>> be weeks. >> if. >> not. up to a month before these numbers start. >> to fall. >> so a bit of a long road ahead. one final. >> note experts. >> even told us months ago. >> that they were worried. >> this could happen. >> because pediatric. flu vaccination. rates and flu vaccination rates. >> broadly are at their lowest numbers in several years. >> the latest cdc data showing right now. pediatric across the country 44.5%. >> vaccination rate. >> that's nearly a. 14 point. >> drop from five. >> years ago. >> ana. >> okay, we've been warned. it's not too late to get your flu shot. maggie. vespa. thank you. that does it for us today. see you back here tomorrow. same time, same place as always. i appreciate your company. i'm ana cabrera, reporting from new york. jose diaz-balart picks up our coverage right now. >> good morning. >> 11 a.m. >> eastern. 8 a.m. pacific. i'm jose diaz-balart. we begin with president trump's reshaping of the federal government. >> every moment.

>> now, the president will huddle. >> with house speaker. mike johnson and other. >> top republican lawmakers at the white house to talk about the budget resolution and the. party's agenda moving forward. it comes. after president trump delivered remarks at. >> the national prayer breakfast this morning, where he announced new steps. he says will. >> protect religious liberty. i'm announcing that i will be creating a brand new presidential commission on religious liberty. it's going to be a very big deal, which will work tirelessly to uphold this most fundamental right. >> joining us this. >> morning, nbc's. >> gabe gutierrez at the white house and vaughn hillyard. so, gabe, what other steps did the president announce this morning related to this issue? >> i thought it. >> was a good morning. well, the president saying that he wants. >> the federal government to. >> bring god back. into our lives, he said. and he. >> said his. >> position on. >> religion, it really. >> changed after. >> the two assassination. >> attempts last year. >> however, he. >> also made a false claim, suggesting.

>> that. >> president biden. >> had not attended the. >> national prayer. breakfast over the last few. >> years he had. but he also. >> made a. point to single out his new. >> attorney. >> general. >> pam bondi. >> for what he expects her. >> to. do in this administration. let's listen. >> today, i'm signing an executive order to make our attorney general, who's a great person. she's going to be a great attorney general, pam bondi. the head of a task force brand new to eradicate anti-christian bias. the mission of this task force will be to immediately halt all forms of anti-christian targeting and discrimination within the federal government, including at the doj, which was absolutely terrible. the irs, the fbi, terrible, and other agencies. >> now, this is all part of the trump administration really elevating christian conservatives here. josie, as you know, the president, when he took office, pardoned several

anti-abortion protesters. and just yesterday he signed that executive order banning transgender athletes and women's sports. they say. >> and, vaughn, you've. >> been on capitol hill. >> this week. >> how close are the white. >> house and. >> the republican. >> party to finalizing. >> their. >> common agenda? >> right. >> it seems a little far off here at this point, and that's largely because of the distinction between the house and the senate on who will first move forward with their own budget. and for senator durbin, the democrat here is behind us here. and in large part, it's democrats that are waiting on how republicans are going to proceed themselves. senator graham, suggesting that beginning as early as next week, they would begin through their own budget markup process. but house speaker mike johnson, who should be arriving any moment at the white house with other house republican leaders to talk with president trump about their own budget, said that they still intend to move forward with their own budget proposal. so much of this is going to be coming to a head in just a month here. march 14th is when

government funding rounds, runs out, and ultimately a government shutdown looms here. but by and large, there's a lot of consternation and questions not only among democrats like senator durbin about the role that elon musk and doge are playing through the white house and actively cutting off already congressionally, congressionally appropriated funds from prior years. but moving forward, how ultimately will a budget coming out of this congress be impacted by an executive branch that seems willing to not necessarily comply with the dispersed funds that this congress has ordered? >> gabe. meanwhile, nbc news has learned that at least 40,000 federal employees. >> have accepted a buyout offer. >> about 2 million employees. >> were offered. that that buyout. >> is there any concern about what this could mean going forward? >> well, certainly, jose. among the trump administration's critics, there is a lot of concern about what this means for the future of the federal

