up for msnbc daily at msnbc. com. >> it is good to be back with you on this second hour of chris jansing reports at this hour in on the plan. how much israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu knew about president donald trump's proposal to take over the gaza strip and turn it into the riviera of the middle east? what the white house press

secretary said just moments ago. plus, from surprising to speechless, how members of congress are reacting to that plan and getting out inside nbc news exclusive reporting that the department of defense is now drafting plans to withdraw all u.s. troops from syria. also forced out, usaid says nearly all direct hires across the globe will be placed on administrative leave this week, as the government works out a plan to get them back to the u.s. our nbc news reporters are following all of the latest developments. let's begin with the latest on trump's comments about taking over gaza. nbc's kelly o'donnell is at the white house, where the press briefing wrapped up just a very short time ago. kelly, what did we learn? >> well, certainly the press secretary was pressed on a number of the lingering questions after the stunning announcement by the president that was echoed by the israeli prime minister last night about a u.s. takeover and redevelopment of gaza that would include the displacement of

palestinians who call that piece of land as war torn and devastated as it is their home. so part of what we learned is the press secretary, caroline leavitt, was asked about how much of a plan exists, and she did say that in a written form, the president's remarks were the start of a plan, and now many of his advisers are working to flush that out. she was also asked about the knowledge of the prime minister, a guest of the president today. they had lots of time to speak in private and with their top leadership prior to this event. and leavitt said that in fact, netanyahu did have advance warning. here's part of that exchange with reporters. >> as for whether prime minister netanyahu was aware before the president's remarks, he was indeed i wasn't present for that reaction. but again, this is something the president has been socializing and thinking about for quite some time. >> and so this is not a new

thought for the president, but it was certainly a new thought on the world stage in the way the president described it. also today, leavitt moved the ball on some issues. she was asked repeatedly about u.s. troops. she said that the president did not commit to that. however, the president did, in response to my question, say that he expected a permanent occupation and development and ownership that almost always requires, if not always, requires, u.s. troops. even when contractors are in a place where the u.s. is taking care of issues, there are there's force protection. the army corps of engineers is the army. and so real question still about what his vision of that is could not really state who would hand over the keys to gaza, to use a colloquial expression there that is a sovereign territory. she did say that hamas has been politically in charge and that that is not sustainable. that does not answer the underlying question of how the u.s. would acquire

gaza. chris. >> kelly o'donnell. thank you. well, some republicans are among the critics of donald trump's plan for gaza. i want to bring in nbc news senior national reporter sahil kapur. what are you hearing, sahil? from both sides. >> well, we're hearing a mix of shock and befuddlement. for starters, chris, the u.s. taking control of gaza was not on anybody's trump bingo card this week. the first thing that members of congress are wondering is, is this a real plan that president trump intends to execute, or is he just sort of idly musing about foreign territories the way he has done recently with greenland and canada? now, what usually happens in these sorts of situations when trump says something that surprises members of congress is that some republicans do feel the need to come out and defend what he said. take a look at what speaker mike johnson said. >> yeah, we're trying to get the details of it, but i think this is a good development. we have to back israel 100%. and so whatever form that takes, we're interested in having that discussion. but it's it was a

surprising development, but i think it's one that we'll applaud. >> so but on the other side of the capitol, numerous republicans were not quite so supportive. take a look at senator rand paul of kentucky says, quote, the pursuit of peace should be that of the israelis and the palestinians. i thought we voted for america first. we have no business contemplating yet another occupation to doom our treasure and spill our soldier's blood, unquote. essentially, senator rand paul suggesting that this would be a betrayal of trump's own campaign promise. senator lindsey graham, who often disagrees with rand paul, said this was problematic. and senator thom tillis, the north carolina republican, said there are a few kinks in that slinky. that's a direct quote from senator tillis. now, democrats were less subtle in their pushback. senator tim kaine called this idea deranged and nuts. senator ruben gallego dared trump to seek congressional approval, suggesting that that was never going to happen if he tried to move forward with it. and then there's senator chris. take a look at how he responded when our colleague frank thorp asked him about this, he literally covered his eyes with his hands.

he says, quote, you can report that i was speechless. he goes on, that's insane. i can't think of a place on earth that would welcome american troops less, and where any positive outcome is less likely. and of course, chris, one of the suggestions of lawmakers is that the mere suggestion of the us taking control of gaza could make u.s. bases and u.s. assets in the region a target. >> sahil kapur a lot to unpack for us. thank you so much. let's go now to exclusive new reporting on the pentagon's plans for a full withdrawal from syria. nbc's courtney kube broke that story. she joins us now. now in his first term, donald trump's defense secretary, jim mattis, resigned in protest when trump told him to pull u.s. troops out of syria. so what's going on at the pentagon now? yeah. >> so it's not a surprise. >> chris, that. >> president trump in this term also may be considering pulling u.s. troops out of syria. >> but i. >> think what this story really does. >> is it. >> illustrates how the pentagon is. operating and planning under

this new trump presidency. and by that, i. mean he is he is saying. >> things publicly. >> and his advisers are about ideas he may have. and the pentagon is beginning to plan for the eventuality of some of those ideas. you were just talking. >> to kelly. >> we've been speaking. >> all day, actually, today about. >> his comments. >> about the potential. >> for u.s. military to be. >> used in gaza. >> now. >> at this point. >> there are no plans for the u.s. military. there's no planning going on for that. but this this the story about the pentagon beginning to plan for the possibility of withdrawing from syria just shows how they are trying to be proactive about things that donald trump is saying and. writing on social media. >> in this case. >> however, chris. >> u.s. official military officials believe president trump really does intend to pull. all u.s. troops out of syria. the pentagon is looking at plans for a 30, a 60, or a. >> 90 day withdrawal timeline. >> and then. >> if, in fact, the president orders those plans implemented, he will decide. which one of

