know, it's just conventional agriculture, i think is a big part of why we're in the situation that we're in, which is separate from the bird flu. that's a perhaps a different topic for a different day. >> yeah. hey, marty. >> everything is going. >> well. with you, right? >> i mean, things are going good. and other than. >> this, this, this big, you know, kind of stumble because of this bird flu. any idea. >> when. >> you can. >> recover, you know, how does that process, how long does that process take? >> yeah. so right after the 120 day quarantine, we're like clear to get at it again. and we will we'll reintroduce birds onto our property and other things. and so that's that's the ambition. >> hey, marty. >> thanks. i really. >> appreciate your time. really appreciate you being with us. >> yeah. thank you. >> take care. >> that wraps. >> up the hour for me. >> i'm jose diaz balart. >> thank you for the. privilege of your time. >> andrea mitchell picks up with more. >> news. >> right now.

>> right now on andrea mitchell reports. president trump huddling with republican leaders on the budget today. as israel's prime minister. netanyahu makes the rounds on capitol. hill after mr. trump walks back, these parts of his controversial gaza proposal, now saying it will not require u.s. boots on the ground. >> mr. netanyahu, do you think are needed in gaza? are we ready to make. >> no. >> while a midnight. >> deadline looms for federal workers to decide whether or not to accept. >> elon musk's. controversial buyout? >> and protests spreading across the country against the shutdown of usaid. with me this hour to discuss it all is speaker emerita nancy pelosi and the top democrat on the senate intelligence committee, mark warner. i'll also be joined by aviva siegel, the former hamas hostage who just welcomed her husband home following his release by the terror group after 484 days in captivity.

good day everyone. i'm andrea mitchell. >> in washington. >> 2 million federal employees have only 12 hours to decide whether or not. >> to. >> take that controversial trump. >> buyout offer. >> unless a federal judge in. >> boston grants. a request filed by. >> federal workers unions for a temporary injunction. so far, the white house says more. than 40,000 federal. >> employees have. >> taken the deal to resign. >> with pay through september. it's part of elon musk's. >> plan to drastically reduce the federal government, but there are. unanswered questions. >> about whether. >> those packages, the pay packages could even. >> be canceled when. >> government funding runs out on march 14th, or whether they're legal at all. the budget. resolution is. >> the plan. >> focus of president trump's white house. >> meeting today with congressional republicans at this hour. >> but we begin with nbc news white house correspondent. >> yamiche alcindor. >> and nbc news justice and intelligence correspondent ken dilanian. so, yamiche, the

president attended not one but two. >> prayer. >> breakfasts this morning. he again joked about a possible third term, which is. not constitutional. it's about the fifth time, i think, by our count, that he's talked about this. >> they're showing no. >> signs of. >> slowing down. in fact, they're accelerating. >> the government takeover. and, you. >> know. >> drastic cuts. >> that's right, andrea. >> it's really another busy day in. >> washington after a series of. busy days. you're right to note that. >> president trump. >> has been joking about serving a third term that is unconstitutional. we're not clear how serious. he is there, but of course, we will continue to monitor that. >> but the president. >> has also been talking about a number of other things, including right now, at. this very. >> moment, he's meeting. >> with congressional republicans. >> to talk specifically about the budget. >> because on march 14th, government funding runs out. so they are trying as a party to avoid a government shutdown. there's also, of course, president trump doubling down on this. >> idea that. >> he wants the u.s. to own the gaza strip, and he wants the millions of palestinians who

live in gaza to be resettled into other arab nations. we know that arab leaders, including in jordan and egypt, that they are very much pushing back on. this and saying that they are not going to be on board with this plan. we also know that a number of palestinians who are living in that land say they do not want to be living and moving anywhere other than where their homeland is. so they are also pushing back on the ground there. but president trump saying that he believes that this can't happen, and benjamin netanyahu, the israeli prime minister, is also saying he's on board and possibly preparing some people and service members in israel to possibly move forward with such a plan. a lot of questions still remain there. and then, as you said, back here at home, there is that midnight, midnight deadline that is looming with federal workers wondering whether or not they should take this resignation offer to be paid through september, and then to resign their post. now, there's a lot of questions of whether or not that's going to happen. who's eligible? we also have some exclusive reporting at nbc news

