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controversial executive order over birthright citizenship was back in front of a federal judge. what? they just ruled. our nbc news reporters are following all of the latest developments. let's start with nbc's ken dilanian in washington with those new restrictions on doge. ken. what exactly does this mean for their access? >> well, chris, this is pursuant to an agreement between the justice department and a union that was suing to prevent doge from getting access to these treasury systems. and what the justice department said in this hearing is that the allegation that any personal information of americans was being shared with any of elon musk's employees was false. they did say that there were two members of the team that had read only access to certain database systems, and i have to say, chris, look, this is fairly common in the government. the government relies on contractors all the time and gives them access to sensitive information. after all, edward snowden was a contractor. he had access to the nation's secrets that ended badly. but most contractors are trusted the same way they are as

government employees. what's unusual here is that you have elon musk and his people coming in with a mandate to remake the federal government, and they're getting access to very sensitive systems. in this case, they seem to have come to an agreement to limit that access. and now, so two of musk's employees have read only access again to some very sensitive treasury payment systems. chris. >> ken dilanian, thank you. well, the ncaa will now follow president trump's executive order banning trans women from women's sports teams. nbc's yamiche yamiche alcindor is at the white house for us. so ncaa president charlie baker said in december there are actually less than ten transgender athletes that he knows of. but what more can you tell us about this decision? >> well, let's start, chris, with just that number. we know that the ncaa president back in december told senators that fewer than ten transgender athletes were competing in college sports. that number ten is out of 510,000 athletes. so

just ten. that's a very small number. we also know that the cdc, they released numbers on transgender high school students. they said roughly 3% of high school students identify as transgender, and about 2% have at some point questioned their gender identity. despite these numbers being small, the impact of president trump's executive order is not small. what you're seeing is, as you said, the ncaa saying that they're going to align their policies with what they called a new national standard being set by the trump administration. you also have a number of other sort of sporting committees looking at this, including there's a lot of questions about whether or not the olympics that are coming to la, coming to the united states in 2028, whether or not they're going to be impacted because the trump administration is saying that they're going to be making sure that this policy is enforced, including when it comes to visas. so they might be looking at transgender athletes that might be trying to come to the united states and saying, well, if you're trying if you're a transgender woman trying to compete in a woman's sport, that they might deny your visa. so a lot of questions there, a lot of

legal questions. but the but the bottom line here is that the trump administration is making it very clear that it does not want transgender women competing in women's sports. and of course, this was a big issue for the president during his campaign. a lot of supporters, a lot of people who voted for him, wanted to see this passed, even though, of course, there are a lot of critics, including people who say transgender americans are being targeted by this administration. chris. >> yamiche alcindor, thank you. and now to the eviction of former coast guard commandant linda fagan, just two weeks after she was fired by president trump. and with just hours notice, nbc's courtney kube helped break this story for us. what exactly happened here? >> yeah. so the commandant of the u.s. coast guard, admiral linda fagan, the first woman, as you said, chris, to lead a military service branch. she was the first major service member or general or flag officer to be fired after donald trump was inaugurated on day two. he he fired her from her role. now, about two weeks later. we've learned, according to two officials familiar with this,

this incident, that she was given three hours notice yesterday to vacate the house that she has been occupying, basically the commandant's quarters on joint base anacostia-bolling right here in dc. now, according to the officials, she was she was notified at 2 p.m. that she had to leave by 5 p.m. she did not give the officials permission for anyone to enter her home though. this home, which, by the way, she still has a lease on, she didn't give them permission to enter it or because her things were still there. now the u.s. military is responsible for the belong all of her personal belongings that are still inside that home for moving them. but the reality is, chris, i think some viewers might say, well, she was fired two weeks ago. what was she still doing living in the house? the coast guard had given her a 60 day period to stay in the house. within those 60 days, she to find another place to live and to get moved out. the military will move her as is common. this is really striking, this incident, chris, because the officials who we

