tech ed school in the 90s. we have to change. we have to make these pathways available. so if someone like linda mcmahon and i happen to agree on something like this, you need federal policy to be able to push this. let's outcompete the world. we need education to do that. we need to have a department of education to do that and lean into that. >> well, randi weingarten, thank you so much for coming in, making the case and helping to educate all of us on what the department of education does and its importance. we appreciate you. that does it for us today. i'll see you back here tomorrow. same time, same place. i'm ana cabrera, reporting from new york. jose diaz-balart picks up our coverage right now. >> good morning. 11 a.m. eastern, 8 a.m. pacific. i'm jose diaz-balart. we have breaking news out of.

>> capitol hill. where a. >> senate panel. has advanced robert f. kennedy jr. >> s bid to. >> become the next. secretary of the department of health. >> and. >> human services. >> it comes. >> after republican senator. >> bill. >> cassidy. >> a. >> doctor, signaled he. >> had reservations over kennedy's qualifications, citing his past as a vaccine skeptic. >> but in. >> the. >> end. >> cassidy voted yes after citing the opportunity to work together on other issues. >> kennedy's nomination will now face a full senate vote. joining us now. co-founder of punchbowl news. jake sherman, also an msnbc contributor. >> so, jake. >> good morning. this was well, people were wondering how it was going to turn out. it could have turned out the other way. all on really one vote. >> that's right. i mean. >> listen. >> we have to remember, jose, that when it comes to a president's cabinet. nine and a half times out of ten, the president's party is going to support that nominee. i don't say this as a about trump or about any other. this is a totality that presidents parties tend to support their cabinet

nominee. we saw that with rfk today. we saw that when todd young came out and said that he would support tulsi gabbard for the director of national intelligence role, both, to be honest with you, jose, are unlikely supporters of those two respective cabinet nominees, trump's cabinet nominees. but listen, this is the reality. number one again, party. the president's party tends to support cabinet nominees. number two, donald trump has an iron grip on this party. someone like bill cassidy is up for reelection in 2026. there are political considerations here. and then, as cassidy said, he's taking the nominee or the nomination as a in totality, meaning he doesn't agree with with cassidy, with rfk on some big things, by the way, vaccine policy, vaccine theories. but he sees the opportunity to work with with rfk and other areas. >> yeah. >> and so i'm just wondering on the cassidy issue, it so it was

straight party line vote. >> that's right. there were no. democrats on that committee. and you know, looking at, i don't. >> know. >> bernie sanders. >> etc, there was no. >> possibility that they. >> would vote the other way. >> no chance, no chance especially i mean, listen, democrats have done when they want to do a good job sticking together. they do. and this is one of those instances i didn't think any democrat was really in play in the committee. maybe there's someone on the house on the senate floor rather that will support rfk. i find that pretty unlikely, to be honest with you. but no, this was a party line vote, and that's what we should expect on some of the more controversial nominees. >> and so, jake. >> talking. >> about controversial. >> nominees, tulsi gabbard. >> you're saying. >> that, of course, that. >> seems as. >> though it's. >> looking better. >> for. her today. >> susan collins is a yes on tulsi gabbard. and now todd young is a yes on tulsi gabbard. she's going to get through the senate intelligence committee. i have to imagine most likely she

will get through the senate floor. and donald trump. i mean, we have to say this. donald trump has effectively completed or is on the brink of completing a clean sweep of his cabinet nominees. i mean, it's pretty pretty astounding. and it does speak to number one. it speaks to, again, trump's hold in the party. number two, his the senate republican leadership, which has worked with this white house to get their nominees across the floor. i mean, remember a month ago, two months ago, three months ago, we were talking about recess appointments, which was always this, i would say, media fascination that that donald trump brought up wasn't really tethered to reality. he's going to get all of his nominees across the floor quite quickly. and that's that's pretty impressive. he's outpacing even president joe biden at this point. >> jake sherman on capitol hill, thank you very much, my friend. appreciate it. >> we turn. >> now to more breaking news. nbc news has. just learned and. >> confirmed that the white. >> house is preparing an executive order. to eliminate the department of education, just after making major. >> changes at usaid earlier this week. it comes after elon musk,