that at the department of education officials there are warning people. that the government might not actually be able to sign and cash the check that they're offering people saying. >> that. it's not. >> guaranteed, especially after march 14th, if the government shuts down, that people would get paid if they did take this offer. so a lot of questions there, a lot of workers also, frankly angry and confused because a lot of people are wondering whether or not. >> they don't. >> take this deal if they're going to end up being fired. so a lot of questions looming there and a lot on the president's plate. andrea. >> no, absolutely. i mean, questions like how would their retirement or their severance be calculated? >> what what pay level. >> would this eight months apply? i mean, it's a very technical thing. and there's nothing in the. >> in the. >> law that seems to indicate that they they. could the buyout is legal. so can first explain the impact of the federal buyouts on the intelligence community, which, you. >> know, the. >> first. >> time the cia, the. >> virtually the whole workforce was. asked to take the. buyout

as well. and the impact on those who who say no. >> well, that's right, andrea, look, we don't know the full impact because it's not clear how many people at the cia, for example, are going to entertain and accept this buyout. but the larger impact, the message that it sends is we're trying to downsize the cia. and the result of this has been people who are eligible for retirement who are, in many cases, some of the most experienced. case officers and analysts in the intelligence community. many of them are leaving. so you're already seeing a brain drain of expertise amid, you know, this reporting that we have that the white house required the cia to send a list of names of probationary employees over an unclassified network. in some cases, only first name and first initial last name. but still a lot of fears that foreign intelligence agencies will be able to use that to reconstruct and figure out who's who at an embassy down the line. so just a lot of disquiet in the national security community about some of

these personnel moves, andrea. >> and also, there are a lot of developments involving the fbi today. what are you hearing from agents? >> yeah, well, we got a really moving message that had been circulating around fbi agents written by an agent who essentially said about the potential mass firings of january 6th agents, you know, this person said, look, i'm your neighbor. i'm your fellow pt pta member. i'm next to you in the pew. but i also helped prevent an isis terrorist from getting on an airliner. i tracked down, you know, a drug lord and helped put that person in prison. and yet now they're trying to fire me because i was ordered to work on a case where i acted lawfully and ethically. now, what it looks like, andrea, that those plans for mass firings have been staved off for now, in part because of the bravery and defiance of the acting fbi director, brian driscoll. but nobody that i'm talking to believes that they are completely out of the woods. there is a perception that the agents who worked on january 6th and on the mar-a-lago and

january 6th trump cases are at risk. and right now in court because, as you know, there's some lawsuits filed by agents. the two sides are trying to negotiate a binding agreement that would prevent the justice department from releasing the names of all the fbi personnel who worked on january 6th cases, because that is a big concern among fbi personnel. >> about their safety, of course. >> yes. >> yamiche alcindor. >> ken dilanian, a lot of turmoil going on. >> with the federal workforce and in washington and in government services. thank you both. and democrats. >> on capitol hill. >> have joined nationwide protests to push back on elon musk's shakeup of the federal government, particularly the impact that the cuts are already having on national security. the senate. intelligence committee vice chair, mark warner, told hundreds of protesters in washington on wednesday that the closing of usaid is, quote, a gift to our adversaries. >> where this is being celebrated right now is. >> beijing. >> it's beijing. and until we can end up not letting china

into this spot, we are making america less strong. >> that's senator mark warner is joining us now. >> it's beijing. >> and it's also moscow. >> where dmitry medvedev has. >> praised the end of usaid. >> they're applauding that china is celebrating because. >> foreign aid. >> has been such a force in u.s. diplomacy and global standing. talk to me about your concerns. >> well. >> andrea, where do i start? i mean, on. >> the. foreign aid. >> issue. >> we. >> spend less. >> than. >> half of 1% on. >> foreign aid. i think about sudan. where we've spent a year trying to. get aid into that country. >> where more people. >> die than gaza and ukraine combined. and yet we've got american aid sitting at. ports going rotten, because. >> all this assistance. has bee. >> removed and. >> china will definitely step in. there's no member of the intelligence committee. >> or. >> defense committee that. doesn't say the pennies. >> we spend. >> on foreign. aid is a lot

