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massive ripple effect from president trump and elon musk's bid to gut the federal workforce. coming into sharper focus now. first responders, local health clinics and american farmers among those taking hits that will likely total in the billions of dollars. plus going down. the markets fall on the heels of the january jobs report, as job growth comes in lighter than expected. and that's even before factoring in donald trump's new federal work purge. or his trade war. and from canines to x rays, ai to armed guards, super bowl security as always, tight. but this year it's on a whole new level. how the city of new orleans is taking the lessons learned from that new year's attack and putting them to work at this weekend's big game. a lot to get to on this friday, but we begin with the real world impact of the trump musk slash and burn approach to the federal government. it is mounting quickly. victims of a shock and awe campaign piling up. and the

headlines tell a story that is both broad and deep across the u.s. health clinics and nonprofit organizations, largely serving rural and low income patients, aren't able to access desperately needed funds. even though a judge put a hold on the funding ban. the federal hiring freeze has stopped the onboarding of thousands of seasonal federal firefighters, including those who work for agencies called on to help battle those devastating fires in los angeles. and while u.s. aid helps people abroad, the washington post reports that american workers are in limbo and billions of dollars that the agency spends on american businesses and organizations could go away. but secretary of state marco rubio says the confusion isn't the administration's fault. he blames the workers themselves. >> our preference would have been to do this in a more orderly fashion from the top down, but we had no cooperation and in fact, insubordination. and so it required us to work from the bottom up.

>> the new york times reports those cuts in u.s. aid have also stopped medical research. so people around the world with experimental drugs and medical products in their bodies are cut off from the researchers who are monitoring them. these kinds of details trickling out from the small, unsupervised cost cutting group d.o.j. that's operating largely in secrecy and without any formal oversight. its staff largely unknown. with this exception, the wall street journal reports a 25 year old d.o.j. worker is gone after reporters uncovered racist social media posts. turns out that dodge operative was also at the center of a legal battle over access to sensitive taxpayer information and systems that the treasury department uses to process trillions of dollars in payments annually. but today, the broad sweep of trump and musk's efforts to reshape the federal government are continuing. now there's a new memo directing government agency heads to turn over

information about employees who had poor performance reviews in the last three years. nbc's kelly o'donnell is covering the white house. also with me, sahil kapoor on capitol hill. sam stein is managing editor at the bulwark and an msnbc contributor. so, kelly, let's start out there. this memo about underperforming federal employees came out after a judge blocked the government's buyout offer. what more can you tell us, and how does this fit into the larger frame of trying to gut the overall workforce? >> well. >> there's clearly a message. >> from the trump. >> administration of deep frustration. >> and outright. >> criticism of federal workers. >> even though federal workers, of course. uphold so many. >> of the departments and agencies and. >> services that are provided. >> to the. >> american people all. across the country, not just here. >> in washington. >> and this administration is trying to reduce. >> the. >> size of the federal. >> workforce, saying it's about. >> the budget. >> but also. looking to align workers with president trump's. >> view of. >> how government should

operate. and political points. >> of. >> view and so forth. he is relying on elon musk to a. >> great degree. >> in this special, special government role. >> that he has. and today, he was. >> asked about musk's work. >> and the. >> sort of approach he's taking to dismantle parts of our government. and as you might be expecting, president trump defended his choice to deploy elon. >> musk in these ways. >> elon is doing a great job. he's finding tremendous fraud and corruption and waste. you see it with the usaid, but you're going to see it even more so with other agencies and other parts of government. he's got a staff that's fantastic. he's wanted to be able to do this for a long time, and everybody else knew it was existent. but i think never so much. when you look at usaid. that's a that's a fraud. the whole thing is a fraud. >> of course, in the first trump

term, a first lady, melania trump and senior adviser ivanka trump at that time, both were involved in programs supporting usaid. and usaid, of course, serves around the world. a very small percentage of the overall budget, and is often considered a necessary part of not only humanitarian aid, but the cascading effects of that that redound to the american people in terms of national security. so the approach this administration is taking is certainly very blunt. and the experts that. elon musk says are in the workforce helping him do this and getting into the systems may not have any experience really in understanding how government works. there's not a great deal of transparency about who's on his team and how they are operating. the president wants him to do this work and he is at it. while many federal workers in lots of different departments and agencies, a broad workforce have real questions about what their own futures will look