those. >> he wants. >> to carry out. now, the concern here is what. will happen to the u.s. partners on the ground in syria who are continuing to. >> fight isis and very critically. >> secure isis prisoners. there's more than 50,000 people. who are at isis prisons and at displacement camps throughout syria. that is, many women and children at those displacement camps, but they're somewhere in the neighborhood of nine or even 10,000. >> hardened isis. >> fighters who were being held by the syrian democratic forces, the u.s. ally on the ground there. without u.s. support. the concern is those prisons could be vulnerable to either prison breaks, or the sdf may just have to turn to their offensive operations and turn away from their prison detention operations. >> chris courtney kuby, thank you. now to usaid, where nearly all direct hires are being put on leave. nbc's vaughn hillyard is covering this story for us. so what happens? there are thousands of american workers who would fit into that

category, who are posted overseas, and how big of a job will it be just to get them home? >> extraordinary. and the millions of dollars it will take is difficult to exactly add up here. chris. the order overnight from usaid for all usaid officials and staff overseas to return to washington, d.c. is a stunning development. at this point in time, there is more than 80 missions across the globe. i was talking with somebody familiar with the ukraine mission just a bit ago who said, this is not just a matter of, you know, humanitarian aid and assistance. this is basic about national security. in the case of ukraine, for example, there are more than 200 american usaid personnel that are on the ground that are helping with the energy grid here in the dead of winter, that help with the agricultural industry. if i was talking with another individual who is familiar with the missions in africa, who says that when it

comes to the humanitarian assistance in terms of foreign aid, financially, even if waivers are to be granted that allow that money to funnel into countries in africa into specific programs, there's no personnel on the ground to actually implement it, provide oversight and work with the contractors to ensure that in so many situations, life saving food and funding is able to make it to these places. at 3 p.m. eastern, that's just about an hour from now. there is supposed to be an update from the state department in terms of some personnel who are determined to be critical of functioning here, but the consternation at usaid, outside of the thousands here domestically that have been placed on administrative leave or fired or furloughed, is about those men and women overseas who in many cases have been there for years and with their families and now are figuring out how they are going to not only leave the missions that they care so much about, but how they are going to return with

their families and exactly how the funding will even be approved to do that, to return here to washington, d.c. it's really quite stunning development here from the state department and with very few answers coming from the administration on exactly how these individuals, thousands of them overseas, are supposed to return to the u.s. >> chris vaughn hillyard, thank you. in 90s, the intense pressure on federal workers stay in the job or take a payout and leave. the warning we're hearing from democrats about that choice, with just hours left to choice, with just hours left to decide. here's to getting better with age. here's to beating these two every thursday. help fuel today with boost high protein, complete nutrition you need, and the flavor you love. so, here's to now... now available: boost max!

safelite replace. but replacing. >> your windshield. >> doesn't have to be. >> go to safelite. >> go to safelite. i'm getting vaccinated... ...with pfizer's pneumococcal pneumonia vaccine. so am i. because i'm at risk for pneumococcal pneumonia. i'm getting prevnar 20 because pneumococcal pneumonia could put me in the hospital and my risk is 6 times greater because i'm over 50. the cdc just expanded its recommendation for those 50 or older to get vaccinated. you're also at risk if you're 19 or older with certain chronic conditions. prevnar 20 is proven to help protect against both pneumococcal pneumonia and invasive pneumococcal disease in just one dose. don't get prevnar 20 if you have a severe allergy to its ingredients. a weakened immune system may lower your response. common side effects include injection site pain and swelling... ...fatigue, headache, muscle and joint pain. millions have chosen prevnar vaccines, which have helped protect adults for over a decade and have an established safety profile. that's why i chose prevnar 20. i want to be able to keep my plans. ask your doctor or pharmacist

about prevnar 20. (♪♪) the office of personnel management now telling workers in a new memo that many agencies will be downsized and layoffs loom as they push a buyout offer that expires tomorrow, just before midnight. most employees have had only about a week to decide whether to resign and, in exchange, receive pay and benefits through september. faced with that pressure, the washington post says, quote, a combination of panic, distrust, anger and resentment has seeped into the nation's federal workforce. nbc's gabe gutierrez is reporting from washington, d.c. also joining us, michael steele, former rnc chairman and cohost of msnbc's the weekend, as well as an msnbc political analyst. so, gabe, a spokesperson for the office of personnel management, says more

than 20,000 employees have accepted the buyout offer. that's, i should say, first of all, a fraction of doj's stated goal. and it's still not clear where the money to pay them is coming from. but what do we know about what happens now? >> hi there chris. well, yes, as you said, more than 20,000 have accepted the buyout so far. the white house does expect that number to rise significantly in the last 24 hours before the deadline, which, by the way, is on thursday. but there are lots of questions from legal experts, from unions advising federal employees not to take the buyout. now that the 1% is significantly less than the white house's stated goal of cutting 5 to 10% from the federal workforce. and by the way, chris, i should mention that the federal that the attrition rate annually for federal workers is about 6%. so it's possible some of the people that do take the buyout may end up leaving anyway. but this comes as there's a broader restructuring, as you said, with

regards to the federal government, usaid employees, staff around the world, all direct hires told they will be placed on administrative leave on friday in order to come back to the u.s. so again, that deadline tomorrow for federal workers to accept the buyout offer if they got one. chris. >> gabe gutierrez thank you. okay. michael, there's an attorney at a financial regulatory agency who told the washington post this who makes a life changing decision in ten days with no certainty other than elon musk's word? i mean, you just have to imagine what intensity there is for these folks. and it's not an exaggeration. this is a life altering decision. and some people are saying, i want to make sure i get some money, i don't want to just get fired. but it's not clear where the money is coming from. >> well. >> if you get fired, you have you have civil recourse. because if you're a civil servant in th. civil service community of. the