who. heads the cost cutting agency. along with the white house, accused the united states agency for international development of wasting. federal funds. joining us. >> now. >> nbc's gabe gutierrez and joel rubin, former deputy assistant secretary of state under. president obama. so, gabe, good morning. >> what do we know about. >> this executive mandate or order to eliminate the department of education? >> hi there jose. >> good morning. well, yes. two sources familiar with the. >> process tell. >> nbc news. >> that yes. as you said, the. >> white. house is preparing an. >> executive order to. >> eliminate the. >> department of education. one source saying that that order could come as. >> soon as this month. >> a separate. >> source says the order will state that the white house will oversee the submission of proposed legislation to congress to close the department. >> of course, congress. >> would obviously. >> need to. weigh on weigh in. >> on this before. >> it would happen now. jose, just this morning, white house officials were. >> saying that this is. >> something that president

trump promised. >> during the campaign. >> so it should come as no surprise. but it's yet another measure that the president and. >> his administration are taking. >> in order. >> to reshape. >> a government. now, as. >> you said, doge. >> along with. >> elon musk, have been. reshaping government and are looking. >> to cut down. usaid and essentially now put it under under the watch of. >> secretary of state. >> marco rubio. so again, that breaking news, though nbc news confirming. that the white house preparing that executive. >> order to. >> eliminate the department of education, something that president. >> trump has said before, he wants. >> that authority. given to the states. jose. >> gabe gutierrez at the white house, thank you very much. so, joel, a lot to go over with you this morning, my friend. >> so i know you. >> actually began your career at usaid. so what kind of work did you. >> do then. >> and how do you define what that agency actually does? >> yeah, jose, it was my first job after graduate school. i had served in the peace corps

before. >> and one thing i need. >> to say at the. >> top is that the people who serve at. usaid are patriots. they are people who advance american national security and our goals around the world and our global leadership. i worked on energy policy, a very important part of not just. >> combating climate. >> change, but also ensuring that american competitiveness would be there abroad. this was a part of a bipartisan level of support. that's the problem here. is that what we're not talking about right now is reform. what's happening is. radical and reckless. it undermines our national security. it weakens us abroad with our allies. it creates a strategic opening for china and russia to exploit. now, now that the united states is no longer dependable and even against secretary rubio's rubric of how to measure if something is effective, it doesn't make us safer, it doesn't make us more prosperous, and it doesn't make us more secure by undermining usaid. so that agency really why. joey?

>> why. >> why because. >> why does it make. >> it less secure? >> there's countless examples, jose, of usaid building partnerships and relationships with governments around the world to stabilize them. for example, we are in gaza. we are in ukraine through usaid building capacity there, civil society, democracy, economic development. we provide funds to the guards that keep isis fighters in syria, in keeping those fighters in prison. that's through usaid. we counter violent extremism around the world and prevent the spread of disease like ebola through usaid. let's just turn our backs on the world, is what this policy says. let's make us isolated, and let's allow ourselves to ensure that we're no longer dealing with threats before we have to send in our military. >> so yesterday, the secretary of state, marco rubio, speaking about usaid, said that one of the big issues that he has had

with this agency is the lack of accountability. this is what the white house said about some of the money and how it's spent in usaid. >> these are some of the insane priorities that that organization has been spending money on, $1.5 million to advance dei in serbia's workplaces, 70,000 for a production of a diy musical in ireland, 47,000 for a transgender opera in colombia, 32,000 for a transgender comic book in peru. i don't know about you, but as an american taxpayer, i don't want my dollars going towards this crap. >> joel, what do you say to that? >> couple of things, jose. first of all, just on the savings, it's very important to remember that less than 1% of the federal budget goes to development overall. and these are minuscule amounts within that. but you know what, senator rubio, then senator rubio and now secretary rubio, he was on the senate