like. >> so, sam, let's talk a little more about this worldwide impact. nbc news found that usaid is being cut from roughly 10,000 workers globally to 611. only a dozen people are going to be assigned to cover all of africa. eight people will cover asia, ten will cover all of europe. america first is not something that donald trump has ever shied away from. but does this go beyond in terms of a larger narrative? essentially, donald trump drastically removing the u.s. from many parts of the global playing field? >> yeah. i mean, it's sort. >> of. >> a one. >> dimensional america first approach, right? usaid does a number of important services and works across the globe to bolster american soft power. and so you create. >> goodwill. >> you create alliances, you alleviate. >> human suffering. and that. >> rebounds on america in a good way. absent that, those countries in. africa and south america and europe even will

have to turn elsewhere for help. and they'll turn to china and russia and people and powers that we are opposed to. i will say that from a programmatic level, this is devastating. the people who i've talked to in foreign aid at usaid, in the global health community are warning of severe, severe consequences. already people are imperiled and probably have died from this. but if you just take pepfar, it's a good example. so pepfar is the program to alleviate hiv worldwide, but primarily in africa. it was started by president george w bush. it has cured or prevented 26 million infections of hiv. that program has a waiver, according to marco rubio. and so in theory, it should be able to do its work. but pepfar depends heavily on usaid. pepfar is a fund, but you have to administer the programs, and usaid is a supplier for pepfar and also helps with the administration of that program. i talked to one pediatrician out in east africa

who is involved in pepfar. their staff is going to be reduced by half because of this usaid cut. so when we're talking about programs that even have made it through the waiver, those will be impacted by this usaid cut. and that's just one sliver of our global humanitarian relief efforts. >> and by the way, it's not just those folks who work abroad. and it's not just civil service workers in washington who are impacted. also, we're learning first responders are going to take a hit. nbc's jacob soboroff, tell us about that. >> yeah, that's right. >> the trump administration's hiring. freeze has effectively stopped the hiring of federal firefighters. all throughout the federal firefighter system. >> and you might say. >> didn't know there was a federal firefighter system. >> well, there's. >> about 15,000. >> to. >> 20,000 federal firefighters. >> depending on the season. >> many of them are. >> seasonal, either. career or temporary seasonal. >> workers. >> which means that every year that there is a significant onboarding process for these.

>> federal firefighters. >> and here in los angeles, in. >> southern california. >> because of this massive mutual aid response. >> to fight. >> the devastating. >> wildfires that we had. >> here. >> those federal firefighters were critical to beat back and in. >> fact, save some neighborhoods, including in the eaton fire. >> as part of. >> that mutual aid effort. but in these agencies. >> the bureau of. >> land management, the u.s. forest. >> service, the national park service, the onboarding process is frozen, and because of the background checks, they. >> have to go through the length of. >> time that. >> these. >> background checks take to get these firefighters on board. what we have. >> learned is that. >> it effectively could end up with a shortage of firefighters come next fire season. >> we talked to a. >> person who. >> works in. >> hiring at the bureau of land management, who says that the directive was given to hold all offers related to fire position, the level of stupidity and negligence here, this person told us, is enraging. there's a lot of concern. within the career civil service. within the ranks. >> of these federal wildland firefighters. >> that engage not just in these mutual aid. >> efforts, but also. >> obviously work on these massive. federal lands

throughout the american west. >> in particular, about the consequences of holding back the hiring. >> of these firefighters. right now. >> the trump. >> administration, the office of personnel management. has not said. that the freeze isn't affecting these firefighters. but what they have said is there's a public safety exemption in that executive. >> order, despite the fact that there's that public. >> safety exemption. we know. >> that the. >> hiring of these firefighters is in many cases on hold at this hour. it's something that's. got grave concern here in places like los angeles, where we just saw one of the most devastating fires in. american history. back to you. >> yeah, without a doubt, jacob. thanks for that. so, sam, firefighters. and then we're also learning that people in poor and rural areas are losing access to health care. nbc news is reporting that a nonprofit mental health program for teen girls in west virginia had to turn to private donors to help cover expenses. a network of health centers in rural mississippi is facing a deficit of half $1 million. they may have to scale back services, and worth noting these are states