federal government, meaning you're not a political. >> appointee. >> but you are. >> a full fledged civil servant, you have protections through the federal union, etc. >> so those. >> you're not left out there. what what. >> you would you wouldn't blame people if they were worried about whether or not. >> no. >> that's where i was going. >> no. absolutely. that's where. >> that's where i was going next. the point is to make you worried. yeah. the point is to scare you into committing to an to an action that is, on. >> its. >> face, illegal. >> and there have been. you know, it's not me saying that. there have been. >> you know, lawyers. >> who who do these cases. >> handle, these federal civil cases, civil employment. >> cases. >> who have been very clear about what this means and how this plays out. but that's the point. we confuse. >> you and scare. >> you into taking an action against your self interest. and thinking also. >> that you're somehow going to receive a benefit. it is not. >> clear. nowhere near clear,

how any of this gets paid for. these are dollars that are not, in part, that have been appropriated by the federal, by the congress to pay specifically for these things. and so there's no guarantee that if you get if you take this buyout, that you will actually get paid nine months worth of, of salary and benefit. that's a lot of money. >> so i don't know if you saw the video we had, michael, that the protest there was the young man holding a sign saying, you know, my mom and dad both lost their jobs. so there's that immediate impact for folks. and then we all know that that when something like this happens and this is tens of thousands of people potentially losing their jobs, many of them centered in greater d.c, maryland, virginia. right. how vast would the disruption be, obviously, to their lives, their family's lives? but the entire economy of the area, housing, small businesses? i mean, they're the

tentacles are broad. >> it is. a massive impact for states like maryland, virginia, d.c. regional, you know, federal offices that employ a significant number of federal employees in states around the. country absolutely will have a. financial impact, because. unless you're getting a check from the federal government on friday, if you accept the buyout by the. >> deadline on thursday. >> that will. allow you to then go ahead and. >> at least for the. >> next nine. >> months, have the. >> security of having that money in advance. you're you're going to be wishing and hoping. >> and praying. >> at some point in this process, you're. >> going to get paid. >> how do. >> you. cover your mortgage? >> how do you cover your kitchen table expenses? >> how do. >> you cover your household expenses? how do you pay for your kids education? all of

those pieces. still matter are going to be important concerns. donald trump isn't addressing that. donald trump is not is not offering. >> you the. >> solace of knowing that you're going to get a guaranteed payment. >> he's just telling you to resign. >> because he doesn't want the. >> stain of. >> having to fire. >> you on. his watch, and the ramifications. >> from that. >> on on his desk. >> so that's the reality of this. you're just a pawn in a grotesque political move by a. man who told us he. was going to be a dictator on day one. >> we're now. >> into day. what? so. >> and you. >> just during week three? >> yeah. >> we're just starting week three. you got. >> this rogue. >> individual in elon musk who's unelected. >> who's acting like he's supreme. >> leader, acting. out on donald. trump's wishes. and for. >> elon musk, he needs to know

that he's potentially. >> getting punked here, too. because when this goes. >> south. >> donald trump won't know who the hell elon musk is. remember vivek ramaswamy? >> have you heard. >> his name at all? so look, the reality, the reality of this is real. for everyday americans who bought into. this idea that this, you know, streamlining and downsizing of the government. >> is going to be. >> a good thing. chris. >> here's the reality protest. >> well, i don't want to stop you from talking about the rally, but the protests are out there, right in washington, the upper senate park today, yesterday, outside the treasury department. take a look. we have some of the cities where people are demonstrating today against president trump's policies and executive orders for what's called 50 states, 50 protests one day. and you got to wonder if it has the potential to grow into a bigger movement as some of these impacts that you're talking about start to be felt. i mean, donald trump doesn't

have to run for reelection, but republicans in congress do. >> they do. >> but here's. >> the rub. federal employees. protesting is one. >> thing. >> protesting the loss of their jobs. >> shutting down of usaid. >> all of those things are important and they're relevant. but it becomes much more important. >> to a. >> member of congress when their constituents. >> are. >> standing in this crowd. meaning mom and pop who aren't federal employees. they're protesting because guess what? they can't get the services that they once got because that employee has been fired. they can't get the. resources they once received because that that department or that program has. been eliminated. there's been no explanation to real. americans out there who rely on the work that these federal employees do, right? there's been no conversation about how they're going to be impacted when these programs we talk about. >> foreign aid. >> in a foreign land. what about

the snap and food and. education and health and other programs? you're about. >> to see a man who doesn't believe in vaccines. >> what happens when the department of health starts doing what they plan to do, right? >> i'm going to interrupt you for just a second, michael, because we have some breaking news. it comes to us via our dan delooze. dan is with us now. the cia. dan has sent a list of recently hired employees in an unclassified email to the white house. >> yes, that. >> is exactly what's happened. >> it's extraordinary. >> as that. >> may sound. the cia, like all federal. >> agencies, was. >> under pressure to. meet a deadline. >> set by this. >> executive order that the president issued about shrinking the federal workforce. >> and they had. >> to send a list of recently hired employees. and they and they had no way to send it in a classified manner to the office of personnel management. at least that's what we're told.