spoke with said, look, yes, when you leave a job, especially if no matter the manner in which you leave that job in the military, you are expected to vacate the premises, the housing that is provided to you. but to go in and say someone has to leave in just three hours, that is extremely uncommon. >> chris courtney kuby, thank you for that reporting. now to that federal hearing over president trump's birthright citizenship order. nbc's julia ainsley is following this story for us. and i understand the judge just ruled. what did he say? >> that's right. chris, as expected, this judge did issue a preliminary injunction that's nationwide relief for these parties, which included 22 states who were worried that this executive order from trump would go into effect, limiting birthright citizenship to only people born of parents, or at least one parent that is a u.s. citizen or a legal permanent resident in the united states. this was a quick ruling, just like we had a quick temporary restraining order from this

judge previously. we should point out this is a judge who was appointed by ronald reagan and previously said it boggled his mind that anyone would defend ending or changing the 14th amendment through an executive order, rather than going through congress. now, we also got to hear, of course, from the states attorney general, including washington state's attorney general nick brown, about why they needed relief so that this did not go into effect. here's what he had to say. >> we do not have a king. we have a president who must abide by the laws. and if they want to amend the constitution, there is a process by which to do that, because as of today, we're back to the status quo that we've had in this country for 150 years, that you are an american. if you are born on u.s. soil. >> now, brown and others argued to the judge today that as far as relief and the parties that would be hurt, they argue that there would be an immense amount of suffering for those who would be changed if they ended birthright citizenship. but the trump administration, they would

have nothing changed. now, of course, this is one of many cases just like this playing out across the country. we saw another injunction just yesterday in maryland. there's another hearing on this order tomorrow in boston. all of this, chris, probably likely to end up guess what in the supreme court. >> there you have it. a very busy supreme court. julia ainsley, thank you. well, business in india's parliament was put on pause earlier today after opposition lawmakers staged this protest wearing handcuffs and carrying signs that read humans, not prisoners. they're protesting what they say was the mistreatment of 104 indian immigrants by the u.s. being shackled during their deportation flight on wednesday. india's foreign minister says the focus should be on a strong crackdown on the illegal migration industry in 90s. it isn't just their job security. we have new reporting now that employees at usaid are worried employees at usaid are worried about their personal data.

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>> just learning this. and apparently, in addition to all the other problems, layoff notices, furloughs, some usaid and state department career employees are now concerned that their personal devices may be being monitored. according to those civil servants and foreign service officers telling us the career employees have received pop up messages in the last few days warning them that information on their personal phones or laptops could be tracked. and that's an example of what they're seeing. and so when you see this, this note, according to people who were involved, they'd never seen something like this before. this monitoring system was put in apparently, you know, their laptops were connected because of covid from work, from home. but now they're finding that these notices are telling them that their devices, their laptops and their phones could be monitored by the trump administration. so this is just adding to all of the anxiety over there, just as their jobs

are at stake there. you know, the website is down, their offices are closed. and the potentially the whole organization is at risk. protests around the country, as you know, and on the hill. but even, you know, in kansas, the agriculture community, the farmers are concerned because $2 billion of their $40 billion budget is to pay american farmers for their surplus crops to go overseas. and now that food is rotting in ports around the world, and people in ■sudan and gaza and elsewhere are not getting it. chris. >> andrea mitchell thank you. well, despite warnings about stopping u.s. aids work from a groundswell of protest to the halls of congress, plans to dismantle usaid haven't changed. billionaire microsoft founder bill gates lobbied for usaid in a meeting with the president at the white house yesterday. but gates arguments don't seem to have landed. trump believes that d.o.j. is rooting out

corruption. >> we're catching. >> him up to a point where they don't. >> know what the heck is going on. they can't believe they're getting caught. and i have great respect for the people that are doing it. elon musk is helping us on it, and he's pretty good. >> hey, i've been out in the field with usaid. you know, these people who choose to work and. nigeria or congo or gaza or ukraine, you know, they are. it's unbelievable what an asset that is. you know, i know all the development agencies of all the countries, and this is the best of them. >> as the headline in the new york times puts it, the world's richest men are taking on the world's poorest children. that column from nick kristof, who joins us now. nick, i. your column really hit me. and when you hear what andrew just said, for example, food rotting and not getting to people who are