trump won, run by republican governors, run by republican lawmakers. and so it does raise the question is there a red line for them when this starts hitting their constituents this way? >> yes there is. we haven't reached it yet. but i talked, for instance, to the national head start association. that's basically pre-k for people who need it financially. and they said there's something close to like 280 instances where people chapters were having trouble getting their funding. you combine that with community health centers. you combine that potentially with food assistance, and eventually this becomes a real, tangible political problem, not just one that democratic lawmakers care about, but republican lawmakers. we know this because early on, if you remember that omb memo that was sent out saying, we're going to put a pause on all these federal grants, there was real mass confusion. and then suddenly it wasn't clear that the medicaid portals, the money to for states to access the

medicaid money were working. and republican lawmakers started to freak out about that. and quickly, that omb memo was rescinded amidst the confusion. now the trump people say, oh, this is all technical problems. not really what we're doing. these groups are having trouble filing their paperwork properly, but my suspicion is that eventually when you get this much chaos, this much confusion, this much anxiety among people who are dependent on various government entities, it will cause an effect. and lawmakers who are closest to the ground will feel it first. >> so, sawhill, what are we hearing from republicans on the hill? any concerns? >> yeah. >> there are concerns, chris. but among republicans, they're mostly getting expressed in hushed tones. there are questions about elon musk's exact role here, the parameters of his job. and some lawmakers worry about how they can carry out their own oversight roles about all this funding that it, you know, affects their constituents with so little transparency around what elon is doing. one senator, susan collins of maine, is a little bit more public about this than

her colleagues. she says there are legitimate concerns about elon and his team getting access to personal information of americans. she says that's a privacy issue, that it could lead to court challenges. and there are processes in place around reorganizing agencies that don't appear to be getting followed here. but she's the exception. for the most part. republicans are doing what they usually do in these situations. standing by president trump and dismissing the criticisms. take a look. >> we see this as an active, engaged, committed executive branch authority doing what the executive branch should do. >> some of. >> my colleagues are. >> screaming like they're. >> part of a prison riot. >> he's basically doing. >> an audit. >> so i hope that. >> he'll soon. >> be issuing a thorough report to. >> congress and the public. this is a reform movement. and for all the. >> outrage. >> bingo. >> that my democrat. >> colleagues and many in. >> the. >> legacy media are playing, they ought to pace themselves because it's going to be a long four years. >> all of which is to say, as

long as trump retains the influence he has with republican voters and he's fine with elon, we should expect most republican lawmakers to be on that page. now, democrats are taking a very, very different approach. naturally, they have put elon musk at the center of their political message against the new trump administration, the resistance 2.0. they argue that trump is empowering unelected billionaires to go after programs that benefit the middle class, all while he's pursuing a major tax cut that would disproportionately benefit upper earners like elon musk. just moments ago, congresswoman melanie stansbury and congressman jamie raskin introduced a bill called the. nobody elected elon musk act. the bill would make sure that taxpayers won't be on the hook for damages in these litany of court challenges that are brought as a result of elon musk's actions, and those members who are taking those steps, they don't name elon quite in the text outside the name of it, but it's very obvious that they're talking about him, that he would be on the hook for those damages. chris. >> all right, so, sam, the project 2025 architect who authored a lot of what we're seeing. right, russell vote just

got confirmed, as you know, as the head of omb. so today is his first full day on the job. here's what politico said about him. vote has said he wants to inflict trauma on the federal workforce, dismantle an elitist regime he believes has long stifled conservatives, and shake the very foundations of american government he believes has been captured by an administrative state. so could this be short of, i don't know, an epiphany by donald trump or a fight that includes republicans? could this be just the beginning? >> oh, yeah, absolutely. and i will just say i spent the past two weeks talking to dozens of federal workers, and if they were asking for trauma, if that's the idea, if that's the goal, they they're clearly being successful in pursuit of it. now, i will say the people who i talked to more or less feel like they need to, you know, bear down and deal with it because they they're not responding to these deferred resignation requests by signing up. they're