that's the justification. so they sent an email, unclassified email with a list of these newly hired employees, and they listed their first names and. an initial of their last names. and talking to former intelligence officials and security experts, this is a highly. risky move. as you. >> can. >> imagine. this is really an invitation, possibly to adversaries to try to get a hold of that list, check it back with other information, and then there would be identifying employees. >> of the central. >> intelligence agency. so this. >> is potentially a counterintelligence. disaster according to a lot of experts and former officials. >> and this. >> is all part of. this kind of chaos we've been seeing in this hectic few days past two weeks with these executive orders and a tremendous pressure now on all the federal agencies to comply

with these orders. and the cia seems to have gotten caught on an axle here. we'll see if there's more explanation, but that's what we're hearing. >> michael, let me make a couple of points about this. number one. yes, first names and last initial. but i want to quote a former senior intelligence official who said any foreign intelligence service worth its weight could apply research and analytic tools to marry up these names and initials with other public records to identify and target many of them. and worth noting that in recent years, the cia has been pushing to recruit employees who have chinese language skills. what do you make of these names going out in an unclassified email. >> considered already in the hands of our enemies? you have to look at it from that perspective, given the reporting as we just heard it. this is this is chaos. this is unmanaged, right? it's deliberate. they think that this

is cute, that we. >> are, you. >> know, out, you know, uprooting the deep state. donald trump and his ilk are the deep state. that has been the sorry sucker play this entire time. you know it's the whole bait and switch. they are the very thing they're trying to scare us of and make us afraid of. and they're executing in that manner. so consider this. this is just the tip, chris, that we guess what you're going to be reporting tomorrow, next week, it's going to be more fantastical than what you just reported. it's going to be most it's going to be the most outrageously brain dumb crap you've ever seen. but it's right within their wheelhouse. you've got 19 year olds, 20 year olds who have in control of treasury under elon musk. how backwards stupid is that? and yet donald. >> trump and. >> everybody is walking around washington, mike johnson.

>> included, acting. >> like, well, this is very good for how we're going to clean up the government. yeah. and our adversaries are like more please, more, please. thank you very much. because now they're going to be a part of. >> the sinews. >> and infrastructure of our of our federal system. as much as the cia is an unclassified, unsecured email with sensitive personnel information. you've got to be kidding me. and nobody, nobody on capitol hill. there's no republican leadership who think that's the problem. this is the this is the country's got to get a grip here, i get it. the price of eggs. understood i get it. what it cost to put gas in the tank. but the price we're. paying now and about to pay after this is going to be far greater than what a dozen eggs cost your. trust me on that. >> michael steele bluntly put.

dan deluce, great reporting. thank you both. be sure to check out michael's show the weekend, which has no shortage of topics ever to talk about. that's every saturday and sunday at 8 a.m. right here on msnbc. sometimes i'm watching on my couch. morning coffee. michael says. something makes me spill my coffee. might send him the cleaning bill. all right, coming up. ice is raiding communities in colorado today, even as detention centers are pushed past their limits. so what's the past their limits. so what's the plan? that's next on when emergency strikes, first responders are the first ones in... but on outdated networks, the crucial technology they depend on, is limited. that's why t-mobile created t-priority... ...the only solution built for the 5g era, that can dynamically dedicate up to 10 times the capacity for first responders. t-priority. built for tomorrow's emergencies.

ready today. (♪♪) and tap. >> the switch online. that's it. >> no phone. >> calls and. >> no wasted time. >> no wasted time. >> go -what've you got there, larry? -time machine. you gonna go back and see how the pyramids were built or something? nope. ellen and i want to go on vacation, so i'm going to go back to last week and buy a winning lottery ticket. -can i come? -only room for one. how am i getting home? sittin' on my lap like last time, ronald. fine, but i'm bringing this. [ whirring ] alright. or...you could try one of these savings options. the right money moves aren't as far-fetched as you think. there it is. see? told you it was going to all work out. thanks, future me. my life is full of questions... how do i clean an aioli stain? use tide. do i need to pretreat guacamole? not with tide. why do we even buy napkins? thankfully, tide's the answer to almost all of them. —do crabs have eyebrows? —except that one.

for all of life's laundry questions... it's got to be tide. inspector a powerhouse law firm. so if wrongful conduct caused a catastrophic injury or death, call klein. inspector. did you know. >> you could. >> save with goodrx? even if you have. >> insurance, i'm on medicare. >> i checked goodrx. >> because it can beat my co-pay. >> who wouldn't like that? >> even if you have insurance. goodrx can help you save. another good reason to check another good reason to check goodrx. ♪ music ♪ ♪ unnecessary action hero! ♪ ♪ unnecessary. ♪ was that necessary? no. neither is missing your daughter's competition to do payroll. with paycom, employees do their own payroll so you don't have to miss your daughter's big day. time to shine.

get paycom and make the unnecessary unnecessary.

dave's been very excited about saving big with the comcast business 5-year price lock guarantee. five years? -five years. and he's not alone. -high five. it's five years of reliable gig speed internet. five years of advanced securit. five years of a great rate that won't change. it's back. but only for a limited time. high five. five years? -nope. comcast business 5-year price lock guarantee. powering five years of savings. powering possibilities. comcast business. >> football season. one yard equals one. >> win prize picks. run your game. >> donald trump is defending the mass firings of federal watchdogs. >> our federal government now can discriminate against the citizens of the country. >> we are. >> all. >> watching and waiting to see who is going to hold the line. >> don't miss the weekends, saturday, and sunday mornings at. >> 8:00. >> on msnbc.