foreign relations committee that approved all of these programs. you know, these have to get notified to congress whenever any dollar goes out. and usaid is known inside the bureaucracy is probably the single most overseen agency by congress. so that was all notified to congress. his team had a look at it. it got through on a bipartisan basis by through capitol hill. so they're really just cherry picking weird examples to try to undermine a broad mission. >> so, joel, you know, it's a good question because, you know, you obviously are in the position to know this. so there actually is a. >> line item. >> of expenditure to every single program, every single dollar that usaid distributes throughout the world to congress. and why is it that it would be problematic for that institution to be under the secretary of state's purview, the state department, where you

worked? >> yeah. >> you're right. jose. yes, there is a line item. it is always notified to congress. and the question about being under state department's purview to be direct about it, it is an ongoing discussion in the international community and the development community. many countries around the world have folded in their development agencies into their foreign ministries, which is what aid would be within state. but that's not what we're talking about here. we're not talking about a legitimate process, structured and organized, where congress is notified and presented a plan that makes sense and doesn't act in a disruptive manner, as we now see. so again, it goes to my first point. this is not about reform. this is a radical departure from how we should be doing business overseas. if it moves towards reform, all the better. but right now, the way that the agency is being treated and its personnel is deeply disruptive. >> joel rubin, thank you very much. it's always a pleasure to see you. i thank you for your time. >> thanks, jose. >> up next, breaking. >> overnight. the trade war

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with china. overnight, the u.s. imposed an additional 10% tariff on all goods coming in from china. china responded by announcing new tariffs on american goods, including crude oil, coal, farm machinery, pickup trucks, starting next monday. this comes after the president delayed imposing tariffs on canada and mexico, after both countries agreed to boost border security, among other things. with us now, cnbc's dominic chu and nbc news international correspondent janis mackey frayer in beijing. so, dom, how will all these new tariffs affect us? >> that's a good question. so the conventional wisdom and maybe. >> just the practical. >> reality, jose, is that when costs rise, somebody pays for them. either the company that sells the goods eats the added costs and takes the hit to the profit margins that it has, or those higher costs are just passed on to the end consumer. or there could be some combination of both, right. it's a it's a lever. the other scenario that's the troubling

one is that nobody pays for them, and not in a good way. if higher prices are there. and they are so discouraging that it kills demand for those goods. consumers just find substitutes and alternatives, and then companies stop buying them to sell. that is the big issue in question, facing not just the economists and academics out there, but also lawmakers and central bankers around the world. the question is, will a regime of possibly higher prices ultimately lead to lower demand and production levels all around the world, which could result in longer term economic slowdowns, recessions, or possibly worse? now, that sounds dire, but i want to caveat that with what has been the reality over the past several years. and that's a scenario where the consumer response has been somewhat relatively positive. now, we had a massive inflationary threat, the likes of which we hadn't seen in over 40 years. the american consumer did still manage to spend money. so this is very much about whether that

american consumer will continue that trend or get more conservative and save those pennies for a rainy day. that's the issue facing consumers right now. >> and janice, the chinese response wasn't just tariffs. what else did they do? >> well. >> it was. right when president trump's china tariffs went into effect at midnight. >> that beijing was. >> waiting, poised to strike back. >> with these measures on multiple fronts, as you mentioned. first, imposing those. >> additional tariffs. >> on a range of u.s. imports coal, liquefied. natural gas, crude oil, farm machinery. it's also targeting some car imports, namely pickup trucks. and they announced additional. export controls on. >> certain critical metals. >> and there's more. china also announced an antitrust probe into google, which. is not the first for the company. it doesn't do a lot of. >> business here. >> because the search engine is blocked, but it could be disruptive for chinese companies and two american companies. pvh