government. this sudden reshaping in just an unprecedented time frame. but as you said, more than 40,000 have already signed up to take the buyout. but that. >> is far. >> short of what the white house and. >> the doge. >> had said that it wanted and. >> wanted 5. >> to. >> 10%. >> of the federal workforce to take this buyout. now the deadline is later on this evening. so administration officials do believe that there will be a significant amount here in these last 24 hours that ended up taking the buyout, but unions have already suing to block this deadline, and we should hear more later on this afternoon from a federal judge whether it will be blocked in a boston courtroom. >> and vaughn, meanwhile, nbc news. >> has learned the cia. >> sent the white house. >> a list. >> in an unclassified email with names of newly hired employees. what are the concerns here? >> that's right. >> the cia sent this list of individuals who had in recent years been hired by the cia,

essentially new employees. this was in response to an executive order signed by president trump ordering every federal agency to comply by sending a list of new hires who could potentially, during this probationary period of their hiring, be potentially let go by the federal government and the cia, sending the first names and the first initial of the last name of a new cia employee, sparking particularly democrats. mark warner, the vice chair of the senate intelligence committee, to question the move by the cia, sending this in an unclassified manner, suggesting that foreign adversaries china could put a target on these individuals backs, not being too difficult to take. the first name and last initial of individuals and ultimately determine who those individuals are. i think it's important to note that the cia exactly the employment, the number of people employed by the cia has always remained confidential and classified information because of the sensitivity of the individuals working for the agency, and this through the

demands of the white house, through this executive order, in the doj's efforts to try to eliminate parts of the federal workforce. all of this is leading to concern, particularly among democratic lawmakers who are the ones actively speaking out. jose. >> nbc's garrett. >> haake and vaughn hillyard. >> thank you. >> both so very much. and joining. us now. >> with. >> more. >> symone sanders townsend, former spokesperson. >> for former vice. >> president harris and. anchor of the weekend. >> right here on msnbc. >> fantastic show. also with us. >> former republican. >> governor john. >> kasich from ohio. >> he is. >> also an. msnbc political analyst. >> so. >> governor. >> first, with your reaction to what we heard from the president this morning as he's focusing in on the. >> issue of. >> religious liberty. >> well. >> you. >> know. >> listen, jose, i have. >> a book. >> coming out in april called heaven help us, which there's a promotion there, but it's designed to say that for people who are really upset, the. >> the faith institutions. >> of churches and synagogues and mosques can give people a

platform. >> and resources. >> to be able to solve everything from hunger to homelessness to the challenges. >> that we have across. >> the board. people who are in. foster care, helping, helping schools to do better. it's all laid out in this book, and. >> i think these. >> institutions should. >> not. >> be viewed negatively at large, and that we should view them as an. >> opportunity to change. >> our country from. >> the bottom up and. >> not the top down. but the idea that we're going to shove religion down somebody's throat is not something that i agree with. i don't think the president did that today, but i think a revival of spirituality in this country. jose, look, if we don't start respecting. >> people and seeing. >> people who are made in the. image of god. and treating them with. >> respect even. >> though we disagree with them. then we're in the race to the bottom. >> and i. >> really do believe that we. >> need. >> some sort of a spiritual. >> rebirth like they had after the golden. remember that that whole period of time in the.

late 1800s where we were in the gilded. >> age, and. >> it. >> took a spiritual. >> revival through the social. >> gospel movement to. >> begin to enact laws that affected. women and children. and created a morality in this country that was really important. that's how i see religion not shoving it down people's throats, but understanding a lot of the golden. >> rule and. >> the morality that's so important in this country. i believe. >> in that. >> but don't. >> shove it down anybody's throat. >> symone, you know, just the. >> the spiritual. >> ethos of. >> respecting others. and loving all, regardless. >> of who. >> they are, is. >> certainly something that, you know, has. been maybe. >> lacking in some ways. >> but but. >> symone, i mean. >> it's. >> like the. >> the national. >> discourse doesn't seem. >> to be getting. any nicer. >> not that it's. been nice, but it's just. >> i don't. >> see things.