starving. when you listen to the president and you listen to bill gates, it's like they're talking about two completely different organizations. you've been all over the globe seeing firsthand usaid's work. what will the dismantling, what is the dismantling of usaid doing to children? >> it's killing children, chris. i mean, that's the bottom line. and this notion that president trump talks about is some corrupt agency and kind of rogue employees is just so outrageous. you know, 99 usaid people have died over the years in the line of duty. these are people who are risking their lives, and then they're treated like some kind of crooks. it is just appalling. you know, and remember, in 2014 when donald trump, private citizen, was terrified and cowering about the risk of the ebola epidemic that

started in west africa? you know, the reason that didn't reach the u.s. in a major way was precisely because you had usaid employees on the ground in guinea and sierra leone and liberia risking their lives to try to stop that. and right now, there is a ebola outbreak in liberia, a marburg virus outbreak in tanzania. and now, because of musk and trump, you don't have usaid employees trying to stop that there. you know, these the idea that they are somehow engaged in all these kind of woke gestures when what they're actually doing is saving kids lives from hunger, from starvation, from aids, from malaria is just a complete misrepresentation. and, you know, how often have donald trump or elon musk risk their lives on behalf of public service?

>> i was with samantha power nick in liberia and sierra leone and guinea in 2014. i saw the life saving work those folks did to help avert the pandemic, at a time when americans were indeed in a panic. and you talk about these other outbreaks, this growing ebola outbreak in uganda without usaid, how scared should we be, not just obviously for ourselves, although we were very scared here in the united states in 2014, but what could happen out in the world? >> so it's very hard to gauge the actual risk of ebola or marburg or avian flu reaching us. but that risk is higher today than it was a week ago because of what trump has done, for example. you know, experts are clearly concerned about a major avian flu pandemic worldwide. one way we stop that is with surveillance around the world. well, because of this, defunding bird flu surveillance

has been interrupted in 49 countries around the world. so this notion that this is simply, you know, do gooders wasting money somewhere else is completely misleading. yes, it is about our values, but it's also about our interests. and this is a crucial element of our national security. >> well, if someone isn't moved by the avoidable and potentially painful deaths of poor children, you point out in your column that when president kennedy proposed the creation of usaid, it would actually do what d.o.j. says it wants to do save money, help us understand that calculus. >> so, you know, if you think about how much we spent on the covid 19, how much devastation that did to the american economy and to the global economy, you know, that the way to stop that would have been early on in one

particular place. and, you know, that is precisely what this trump effort has stopped. if you don't address things at the front end, you end up paying much, much more at the back end. and look, we confront china with expensive aircraft carriers, but we also compete with china in africa, for example. you know, china is going to be thrilled at our just pulling out of the competition. it was striking that when robert gates was defense secretary, he was pleading with congress to allocate more money to usaid because those kinds of investments are in a crucial escort of military spending. when jim mattis was testifying before congress, he said that if you don't invest in diplomacy, you've got to buy me more bullets. and so this kind of investment, it does indeed save money. it does indeed save

american lives as well as those of people halfway around the world. and so, you know, we should have we should have hearts that bleed for kids who are dying unnecessarily. but we should also be alert to our own security. and that's what usaid helps, helps accomplish. >> and you did mention how donald trump said usaid was run by radical lunatics. and i want to read part of what you wrote. is it radical lunacy to try to save children's lives, to promote literacy for girls, to fight blindness? does trump believe that rescuing children from rape is a radical lunatic cause? do you wonder, nick, if it will take, i don't know, pictures of dying and dead children, sick children, victims to produce an outcry. can everyday americans do what congress seems at least many members unwilling to do, which is to put pressure on to say we need to reassess what we're

doing here for our own security, as well as for the lives of a lot of defenseless folks out there, many of them children. >> i do think, chris, that there is some realistic chance that that much or much of this can be rolled back. i think that, you know, much of the republican party is rightly really proud of pepfar. the program started by george w bush to fight aids. it saved 26 million lives so far. and that is implemented in part through usaid. and so, you know, marco rubio a few years ago was calling on the biden administration to invest more in usaid as a way to advance the competition with china, for example. so i do think that while too many republican voices are quiet right now, there is some recognition about the enormous damage this is doing, not just to kids in sudan or botswana, but to americans right

here. and i hope that that outcry will be enough to mitigate the damage, at least, and hopefully reverse much of it. >> i recommend the column to folks. as you point out, everything can be improved. usaid is not exempt from that. there are certainly things that they could do better, but you put it into such perfect context. nicholas kristof, thank you for writing that, and thank you for coming on the program. >> thank you chris. >> and still to come, the speaker's pilgrimage to the white house, all to get his caucus in lockstep with president trump's agenda. what happens if he can't? but first, breaking news federal employees no longer need to make one of the biggest financial decisions of their lives. by midnight, the president of their largest union joins us next on the delayed deadline for that buyout offer. >> there was. >> no communication. >> there is. >> no off ramp. we've been told that now. >> we can apply for unemployment and we've got to figure that out