group, which owns clothing brands like calvin klein and tommy hilfiger, and. >> illumina. >> a gene sequencing startup, are being added to the unreliable entity list here, meaning they're effectively blacklisted. >> from doing business. >> now, altogether, these measures affect roughly. 30% of u.s. exports to china. >> so. >> it's unlikely to make a huge dent in the us economy. economists say it's more symbolic, that it's designed more as a message from china that it could get a lot worse, and that china, and in particular, xi jinping, do not want to be seen as caving to president trump. or to the us. jose. >> yeah, i mean, janice. so because president trump spoke with the leaders of mexico and canada yesterday, he is not apparently spoken yet to the leader of the regime in china, xi jinping. what's the feeling there? is there no communication going on? >> well. >> the uncertainty. >> now is whether this is all. >> negotiating tactics or if

it's indeed. >> the beginning. >> of a deeper trade offensive. china has said that. >> the tariffs are going to take effect on. >> monday. >> february 10th. that's nearly. >> a week away. >> that leaves a little time for talks. and president trump has said he had planned to speak with president. >> xi in the coming. >> days, but it isn't clear when. or if that call is going to happen. both sides are looking. >> for leverage here. >> and both sides appear to be finding it. what we should take note of, jose, is that this is not a contentious. relationship between president trump and president xi right now. president trump invited him to his inauguration. president xi sent his vice president. it's not to say that there is all goodwill between the two sides, but there does seem to be this willingness to talk. >> another thing we need. >> to keep in mind is that china is just coming off of an eight day national holiday. it was the lunar new year, followed by the spring festival. so the government hasn't been

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>> sign up for. >> msnbc daily@msnbc.com. >> 23 past the hour. today, israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu is set to meet with president trump at the white house, becoming the first world leader to visit him since the president returned to the white house. the two leaders are meeting as the israel-hamas ceasefire enters a new phase of negotiations, which could lead to the release of more israeli hostages and palestinian prisoners. joining us now from tel aviv is nbc's yasmin vossoughian, also with us, richard haass, president emeritus of the council on foreign relations. so, yasmin, how is the prime minister's visit being seen there? >> listen. >> jose, as you as you. >> well know. >> prime minister. >> netanyahu is. >> not nec >> popular in. >> a liberal. >> bastion like tel aviv. >> if you were to go to jerusalem. >> for instance, that would be a different conversation. >> but for. >> the most. >> part, his leadership has not been incredibly.

>> popular over. >> the last. >> three plus years. >> now. >> with. >> the. >> involvement of. >> president trump. >> there has certainly. >> been a shift, it. >> seems. >> in the confidence. >> of actually. >> getting and keeping. >> a deal done. >> and what. >> is so. >> interesting to see. >> is both the voices that are. >> coming out. from israelis and palestinians, while they both agree. on what they see as. >> a. >> lack of leadership from. >> prime. >> minister benjamin netanyahu. they see as hopefulness with president. >> trump's involvement in. >> these ceasefire negotiations. >> let's take a little. >> bit. >> of. >> a. listen to what i have heard. >> so far in the. >> streets of tel aviv, where our team picked up in gaza. and then we'll talk. >> on the other side. >> i really hope that trump will. >> manage to. >> put enough pressure on bibi. >> to end this. >> war, and to. >> give us a life back. because eventually. >> me. >> my family, my friends, we just want to get back to live. >> i think. >> this visit. >> never shut down. israel to

continue. aggression to palestinian people. so we hope that israeli and. american president. >> make. >> make the middle east special. palestine safe. and peace. >> so far apart on ideologies, but. >> close when it comes. >> to their view. >> on these. >> ongoing negotiations. i also just spoke to lee siegel, by the way, who is. >> the brother. >> of keith siegel, the first israeli american hostage to in fact be released. he, too, says he has. >> a modicum. >> of. >> confidence in these. >> negotiations that. will be happening, these meetings that will be happening between president trump and prime minister bibi netanyahu. look for two things coming out. >> of. >> this. >> thing, of. >> course, more information on. >> the. >> phase two. >> that we are now moving into of the ceasefire deal, along with likely conversations. >> happening when. >> it comes to nuclear