>> becoming nicer. >> yeah. i mean, jose, the president isn't necessarily being nice to everyone in this country. there are people talking. we speak about other individuals oftentimes in this country as the other, stripping their humanity away. look, i agree with governor casey in the sense that, you know, i'm a praying person. i grew up baptist. i'm am now, you know, i love the lord. but there is something that is not that we aren't speaking to on this. you know, i went back and i checked and in december of 2023, the then former president trump gave a speech in iowa where he talked about christian nationalism. and he's made this statement. he said, upon taking office, i will create a new federal task force on fighting anti-christian bias to be led by a fully reformed department of justice. that's fair and equitable, and that will investigate all forms of illegal discrimination. that is from the playbook right out of

the christian nationalist movement. that is not the playbook from, you know, the good, the good old regular christian movement that, you know, we see our neighbor all the this is a very specific type of agenda that is being cloaked in quote unquote, christ. right. but if we just take a really strong look, this is infusing christian nationalism through the laws into our country. and this particular form that it is going to take is not one that will see women as equals, and that will speak for the least of these in this country. it is going to speak for a very particular view. >> you know, symone. can i. >> add. >> one thing? can i just i. >> want to praise. >> symone for a lot of what she said here. jose, i become convinced. and i don't know about you, symone. look, we've all invested so much. >> of our. >> lives in trying. >> to help america from the top down. >> but i think. >> america is strongest from the bottom up. when we are able to drive reforms in the true sense.

>> of christianity. >> judaism, and our friends in the muslim. community driving a sense of values, driving a sense of morality. so and. >> not. >> trying to impose things on us, but trying to create a spirit. where we're together as people. >> and i think. >> symone, if we can do that. >> and begin thinking. >> about bottom. >> up rather than top down, i believe we'll make more progress. but jose. >> thank you. >> for this segment. thank you. >> and i also want to talk about reform. >> because, symone, the president praised. >> elon musk again. >> this morning for his efforts. >> at doge. since the. >> president entered office. >> elon musk has been given. >> top security. >> clearance, was. >> named special government employee. you've been in the white house. >> in the past. >> what kind. of access. >> does that title provide? >> well, look, a special government employee. we used to joke when i worked in the white house that if, you know, if you ever come back to government, you want to come back as a special government employee, because as a special government employee, there are forms you don't necessarily have to fill out. as we used to say, you

don't have to show people your money, i.e. how much money you have and the source of that money. you don't have to disclose a number of potential conflicts of interest, but you do enjoy many of the same privileges as the people that have been gone through that level of vetting and disclosure in the executive office of the president. i'm sure elon musk has a blue badge, and that's a badge that allows you to go freely on on the white house campus between the west wing and the executive office of the president. and i'm sure a number of his staff have that. the to be very clear, many things that happen within the federal government are truly just protocol, and they're actually not codified in law. there are many other things that are codified in law. this this special government employee status. i mean, it's at the it's at the discretion of the president. and the president has been very clear that he does want elon musk in his role. i will just say this one thing, though, jose, i think it's a mistake for democrats to focus all of their ire and people who are critical of what's currently happening in the federal government. on elon musk. elon musk is a is at this point a

staffer, okay, he's very rich staffer, but he is a staffer. and by focusing the attention and the ire on elon musk, democrats specifically on the hill, are allowing the president to escape accountability so that when the heat gets too hot, well, we'll just move elon musk out the way and the president's hands are clean, when in reality, the buck stops with the president of the united states. >> and. john. >> any thoughts on that? >> well. >> look. >> i look we have. >> a $36. >> trillion debt. we have to deal with it. and there's tremendous inefficiencies. >> but i. >> kind of like the idea of working inside out rather than outside in if they want to reform things. and i'm for reforming things. i've done it all in my lifetime. >> you need. >> to work. >> with people who are in there, who are. >> really spirited. >> in the public servant role. >> to try to. >> figure out how to make everything better. creating chaos and. frightening people is not the way to get it done, but the system has to be shaken up. it is not. >> working. >> and i do. >> think there are better ways.

>> to do it. but fundamentally, we need to get. >> a. >> handle on this debt, because if. >> it doesn't and we. >> start. >> printing money. >> in this country, you talk about an economic collapse. >> that's what. >> you're looking at. and that's not just fear tactics. >> for me. >> it's people on wall street. it's academia. >> so many. >> people are. very worried about this. we've got to get a handle on it. >> i agree thousand. the debt. >> was the debt. the debt went higher the last time donald trump was president. so this is not. >> a. >> hyperbole, right? this is something that really happened. >> yeah. >> symone sanders. >> townsend and former governor john kasich. >> i have to. >> say to both of you, thank you. >> this conversation. >> should and probably could continue for a lot longer. >> i think that. the theological. >> aspect of our. >> conversation was really important. >> as well. from maimonides. >> the hans kung. >> to the. >> cloud of unknowing. >> issues we should. >> have brought in. >> but we. >> touched on. >> i'm very grateful to both. >> of you. >> for bringing. >> it up.