cheaper. >> in certain cases than sending in. >> our. >> military on. >> the buyout offers. >> i mean. >> remember, andrea, every scam artist. >> is the same. >> they want to, you know, rush, take. >> this. >> offer right now. >> expires at midnight. >> how many times do we see. >> that when you've got. >> people who. >> are traumatized already? and that. >> was what trump's omb director, russell vought, who we've been trying. >> to stop. >> right now, said he wanted. >> out of the federal workforce. >> but the idea that these buyouts where there's. >> no money. >> there's not legal. >> authority. >> the government potentially shuts down. >> march 14th. my fear. >> is. >> these folks are going to get scammed. >> and then. >> be the. >> first to be fired because they've raised their hands. and when we go. >> to. >> national security, my god. >> the idea that we are offering everybody. >> at the. >> cia, do we really think, do the d.o.j. bros. who are, you know, 25 year old coders think if we lose our best spies, it's some coder is. >> going to come and take that, take. that job tomorrow.

>> or at. the nsa, where we have the world's best cyber hackers. if they take this. unauthorized offer or put themselves in. >> harm's way. we are making our. >> country less weak. >> and i say to my republican friends on national. >> security, we've at least. >> been bipartisan. >> we've got to hear. >> your voices as well. >> and there is also the disclosure of this unclassified memo sent to the white house under an executive order identifying new hires over the last two years. >> those workers. >> could now i mean, this is now out there because it's unclassified. it could easily be hacked. these people are in embassies all over the world. their first names. >> their first names and their. >> last initial. >> and any ai tool can very. >> quickly scope that out. and figure. >> that out if it takes. what is insane. >> on. >> this is. >> it takes. >> 9 to 12. >> months just to get a security clearance. >> to go. >> in to. >> the cia. on top of that.

>> the training program. >> is rigorous. >> it takes virtually. another year. >> so you're talking about these people who've been. >> in for. >> a couple of years. >> if we burn. >> their identities. >> they can't perform. >> for the cia. >> so all of. those investments have been lost. >> because of. this sloppy approach. >> as we know, this administration doesn't value keeping secrets. seek safe. >> we know that. >> and it's one of the reasons. >> why i feel so. >> strongly that tulsi gabbard, i respect her service to our country, but i. >> don't think she has. >> the judgment or the ability to stand up, for example, to elon musk. >> and say, no. >> we. >> have to protect the. intelligence community. not expose them to harm. >> or try to undermine or traumatize that workforce. >> which seems to be she. >> seems to be gliding towards confirmation. do you think that these steps, the buyout offered to the cia, the release of that memo? do you think that these steps should raise more concerns

among republicans, that someone is with his little experience and intelligence, as she has really should not be trusted with the job? >> could this change any votes? >> listen. >> i hope so. i know. >> enormous pressure was. >> put. >> on. my republican. >> colleagues. >> but when. >> are we going to stand up? and as the national security committee. when are we going to stand up for the intelligence community. >> who never. >> get the kind of kudos. that our men and women in uniform get in the defense area? we've got to have voices stand up. at this point. you can't hack away at. >> a capacity. >> that has been. built up over decades and the intelligence community and say, we're going to take some 20 year old coder and replace that expertise. it is inefficient. it will cost taxpayer money and it will make our country. less safe. >> let me ask you about. >> gaza. >> because of the president's proposal that he floated, he was clearly reading from notes. it

was planned. he said he'd been thinking about it for months. but there's very substantial reporting that it was not vetted. >> with the. >> pentagon, with. >> the state. >> department, or even with netanyahu until they were walking out of one meeting and into the room, into the east room for the news conference. and now he has said, well, in a in a truth social post today, this morning, that there would not be u.s. boots on the ground, which he had not ruled out previously, but he's still sticking to clearing out palestinians, potentially 2 million people want. >> to stay. >> in gaza, and having the u.s. own gaza rebuild it. >> well, andrea. >> i mean, if. >> this is deal making expertise 101, then he ought to. >> be fired. because let's. >> we don't know any of the details. >> if there are palestinians. >> who want. >> to leave. >> the war. zone voluntarily open to them. without any details. to launch this. >> which. >> frankly.