proliferation inside iran. >> jose. >> yasmin vossoughian, thank you so very much, my friend. really appreciate it. so, richard, let's talk about that. there seems to be among some quarters, some hope that maybe with the new administration in the united states, things could change. but the question is, would they change or could they change for the better or or for the worse? how do you see it? well, certainly one of the two the signals. >> have been mixed. >> the new. >> administration. >> jose, as you know, pushed very hard to. >> get the. >> phase one going. >> to. >> get the. >> initial hostage for prisoner swap there. i think there's a question as to how hard they push. >> to get to phase two. and phase two is much more difficult. it essentially means israel has to. >> vacate all. of gaza. >> it has to. >> accept the reality that. >> hamas is still there. we see. >> we saw hamas come out of the tunnels the other day. >> they'd have to accept. >> an open ended ceasefire. >> in return. >> you'd get the rest. >> of the hostages out.

>> but it's a. real question. >> about whether bibi. >> netanyahu. >> given his coalition and so forth, is willing. is willing. >> to go there. and i. >> think for the administration, there's. >> a. big decision as. to whether. >> or how much to push. and as you know, also, the administration has rescinded a lot of the original sanctions against the settlers who committed acts of violence. >> against palestinian. >> citizens, against palestinian property. and my point is simply, the administration has been, shall we say, somewhat all over the place in trying to. figure out its policy towards this israel and this government. yeah. and so and yet and it seems as though benjamin netanyahu arrives to the united states in a far stronger, even with what you're saying about the different elements within his cabinet. he he arrives to the united states in a stronger political and certainly military position that he has since, i guess, before the 7th of october. 100% accurate. and his

popularity has gone up considerably in israel. as well. >> the one thing that makes him, though. >> slightly uneasy, i bet, is donald trump. and that may not be immediately obvious. but when joe biden was president, bibi netanyahu could always in some ways play to republicans in congress or talk about when trump would be president and so forth. well, right now donald trump is president. and if donald trump leans on bibi netanyahu for whatever set of reasons, then bibi netanyahu has nowhere else to go. he can't do an end run around him to the democrats or anybody else. so a lot depends, quite honestly, on what the new administration decides to do, how hard they're prepared to press and for what. and again, you mentioned the iran issue. there's also the issue of the saudi arabia. if the administration wants to normalize relations between israel and saudi arabia, to build on the abraham accords from mr. trump's first term, then again, there might be more pressure on the israeli prime minister than he's than he's

used to. so, you know, a lot of things in motion here, jose. yeah. and there was movement between israel and saudi arabia before the 7th of october for some progress. but richard haass, it's always a pleasure to see you. i thank you for being with us this morning. >> thank you. >> and breaking just moments ago, the white house confirmed the first flight to guantanamo bay carrying undocumented migrants is currently underway. plus, el salvador's president makes a deal. his proposal to house convicted criminals from the u.s. inside the country's notorious mega prison, including u.s. citizens. it's a deal. we're going to talk about next. we're going to talk about next. you're watching jose d here's to getting better with age. here's to beating these two every thursday. help fuel today with boost high protein, complete nutrition you need, and the flavor you love. so, here's to now... now available: boost max!

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house in his jails dangerous american criminals in custody. >> in our country, including those. >> of u.s. citizenship and legal residence. no country has ever made an offer of friendship such as this. >> joining us now, nbc's aaron gilchrist. aaron. good morning. let's start with the flight carrying migrants going to guantanamo. what else do we know about that? >> well. >> jose, the white house press secretary, caroline leavitt, just announced that in a tv interview this morning that the first flight carrying undocumented migrants from the united states to guantanamo bay, cuba, has been in the air this morning. this, of course, follows the expansion of raids that we've seen the president keeping his promise to conduct mass deportation of migrants who are in this country illegally. in particular, last week when he signed this order saying that the department of defense and homeland security should work together to open up 30,000 beds, potentially for migrants for who