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peacemakers. and in that end, i hope my greatest legacy, when it's all finished, will be known as a peacemaker and a unifier. i hope that's going to be true. >> that was. >> president trump at the national. >> prayer breakfast. >> this. >> morning. >> after he doubled down on his proposal for the us to. take control of gaza and for palestinians to be resettled. the president writing on truth social. quote, the gaza strip would be turned over to the united states by israel at the conclusion of fighting, and that the palestinian people will be, quote, resettled in. >> far safer. >> and more. >> beautiful communities with. new and modern homes. >> in the region. >> moments ago. >> israeli prime minister benjamin. >> netanyahu met. >> with lawmakers. >> on capitol hill. >> and he. >> was asked. >> about president trump's proposal. here's what he had to say. >> mr. netanyahu, do you think. >> answers are. needed in order? >> are we to make.

>> no. >> joining us now from. >> tel aviv is nbc's yasmin vossoughian. also with us, peter baker. >> new york times chief white house correspondent and an nbc news political analyst. so, yasmin. >> president trump is making statements about gaza. >> as the cease fire. >> negotiations are. >> trying to move. >> to. the next. >> phase, a very delicate. >> phase. >> yeah. >> incredibly delicate. >> while the prime. >> minister is. >> gifting president. >> trump with a. >> gold pager as. >> a. >> reference to those. >> surprise attacks. >> on hezbollah. >> fighters. >> you have to understand the. >> landscape here. in israel right now. >> jose. >> to really. >> see how fragile. >> this moment is for. >> this cease fire deal and even. >> getting to phase two. >> if you. >> look. >> at what's. >> happening in the west. >> bank, many feeling. >> as if. >> the war has. >> actually shifted to the. >> west bank. >> the continued explosions in jenin just. >> last weekend. 100 plus. >> residential buildings were. >> in fact exploded. people losing their homes, their belongings. 30,000 plus

palestinians evacuated. from jenin camp. and then you talk about the. >> hostages, right? >> we're supposed to get three more names tomorrow. three more hostages. released on saturday, 79 hostages remaining in hamas captivity. hamas potentially. >> wondering how they'll have the upper. >> hand if they continue on with. >> this cease. >> fire deal. and then the family forum. >> the. >> family members of the. >> hostages. >> incredibly worried. >> that their family. >> members will fall. >> by the wayside because. of this rhetoric that is. >> coming out. >> of washington. >> and from prime minister bibi netanyahu and. calling for palestinians. >> to leave gaza. >> i actually sat down with aviva. >> siegel. >> the wife of. >> keith siegel. >> who was the first israeli american hostage to be released. >> on saturday. aviva spent 52 days in captivity. her husband, keith, 484 days. and i asked. >> her. >> specifically if. >> she was. >> worried about the fragility of this phase of the ceasefire and of bringing the hostages

home. let's take a listen to what she has. >> to say, and. >> then we'll. >> talk on the other side. >> i just. >> want. >> to tell president trump and bibi netanyahu and hamas. just let them go home. >> please let them go home. >> they've had enough. we've had enough. everybody in this country has had enough. and knowing. >> and feeling what it's. >> like and being all sides now, being a hostage, being worrying for my. >> husband. >> that was a hostage for. >> 484 days. >> and now that he's released and i'm released in one way, knowing. >> what they're going. >> through, hell, just. >> please wake up before it's too late. >> so again. >> we're. >> likely to. >> get the three names. >> tomorrow if. >> in. >> fact. >> we're moving. >> forward. and then the three more. >> hostages released. >> on saturday. the prime. >> minister has. >> said he has a plan.

>> for phase two, but has yet to be forthcoming about that plan. those talks likely to. >> resume this. >> weekend when the prime minister returns from the us. jose. >> and hey, peter. >> yasmin, i just. >> want to. >> because these. >> are things that just, you know, we see them and i. >> just i want to go back. >> to. >> the if i could the picture. that what the prime minister of israel gave president trump. >> as a. >> visiting president. and you see there in the middle of. >> of that. >> tree trunk press with both hands. that golden pager. this will remember these pages. hundreds of. them took. >> out essentially the. >> top and. >> middle level. organizers of hezbollah. >> when these pagers. >> went off, many. >> of these. >> hezbollah members. >> were killed. >> many were. >> severely injured. >> and then the next.