>> would have huge pushback. >> from the arab. >> world where we need to build. >> better ties. >> and it. >> sounds to me. >> like, you. >> know. >> countries. >> the gulf countries in the region with enormous. >> resources, like. >> saudi arabia, the emiratis, i thought our. >> goal. >> was. >> to pressure. >> them to finance rebuilding of gaza. >> the idea that america. >> is going to take on that financial responsibility, this was going to be the guy, mr. trump, that was supposed to end the. endless wars. what you may do with. >> this is. >> not only if it's forcible removal. we will have enemies. in that region that will never make peace. and i want there to be peace. >> i think the. >> palestinians in gaza, you have a have rights that have to. >> be restored. >> so the question is, you know, with no details out there. i'm not going to weigh in entirely. but the idea. >> that we would. >> take on the financial obligation doesn't make doesn't make business sense. i spent 25

years longer in business than i have in politics. that would not be somebody i'd hire into my m&a department. >> senator mark warner, chair of the intelligence committee, thanks very much. and she was held by hamas for 51 days. and then five days ago, after her, she was released a year ago november, her husband was finally released. he was held hostage for more than a year. next, i'll talk to aviva siegel. >> giving her. >> first tv interview since welcoming her husband keith home. and later speaker emerita nancy pelosi. >> joining us live. >> on president trump's remaking of the federal government. but first, another asmr moment to share. can you respond. >> to thank. >> you. >> thank you. >> can you respond to. >> our thank you. >> excuse me, mr. secretary. can you respond? >> thank you. >> the threats. >> from china. >> thank you guys, we're leaving. >> we haven't been in yet. thank you. >> thank you. >> thank you. can you can you assure us that. >> russia will. >> not be.

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is on capitol hill at this hour, just days after hamas released the first american israeli hostage in more than a year after 484 days in captivity. keith siegel, 65 years old, was freed on saturday surrounded by members of hamas at first before he was turned over, giving a wave to the crowd. this was a day that his family and his friends had been waiting for 15 months, especially his wife aviva, who was also a hostage until last november. for more than 50 days, she was released without him in november of 2023, was finally able to welcome him home. and aviva siegel joins me now. aviva, it's so wonderful to see you. first of all, how is it having keith home? >> well. >> you know, it's a breed differently i feel differently.

i feel like. >> a different person. >> i just can't tell everybody how stressed i was for a year and two months, coming back from captivity and leaving keith, there was the worst thing that could ever happen to me. and i'm just so, so happy to have him back. i want to say that when keith came back the first day, he looked terrible. he's lost so much weight and he really looked pale, sick. and we with him, we're hugging him, loving him, and he looks different and he's getting stronger and we love it. >> i wanted to ask. >> you because i saw him looking so thin when he came out on saturday, and being welcomed, of course, and embraced by you and your wonderful daughters. and then i saw an interview that. we did. >> in in. >> tel aviv yesterday with his brother lee. but how. >> is. >> he doing physically and mentally?

>> you know, he's in a shock. we're all in a shock. and he's he's completely in a shock, not understanding exactly that he's here already. and i can understand that being in gaza for four for so long, for, for so many days and so many minutes and just wanting to come back, not knowing if he'll ever survive and come back alive. and now he's here with us, hugging us, eating with us. and it's just beyond any words saying how happy he is and how happy we are. but i just want to say that having keith home and hearing the stories of what he went through in captivity makes me even stronger. shouting for the hostages that are still there, that we cannot forget that i think about, that the families think about that the country thinks about. and i just want to

remind everybody that the palestinians in gaza have rights, but the hostages that are still in gaza need to get their rights back because they have hearts and they feel, and i just hope that they that they don't feel that they've been forgotten. we need them back as soon as possible. we need them back alive. >> i've been talking to rubicon and the neutrals and, you know, jonathan simon. saki's father. rather, jonathan tzekel-kan and these other families. and they're desperate, but they are so happy for you. so happy that keith is out. ellen alexander. >> also still. >> being held. what did he tell you about the way he was treated by hamas? >> first of all, i want to say that all the all the families of the hostages, the ones that are alive and the ones that aren't

alive, i want them to feel free, like i feel today. i want them to feel the love that they have for this world. and until they won't get their hostages back, they won't feel like i feel. and they deserve to feel like they. well, keith is. he's getting stronger every minute. i feel that he's a little bit better, but he's still in hospital and we're going to look after him and he's going to have lots of tests to do, and we're going to do everything that we can to make him feel like he's back in a in a decent world, in a world that that can see him as a human being. >> was he afraid for his life? was he threatened? >> he was threatened so many times. he wasn't treated like a human being should be treated. and he went through so much of hell of hamas terrorists that didn't didn't even see him as a person. and he needs everybody