are here in the states illegally. the idea was from the press secretary that they would send the worst of the worst people who have committed murders and rapes in this country, who are here illegally. they would be going to guantanamo bay as a stopover before the deportation process is complete, and they will return to their home countries. >> and so, erin, i want to kind of because something i've been thinking about, there are different parts of the naval base that can be set up to do different things. and the video that we've been showing is, if i'm not mistaken, video of where the high value terrorist suspects have been held. you know, isis, etc, in guantanamo bay. those are the maximum security area. but there are other areas in guantanamo naval base that have been utilized many times, even during the 90s, to house migrants, including,

you know, cubans and haitians. so this is the part that the white house says they're being sent to. >> right. you're absolutely right. there's an area there in guantanamo bay where we know for years there have been folks who've been taken into custody for terrorism, people who were connected to nine over 11, for example, they've been housed in a high security area there at guantanamo bay. our understanding is that now they're probably just a handful, maybe 10 or 15, who fit that description that are now at guantanamo bay. there is separate space there that has been used for migrants in the past. that is being, as we understood it last week, was to be retrofitted, to be made sure that it could house migrants. now, in a way that is humane as they go through the deportation process, facilities that are separate from those that were to be used for terrorists, quite frankly, and can now be used in a way that would allow for bed space and for meals and for housing these migrants before

they return to their home countries. jose. >> aaron, what else do we know? meanwhile, about the offer by nayib bukele, the president of el salvador. >> well, according to secretary of state marco rubio, and what we've seen from president bukele on his social media post, the offer was made by that country to take american citizens who are in prisons in this country and house them at a massive maximum security facility in el salvador. and the idea being that the us would pay the el salvador to provide this space for those people. you heard secretary rubio say that it was an extraordinary offer from the el salvadoran president. and it was something that really there's not been any talk here in the states, jose, about accepting that offer, about trying to move american citizens into prisons in other countries. it's not a plan that's in the works right now, although it definitely stands out, as you heard the secretary say, is something that is extraordinary.

you have to imagine, jose, that there would be a lot of legal activity if there were an effort to effectuate, effectually deport american citizens and put them in a jail in in el salvador. it's just something that that, to this point, doesn't seem to really be on the table. >> aaron gilchrist in washington, thank you very much this morning. president trump's asylum shutdown is facing its first major legal test. yesterday, immigration advocacy groups filed a lawsuit challenging the trump administration's policy of denying migrants asylum at the border. they allege the government is returning asylum seekers, quote, to countries where they face prosecution or torture without allowing them to invoke the protections congress has provided. the white house responding, saying, quote, president trump was given a resounding mandate to end the disregard and abuse of our immigration laws and secure our borders. joining us now, lee gelernt, deputy director of the immigrants rights project for the aclu, one of the groups behind the lawsuit. lee, it's

always a pleasure to see you. i thank you for your time. so why is the aclu suing the trump administration over this specific policy? >> yeah. well, so this specific policy shuts down all. >> asylum by any means. >> there is no way. >> now to apply. >> for asylum, whether at a port of. >> entry, illegal port of. >> entry or between ports, that is. patently unlawful. and so we and our partners have brought this lawsuit, because the united states must have an asylum system. and i think there's two. >> themes here. >> one is. >> that there are going to be. >> countless people sent back. >> to danger. but the other theme is, you know, what you've hit on before is a separation of powers. >> question. >> what the. >> president is. >> doing is overriding what. >> congress has done, painstakingly. >> done over the past four decades, to. >> build our asylum. >> system, to make sure the united states. has a place for. >> people to apply for asylum. >> that we're acting consistently with. >> international law, with the rest of the country. and fulfilling our commitment after

world. >> war. >> two. >> never to send people back to danger without. >> at least. >> a screening. >> and so, lee, how is it that in our american history, it seems as though the executive has been almost unilaterally the one to define asylum or lack of it? and i'm thinking, you know, trump's first administration, mpp, any number of things that they instituted, title 41. and then under president biden, you know, the app, but also in many ways, at the end of the administration, essentially shutting down ways that people could request asylum. other than that app, where is the role of the presidency and where is the role and the responsibilities of congress? >> right. well. >> you're exactly right. the president has some authority in the immigration area and foreign affairs. but he cannot override. express statutory prohibitions