>> day. >> you know. >> walkie talkie started blowing up. but it's just want to. >> you know, see that picture again? it's a really. >> significant statement. >> that the prime. >> minister of israel is making with this gift. but peter, you wrote, quote, when. it came. >> to gaza. >> mr. trump's. thinking on tuesday was. >> so far. >> outside the box that it was not even clear where. >> he knew. >> there was a box. >> at all. how much. >> of a. >> shift is this, and. >> how real. >> of a. >> shift is this? >> well, if you take it seriously, it's a dramatic shift. it's something no president, since the creation of israel, you know, would have embarked on not just the idea of even forcibly, perhaps forcibly, but certainly removing the entire palestinian population of gaza, but the united states, then taking it over as a territory. that's what he's talking about here, which is so

remarkable because, of course, he ran in 2016 on getting us out of the out of the middle east, of extracting the united states from foreign entanglements and criticizing nation building in the iraq war. this would be the biggest, most extraordinary, expansive commitment of american treasure and resources that we've seen in quite a few years now, he said today in his social media post that it would not involve u.s. troops. that's hard to imagine. how on earth could you hold on to gaza, where there has been, you know, have been hamas terrorists for decades without u.s. troops? how would you defuze all of the unexploded ordnance that he talked about getting rid of without u.s. troops? you're going to are you going to, you know, subcontract that out to egyptian and israeli troops? i mean, it's all sort of fuzzy and not very well thought through. obviously, there's been no defense department analysis, no state department analysis.

this is just him talking. and we have very few details to actually judge it by. and that's why i think people are having a hard time taking it seriously because it seems so fanciful, so farcical even. and i think that it may be some people think just his way of getting the conversation going, trying to provoke people because he's not wrong that gaza is a demolition site. he's not wrong. that is a horrific place for 2 million people to live right now. but even so, many of those 2 million people don't want to be forced out of their home. >> yasmin vossoughian and peter baker, thank you both so much. >> next hour. >> my colleague andrea mitchell. >> will speak live with aviva siegel, whom you just heard a little while ago. she's the wife of. >> keith siegel. >> an american held hostage just released by hamas after almost 500 days. up next, an nbc news exclusive. >> new. >> details about the. >> plan to detain thousands. >> of criminal migrants. >> in guantanamo bay's high. >> security prison facility. plus, accusations of insubordination. >> at the fbi.

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this lawsuit about? >> well. >> it's. >> when we could see repeated. >> in. >> various federal. districts across the country, because what they're what they're saying. >> here is that. they want the. >> judge to be able to say that the policies, the sanctuary policies of both the city of chicago and the state of illinois are invalid, that they are illegal under the constitution and violate. >> the supremacy clause. >> they say that. because of the sanctuary policies. of chicago and illinois, they believe that many criminals, many. immigrants who have committed criminal acts, have been released onto the. streets without ice being notified. and they say that that is deliberately impeding the federal government's responsibility to be able to regulate undocumented. >> immigrants and. illegal immigration. >> into this country. in short, jose, what it says is. >> that a. >> sanctuary city. >> those law. >> enforcement officers have to tell ice when they encounter someone during. their operations that is not that is an undocumented immigrant. >> and. >> julia, this comes as you. >> have exclusive.

>> reporting about. >> how the trump. >> administration plans. >> to house. >> up to 30,000. undocumented immigrants. >> at guantanamo bay. >> yeah. >> that's right. >> and of course. >> we heard trump announce that last week. but here's what we know, jose, that's a little bit more specific. >> and frankly. >> hard to believe is that they're going to be putting these 30,000 not in the migrant operation center that already exists, that the u.s. has run for decades. that was for. people such as haitian migrants interdicted at sea. that was a temporary facility under much different conditions than, say, people who are alleged. terrorists who were in the high security prison. instead, they're putting them in the high security prison. >> and that's exactly. >> where those ten this week. >> were put. and in. >> order to expand that, they're going to be building. >> a tent city, essentially. >> where they're going to be housing more migrants, not in the migrant operation center, but under those high secure those high security perimeters. and they're going to have to bring in more staff. this would be behind barbed wire, and it's a very different climate. it also could impede, as we understand, the rights that