needs to understand that all the hostages that are still there are going through what he went through, and it's just impossible for me to understand that it's taking so long. they're not even talking about deal number two. they should talk about everybody coming home now. so i'm begging. i'm begging from. and i want to thank trump for keith coming home. and i want to thank him for understanding that it's not human, for any person to be in gaza as a hostage, by the way, they treated like i was treated. and for him to understand how important it is to get them all out, and we need to push and scream and get them all out. that's the most important thing for this world. this world needs to understand that nobody should suffer like they suffering. y traveled all over the world urging anyone who would

listen to help bring keith and the other hostages home. so your message to the negotiators, the qataris, president trump, steve witkoff, who's been he's actually. >> gone. >> to gaza and he's. been working so hard on this. your message about how important this is. the egyptians and the others. >> yes. for sure. listening to keith and hearing what he went through, keith is 65 years old. and what he went through is beyond any anybody to understand what he went through. and we can't we can't we cannot let them stay there. we just can't. we have to get them out. and i want to thank you from the bottom of my heart for listening to me so many times in the nbc. and it's because you're just such a sensitive person and understanding that this world needs to be a better world. so i

want to thank you so much for that, for being so kind for israel, so kind to my family and helping bringing keith home. >> well, aviva. >> it's your courage and your family's courage, your incredible daughters that i applaud. and knowing you and continuing to know you in the future is a great privilege for me. thank you. >> it's an honor to be here with you today. thank you so much. >> thank you so much. >> and up. >> next. >> speaker emerita nancy pelosi, joining me on the barrage of new actions from the president and elon musk. this is andrea mitchell reports on msnbc. >> your life is pretty smart. >> but when it's time to eat, suddenly. you feel out of sync. >> refresh your routine with factor. chef prepared meals delivered. >> with a tap.

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that's one (800) 403-7539. >> democrats are blasting the trump administration's moves to shrink the federal government and slash foreign aid. a wave of anti-trump protests erupting nationwide wednesday with opposition to his immigration crackdown, his gaza comments and to elon musk. this is the justice department has limited access to musk's team, has to a highly secret treasury payment system. joining me now is speaker emerita nancy pelosi. so, so much to talk about. so first of all, your reaction to these first steps. the first three weeks have been the shutdown of many departments

already. the foreign aid, the attempts by elon musk's people to get into the treasury payment system. i mean, where to start? what do you think about. >> well. >> the democrats should do. >> we're very proud of. hakeem jeffries. >> our leader. >> he has given us guidance on our priorities of what we're here to fight for, but also. >> how we counter. >> the trump administration with litigation in the courts, legislation on the floor of the house, as well as communication and mobilization at the grassroots level. our focus. >> has largely. >> been on domestic. now they're. doing some foreign affair. senator warner, i thought, perfectly. addressed the issues that relate to intelligence, asking for the names of sources of. >> of sources. and therefore. >> methods of our intelligence, which is there to protect our men and women in uniform and the american people is with stiff competition. one of the worst.

ideas of this administration so far, with stiff competition. the worst idea. i don't even think president trump knows about it, because it doesn't even reach the level of his lack of sophistication in. >> terms of intelligence. >> but in terms of this, you name several. >> things. >> and the what. >> they're doing. >> at the treasury department. >> is directly connected. >> to the kitchen table of american people in terms of the privacy of their. >> information. >> whatever prescriptions you or i may be taking are now in their hands, they can make that known. >> the issues. >> about cutting spending. and as. >> we negotiate the bills is affecting rural america. virginia, so many rural community health centers are being shut down in this republican governor state here. so this has a people have to understand that this isn't. only about global, this is about you.