>> the trump administration's ongoing immigration roundup is hitting colorado today. the dea posted this video that it says shows federal agents serving a search warrant in the denver metro area. it's part of what an ice official confirms is an enhanced enforcement operation. nbc's david noriega and julia ainsley are following this for us. what more do we know about today's roundup? david? >> well, chris. >> this appears to. >> be another. >> one. >> of these fairly large scale. immigration sweeps that have been taking place in various cities across the u.s. over the last week or so. what's new about this. >> chris. >> is that these are. >> not just ice. >> agents conducting. >> these operations. they're going out into the field with agents. >> from fbi. >> dea, atf. >> the trump administration. >> is basically. >> marshaling much. >> of the. >> federal law.

>> enforcement apparatus. >> to supplement ice. >> in these field operations. >> this this makes sense. >> given the fact that ice itself has fairly limited bandwidth. >> now, i've. >> been talking to a number. >> of people. >> on. >> the ground in aurora. >> including an immigrant. >> who lives in. >> one of the. >> apartment complexes that was raided. he says he was walking. >> down the. >> stairs this morning. >> with his. >> you know. >> 11 year old. >> daughter taking. >> her. >> to. >> school when he saw the. >> building. was surrounded by. >> federal agents. >> so he just went. >> back. >> into his apartment. >> agents were. >> walking down the. >> halls. >> knocking on people's. >> doors. >> identifying themselves. as immigration. >> and asking people to come outside. he himself. >> and his family. >> and. everyone else he knows in that building. did not open their doors. >> they just stayed. >> quietly in their apartments. i've heard from people on the ground at this particular apartment complex that the number of agents. >> there was very large. >> it was in the dozens, the number of people who were actually apprehended, who people at least saw being apprehended and taken away from the scene. was smaller. >> it was about ten people. >> now. >> chris. >> the federal agencies. involved are characterizing this as a large scale operation specifically. targeting alleged members of the venezuelan train de aragua gang. it is the alleged presence of that gang in

aurora that has brought the administration's attention to that city in the denver metro area in the first place. the big question that. we need to be asking moving forward is of the people. >> arrested today. >> how many of them do, in fact, have provable ties to the aragua gang. or otherwise, some kind of criminal record? >> chris. >> those are the key questions. and, julie, i think, you know, obviously the trump administration wants to post these videos. they want to be able to send the message. we're doing what president trump said he would. he's making the border safer. but the questions are, as david just enumerated. and also, these latest roundups come as dea officials say that as of yesterday morning, ice detention facilities that are 109% of capacity. so where is the administration even going to put people as they keep making these arrests? well, one place obviously they're looking at. >> is guantanamo bay. chris, we just saw ten people yesterday who. >> again, allegedly. >> had these ties to aragua, although. >> it's not. >> clear in what capacity, and

if they've actually. >> been. convicted for those crimes. >> that they. >> were the first to. >> go down. >> to guantanamo bay. >> we should. >> point out guantanamo bay. >> has had an immigration. >> detention center there in the past for migrants. >> who were interdicted. >> at sea. >> but this is entirely different, and they. are actually. >> being held in. the same. security facility that terrorists, alleged. >> terrorists would be kept in guantanamo bay. >> but exactly. >> what david points out is. >> the problem here. it's the capacity and the funding. and we've reported. >> here on monday, they were actually. >> releasing some of the migrants that they've been arresting in these sweeps. that aurora raid is one that we understand was actually on schedule to start last thursday. they postponed it because of media leaks they thought posed operational security. but it's all part of a big push to. >> arrest a lot of the. people who were. >> already identified. >> by the previous administration. >> now, the question. >> is when. >> they bring in. >> the force of these. >> other agencies. >> including their own. homeland security investigations. >> who's left to. >> go out and do. the work to find those people. >> to do the investigations. to get their convictions. >> in a court and actually tie

them to these crimes so that they can go arrest them. >> and then. >> where will they put them? because if. >> they're not sending them all to guantanamo bay, and they certainly don't. >> have the space there as of yet, they're going to have. >> to. >> find some space in the. >> united states. >> or we will continue seeing releases. last thing i'll point out, chris. >> is that ice. >> for the. >> first ten days. >> of the administration, posted their arrest records every day, boasting big numbers, sometimes over a thousand. just this week they've. >> stopped. >> doing that. and so the question is, have they been able to sustain the same pace? >> well, one of the things that was said at the at the white house press briefing, we have not been able to fact check it, but they said that only 461 of those arrested since the beginning of the trump administration have been released out of 8000. so we will see if they continue to put out numbers and back it up for us. david noriega, julia ainsley, thank you. and coming up, we'll speak to the attorney representing fbi agents who are asking for a restraining order against their employer, the department of justice. you're department of justice. you're watching chris jansing

some people just know they could save hundreds on car insurance by checking allstate first. okay, let's get going. can everybody see that? like you know to check your desktop first, before sharing your screen. ahh..that is not. uhh, oh no. no no no. i don't know how that got in there. no. that, uhh. yeah, checking first is smart. okay, uhh. everybody get out. so check allstate first for a quote that could save you hundreds. you're in good hands with allstate. prilosec knows, for a fire... one fire extinguisher beats 10 buckets of water, and for zero heartburn 1 prilosec a day... beats taking up to 10 antacids a day. it's that simple, for 24 hour heartburn relief... one beats ten. prilosec otc. upset stomach iberogast indigestion iberogast bloating iberogast thanks to a unique combination of herbs, iberogast helps relieve six digestive symptoms to help you feel better. six digestive symptoms. the power of nature.

iberogast. tap into etsy the power of nature. for home and style finds like custom shelving for less than 50 dollars to make more space. or linen robes under 75 to get you cozy. for affordable pieces to help you welcome big changes, etsy has it. we pulled people off the street and asked them about their hearts. how's your heart? my heart's pretty good. you sure? how do you know? you're driving a car, you have the check engine light. but the heart doesn't have a hey, check heart sign. with kardiamobile, you can take a medical-grade ekg in just 30 seconds from anywhere. kardiamobile is proven to detect atrial fibrillation, one of the leading causes of stroke. kardiamobile is available for just $74 for a limited time only. don't wait! get one for yourself or a loved one at kardia.com or amazon today. saver. shop now. it's no shave saver. shop now. it's no shave the.com.