offended by it, but they're also sort of traumatized by it. people are not talking on their group chats anymore. they're talking by signal to try to make sure that people aren't watching them. there's anxiety that you're being watched by your superiors now with suspicion. they're all getting ready to either get pushed out or put on leave. the return to work orders, which they understand in theory, don't really make sense in practice because in some cases they're being told to go back to offices. those offices were sold off during covid. there's no way there's not enough space for them to go. so there's a cascading number of moves that the trump administration has made with regards to the federal workforce that is designed probably deliberately, to make them quit. and i think that's the goal is they want to inflict a trauma so that they can fundamentally reduce the size of government. >> sam stein, sahil kapoor, thank you so much. and by the way, we're standing by for president trump to hold a joint press conference with the japanese prime minister

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the aftermath of a deadly tornado that killed a mother and daughter in the same house last night, and injured at least three others. the category two tornado, with winds of up to 135mph, struck morgan county. that's about 50 miles northwest of knoxville. nbc's kathy park is on the ground in deer lodge, tennessee. what more can you tell us? chris? >> good afternoon. >> so officials are. >> saying that. >> this likely. tornado came through the area around. >> 830 last night. >> and we. >> just. >> spoke with. >> a. >> resident who lives. >> on this property. >> amos richard williams. and he told us that he was ready to go to bed around that time. he was about to head into the bedroom when the twister literally pulled his home off its foundation. he was still inside and he found himself trying to come out of the rubble, peeling some of the debris off of him. he has several gashes on his

face. it is now stitched up, but moments after he realized what happened, he yelled out for his wife. she also sustained injuries. she is recovering at this hour. meanwhile, tragically, he also confirmed that his ex-wife and his 22 year old daughter. they are among the fatalities. officials also saying that there were other injuries as well. but chris, when you look around, it's kind of hard to wrap your mind around what was actually on this property because you have debris scattered just about everywhere. so richard was explaining to me that his ex-wife's home was over my shoulder to the left, completely gone behind me. this was her barn barely standing, and then over to my right was richard's home. and now it is. or what's left of it. pieces of the home are scattered throughout the woods there. chris, if there is any sort of bright spot in all of this, we have seen neighbors, first responders. you see a lot of

activity behind me. these are strangers coming in, lending a helping hand. this community, they are just kind of pulling together because obviously we are hearing just these horrific tragedies, these heartbreaking stories of neighbors dealing with so much in just a matter of minutes. and what's what's incredible is that during the day, it was a beautiful day. and then by nightfall was when things really took a dramatic turn. and so many people, they were ready to go to bed. they were wrapping up dinner. and then this happened. chris. >> kathy park, thank you for that report. well, the first jobs report since donald trump took office is out now. and it shows the u.s. economy added 143,000 jobs in january. that's fewer than expected, while the unemployment rate edged down to 4%. i want to bring in cnbc's steve liesman here in studio with me at the big board, nbc's brian chung. okay, brian, i know you've been digging into the

numbers. what do they tell us? >> yeah, well, with the numbers, it's always good to add some context here. so let's start off with that 143,000 figure that you just mentioned. yes, that is how many jobs were added in the month of january. that's a bit of a slower pace than what we had seen in terms of monthly job gains in november and december, but certainly better than some of the summer months that we had gotten in the months in the year prior. now, again, as you mentioned, though, this was a bit of a disappointment, disappointment from the wall street standpoint because some economists were projecting something a little bit closer to 169,000 jobs for the month. but i want to point out that one silver lining we did get in this report is that the unemployment rate in this country did decline. it just ticked down slightly to 4% as of the month of january. again, it's been trending up since the beginning of january 2023, but a marked improvement from some of the higher unemployment rates we had seen in the post pandemic period. when it comes to the job gains by industry, i want to point out that healthcare, retail, these are jobs at the mall did drive a lot of the job gains in this month, over 40,030 thousand, respectively. also interesting to see social assistance jobs. these could be