it's about personal. >> well, in fact, $2 billion of the usaid budget is to buy american farmers surplus crops to feed the starving people in sudan and gaza and elsewhere in the world. >> where the farmers are the point. >> but mostly. >> all of our foreign assistance has been. invested in ukraine. almost 90% of the money that we spent on weaponry for ukraine is spent in the united states. almost that much of the humanitarian assistance. >> our defense industry, manufacturing those weapons. >> it's about jobs, jobs, jobs in the united states. but these issues, for example. >> medicaid. >> the threat that they are to medicaid, medicaid people think of as a poor people program. and for poor children, it is but a large amount of the money that is spent on medicaid is for middle income family benefit for their seniors to have health

care, a long term care, long term care. >> they're in. >> a place where this is covered. otherwise they'd be living in their homes, which they may or may not have the space for, or the just the dynamic for. so again, this is about what they their goal in life is to give tax cuts. to the rich. that's the only thing they did when they had the power before $2 trillion to the national debt, 83% of the benefit to the top 1%. and they want to do it again. >> even bigger. >> and so. >> how do they do that? >> but by saying we have to cut these other things that go right to the kitchen table, these tariffs. ridiculous. right to the kitchen table, increasing costs rather than reducing costs, which the president said was a priority for him. >> and bill gates has been one of the leading experts on global

health and on improving health in africa and other underserved parts of the world. and he went to the white house yesterday to meet with the president and with the chief of staff, siouxsie wiles. and here's what he said to savannah. >> guthrie afterwards. >> i definitely. >> made the case. >> that programs. like the. >> president's malaria initiative. >> that goes back to president bush and in particular, pepper, you. >> know, which is. >> preventing mothers from transmitting. hiv to their babies. probably the ugliest. >> face of aids is. >> that unless. >> you intervene. your baby. >> will get. >> infected and. >> only live a few years. >> now, pepfar was begun by george w bush in coordination with. >> with the democrats in the congress. >> the democrats. >> in united states. >> i know, but it was a it was embraced by bush, by bono. it was a it was a bipartisan

effort. on bono. and they. saved 26 million people. and right now, from my information, those hiv drugs are not getting to the people who are already on them. and without those drugs, they will lapse into, you know, terrible new infections and opportunistic hiv viruses of different sorts. so. >> well. >> you're right. >> to acknowledge president bush. he was very much a part of our. >> initiative. >> but it was bipartisan. and i said to bono, no photo op unless this is a big pepfar and it is a big pepfar, and the president, president bush and laura bush have been faithful to it to visit sites and all the rest. >> so what would you say to donald trump about this cut? because my reporting is that, well, marco rubio, the secretary of state, quickly said, well, we'll have a waiver for vital health needs and food. those waivers are not legally applicable yet in the field. so

people in the field are still not able to distribute that aid because they need more than a waiver, more than a memo to go back to work. >> exactly right. and many people do not have their jobs anymore in order to implement what a waiver might be able to provide. but what i would say to your question to the president is all of this pepfar, again, praising president bush and the democrats in the congress. this protects the american people. when covid was active, i talked to the head of the w.h.o. and i said, has our action on pepfar helped us with this? he said, absolutely. the science of the distribution of drugs, all of that has been positive in terms of preventing the further spread of covid. so there are other things that we ebola, other things that we could be victimized in our own country if we don't keep it away from us by protecting those people. and one

more point on that is that the i visited these centers where the people would come in for pepfar and. >> they would say. >> i would never have admitted that i was hiv positive. i'm family if it weren't for pepfar, because there was no answer. but pepfar is an answer. and as i said, the president and the first lady, bush and laura, they have been true to it. >> does the president, president trump, in his first term, you stood up to him famously. you stood up to him in a meeting when you, you know, actually walked out of that meeting because of what was going on with the congressional leaders and maybe even more famously, at a state of the union. you tore up his speech. you were the fac, really the embodiment of the democratic resistance in trump

one. there there's there are leaders in both parties, obviously, hakeem jeffries, chuck schumer, but there's no national leader right now. how can democrats fight back? >> well, i think. >> that our congressional leadership is going to is very strong. and as they put forth their agenda, they've only been in office, what, three weeks now? is it three, two and a half weeks that the trump administration and as i said, our our leader was hakeem jeffries working with chuck. of course, litigation. hold them up in the courts. slow down this process legislation. we will be having legislation introduced. >> how do you pass anything when they've got the majority? >> well. >> you know what you do. here's what we did. let me just say in oh six we hadn't won since 1992. harry reid and i said, we're going to win this election. and we made a decision with outside mobilization. so these members will be hearing from people about how they are affected by