i don't ever see anyone coming out to maintenance anything, so it's very scary for me because i have everything i love in this home. so, we've now implemented drone technology. how is that safe for me? it enhances the inspection,

so it allows us to see things faster. your safety is the most important, and if you're feeling unsafe, that's not okay. it doesn't feel like that in our hearts. i mean, it's worrisome. [dog barks] homeserve start at just 4.99 a month. call 1-888-246-2612 or visit homeserve. com. >> longtime trump ally pam bondi was sworn in this morning as attorney general. the senate voted 54 to 46 last night to confirm her. she is now one of 12 trump cabinet picks to be confirmed, and will be at the helm of the department of justice. in her job description, overseeing the fbi where right now, employees say they fear for

their safety and are calling on a judge to block the trump administration from releasing the names of those who worked on cases related to the january 6th attack on the capitol. several fbi agents and employees are now suing the doj, highlighting concerns over retribution and, quote, potential vigilante action by those who they were investigating. the agency has already turned over to the doj, a list of thousands of agents and other personnel involved in capitol riot related cases. that's according to a person familiar with the matter. i want to bring in chris mattei, who is representing the seven fbi agents in the case. he's a partner at kossoff, kossoff and bitter and a former federal prosecutor. good to have you back on the show, chris. when do you expect to hear back from the court on this? and how long could the temporary restraining order last? >> well, the court scheduled a hearing, chris, for tomorrow at 1030. that will be our first opportunity to argue before a district judge that our temporary restraining order

should be entered. and that request is to prohibit the department of justice from publicly disseminating the names of agents who participated in the january 6th investigations. we're hopeful that that will be resolved tomorrow, that we will have an order, and then we can continue to pursue our case if necessary. this is the last place that we want it to be. it's kind of preposterous that federal agents should have to sue the government that they serve in order to protect themselves, but the actions of the acting leadership at the justice department in the days leading up to monday, and then obviously, the effort to identify every single agent who participated in that investigation really left us no choice but to take measures to protect our agents. >> well, we're already seeing, as i understand it, some of the pardoned january 6th defendants or convicted january 6th offenders going online, including a post you referenced from proud boys founder enrique tarrio. have any of your clients

experienced problems harassment as a result of this yet? >> well, we represent the fbi agents association, so that's some 14,000 members and current and former members of the fbi. and it is, in a sense, part of the job, when you're in law enforcement, to have to deal with dangerous people. but we shouldn't have to deal with being hung out to dry by our own government. and so what we are really hoping is that the new leadership at the justice department assures us, and hopefully that will happen in court tomorrow. we would like nothing more than for the department of justice lawyers to come in tomorrow and say to the court that the department of justice is not going to be publicly identifying any agents, that there won't be any disciplinary proceedings other than the normal disciplinary proceedings, and we can move past this, but we are not going to allow agents of the fbi to be targeted and be the subjects of political retribution simply for having done their jobs.

>> i'm sure you know that the acting deputy attorney general, emil bove, sent a memo to agents today, and it says that no fbi employee who follows orders and carried out their duties, quote, in an ethical manner with respect to those investigations, is at risk of termination or other penalties. what's your message to the agents you represent in response to what emil bove wrote? >> well, we're looking forward to hearing what the department of justice has to say in court tomorrow before a federal judge. i mean, i think that the email you reference may be a step forward. it certainly struck me as a response to our lawsuit. and if they come in tomorrow and say, of course, the department of justice doesn't intend to identify any agents publicly, of course we're going to follow lawful channels for reviewing any agents conduct that will make us very happy. but that representation is going to have to be made to a judge. and we expect that the judge would enter an order accordingly. that's what we're hoping for.

>> we just. excuse me. we just heard from democrat jamie raskin. he, of course, was a member of the j6 select committee, and he expressed his concerns about the trump administration's purge of doj officials and fbi agents. let's listen. >> so what's the message? don't participate in the prosecution of any crimes that you might think donald. >> trump approves of. >> don't get. caught enforcing the law. in a way donald. trump might not approve of. >> you've said that an unlawful purge of fbi agents would be catastrophic to national security. and i wonder what you're hearing from the people inside the fbi. the level of concern and the conversations you're having. >> well, certainly. i mean, there's a high level of concern. i mean, filing for a temporary restraining order was really a last resort. i do think that the actions taken by the acting leadership of the justice department over the last few

days was designed to have a chilling effect on law enforcement. it was designed to be intimidating. but what we hope now is that we can move past that and that, you know, the federal agents across the federal government who do their job every day, who have no political leanings one way or the other in how they perform their job and who do that job honorably can get back to work without fear of being targeted for political retribution. we think that that's not very much to ask, and we hope that the justice department will assure us of that. in the morning. >> we'll be watching very closely to see what comes out of that court appearance at 1030 tomorrow. chris mattei, thank you so much for being on the show. and coming up, the big question hanging over the alex jones bankruptcy hearing today. when will sandy hook families get paid? you're watching chris get paid? you're watching chris jansing reports only on msnbc. covid-19? i'm not waiting. if it's covid, paxlovid. paxlovid is an oral treatment for adults...

with mild-to- moderate covid-19 and a high-risk factor for it becoming severe. it does not prevent covid-19. my symptoms are mild now, but i'm not risking it. if it's covid, paxlovid. paxlovid must be taken within the first 5 days of symptoms... and helps stop the virus from multiplying in your body. taking paxlovid with certain medicines can lead... to serious or life- threatening side effects or affect how it... or other medicines work, including hormonal birth control. tell your doctor about all medicines, vitamins, and herbal supplements you take as certain tests or dosage changes of your other medicines may be needed. tell them if you have kidney or liver problems, hiv-1, are or plan to be pregnant or breastfeed. don't take paxlovid if allergic to its ingredients. stop taking and call your doctor right away if you have allergic reaction symptoms. serious side effects can include allergic reactions, some severe like anaphylaxis, and liver problems. these are not all the possible side effects, so talk to your doctor. if it's covid,... paxlovid. ask your doctor today.