on sending people back to danger. without a screening. and so that's why. >> we've brought this lawsuit. >> the president is. asserting authority. >> that he does. >> not have. and. >> you. >> know, congress. >> is. >> sitting by. >> silently now. >> but we. >> are. >> going to bring this case. the president is saying, well, he has. >> a mandate. i don't think he has a mandate to send everyone back to persecution or torture. but regardless. he has to follow the law. he can't say. >> well, the american. >> public want. >> me to do this, so therefore i'm just going to violate congress's wishes. >> league alert, thank you very much for being with us this afternoon. i thank. >> you for having me. >> right now, live pictures of recovery crews on the potomac river hauling pieces of wreckage from last week's deadly mid-air collision. where the investigation stands at this hour. plus, talk to congressman brendan boyle, the top democrat on the budget committee, about the new trade war between the us and china. congressman, it's great to see you. we'll chat in great to see you. we'll chat in just a minute. you're -what've you got there, larry? -time machine.

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what's your reaction to this news that the white house is seeking to eliminate the department of education? >> it's extreme to the max. it's also par for the course for the last couple of weeks. absolutely no swing voter i interacted with in pennsylvania voted for donald trump because they wanted to eliminate the entire department. of education. they want government to work better. >> they want. >> prices to come down. but no, donald trump has no mandate to do this whatsoever. furthermore, what president trump is attempting to. do to usaid and to treasury and. >> now the. >> department of education, he cannot do by fiat. he is not a king. if you were going to create or eliminate a federal department, you actually need both the approval of congress as well as the president. so he can't do this and we won't let him get. >> away. >> with it. >> so, congressman, and, you know, on the issue, for example, of the department of, you know,

just on this case, for example, education, this was created by an executive decision, right? well, it was originally created. how does that work? >> i mean, president carter. >> i believe when he created h.e.w. >> was the was the original name. >> health. >> education and welfare. and then it grew out of that. but it is in it is by statute the same way. usaid. >> while it was. originally created. >> by executive order, ultimately it was created, codified into law. >> by an act of congress. >> so, no, the president can't just, you know, wake up one morning and decide he's eliminating an entire department. it would also cause such chaos. i mean, there are tens of millions of people, myself included, by the way, who are repaying student loans that are currently operated and owned by the department of education. what would happen to those? what would happen to pell grants?

those are just two of the many, many questions that. >> would have to be. >> answered if. >> you. >> went down this extreme, crazy path of. >> eliminating the. >> department of education. >> and what are your thoughts on usaid? because the secretary of state, marco rubio, said, i guess yesterday that essentially usaid had been put under his. responsibility. what do you what do you think of that? and then just the issue that the secretary talked about, which is the lack of accountability of usaid when we're learning that really every single dollar that usaid received and was spending had to be through the congress. >> yeah. i mean, every single dollar, as you pointed. >> out. >> the usaid spent was appropriated by congress and signed into law by the president. so those are dollars

that need to be spent, were legally appropriated. you know, usaid does incredibly important work. they don't have a large budget. i know a lot of people, and this is never a popular argument. i realize foreign aid is never easy to defend. it's well below 1% of our budget, but we get a demonstrated return on that investment. i find that a number of voters might think foreign aid is 10%, or 15% of our federal budget is actually a drop in the bucket, but in the end, we get a return on that investment in so many ways, both large and small. >> congressman boyle, it's always a pleasure to see you. i thank you for being with us this morning. quorum call be vitiated. the presiding officer: without objection. mr. cassidy: mr. president, i'd like to make a statement regarding my vote in committee to -- on behalf of robert f. kennedy to be secretary of hhs.