the assault on the affordable care act, on all the medicaid included in that and all these other things. these members will be hearing there's only a 2 or 3 vote, depending on the day margin that they have in the in the house of representatives. >> president biden has said that he thinks he could have won if he hadn't been pressured to step down. do you agree? >> well, all i know is that we won a seat in the house. we did not lose any seats. you know, people were like, oh, the democrats lost. no, we did not. i think it would have been quite different with president biden at the top of the ticket. >> the former first lady, jill biden, has spoken out saying she was disappointed in you. is there any way to patch that up? have you spoken to her? >> well, i certainly hope so. no, i haven't, but the fact is that we're all on a mission for the american people, for the american people, for america's working families. my whole passion about being in politics

is for the children. so what is it that we're doing for the children? i think that it would have been important for the children to not have donald trump be president of the united states, and that is a i would take every step necessary to make sure that didn't happen. but it did. and now we have to deal with it. and in about 6 or 7 months, you're going to see such a change. by the time we start our campaigns in this fall for next fall, you're going to see a very different picture about the democrats vis a vis donald trump. >> well, you still have so much fight in you. i'm glad to see you after your accident. now you're better. >> well, let me just say it's my honor to be here with you today on one of your last days. you have been a trailblazer for women in your in your field, but beyond your field as well. for young women wanting to make their own mark. so thank you for the wisdom, for the judgment,

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president trump, that the two sides need to start negotiating. andrea, nobody wants peace more than us. ever since russia attacked. >> us in 2014, and. >> especially 1078. days now. >> ago. >> ukraine always wanted. >> to get to a just and. >> lasting peace. and as. >> you remember. >> when russians pretended. >> to negotiate in. >> 2022. >> we put together. >> the team. >> and we tried hard. >> of course. >> while defending. >> our country. >> now russia can stop this. >> war any day. >> they should just stop the. >> aggression. >> get out from. >> our country. >> that's the. >> end of. >> the war. >> so it's really. >> a, you know. surprising that they say somebody else has. to has to do something. it's them. >> who have. >> to. do something. >> but ukraine. >> of course. >> will not be a problem there. >> and president. >> zelenskyy has always been ready. >> not only. >> to defend. >> the. >> country, as we all are doing, and. >> he's leading. >> the country in defense, but. >> also saying. >> that. >> we are open.

>> to any. >> diplomatic engagements in. >> order to bring peace faster. >> that's why we started. the peace formula. that's why president. >> zelensky not only. >> presented his. >> peace formula. >> but. >> we. had rounds and rounds. >> of discussions. >> on it. >> and we are. ready to. do that. but as you rightfully. >> said at the. >> beginning. >> it's putin and russia. >> who started. >> this war. they have to change their intent. >> and they have to want. >> to stop it. do you feel pressured by president trump, who had said he could stop this war on day 1 in 20 four hours? clearly, that's not happened. it's not going to happen. but do you feel pressured by his position and his affinity with vladimir putin? >> andrea. >> we. >> work very. >> actively, not. >> only with congress on a. very strong bipartisan basis, but with president. >> trump's team. >> and the new administration now. >> and we. all pray. >> that president trump is. >> successful in his efforts. >> to bring this war to an end.

>> so, look, we are sharing our information. we are. >> sharing the. >> battlefield update. it's clear. >> to us. >> and we are very glad to hear from. >> president trump. >> and secretary. >> bassett and secretary. >> rubio that. >> you know about the new potential. sanctions packages, about sanctioning iran. you know, the initiative. >> yesterday, the axis. >> of evil has to be stopped and has to be brought to the table. >> and. >> you know, we can together do it. and ukraine. is not only defending our country, but as we say, we. >> are defending. >> also and not. >> just europe. >> but essentially. >> defending freedom and the right to be who. >> people want to be. >> the right to pray, the right to live. like we want. >> to. live because. >> it's, again, it's. >> an unprovoked, unjustified aggression. >> and ukraine. >> was never. >> a threat to russia. >> both sides are suffering grievous losses, but russia seems to have unlimited manpower because of the north koreans and

others. as you mentioned, the iranian drones or their military keeps getting resupplied. china is helping them financially, skirting the sanctions on oil. they are still buying buying oil. so do you have to consider some compromise, letting russia keep the territory that it has already, and some agreement that you won't get into nato, at least not in the near future? well. >> let's look back. >> at this war. i mean, you can look at the map and see how big russia is and how small ukraine is compared to russia. >> although we are. >> the largest country in europe. >> but, you know, since. >> this aggression. >> we were able to liberate. 50% of what putin has taken over. >> we are conducting successful. >> defense operation in kursk. >> even though. >> russia is helped by north korea and. iran and. >> this 11,000. >> soldiers that they even