>> someone stole. >> my social. >> security number and filed a tax return. >> in my name. and i'm a cpa. >> your tax forms have all. >> the personal information. >> needed to commit identity. >> theft. and you're not the only. one with a copy which makes. >> you vulnerable. >> only lifelock alerts you to the widest volume of threats. others could miss. and if your identity is stolen, a us based restoration specialist will work to fix it. guaranteed. enroll now. >> a lot of people. >> need to replace their. >> windows or patio doors. >> but. >> they put it off. >> because they think it will be too expensive. hi, i'm ann romer. >> i'm here. >> with michael smith from renewal by andersen. >> you really work. with the customers. >> to find. >> affordable solutions. >> we do. and we're. >> the replacement window division of andersen, one of the largest window manufacturers in north america. so we can usually offer our customers larger discounts and better financing than smaller companies or contractors. >> other window companies don't offer your same. >> window and door. >> installation method.

>> our installers have installed thousands of windows. windows are manufactured to precisely fit your specific window openings. being custom built also. means if you have any beautiful. >> trim that you'd like. >> to keep. >> we can often. >> install your windows. >> without impacting. >> that trim. >> you won't get this with most vinyl. >> windows. >> and you offer a free window and patio. door diagnosis. >> we do. >> we'll come to your home and assess your current windows. >> show you where you. >> might be losing energy, and take measurements. >> then we'll give you an exact price quote. >> so you're not a high pressure company. >> my background. >> is in home remodeling. >> as a carpenter. >> i've seen every window problem. out there, so now i just want to help homeowners make their homes more beautiful and comfortable. with the right window. >> and your. >> patio doors are really gorgeous. >> they are. >> and they're engineered to easily open and close for years. and with multiple locking points on our patio doors. they provide even greater security. >> that is so. great to. >> hear, michael. >> thank you. >> buy one window, patio door or entry door and get the next 140% off. get an extra $200 off your

entire purchase with no money down. no monthly payments, and no interest for 12 months. >> and renewal. by andersen. >> is proud to offer an additional $300 discount to our military, first responders. >> and teachers. >> call before. >> february 28th. >> one 800 460 7700. >> that's one 800. >> 460 7700. >> well, you're in the. >> big leagues now. >> how was your vacation, sir? >> well, i. >> needed one with your 10% loyalty program discount. that's $225 for the night. >> not bad. >> $155 for the night. hold up. how? >> it's easy. when you know where to look. >> trivago compares. >> hotel prices from hundreds of sites so you can save up to 40%. sites so you can save up to 40%. >> trivago is my secret tactic. (auctioneer) let's start the bidding at 5 million dollars. thank you, sir. (man) these people of privilege... hoarding the financial advantages

for far too long. (auctioneer) 7.5 at the back. (man) look at them — unaware that robinhood gold members now enjoy the vip treatment — a 3% ira match on retirement contributions. (auctioneer) 11 million sir. (man) once they discover their privileges are no longer exclusive... their fragile reality will plunge into disarray. ♪ rejected a settlement among families of the sandy hook shooting victims. it would have awarded them $16 million, just a small portion of the hundreds of millions of dollars jones owes them in defamation related judgments. nbc's kathy park is following the story. here with me in studio. danny cevallos, criminal defense attorney and msnbc legal analyst. so, kathy, the judge said he wants to settle this issue before turning

to the auction of jones media empire, which of course includes infowars, where many of the lies were spread. why was this settlement rejected, and where does it go from here? >> yeah. so, chris, this was. >> an interesting day in federal court today. no cameras allowed, but media was able to dial in and listen in on this hearing. and right. >> out of the. >> gate, there was a surprise turn because the judge. >> was essentially. >> prepared to rule even before the hearing got underway. >> so it. >> lasted just under 30 minutes. >> and ultimately, the u.s. bankruptcy court. judge rejected the. >> settlement to divvy up millions. >> of dollars in claims. >> against fss or free speech systems. >> the parent company to jones's infowars. >> the judge. >> argued free. >> speech systems bankruptcy. >> case was. >> dismissed last year, so disputes. >> with the. >> company couldn't be handled in his court today. so we heard. >> him saying. >> things like, this case keeps taking twists and turns. >> and trying to. >> come. >> up with really masterful creative lawyering. but at its core, it's something i can't approve. >> so with that, the.

>> judge, judge. >> lopez, he told. >> the. >> parties they could take their. >> case to. connecticut and. >> texas and deal with this at the. >> state level, or come back. >> with another settlement proposal. >> but, chris, keep. >> in mind. >> going into. >> this, we. >> anticipated the. hearing to last pretty much into the. >> afternoon. >> but we didn't even get a chance to hear from the lawyers today. >> so still left. >> with a lot of questions. a lot of questions. more so than answers. >> okay. well, danny, i'm going to ask questions anyway and see what answers i can get from you. look, this bankruptcy has has dragged on for what, like three years now. and i and i wonder whether these families are ever going to see this money. >> there are no. >> guarantees in. >> bankruptcy land. i mean, the definition. >> of bankruptcy is essentially, i don't have enough assets. >> to pay the people to whom i owe money. and that's really why. >> this is in this. >> process to. >> begin with. >> these families are. >> actually likely to get. something which. >> is better than a lot of creditors who are lined up in the bankruptcy process. they may. >> get. >> something they're not going to.