these people have if. >> they're not in this. >> migrant operation center, which basically went under the same conditions and due process as any immigration detention center would in the us. now the question is, will they have the same access to legal counsel and due process as they would as a migrant, or will they be treated like the suspected terrorists that are held in guantanamo bay? >> julia ainsley, thank you. >> very much. appreciate it. >> up next, some u.s. >> lawmakers call. >> it. alarming why. >> they're rushing. >> to ban. >> deep secrets. china's wildly popular new ai. >> app from. >> government phones. >> you're watching jose. doctor box, >> you're watching jose. >> diaz-balart reports on there were many failed attempts to fix my teeth. i retouched all my wedding photos, and it was even affecting my health. i trusted you because you specialize in dental implants. you created a permanent solution and customized my teeth so it still felt like me. my new teeth have improved my life and changed my future. - thank you. - you're so welcome. get the smile you want from the number one provider

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>> is with us this morning. savannah, great seeing you. >> so what do we know. >> about this app? >> and why do some lawmakers. simply want. >> to ban it? >> yeah. >> jose, good to be with you. thanks for. >> having me. that's actually news today. breaking news. >> that we. >> broke. >> this morning. >> the fact that lawmakers are. >> trying to. >> do just that. >> actually ban it on government devices. >> legislation is being introduced. >> they are. >> concerned about the information. >> that. >> this app. >> can gather and. >> then who and. >> what. >> it's able to. >> share it with on the chinese. >> side, despite. >> as. >> you. >> mentioned. >> its immense popularity. >> australia. >> south korea and taiwan are the latest countries announcing a ban of the surging ai app deep seek. plus, government. bans in the u.s. are also growing, with nasa, the navy and texas state government workers blocked from using the chinese owned app, all citing national security concerns. >> deep sea. >> spells it. >> out right. >> in its. >> privacy policy that they. are tracking. >> user keystrokes. >> and they. >> are saving that. >> data on chinese servers.

>> what does that mean. for users? >> where is that data going? is it to companies we trust? and are those privacy policies reflective of that? >> now, cybersecurity firm fruit says it's found evidence that users data is going to china with the ability. >> to. >> send that data to state owned china mobile, a telecom company already blocked in the u.s, with the pentagon citing ties to the chinese military. still, users don't seem to be scared off, with more than 16 million downloads since its launch. this, as openai is investigating whether. >> deep sea. >> used its models inappropriately to build a competing app. with so much buzz around deep sea, we wanted to use the app ourselves against the us's most popular ai chatbot, chatgpt. starting with concerns deep sea censors its answers. >> let's see what. >> happens when i ask. >> both deep. >> sea and. chatgpt about. >> chinese leadership. >> what do you think of. >> president. >> xi? deep sea?

>> just started an. >> answer and then immediately. >> said. >> sorry. >> that's beyond. my current scope. >> let's talk about. >> something else. >> whereas chatgpt is. >> giving a. >> detailed answer. >> when asked what happened at tiananmen square, deep seek simply refused to answer. >> it's going to generate and then its rules are going to tell you, hey, nope, you're not supposed to say that. wipe it. >> i asked both to compose an essay of someone they admire. >> okay. >> they picked. >> the same. >> person. >> both deep seek and chatgpt are saying they. >> admire malala. the concern is that you've got an account with deep seek, which is a chinese owned company. is our data the data that's all over our phone, all the signals that the phone can get and that app can get going to the chinese. >> so we reached out to deep seek. >> about what. >> you saw. >> there and. >> also about that. >> potential data collection. >> we did not hear back. >> we also. >> asked openai about. >> our demonstration. >> there with the two apps. >> we didn't hear back from them either. it is worth noting though, jose. also, as we tried

to even do this. >> demonstration several times. >> throughout at deep sea essentially. >> wasn't working. it wouldn't produce. >> any answers. it was like having an issue connecting to its server. a sign. >> that kinks are. >> still being. worked out. while millions. and millions. of u.s. users download that app. and the. >> hill looks. >> to potentially ban it from government devices. jose. >> yeah. >> savannah. the app not working. >> maybe it's that it doesn't. >> want. >> to answer what happened. >> in. >> tiananmen square, or what. >> are the conditions of. >> the uyghurs. >> in china? or when. >> was the. last time that a cultural revolution did anything but massacre. >> millions of people? maybe that's. >> why there's a little bit of a problem. >> in. >> that. in that. >> answering. >> it was. >> honestly stunning to see. we asked several. >> questions along those. >> lines, and every. time it was like, and joanna. >> our expert, made that point. >> it's. kind of like it. >> starts to answer and then it like. >> remembers its. >> rules and takes it back. it was really stunning. >> remembers its rules. absolutely. >> so it's always great seeing. >> you. >> my friend. thank you. >> appreciate it. up next. >> just this morning, a crucial. >> vote on kash patel's. nomination as fbi director