jobs at nonprofits, up by about 20,000. but leisure and hospitality these are bars and restaurants. this industry driving a lot of the post-pandemic recovery. actually contracting in this month, losing about 3000 jobs. not necessarily that much, but still worth monitoring. i want to point out the black unemployment rate did rise as well. a thread we'll have to watch in the months to come. >> okay, thanks so much for that. now, steve. this report also featured significant revisions of 2024 numbers. tell us about that. >> so what the census did the census provides the bureau of labor statistics with the population data. it went back and looked at its methodology for counting the undocumented and documented immigrants that have come into the country over the past several years and into january of this year, because it didn't go back and revise. it added some 2 million plus new, really people in this country, of which a large percent were working. so what it's done really is focus the data now on

on how many immigrants have come into the country and the effects on population growth, as well as on things like total population and the spending that's out there. and really begun a discussion, chris, about, well, what does it mean if we now engage in mass deportation? >> all right. you're also reporting about movement in the markets over president trump's tariff threats. tell us the latest on that, steve. >> yeah, i mean, i think we were doing fine after the jobs report. wall street seemed to like it. but then at 10:00, we had a number come out from the university of michigan saying that americans inflation expectations had skyrocketed. and essentially a lot of that comes down to what people's concern about tariffs. and then president trump talked about these reciprocal tariffs at 1050. and the market took another leg down. so we've gone from positive to negative in two different steps here, in part because of concern over tariffs. the wall street doesn't like

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millions are watching on tv, heavily armed national guardsmen will be patrolling on foot. helicopters will be circling above and police boats will be out on the water. the security preparations come just over a month after the new year's day terrorist attack on bourbon street that killed 14 people. and it's even more heightened now that president trump plans to attend the game. the first sitting u.s. president to go. nbc's priscilla thompson is on the ground for us in new orleans. and priscilla, we know that there are nearly 3000 police spread out all across the city. and i wonder what's it like there ahead of the game? >> well, chris, you certainly feel that police presence on the ground here. you've got nearly 3000, many of them in uniform, but some of them also not in uniform. and that is across federal, local and state agencies. and so they are out patrolling a lot of these areas where a lot of people are going to be concentrated. we're here at the convention center that has concrete barriers that have gone up all around it. we also spent some time down on bourbon

and in the french quarter, where we saw metal barricades and also dump trucks and big rvs. and so lots of things to prevent another tragedy like what occurred there in january. we also know that from 5 p.m. to 5 a.m, a lot of the roads are going to be closed to traffic. a lot of road closures, especially in that area and around the superdome where there's pedestrian traffic and a lot of folks are going to be. i just spoke to some students here, some college students here who were hanging out, and they say that they have seen this increased presence over the past several weeks, and it makes them feel incredibly safe as they're coming out and enjoying the events. and i know my colleague jesse kirsch has also been out talking to folks, and i want to play some of those conversations. >> the way that things are set up right now, you. >> feel. >> very comfortable, very safe. >> definitely lots of security. >> i think everyone. >> who comes. >> definitely will feel secure. >> how are you feeling now? >> oh, safe. >> safe. >> i feel. >> like this is. >> the safest. >> place in. >> america. >> right now. and so with folks feeling safe, that means they

can get out and enjoy the game. and there are going to be some changes at the game, particularly in the end zone where that end racism slogan that we've seen over the past several years is going to be removed. the nfl announced that it would be replaced with the slogan choose love. that announcement did come on the same day that it was announced that president trump would be attending the game, but the nfl says that it's really about folks coming together after this tragedy and choosing love. and i will say there is one other change that is going to be happening at the super bowl, and that is the halftime performance. with kendrick lamar set to be the first solo rap artist ever to headline the big game, chris. >> priscilla thompson, who's got the greatest gig in reporting for nbc right now. thanks so much. appreciate it. let me bring in pablo torre, host of pablo torre finds out and an msnbc contributor. good to have you on the show. you know, as much as people want to get away from politics, they apparently can't because they're, you know, folks talking about the ditching of the end racism message in the

