. the power of nature. iberogast. let's go for a walk, leo! we gonna go poo poo's. we would go on our daily walks...

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