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workforce includes nearly 2.3 million civilians, and 80% of those federal workers live and work far from the capital, spread across red and blue states. i want to bring in everett kelly, president of the union, the american federation of government employees, afge. thanks so much for being on the program. and let me start with your reaction to the judge just granting your request to temporarily block the federal buyout program. >> well, thank you for having me, chris. you know, but, you know, we really applaud the decision of this judge that really listened to the real issues and made a decision that i think is best for not just the workforce, but for america. >> well, it's interesting because caroline leavitt, the press secretary for the white house, just put out a statement. i don't know if you've seen it or heard it, but here's what she said, and i'll get your reaction on the other side. it's brief. we are grateful to the judge for extending the deadline. so more federal workers who refused to

show up to the office can take the administration up on this very generous, once in a lifetime offer. what do you make of that statement? >> i think that that's misguided. you know, this is what i say. and someone just shared this with me a few minutes ago. if you take the fork, you're destined to get the knife. okay. i don't think that is valid. i called it a sham from the beginning, and the evidence is showing that that's really what is going on here. >> well, what evidence are you talking about? and what specifically are you warning your members about? >> well, the uncertainty of the offer. okay. the offer is filled with a lot of confusion. it's so vague. there is no guaranteed funding. you know, these are the things that i'm talking about. you know, it's just left the members with so much confusion and fear because they keep getting, you know, email or memorandum after memorandum, you know, and the guidance is just not clear.

>> give us a sense of your members. i think, you know, you talk about the federal workforce and it's easy to demonize a group, right? especially when it's being paid for with your tax dollars. but give us a sense of what you want the american public to know could happen or might be lost if this continues to go into effect. >> well, if it continues to go into effect, it's a lot of americans that will be affected. number one, you know, if you get rid of the people that are servicing the veterans right now, you know who's going to process those claims or the social security administration, who's going to process those claims to make sure and make sure that the civilians, or rather, the american people, get their beneficiaries issues resolved, or who's going to make sure that the food we eat, you know, is safe or the air that we breathe is safe? who's going to

make sure that the skies that we fly in is safe? these are the services that, you know, the federal workforce provide for the american people, which is essential services that need to be accomplished. >> we spoke to two federal workers, one who was actually considering the buyout offer, the other who was terminated without warning. and i want to play what they told us. >> nobody wants to work in this type of condition where we're going to be in a psychological warfare. for how long? >> ten, 15 days. you know, this whole thing has just been turned upside down through no fault of my own. i don't know where my rent is coming from. >> our lawsuits, this lawsuit, your best offense, or what are your plans as a union to protect your workers? and. and what are you telling them about this very uncertain time that they cannot control whether they decide they might want to take the buyout or not? >> you know, i'm asking people to stay focused on the issue,

continue to do their job, do their job, which i know they will because these are very patriotic employees that believe in servicing the american people. and i'm saying continue to do your job. we're going to fight this battle, but we're going to do this together, and we're not going to stop until justice has prevailed. >> again monday, arguments will be heard. but right now, temporarily, this is blocked from taking effect. everett kelly, thank you so much for coming on the program. >> thank you for having me. >> well, frustration is growing among house republicans who so far have been unable to come up with a plan on how to advance president trump's divisive agenda as the infighting mounts on the house side. senate republicans are frankly getting tired of waiting and may move a budget bill of their own. it was against that backdrop that speaker mike johnson led members of his caucus to the white house for a meeting with the president. >> he's working. >> on a one bill strategy. >> how do you what are your goals for this? >> to move.