end zone, commissioner roger goodell said on monday he doesn't think the league's policies to promote diversity will conflict with trump's views on the issue. and i wonder if there is a tightrope for the nfl and goodell to walk, or is this really just business as usual? >> i mean, the tightrope is familiar to us. >> chris, thanks for having me. >> by the. >> way. >> the issue with the whole end. >> racism thing. >> is that it's. >> always been platitudinous. >> it's always been. >> a cliche, right? i mean, the nfl has demonstrated in a couple of real ways that they are concerned about the perception of what it's like to have a league that is a super majority black players run by people who are not and attendant with that have been various lawsuits throughout the year, have been various controversies. colin kaepernick famously, infamously, of course, being told to get off the field by donald trump himself before. so this is a long, long, long standing issue. the removal of it, though, and the timing of it does feel, at the very least, convenient. all

of this has felt to me from the start about political convenience, the theater of saying that you are really concerned about something as if putting end racism in the end zone is going to solve that problem. of course, that's always been performative, but the real like bottom line here simply is that this is the most important cultural real estate in american life, chris, for better and for worse. and so what the super bowl is and looks like and what they are saying has, of course, resonance in a way that's deeper because it's the biggest megaphone we have in this country. >> yeah. let's say i think the i think i read in the ap that there are 11 franchises who have never had a black coach, so that's another controversy who's, you know, really running these teams. but this is the single most valuable sports franchise in the world, the nfl. forbes says that the dallas cowboys, who didn't have a great record this year, are the single most valuable sports franchise in the world. i think they're worth around $11 billion. so, i

mean, is there anybody who's about to rock this money making machine? >> no. look, the nfl, when we talk about the fragmentation of everything, i want to just put those scandals and those crises into modern context because a decade ago, no less than mark cuban, owner, formerly the owner of the dallas mavericks, was saying that in ten years, the nfl would face a reckoning that they were getting too greedy. that, to quote cuban himself, pigs get slaughtered, that the nfl was getting hog. there would be a reckoning because they were trying to gobble up all of the real estate throughout the calendar, the calendar of sports, and thus american life. and the reason the nfl has persisted and thrived, profited more than ever disproved that prediction as dramatically as you can is because while everything around the nfl has been fragmented and none of us watched the same things, agree on the music that we like, certainly the politics. but you go down the line, we don't watch the same tv shows anymore, but we do largely watch the nfl. and

so the siloing of everything in this era has led the nfl. the lone monoculture left to be even bigger than they would be at any other time. and so when you talk about who's going to stop watching the games because crises a, b, c, and d, whether it's racial controversy, whether it's head trauma, whether it's domestic violence, whether it's all the serious things, the reality is that we're watching the product. the game itself is fantastic. the super bowl is the most watched thing every year. 72 of the top 100 tv shows this past year were nfl games. and so you're right. what's the reckoning? who's going to vote with their feet? so far we're all walking towards this thing because it is the number one holiday that we have in our culture. >> yeah, i've tried to walk away many times, but i can't bring myself to do it once a browns fan, always somebody to be beaten up, right? >> oh, that's that's particular sadness chris. >> that is particular sadness. so can we talk about something happy maybe. i love the

predictions. i love the predictions. and i'm not going to ask you about whether there's going to be an engagement on the field. i am going to ask you whether or not the kansas city chiefs can threepeat. what are the chances? >> yeah. >> yeah, i have the chiefs winning this. and you're right. look, i love the sport right. once you disclose everything and you say what do you have left. you have the most compelling sports product with all of its sort of frustrations and compromises. but the chiefs are uncompromisingly dominant. they are going to become, in my view, the first team in nfl history to win three super bowls in a row. and the eagles, who are showing on screen right now, they are the hardest opponent that patrick mahomes, the chiefs star quarterback, has ever faced. i think that's also fair to say. but when it comes to what the chiefs are doing, which is to say winning so often that they become villains, yeah, you're going to see that again. so chiefs 29, eagles 27 is, i think really the take that you want from me. and i will say that