brought from north korea, they were not able to achieve any of their strategic goals. and we are defending our country like david defended and fought against goliath. so i think it's too early. now to discuss what. >> the negotiations could be about, frankly. >> i mean. >> the. >> question. is russia ready to negotiate? we are defending our country. we are ready to negotiate. >> we are. >> ready to find a. diplomatic solution to that. but then we have to also keep in mind russia violated not only international law and our border when they crossed the border of a sovereign country and started killing our citizens and kidnaped more than 20,000 of. our children and still keep hostages. so many in russia, and does all these horrible. >> war. >> crimes one day after another after another. just today, kharkiv largest market was again bombed, 100 pavilions, you know, and it's every kharkiv and every

day, every other day there are hundreds of drones and dozens of missiles flowing into the peaceful cities in ukraine. this must be, you know, this. this must stop. but at the same time, i think, you know, right now, let's all together work on what can we do. and we are really hopeful that it will be successful, that we can win and start focusing on developing together, you know, returning to normal life and rebuilding and healing. but right. >> now, we just have. >> to be honest with our viewers. i mean, the situation on the ground still did not change. russia is still an aggressor and the war is still ongoing. >> ambassador makarova, thank you so very much. really appreciate your coming in. >> thank you. thank you andrea. >> and up next, the latest on the legal battle over birthright citizenship with a court hearing just moments from now. and you're watching andrea mitchell reports. this is msnbc. joining

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see if a cam icu's moment may be in your future to. >> in just a few moments. a federal judge in seattle will hold a hearing on president trump's executive order aimed at limiting birthright citizenship. the same federal judge previously issued a temporary restraining order blocking the president's order from taking effect, calling it blatantly unconstitutional. joining me now is nbc news homeland security correspondent julie ainslie. so, julie, in addition to the hearing next hour, there's another hearing in boston tomorrow, i believe, including yesterday's hearing. how are these cases different? >> well, in short, the decisions have been the same as we saw yesterday in maryland. and we previously saw from this judge in seattle. the judges are finding this to be completely unconstitutional for trump to try to end birthright citizenship without going through congress, where he would have to get a two thirds majority in order to change the 14th amendment in seattle. this very judge that we're going to hear from again in just five minutes when the hearing begins

there. that judge previously said it boggled his mind. this is an 85 year old reagan appointed judge that anyone would try to say that it was constitutional or legal to try to end birthright citizenship through an executive order. that was a temporary restraining order. what they are now seeking is a preliminary injunction to stretch that out. but in the end, andrea, all of this is going to go to the supreme court because these different lawsuits are going to be appealed, as trump has said that he would do to the previous order in seattle. and it will keep going up until the trump administration is willing to take this to the supreme court, to have them weigh in on whether or not the president is within his authority to end birthright citizenship, so that if any baby is born in the united states, they would have to be born to a u.s. citizen, mother or father, or a legal permanent resident. and andrea, i have to say, as you end your 17 year run. >> here. >> i call you a friend. i call you a mentor. congratulations on your run, and i'm so glad you're going to be sticking around the washington bureau and the

neighborhood so i can continue. that's right. >> we are neighbors at home. >> thank you so much, julia. thanks for all your work. thank you. on our program. and that continues as well. and that does it for this edition of andrea mitchell reports. remember, follow us on social media at mitchell reports. you can rewatch the best parts of our show anytime on youtube. just go to msnbc.com slash. andrea. i'll to msnbc.com slash. andrea. i'll be here tomorrow. chris jansing covid-19? i'm not waiting. if it's covid, paxlovid. paxlovid is an oral treatment for adults... with mild-to- moderate covid-19 and a high-risk factor for it becoming severe. it does not prevent covid-19. my symptoms are mild now, but i'm not risking it. if it's covid, paxlovid. paxlovid must be taken within the first 5 days of symptoms... and helps stop the virus from multiplying in your body. taking paxlovid with certain medicines can lead... to serious or life- threatening side effects or affect how it... or other medicines work, including hormonal birth control. tell your doctor about all medicines, vitamins, and herbal supplements you take as certain tests or dosage changes of your other medicines may be needed. tell them if you have kidney or liver problems,

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