>> the ball forward. >> and i think. >> we will. i think we're in a good place. >> this will be an important meeting. >> joining me now, former republican congressman carlos curbelo and msnbc political analyst. boy, a complicated reconciliation bill. that's all mike johnson has to get done. how does he get it done when you've got infighting and something near zero margin for error in your caucus? >> that's right, chris. and on top of that, you have this debate. about whether there should be one versus two reconciliation bills. we know that republican senators want two bills. they want to move on an immigration package first, which they think makes a lot of sense because republicans are united on immigration. it was a strong issue for trump. he did very well. the country rejected the previous administration's immigration record, and trump ran on that and was successful. so senate republicans want to move on immigration. some very conservative house republicans want to move on immigration first. but the chairman of the ways and means committee, jason smith. speaker johnson, they know that keeping house

republicans together is tough. we have seen that over recent years. right. all of the drama in the house republican conference, the whole speaker battles. so they want to try to get just one bill because they figure if we have to go through the exercise of corralling everyone and getting them together, let's do it once instead of trying to do it twice. >> well, here's the reality. i mean, the senate is kind of breathing down mike johnson's neck, right? and the budget committee said, and this is lindsey graham, the chair, his caucus will proceed as early as next week with their own approach to a reconciliation bill. could pressure from the senate help or hurt? >> well, i can tell you, having served in the house republican conference, having served in a congress where there was a reconciliation bill in 2017 and 18, the senate typically wins these battles. senate republicans typically have gotten the best of their house counterparts because there's fewer of them. it's easier for them to get organized. also, in

this case, their majority is a little bigger in proportion than the house majority. so i really think if you're going to take a bet here, you're going to take a bet on john thune and senate republicans leading this process. >> i think the role of congress as keepers of the purse has kind of been upended right through all this, with doge coming in and elon musk coming in and saying, this is what we're going to do. and then folks in america watching what's happening to government employees as our map in the previous segment pointed out, there all across america, red and blue states. nbc reported the former head of the coast guard got kicked out of her house with three hours notice. the wall street journal reports that emil bove, who was trump's criminal defense attorney, has called at least a half a dozen fbi supervisors in several cities, some in the middle of the night, to make sure they're doing what he wants them to do. the message seems to be there are no boundaries. will the american people applaud

that? that's what they wanted disruption? or will they grow weary of it? is there that danger for republicans? >> so, chris, for sure the president has some mandate to shake up the federal government to reform the federal government. i think most americans would be open to the idea of making the federal government more efficient, modernizing it. now, this can break one of two ways, or both ways legally. and we're starting to see that with courts blocking some of these orders. news you just gave. and then also politically, if it appears that the administration is being abusive, even cruel to federal workers, if those stories start getting told and the human side of all of this becomes apparent, i remind you, a lot of house republicans are already thinking about 2026. they know if they weren't there, they they they read that 2018 was a very tough year for republicans. so that's how it could start breaking

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>> senate democrats are holding eggs was $3.65. since the moment trump returned to the oval office he has abused his power both rescinded a memo calling for a freeze on federal funding. nbc's ryan nobles is reporting from capitol hill. ryan, what are we hearing from democrats ahead of this confirmation vote? >> well. >> i think more than anything. >> chris, this. >> demonstrates how little power that democrats have to try and prevent donald trump from getting the cabinet. >> picks. >> that he wants. this is. >> basically just a procedural move to delay. >> this process. and normally democrats could. >> even take. >> these 30 hours and wait the time for the pick. >> to actually. >> be. >> voted on. >> and not actually. give these speeches, but instead. >> they want to demonstrate. >> just how demonstrably. opposed they are to russell vote as the next omb chair. they

think that he is. >> not qualified. >> for the position. and they also think that his ideas, in terms of executing the trump agenda could be dangerous and difficult. listen to a smattering as to what of some of these senators have said over these past 25 hours. >> if russell vote is confirmed to lead the office of management and. >> budget. >> it will be. working families in america that pay the price. >> vote has shown complete disregard. >> for democratic institutions. >> behind every one of these budget lines are people. people who will be hurt if the president. >> and mr. vote get their way and cut off federal grants. >> one of the reasons why. >> leader after leader came to the. >> senate floor was. to show. >> that this is not usual times, these. >> are not usual times. >> and so why are they so opposed to russell vote? well, there's a long list of reasons, perhaps one of the biggest being