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department's number two official, amal bovey, has escalated his conflict with the bureau's acting director and his deputy. he's accusing. >> them. >> of insubordination after they resisted efforts to identify agents who. >> investigated the. >> january 6th attack. >> on the capitol. >> with us now, nbc justice and intelligence correspondent ken dilanian and john pistole, former deputy director of the fbi, who is now president of anderson university. >> so, ken, good morning. why did the senate judiciary. >> committee delay vote on patel's nomination? >> hey. >> good morning jose. well, that wasn't a surprise. any senator can delay a vote like this for one week. and senate democrats clearly still have many questions about patel's nomination. just today, they sent a letter questioning the fact that he wouldn't discuss his grand jury testimony in the mar-a-lago case, where he apparently took the fifth amendment. wouldn't talk about that on the committee. but this is standard practice. >> and, ken. >> meanwhile, let's talk about this issue. >> of an accusation. >> of insubordination. what could that potentially mean.

>> for fbi leadership? >> yeah, well, normally it would mean they would fire someone accused of insubordination. but this this whole situation is just so unusual and really speaks to the standoff that's happening right now between the fbi and the acting leadership, which was installed by the trump administration. let's remember, and the justice department, brian driscoll, the. >> acting director, has. >> really pushed back on, first of all, a plan for mass firings of fbi agents and then a plan to gather up the names of everybody who worked on january 6th investigations. and so there's a bit of a standoff going on. and in fact, in court today, because, as you know, there's a couple of lawsuits right now trying to prevent the justice department from releasing the names of people who worked on january 6th. the two sides, we have new reporting that the two sides are now trying to negotiate a binding agreement where the justice department would agree not to release those names as we move forward. jose. >> and. >> john, how do you see all of this? because there just seems to. >> be so much. movement there. but it's all really there's a very clear focus on identifying.

>> and we're. >> talking about maybe thousands of people who were involved in one way or. >> another in the. >> different investigations throughout pretty. >> much the whole country. >> well, that's right, jose. and i think that the concern is that it it looks like political retaliation. and so. >> if. >> you're looking at agents and prosecutors. >> who conducted. >> lawful activity that is now being recharacterized almost to the point of being criminal activity or insubordination, that's something that could result in being fired or somehow otherwise held accountable, which was. not the case in the first place. that is really creating what i would consider to be a crisis of confidence. within the. >> fbi to. >> can i do my job, that i took an oath to uphold and defend the constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic? and can i do that and yet be

subject to some type of retaliatory action. >> in this. >> administration, or, let's say, in the next. >> administration, when they're. they're different. politics involved? >> so my concern is. >> that there is a failure, that of distraction or disruption, that if you're looking at 4 or 00 agents, that they may then be distracted and disrupted from doing the work of keeping the american people. safe every day. >> from national. >> security threats. >> terrorists. >> spies. >> cyber terrorists, all these different things, drug trafficking cartels, all those things. so that's the concern that i see right now. >> yeah. and that crisis of confidence. >> john, i'm. >> just wondering if mr. bovi's. memo telling fbi agents that if. >> they did as they were ordered. >> and acted ethically. >> they would not be fired. >> but, you know. who determines what is. >> ethical or not? >> yeah. that's right. whose definition? >> just as. >> somebody saying, well, okay,

it was lawful at. >> the. >> time i did my job. and i just think the analogy, jose, of other. professionals say doctors, lawyers. >> teachers. >> other law enforcement officers. if you're doing what you are told to do and what you are authorized to do, and now somebody come back, comes back later and says, well, wait a minute, that surgery you did. >> or that representation. >> you did. or that teaching you did or that police officer, oh, well, you shouldn't have arrested that person. you should arrest this person. the fbi should not be politicized. that's the bottom line. it needs to be an independent agency that can investigate republicans, democrats, independents, or none of the above. if there's no credible allegations. to pursue one of the 300 plus federal statutes that. >> congress has. >> given the fbi authority. >> to investigate. >> not just go out because somebody has different political views. >> ken dilanian and john pistole, thank you both so very much. up next. donde estan los huevos? we'll talk to a farmer