>> get dollar. >> for dollar. >> but depending on the outcome. >> of these sales, they will be able to recapture or at least. >> get some. >> of their judgments back. >> but it. >> is a. >> long slog. it is a process. no matter what, whether it's alex jones. >> or anyone. >> in bankruptcy court. >> so we all know anybody who follows this does that. the judge blocked the sale of infowars to the onion, which is that satirical news site saying the bidding process was flawed and didn't raise enough money for jones creditors. now, jones allies have offered a much higher bid. what happens with that? >> right. >> so let's take a step back. what makes this a. >> little unusual is that. >> ordinarily, and i'm. >> really simplifying the process. >> when. >> bankruptcy is. >> declared, you assess all the assets. >> you put them all in. >> a pot, and then you line up the creditors and start paying them off. what has always made this. >> a little unusual is. >> that some of the people to whom the money is. >> owed have. >> sought to be. involved in. the actual ownership. >> of the assets being, or at least receiving profits or benefits from the assets. >> that are. >> being sold. that makes it a. >> little.

>> more complicated. >> so that's probably. >> added to the length of this case. >> because the judge. >> has had to. >> decide and. >> actually go back. >> on some of these. >> decisions as. >> to whether or not this is an outcome. that works under bankruptcy. >> law, just because. >> the people. >> who are owed. >> money agree. >> on a settlement or an. >> outcome, doesn't mean that it meets the. >> bankruptcy code. and that's the judge's. >> job to oversee that. >> so is there a general timeline that they can look to? some answer one way or another, they thought they had an answer when it looked like this sale was going to be made to the onion, right. >> and even you look back. >> at that, i mean, there are no. >> guarantees as to. when a sale will be completed, whether the bidding war may be different or longer, or there may be new participants. so the answer in terms of a timeline is it's really difficult to see. federal bankruptcy courts can move more quickly in certain circumstances. but this is a case that's unusually complex. so it might add a little more on to the timeline. obviously, it's something that anyone a creditor

in bankruptcy court is concerned about, which is when do i get my money? probably the bigger. question in bankruptcy court is often, will i even get. any money? >> kathy park, danny cevallos, thank you both. and that's going to do it for us this hour. make sure to join us for chris jansing reports every weekday from 1 to 3 p.m. eastern right here on msnbc. our coverage here on msnbc. our coverage continues with when my doctor gave me breztri for my copd, things changed for me. breztri gave me better breathing, symptom improvement, and reduced flare-ups. breztri won't replace a rescue inhaler for sudden breathing problems. it is not for asthma. tell your doctor if you have a heart condition or high blood pressure before taking it. don't take breztri more than prescribed. breztri may increase your risk of thrush, pneumonia, and osteoporosis. call your doctor if worsened breathing, chest pain, mouth or tongue swelling, problems urinating, vision changes, or eye pain occur. ask your doctor about breztri. you know what's brilliant? vision changes, or eye pain occur. boring. think about it. boring makes vacations happen, early retirements possible, and startups start up.

that's why pnc bank strives to be boring with your money. the pragmatic, calculated kind of boring. upset stomach iberogast indigestion iberogast bloating iberogast thanks to a unique combination of herbs, iberogast helps relieve six digestive symptoms to help you feel better. six digestive symptoms. the power of nature. iberogast. when emergency strikes, first responders rely on the latest technology. that's why t-mobile created t-priority built for the 5g era. only t-priority dynamically dedicates more capacity for first responders. it ain't my dad's razor, dad. ay watch it! it's from gillettelabs. this green bar releases trapped hairs from my face... gamechanga! ...while the flexdisc contours to it. so the five blades can get virtually every hair in one stroke. for the ultimate gillette shaving experience. the best a man can get is gillettelabs. expenses, the onboarding, the benefits, the time off requests, fixing payroll. it has to stop. a cry for help. [explosion]

♪unnecessary action hero♪ ♪unnecessary♪ was that necessary? no, neither is stressing over things that should be automated. paycom automates everything. that's less stress for you and your people. okay. set your hr and payroll to automatic and make the unnecessary, unnecessary. nobody understands me. what do you mean? [clears throat] sounds like you need to vaporize that sore throat. vapocool drops? it's sore throat relief with a rush of vicks vapors. ♪ vapocooooool ♪ whoa. vaporize sore throat pain with vicks vapocool drops. have you checked singlecare? whenever my customers ask how to get a better price on their meds, i tell them about singlecare. it's a free app accepted at pharmacies nationwide. >> before i pick. >> up my prescription, i always check the singlecare price. >> it's quick, easy, and totally free to use. >> single care can. literally

beat my insurance copay. >> you just search for your prescription and show your single care coupon at the pharmacy. pharmacy. >> so i just show. new projects means new project managers. you need to hire. i need indeed. indeed you do. when you sponsor a job on indeed, it's easier for talented candidates to find it. which makes it easier for you to hire them. visit indeed.com/hire

month. call 1-833-735-4495 or visit homeserve. com. >> good to be with you. i'm katie tur. it is a good moment, i think, to take a step back and ask yourself what exactly is going on here? it's been now two and a half weeks since donald trump was sworn in, and in that time there have been dozens of executive orders, including one attempting to unilaterally overturn a constitutional amendment, a move to shut down a congressionally created government agency, a takeover, or at least the