first i think everyone who has contacted me over the last few days, almost all have been respectful and seek the best for our country. i have been contacted by text, phone, and e-mail. if i didn't respond to anyone, it's not to be rude, it's just i was getting hundreds of messages a day personally and thousands through the office and i just physically could not. mr. president, believe it or hot, of these hundreds of people calling or kakting me -- contacting me, many of them disagree with each other three dimensionally, they disagreed. the unifying factor is they all sdooir the best for -- desire the best for our country even though they differ from each other so much, and maybe that kind of frames my feelings about this nomination. for context, before entering politics, before even thinking about running for political

office, i practiced medicine for 30 years in a public hospital for the uninsured, caring for those who otherwise would not have been able to afford the access for care that i provided. after seeing people die from vaccine-related diseases i dedicated my time with vaccine dedicated programs and monitoring the effectiveness of vaccines. vaccines save lives. this is something -- this is something that concerned me with robert f. kennedy to be the secretary of health and human services. this is something i took very seriously, and as i said i would, i spoke with mr. kennedy not once, but multiple times over the weekend including this morning. we had in-depth conversations about the medical literature, about the science behind the safety of vaccines, i

reviewed and spoke to those who he said i should speak to. the most notable of opponents of mr. kennedy were peed trigsz on the front lines of our children's health who regularly have to combat misinformation. combating vaccine skepticism with correct information. correct information that comes from their indication -- education, their training and experience a they would not have contracted if the have contracted if the child was vaccinated. others are looking at the need

to address chemicals in our food and that we are victims of the forces maximizing profits while sacrificing our health. there is evidence for that. although food safety is principally a food and drug administration. others fear an environmental risk. mr. kennedy's history of of he can make a difference. so as i looked how to resolve this, i returned to where i began. would it be possible to have mr. kennedy collaborate in helping public health agencies re-earn the trust of the american people? now, regarding vaccines, mr. kennedy has been insistent that he just wants good science and to ensure safety. but on this topic, the science is good,

the science is credible. vaccines save lives. they are safe. they do not cause autism. there are multiple studies that show this. they are a crucial part of our nation's public health response. but as someone who has discussed immunizations with thousands of people, i do recognize that many mothers need reassurance that the vaccine their child is receiving is necessary, effective, and most of all, safe. while i'm aligned with mr. kennedy as regards ultra processed food, reforming nih and taking on chronic disease once more, it leaves vaccines. now, mr. kennedy and the administration reached out, seeking to reassure me regarding their commitment to protecting the public health benefit of vaccination. to this end, mr. kennedy and the administration committed that he and i would have an unprecedentedly close collaborative working

relationship if he is confirmed. we will meet or speak multiple times be a month. this collaboration will allow us to work well together and therefore to be more effective. mr. kennedy asked for my input into hiring position at health and human services and this will allow us to represent all sides of those folks who are contacting me over this past weekend chth he has also -- weekend. he has committed that he has worked with current vaccine and monitoring systems and not established parallel systems. if confirmed, he will maintain the centers for disease control advisory committee on recommendations without changes. cdc will not remove statements on their website, pointing out that vaccines do not cause autism. mr. kennedy and the administration also committed that this administration will

not use the subversive techniques used under the biden administration like sue and settle to change policies enacted by congress without first going through congress. mr. kennedy and the administration committed to a strong role of congress, aside from he and i meeting regularly, he will come before the help committee on a regular basis. he said that the help committee chair may choose someone -- if confirmed, there will be a 30-day notice to the help committee if the agency seeks to make changes to any of our vaccine safety monitoring programs and the help committee will have an option to call a hearing to further review. these commitments and my expectation that we can have a great working relationship to make america healthy again is the basis of my support.

he'll be the secretary, but i believe he will also be a partner in working for this end. if mr. kennedy is confirmed, i will use my chairman to rebuff any removal of lifesaving vaccines without ironclad scientific evidence that can be accepted and defended before the mainstream scientific community and before congress. i will watch carefully for any effort to wrongly sow public fear about vaccines between confusing references of coincidence and anecdote. my support is built on insurances that this will not have to be a concern and that he and i can work together to build an agenda to make america healthy again many we need a -- again. we need a letter at hhs