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detected. >> a new. >> form of the virus in dairy cows in. >> nevada, meaning. >> there are now two different types of bird flu. infecting both. >> birds and cows. >> the virus. >> affecting more. >> than 153 million poultry. >> and over. >> 950 dairy herds. it's wiped out. entire flocks. >> at some farms, including. nearly 3000 hens at a. >> doodle farm. >> near chicago. and joining. >> us is. >> the owner of that. >> farm, marty thomas. hey, marty. can't tell you how much i appreciate the chance to. >> speak with you. >> first of all. you lost thousands of hens. >> what happened? >> yeah. >> we had about. >> 3000 birds on our farm just outside of chicago. >> here? >> yeah. it happened very, very quickly. >> and without any. >> symptoms either. >> which was. which was strange. >> yeah, there was it was very, very. cold out, like bitter cold. and we lost like 30 birds, which was unusual. the next day we, we thought it was just

environmental. because of the cold. but the next day, a couple hundred were dead. and we're like, man, this is this is something. so we got a vet involved who also because there was no symptoms and because we had a neighboring flock, which is the one that we're seeing here. this neighboring flock was fine. and so. >> he was. >> like, man, if this was the bird flu. you know, that flock would be that flock would. >> be dying off. >> and since there's no symptoms. so we operated the next couple of days. under the assumption that it was just environmental. but then once this flock here that we're seeing, it started dying a couple days later, and that's when. >> the usda got involved. >> and yeah, almost all of them died naturally within 72 hours. >> and marty. so no symptoms. >> i mean, they just. >> started dropping. >> just no symptoms. >> which is on the usda said that this strain that that that this is common. the first vet, we talked to. >> it. >> he wasn't aware of that. he you know, they they usually show some symptoms before they start dying out. but yeah, it's a little bit different this time

around it seems. >> so now you're. >> under 150. >> day quarantine. >> what does that. look like. >> yeah it's 120 actually. so a little bit better than 150. but yeah. so the farm is under quarantine which basically means we. >> can't bring. >> any. >> more chickens on the property. >> for that. >> length of time. >> fortunately, we. >> have another side of our business. >> which is a. >> like an online farmer's market. i'm in our distribution center now. and so fortunately we just got cleared from the usda to. >> continue this. >> side of the business, which is going to save us honestly. >> so i mean, what tell. >> me a little bit. >> about about your farm and. >> your business and just how important. >> it is for. >> everyone, but just what what's your. >> business like? what's your. farm like? >> yeah, yeah. so we just recently moved down to 74 acres, which is where. >> we. >> have the hens here. we're the farmer for. the eggs, and then we work with other producers for meat, greens, dairy, anything

that can be produced locally without chemicals. we aggregate from all those other local farmers, bring it here to the distribution center, and then we actually have a direct to home delivery model where we deliver our eggs and all the other farmers eggs or products direct to our community's doorsteps. >> and so all. >> these. >> chemicals and stuff, is that what? and i. >> know you're. >> different in so many ways, but what do. >> you think is causing this? >> i don't know. you know, it's like the whole reason that we're doing what we're doing is several years ago, i was diagnosed with non-hodgkin's lymphoma, which, best guess, it was tied to glyphosate, which is what they spray on all the corn and soy fields around here. >> so. >> you know, i. i never really paid attention to food, to be honest, up until that point. and then after going. >> through. >> that, my wife and i decided to move to 150 year old farmhouse and try to start to be farmers and get real clean, chemical free food to people. and so that's kind of why we're

doing what we're doing. i don't know, it's just conventional agriculture, i think is a big part of why we're in the situation that we're in, which is separate from the bird flu. that's a perhaps a different topic for a different day. >> yeah. hey, marty. >> everything is going. >> well. with you, right? >> i mean, things are going good. and other than. >> this, this, this big, you know, kind of stumble because of this bird flu. any idea. >> when. >> you can. >> recover, you know, how does that process, how long does that process take? >> yeah. so right after the 120 day quarantine, we're like clear to get at it again. and we will we'll reintroduce birds onto our property and other things. and so that's that's the ambition. >> hey, marty. >> thanks. i really. >> appreciate your time. really appreciate you being with us. >> yeah. thank you. >> take care. >> that wraps. >> up the hour for me. >> i'm jose diaz balart. >> thank you for the. privilege of your time. >> andrea mitchell picks up with more. >> news. >> right now.