that he was one of the architects and coauthors of that very controversial project 2025 agenda that came out during the campaign. he also has very, very controversial ideas about the role of the executive branch and the way that they spend the money that congress is appropriated. he believes that the president has wide discretion over how that money is spent outside of what's been appropriated by law, and something that you already see. the trump administration testing the limits of. democrats are worried that if russell vote gets into this position as the director of the office of management and budget, he will just take that into hyperdrive and that there's a long list of programs and funding streams that could be cut off even without congressional approval. at the end of the day, though, chris, they can yell about it all they want, but he is very likely, almost inevitably, going to become the next director of the office of management and budget. >> chris ryan nobles, thank you. and joining us now is the democratic senator of washington, patty murray. thank you for being here. senator. you

did take part in this. you delivered an hour long speech against the vote on the senate floor yesterday, warning he believes we live in a post-constitutional time, but knowing that you're not in the majority and knowing that it is unlikely that republicans will decide not to give donald trump what he wants. why is it important? what do you want the american people to know about why the democrats are spending this time standing on the senate floor and talking about this? >> chris, it is so important that american people across this country and in every community understand that our democracy is at stake with someone like russell vote, who doesn't believe that we should follow the constitution or the laws or the democratic procedures we have always followed in order to make sure that we are passing funding for people in my state and across the country on the priorities that we debate and vote on in congress. he has

specifically said that he will violate the law. he doesn't believe in it. he doesn't believe that this democracy should work that way. he just simply believes that whoever is president can make the decisions about where your tax dollars go. well, you know what? every american gets to vote for their member of congress, for their senator because they get to listen and say, is this person going to fight for me and my state for the issues that we care about, go to congress and work with others to help make sure our state works, that we are prosperous, that what we need is on the table and not dismissed by whoever's republican who's ever president. and why is that important? we don't know who the future president is. i do not understand why republicans aren't thinking ahead, that maybe they're pretty happy with trump making decisions for who gets the funding streams for the next few years, but they are not going to have a republican president forever. and do they want to cede this power, this own power, that they have to be

a voice for their constituents to any president in the future? that is what's at stake. and the very real consequences are so clear to us now, because we have an unelected billionaire who is going into every agency and is messing with the records, deciding that he's going to stop funding here or stop funding there, not merely by a stroke of a pen, but by shutting down websites or portals so people can't get access to their information. this is dangerous. it is outrageous. and we are standing on the floor to make clear what is at stake for our country, and we're fighting back. >> you said on monday we're pulling the fire alarm. and so it's ringing because as we see tammy duckworth again and we've been listening for the last 25 hours, it is being rung. but but i guess my question, senator, is who's listening? what's the strategy to fight back and will it ultimately land with congress

as programs are cut? will it end up mostly in the courts? what's the strategy? >> well, what i said is we're pulling the fire alarm. we're letting people know what is going on. republicans hold the majority in congress. they have the votes, but they have a choice. do they help turn on the fire hose and stop this, or do they stand in the fire and go down with it? they have a choice, and that choice is clear to all of us. they will have to hold the responsibility for the damage that occurs from here. and we want people to understand that. but secondly, we are fighting this in the courts because what this president and people like vogt are doing is violating the law. we are going through our court system as well to make sure that we stop these illegal actions. and i want to say to everyone out there, we are being inundated by stories about websites that you've seen taken down. that means that your community preschool can't get

access to funds. or to a forester who just told me this morning he can't get access to the portal that allows them to get to get the funds for firefighting equipment for our firefighters who are hosting or who are trying to fight forest fires. we need your stories. you know why? because they're not letting us in either. so your voice, your story, you're talking to all of us and telling us what's going on, on the ground allows us to speak out. speak up, makes republicans hear us, too, but critically helps us make the case in the courts about why this is lawless. >> senator patty murray, thank you for taking time out of your busy day to speak with us. we appreciate it. thank you. and coming up, a multi-million dollar theft and sports gambling scandal. could mlb superstar shohei ohtani's former interpreter, go to prison today? you're watching chris jansing you're watching chris jansing reports on i was stuck. unresolved depression symptoms were in my way. i needed more from my antidepressant.

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