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>> gang that's been a threat. >> in the united. >> states for the past year or so. >> but we aren't getting exactly how they're. >> picking the people who they arrest to. >> take. >> down there. >> have any of these people already been in detention before? are they new arrests? and furthermore, what will their rights be? we just saw from the aclu today. they sent a letter. >> saying that they. >> want more information on these people, exactly what they've been convicted of. will they have. >> the. >> right to. >> an attorney? >> could they. >> file a habeas petition, just. >> as. >> we've. >> seen for people accused. >> of terrorism that are being held in guantanamo. >> bay. >> because enlarge chris, even though guantanamo bay had. >> been used. >> in. >> the. >> past to hold migrants temporarily, that was. >> for people. >> interdicted at sea. mainly coming from haiti. >> this is a. >> whole new way of. >> using guantanamo. >> bay for migrants. >> holding them right in the same. >> kind of level of security. >> and the same facilities. >> as people who are alleged terrorists. and so what the aclu wants to do is they want. >> to get more information. >> and that could be. >> the. precursor to a lawsuit. but in the meantime, because ice

is so. stretched for space in the united states. we understand these. >> flights and. >> these people moving to guantanamo are going to continue. julia ainsley, thank you. let's go to capitol hill now, where israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu met with house speaker mike johnson after describing president trump's plan for a u.s. takeover of gaza as a remarkable idea that should be pursued. nbc's ryan nobles is reporting from capitol hill. what do we know about this meeting today? >> well, we know for sure. >> chris. that there's no greater. support that benjamin netanyahu. >> may have in the united states than within the. republican house. >> caucus and in speaker mike johnson in particular. he has long. >> been a champion. >> of netanyahu, even. as the war raged. on in this conflict with hamas. after the events of october 7th, even when there was a ton of criticism about the humanitarian issues in gaza, mike johnson was steadfastly behind benjamin netanyahu, even inviting him to come speak to a joint session of congress at a time when there was a lot of controversy surrounding netanyahu. and today, both men

really emphasized that special relationship between the house republican caucus and netanyahu. take a listen. >> today, we discussed. >> the special partnership. >> that we. >> have between these two. >> countries. >> and i. >> thank prime minister netanyahu. >> for his unrelenting. >> commitment to making the. >> region and the world a. >> safer place. >> amid really extraordinary challenges. >> we agreed on many things, but i think it sets the tone for this great strengthening of the american-israeli alliance. it's not only an alliance between governments, it's an alliance between peoples. >> and they didn't really get into too many specifics around this plan that president trump has floated about the united states taking over and redeveloping the gaza strip, whether or not there would be american troops involved in that. any time you ask either of these leaders about that idea, they kind of embrace the concept, but then push it off and say that there's a lot that needs to be worked out before we

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is. just a more. >> advanced system for. >> the air traffic control to know exactly where that helicopter was. it's a much more accurate tracking system. now. >> at the. >> at this point, ntsb has not confirmed this, but here is what senator. >> ted cruz, ted. >> cruz, had to say about. >> this development. >> in this instance, this was a training mission, so there was no compelling national security reason for ads-b to be turned off. >> so. >> chris. one thing. >> to. keep in. mind here again, ntsb has not. >> confirmed that that is actually accurate. but but the military, when they train, they like to train in real world conditions. okay. so one reason people have said why are they flying so close to the to the airport. well, they need to be ready. that should they be called on for a mission, you know, in some sort of a national emergency, they need to know where they can fly. they need to know those corridors inside and out so that they will be safe in a real world, world condition. another thing that has come up that we are learning about is

that the helicopter the pilots did, in fact, have their night vision goggles on at the time. >> this is another thing. >> another piece of the. puzzle that is also drawing some criticism right now is why would they have had their night vision goggles on at 9:00 at night? it was in the middle of the night. it was a training mission. and again, military officials would tell you they train in real world conditions so that if in fact, there is an emergency and they need to carry out these missions in real life, they will be ready. but again, pieces of this puzzle are coming together, but. we still do not have the full picture yet. >> chris courtney kuby, thank you. president trump gave intelligence agencies until today to deliver a plan for releasing the remaining sealed files in jfk's assassination. for decades, of course, those files have fueled conspiracies, everything from cia involvement to lee harvey oswald taking orders from a foreign government. but investigative journalists say they don't expect a smoking gun here, because the vast majority of the remaining files are tax files and blaming over redactions from

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